No 2020 College Football :-(

[steve dave]

This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks


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[Pete]

This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks


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Shawnee Mission school district just switched too remote.  They will re-evaluate it every week or so tho, as the county health department gives their red/yellow/green rating.

[steve dave]

Imagine the cheating on exams for athletes in the Covid era. LHC Bill Snyder and Tom Osborne would have been playing in the NC every season until they died.


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[wetwillie]

I’m still holding on

[Katpappy]

I am willing to bet we don't have fans after the first game.

[chum1]

Unless we win a lot, I'll be distancing myself from the games on my TV.

[Katpappy]

I didn't brother to buy season because I plan on watching the games on TV.
 

[MakeItRain]

This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks


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Flood Aggie have tested their entire student body and staff and they tested at a very respectful 2.2%, way lower than the surrounding communities. The problem is now that they are only going to test symptomatic students and staff. These people aren't in a bubble and the surrounding counties are testing at higher positive percentages.

[Pete]

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2020/08/how-a-cardiologist-may-have-saved-the-college-football-season.html

The Minnesota-based cardiologist leads the Windland Smith Rice Sudden Death Genomics Lab which studies, among other things, sudden death in young athletes. He explained to the Big 12?s leaders that a new myocarditis study in the Journal of American Medical Association that sparked panic across college sports didn’t have the “bandwidth” to be transferable in a useful way. The study, conducted in Germany and composed of middle-aged adults, found that 78 percent of the 100 participants had some cardiac abnormality. Ackerman said it’d be a “scientific foul” to infer that those findings are relevant for 18 to 24-year old athletes.

"You cannot make that leap," Ackerman exclaimed.

Ackerman pushed for the Big 12 to consider additional heart-related protocols to mitigate any possible risks, with the conference adopting plans to test athletes who had the coronavirus with an EKG, cardiac MRI, echocardiogram and troponin blood test. He stressed that any player who contracts COVID-19 needs to have a “squeaky clean cardiac evaluation” before getting the go-ahead to return to play. He cautioned them to consider possible mental health ramifications of canceling a season, referencing past experiences with athletes who suffered after being medically disqualified for heart issues.

Citing his own experience in dealing with non-zero risk situations with patients every day, he provided a path forward for college conferences hoping to play college football this fall.

[Pete]

Obviously, it does not address the other open argument about one's role in further spreading the disease, which seems to be the most significant difference of opinions between any "sides" in this.

[Pete]

If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

[ben ji]

If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

This is a good comment, thank you pete.

[POWL]

If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

This is a good comment, thank you pete.

I am sorry to report that young people can't stay away from each other.

[michigancat]

If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.

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If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.

Yes.  I think player health was pitched by people who knew sports had to be canceled in order to try to get support from weirdos who hate masks, distancing, etc.  That track ended up making some forget the exponentially more important reasons to not play a sport that has caravans of people smashing into each other, mingling with those in the smash city and then going to another city to do it again.

So now you have a bunch of myocarditis debates that are irrelevant.

[Pete]

If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.

Yes.  I think player health was pitched by people who knew sports had to be canceled in order to try to get support from weirdos who hate masks, distancing, etc.  That track ended up making some forget the exponentially more important reasons to not play a sport that has caravans of people smashing into each other, mingling with those in the smash city and then going to another city to do it again.

So now you have a bunch of myocarditis debates that are irrelevant.

Yep

[DaBigTrain]

https://twitter.com/espncfb/status/1296496728250765318

[SkinnyBenny]

I love fooboo but this is absurd. Just pull the plug.

[catastrophe]

I cannot in good conscience advocate for player safety based on potential heart inflammation when I was ok knowing they were all risking serious long term brain injuries.

[420seriouscat69]

https://twitter.com/reddirtsport/status/1296468618776125441?s=21


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[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/espncfb/status/1296496728250765318

That's two in three weeks? Clay Travis hive won't care.

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/reddirtsport/status/1296468618776125441?s=21


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That someone who makes me uncomfortable blocked me for this

https://twitter.com/mj_from_kansas/status/952232216020639745

[sonofdaxjones]

OMG

[Fedor]

Wichita GWAL says they are out for this fall.

[Trim]

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1296800496217477120