wutFrom your perspective this is actually good news. The 10 year rolling 100 loss streak is looking out of reach now.
wutFrom your perspective this is actually good news. The 10 year rolling 100 loss streak is looking out of reach now.
wutFrom your perspective this is actually good news. The 10 year rolling 100 loss streak is looking out of reach now.
NCAA AD’s said today and flexed back at Pence that nobody will field a team (football) unless students are back on campus during that time. Unless SD heard something different, I call BS, as much as every Universities revenue is based off college football. We’re talking the Athletic Department, professors, donors, etc. All gone or decreased salaries, etc. If this happens. All the colleges said today is students need to be present on campus for games to happen and I call BS, because pro sports will be back soon, and they’ll find a way to make it happen and play in empty stadiums while trying to find a way to quarantine their student athletes to make it happen.
I was told by a University of Central Missouri employee that they are preparing for fall enrollment increase due to all the potential students wanting to get out of their parents' basement. They are in "fix it/build it" mode right now until then.
But yea I'm hearing all local Universities are counting on keeping campus closed throughout the Summer. Many Universities are charging similar fees for classes as if they were in person as well.
I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:
The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach relays that many of the college athletic directors and commissioners whom she has spoken with are looking toward the end of May to make a decision on the 2020 CFB season.
A May decision makes sense given that schools will past the spring semester at that point and looking to lock in plans -- if possible -- for the fall semester. Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick noted that in order for the college football season to be played as scheduled, it would require (for obvious reasons) all campuses to be open, rather than just select ones. Which could be an issue given that the coronavirus is not impacting every state in the country in a static, blanket fashion. There are some states which smartly issued stay-at-home orders and the like very early, but others (such as football hotbed states like Florida, South Carolina and Georgia) which dragged their heels. The spread of the virus is not uniform, which makes a uniform decision on college football a complicated one. Hopefully we'll have more information in another month or so.
I think this is what the drawing line is now for these universities. Thought I brought it up earlier? Are they willing to pay bloated professor salaries for online teaching or just cut their losses in whole? Like I said, good time to promote “pay for play” if the universities mainly exist off cfb/cbb revenue.I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:
This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.
I think this is what the drawing line is now for these universities. Thought I brought it up earlier? Are they willing to pay bloated professor salaries for online teaching or just cut their losses in whole? Like I said, good time to promote “pay for play” if the universities mainly exist off cfb/cbb revenue.I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:
This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.
In the event that the season cannot be played as scheduled, various ticket and donation resolutions will be offered.
I'm more concerned with figuring out what the plan is for my incoming freshman son. Will fall classes be online, delayed, etc? I have a feeling trying to coordinate housing is going to be a gigantic cluster. Plan on spending some time this weekend going through K-State email correspondence to try and get a handle on things.I can’t speak for KSU but I will tell you that other universities are already planning for a potential online only fall semester. It’s wait and see but if students do come to campus it will be with significant restrictions around a lot of things. Most have made that call already for summer. Also expecting significant enrollment decreases overall. A lot of that driven by foreign enrollment but also some domestic decrease.
I'm more concerned with figuring out what the plan is for my incoming freshman son. Will fall classes be online, delayed, etc? I have a feeling trying to coordinate housing is going to be a gigantic cluster. Plan on spending some time this weekend going through K-State email correspondence to try and get a handle on things.I can’t speak for KSU but I will tell you that other universities are already planning for a potential online only fall semester. It’s wait and see but if students do come to campus it will be with significant restrictions around a lot of things. Most have made that call already for summer. Also expecting significant enrollment decreases overall. A lot of that driven by foreign enrollment but also some domestic decrease.
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I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:
This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.
A gap year where you just sit at home and do nothing sounds like crap though. I’d vote pound out the very shittiest courses online while you have nothing better to do.But do it with a juco. Cheaper and they're probably better set up for online classes tbh
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it sucks crap we may not get to see Stone Poundin' this fall.
it sucks crap we may not get to see Stone Poundin' this fall.
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A gap year where you just sit at home and do nothing sounds like crap though. I’d vote pound out the very shittiest courses online while you have nothing better to do.
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https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1250879604073652231Thirty percent having access to real weights seems kinda high actually
This blew my mind, but I guess it shouldn't.
If this holds back Sky from getting drafted or making an NFL roster, ALL BETS ARE OFF, FOLKS!!!
https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1250879604073652231Thirty percent having access to real weights seems kinda high actually
This blew my mind, but I guess it shouldn't.
https://twitter.com/ap_top25/status/1252709384515395584?s=21
Is this the perfect time for conference contraction and realignment? :jeffy:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/
Tom
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I don't think spring football is impossible like he insists
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/
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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money. If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO. If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.
I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money. If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO. If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/
Tom
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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money. If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO. If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.
Privileged
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/
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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money. If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO. If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.
Privileged
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Privileged athletes, maybe. Schools hand those scholarships out arbitrarily, and almost none of the programs make enough money to support themselves. So, just keep arbitrarily handing out scholarships, but give it to those with academic qualifications AND economic need. I mean, if they really are going pro in something other than sports, then let's focus on that shall we? Sports are entertainment, nothing more, nothing less.
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.
Flying used to be much more luxurious . . . watch a Mad Men episode or two FFS.
i judge people in athletic shorts on airplanes, you wanna fight 'bout it?
i judge people in athletic shorts on airplanes, you wanna fight 'bout it?Same.
Cool, thanks a lot Mr. GQ for holding us all up in the security line when you have to undo your belt and put your trench coat through and put your suit jacket through and put your fedora through and untie your tie and undo your shoes.
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.Everything Lulu makes is amazing irl. Incred how expensive it is but damn if it isn’t worth it.
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
I've heard this suggestion from about a million people. At some point I'm bound to listen to it
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
I've heard this suggestion from about a million people. At some point I'm bound to listen to it
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
I've heard this suggestion from about a million people. At some point I'm bound to listen to it
ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?
Yeah I would go for itNot sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
I've heard this suggestion from about a million people. At some point I'm bound to listen to it
ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?
I looked at the pants I had and I couldn't tell what they were. When I went a lot was sold out and I thought they had too many optionsNot sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
I've heard this suggestion from about a million people. At some point I'm bound to listen to it
ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?
well, since you downgrades didn't answer my question, i went with these. they seem perfect.
$60 FOR A T-SHIRT!? eff THAT....FINE, here's my money. :curse:A lot of folks (mainly females) swear by these for workout clothes. Do they lock in the stank like a dry fit shirt does over time?
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Holy crap this t-shirt is rough ridin' incredible
So I'm supposed to fly this weekend with my SO. Did we settle on proper flying attire? Do those rules still apply during the quarantine?
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1271551432391622657This is going to go great
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Football is happening.Yep. And it'll be problem free.
I doubt the catbackers have a harem of 16 yr old runaways that ku athletes seem to be attracted to
Yeah, if everyone has already had it, play ballProblem is the coaches and media and fans and the rest of the student body. Unless they can somehow get herd immunity before the season.
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Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stopYeah bundesliga piped in boos for bad calls which was very inspiring
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Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stopYeah bundesliga piped in boos for bad calls which was very inspiring
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I liked the first ones without noise more, but the fake crowd does make it feel more like a normal game and less like a scrimmage.Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stopYeah bundesliga piped in boos for bad calls which was very inspiring
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yeah the piped in noise for bundesliga actually helps quite a bit in my opinion from a viewing standpoint
There should be technology that lets livestreamers control crowd noises in real time. I mean its 2020 lets put this crap to use.
We are so mumped.If football happens at all this year, a widespread COVID outbreak at this point seems like only a positive for the cats.
either ksu admin is over reacting or they had a flawed protocol in place. there shouldn't be many reasons why they couldn't construct a protocol that limited virus spread to small groups who could be isolated leaving the majority of the team open to continuing workouts.
my guess is they designed one and then didn't ensure it was followed. which should have been the #1 focus of the program
now they are just wasting time and resources doing nothing which they should have done everything possible to avoid.
numerous other programs have significantly more positives and are still working out. what do they know that ksu does not?
either ksu admin is over reacting or they had a flawed protocol in place. there shouldn't be many reasons why they couldn't construct a protocol that limited virus spread to small groups who could be isolated leaving the majority of the team open to continuing workouts.Very possible that the other programs are under-reacting too
my guess is they designed one and then didn't ensure it was followed. which should have been the #1 focus of the program
now they are just wasting time and resources doing nothing which they should have done everything possible to avoid.
numerous other programs have significantly more positives and are still working out. what do they know that ksu does not?
I know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.
I think like $200k was his figureI know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.
Where's justwin to tell us how much a life is actuarily worth?
so what's everyone going to miss the most about no college football this season?Definitely crushing suds w/ my bros on the West side :gocho:
probably will be tailgating for me
14 days is all we need to gain the upper hand...
https://theathletic.com/1884185/2020/06/21/kansas-state-football-coronavirus-tests/
TLDR: 2 Players were tested on friday, didnt get results until monday that they were positive after they went out party rocking over the weekend. Kstate retested all the players hanging out with them over the weekend and 6 more players tested positive.
https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1275014756684963843
Muh freedomshttps://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1275014756684963843
yeah. plus a lot of them are living in dorms and they're all expected to go to class with the rest of the students. The soccer teams that have played can have quarantine hotels and do nothing but soccer.
it's gonna spread like crazy on campuses and at football games, the question is does america give a rip or will we just say "let's protect old people and it's all good"
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?
What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?dax, what is the success rate at isolating the virus away from the most vulnerable parts of our population?
What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?dax, what is the success rate at isolating the virus away from the most vulnerable parts of our population?
What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?dax, what is the success rate at isolating the virus away from the most vulnerable parts of our population?
What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?
spoiler alert, it's a 0% success rate
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.
If there's not social distancing and the following of proper procedures yes, it is a bigger problem.
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.
If there's not social distancing and the following of proper procedures yes, it is a bigger problem.
I mean, "proper procedure" would probably require cancelling college as it currently exists. Kids are gonna party and suck face and share bathrooms and gather in large groups.
You take the RONA out of the nursing and assisted care facilities in the U.S. and the morbidity rate plummets.
why not just take covid out of the whole world instead of only nursing homes?
:lol:why not just take covid out of the whole world instead of only nursing homes?
Yep.
Goal #12 - No self limitations.
You take the RONA out of the nursing and assisted care facilities in the U.S. and the morbidity rate plummets.
ok cool that shouldn't be a problem
You'll have to excuse dax, he doesn't actually care about this subject, he just was trying to find a way to crap on cuomo. Why that is so important to him, well I don't really know.
OkdaxBoomer
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.
So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200. Just 100 kids dead to play football this year. Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.
So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200. Just 100 kids dead to play football this year. Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.
As long as we get our football it's all worth the sacrifice, keep up slowOCHOdug.
Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.
LOL, excellent work at making it sound like it's absolutely impossible to pull this off.
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.
So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'l l see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200. Just 100 kids dead to play football this year. Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.
I was using PurpleOil’s 0.5%. No idea if it is valid.Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.
So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'l l see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200. Just 100 kids dead to play football this year. Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.
You aren’t one to pull numbers out of your ass, where is this coming from? I mean I get you are taking a guess at infection rate but the death rate per infected seems really high.
As of yesterday, the 3 and 7 day moving averages of new infections in AL have fallen off a cliff, the 14 day moving average is flat.
The last 5 days of daily numbers have plummeted by half since the last peak. We'll see . . .
Why? What did they do?
It could be a number of things, good and bad. Less testing? I haven't looked at those numbers. Montgomery mandatory mask order? My mask observos from a couple of quick errands yesterday were quite mixed around here, very disappointing.
Hospitalizations down 100 in the last 5 days.
Since we're talking college football, the morbidity rate in the 5-24 age range here is .2% of 831 confirmed Covid-19 deaths. Infection rate of the college age range is 16.64% of 30,301 confirmed cases.
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw. As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died. In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic. The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.
That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.
I really wouldn't -- I'm sure there are plenty of ugly comorbidities even for finely tuned athletes. When you have that many people, there's a fair chance that someone is going to draw the short straw and get a stroke of horrible luck and die (not for nothing, but i presume this is the same as flu and other common illnesses that can get ugly for a few people out of 25,000). All that said, it is exceedingly rare for anyone 15-24 to die from Rona.0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw. As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died. In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic. The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.
That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.
yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
I really wouldn't -- I'm sure there are plenty of ugly comorbidities even for finely tuned athletes. When you have that many people, there's a fair chance that someone is going to draw the short straw and get a stroke of horrible luck and die (not for nothing, but i presume this is the same as flu and other common illnesses that can get ugly for a few people out of 25,000). All that said, it is exceedingly rare for anyone 15-24 to die from Rona.0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw. As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died. In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic. The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.
That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.
yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
Now, 100 dead CFB players would be absolutely shocking to me -- as that would be about double of all deaths from the college demographic to date.
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw. As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died. In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic. The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.
That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.
yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
I really wouldn't -- I'm sure there are plenty of ugly comorbidities even for finely tuned athletes. When you have that many people, there's a fair chance that someone is going to draw the short straw and get a stroke of horrible luck and die (not for nothing, but i presume this is the same as flu and other common illnesses that can get ugly for a few people out of 25,000). All that said, it is exceedingly rare for anyone 15-24 to die from Rona.0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw. As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died. In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic. The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.
That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.
yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
Now, 100 dead CFB players would be absolutely shocking to me -- as that would be about double of all deaths from the college demographic to date.
LOL, excellent work at making it sound like it's absolutely impossible to pull this off.
it's totally possible to pull off, the question is how many people are we willing to let die for it? (lots of people will die if college football is played this year).
we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.
So I’ve heard. I was just taking PurpleOil at face value. That appears to have been a mistake.we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.
the mortality rate among college-aged people is much, much lower than that.
I’m glad we all beat the shot out of 8man today in here.
crowd them together on campuses somewhere for a month or so with no faculty or staff around. complete lord of the flies crap.
Aww yeeeah, time to eff!
So I’ve heard. I was just taking PurpleOil at face value. That appears to have been a mistake.we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.
the mortality rate among college-aged people is much, much lower than that.
The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%
Not sure about Mean Gene, but Currie wouldn’t sacrifice an hour of football prep for that measley sum.I think like $200k was his figureI know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.
Where's justwin to tell us how much a life is actuarily worth?
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out
They really shouldn't be doing that
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out
They really shouldn't be doing that
https://twitter.com/stevenjgaither/status/1276501237484183552
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lol. Oh no, Morehouse pulled out! :lol:
Not exactly new territory for football though. At the beginning of May, most of California said they were suspending fall sports. By the end of May, the P5 colleges were all confident that they would see the field on time. Now they're back to being sidelined. We've got over two months until the first games are supposed to be played. I don't disagree that this looks bad, but two months is an eternity as far as Covid goes. There's no way to predict what the situation will be by then.
I know. :frown: This is how I deal with bad news. By masking it like it never happened and turning it into a joke. What a dumb name for a college, right? :DDid you know Morehouse is a HBC?
I know. :frown: This is how I deal with bad news. By masking it like it never happened and turning it into a joke. What a dumb name for a college, right? :D
I think we are going to have to see a lot more before the FBS conferences pull the plug on football. They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. A season without football will be highly damaging to the athletic departments. I think when they see these pro sports leagues playing they will feel comfortable enough to give it a go.Pro and college sports are two completely different things. Contracts guarantee stuff on Pro Sports. They only guarantee the conferences in college. Idk
... They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. ...
Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?
If KSU doesn’t do entirely online learning, then yes.Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?
Are they being forced to be up close to others who might have COVID-19?
If KSU doesn’t do entirely online learning, then yes.Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?
Are they being forced to be up close to others who might have COVID-19?
I think we are going to have to see a lot more before the FBS conferences pull the plug on football. They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. A season without football will be highly damaging to the athletic departments. I think when they see these pro sports leagues playing they will feel comfortable enough to give it a go.Pro and college sports are two completely different things. Contracts guarantee stuff on Pro Sports. They only guarantee the conferences in college. Idk
It seems like it’s gonna trickle out and the NCAA will eventually pull the plug on the season right before it starts. I mean think about the evolution of how the conference hoops tourneys went. The news just kept getting wilder and wilder until ultimately #BigCovid stole KU’s opportunity to compete for the championship out of their rightful hands.
Btw if by some reason we actually get to play a basketball season but they have to close tge arenas to fans and broadcast games online so we can watch, we better call it Octagon of Zoom lolololol lmao roflmao lolfartbbq
... They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. ...
hold our beer...
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1278048569472233473I find this pretty unlikely, but then again, I'm not a computer science professor.
Lolhttps://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1278048569472233473I find this pretty unlikely, but then again, I'm not a computer science professor.
7 is .1% of scholarship players so yeah that seems very likely :dunno:We're going on 2.7 million reported cases so far. Let's say reporteds are 20 percent of actual (which is pretty conservative imo), which puts our actual infection number at 13.5 million. Let's assume 10 percent of those are in the 15-24 demographic for which we have death totals from the CDC -- which again is pretty conservative given demographics and behavior.
I only used p5 teams, expanding to fbs makes it even more likely :Wha::surprised:
I'm not advocating putting dollar values on lives, but it happens every day on virtually every place on the planet.
The only person this college football season isn’t for, is Mangino and that former Minnesota coach who was somehow part of K-State for a minute and I know this is a real thing, but come on....
No athlete that we know of has died from it. Doesn’t mean I’m saying we shouldn’t be concerned from it, but do we hide in bunkers at this point? It’s definitely here. Cancel the season? Because most athletes have been asymptotic!
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry. Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.Agree with dax here
In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare.
Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff. At least some % of capacity in the stadium. Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.
If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.
Good points.No athlete that we know of has died from it. Doesn’t mean I’m saying we shouldn’t be concerned from it, but do we hide in bunkers at this point? It’s definitely here. Cancel the season? Because most athletes have been asymptotic!
Worth noting that with younger people getting sick, the numbers of younger people dying will go way up. Not all of these football players are in tip top shape, especially given they've been home for 3 months. Here's the story of a triathlete nearly dying, I'm guessing the number of college football players who can run a triathlon is incredibly low.
https://m.startribune.com/minnesota-man-is-an-ironman-covid-19-nearly-killed-him/569761222/
Look at this article, we weren't even a month into distancing when this article was published. This was back when the worldwide average for age of death from coronavirus was literally 78.
I guess what I'm saying is I think the data we have about deaths of younger people will need to be revisited as the average age of contraction dives sharply.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-coronavirus-deaths/
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry. Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.Agree with dax here
In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare.
Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff. At least some % of capacity in the stadium. Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.
If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.
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As for the appropriate academic environment for sports to begin, Emmert said: “College athletes are college students, and you can’t have college sports if you don’t have college (campuses) open and having students on them. You don’t want to ever put student-athletes at greater risk than the rest of the student body.”
In Division I, he said, “all of the commissioners and every president that I’ve talked to is in clear agreement: If you don’t have students on campus, you don’t have student-athletes on campus.
“That doesn’t mean it has to be up and running in the full normal model, but you’ve got to treat the health and well-being of the athletes at least as much as the regular students. So if a school doesn’t reopen, then they’re not going to be playing sports. It’s really that simple.”
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry. Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.Agree with dax here
In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare.
Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff. At least some % of capacity in the stadium. Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.
If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.
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I believe this was addressed when all spring sports were cancelled.QuoteAs for the appropriate academic environment for sports to begin, Emmert said: “College athletes are college students, and you can’t have college sports if you don’t have college (campuses) open and having students on them. You don’t want to ever put student-athletes at greater risk than the rest of the student body.”
In Division I, he said, “all of the commissioners and every president that I’ve talked to is in clear agreement: If you don’t have students on campus, you don’t have student-athletes on campus.
“That doesn’t mean it has to be up and running in the full normal model, but you’ve got to treat the health and well-being of the athletes at least as much as the regular students. So if a school doesn’t reopen, then they’re not going to be playing sports. It’s really that simple.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2020/05/08/coronavirus-mark-emmert-college-sports-return-students-campus/3100733001/
Maybe they've changed their tune after a couple months.
I didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.
I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September
https://twitter.com/HenryBushnell/status/1278320513073516545
August-NovemberI didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.
absolutely.I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September
i think the idea that there might be a college football season without on campus classes is completely delusional and i think having a normal semester with students on campus would put faculty, staff and townies at much increased risk.
far more worried about 20k students in mhk from august-december than 100 college football players, no matter what those players are asked to do.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/usc-reverts-back-to-online-classes-for-fall-semester-a-month-after-announcing-students-would-return-to-campus/
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I didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.
absolutely.I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September
i think the idea that there might be a college football season without on campus classes is completely delusional and i think having a normal semester with students on campus would put faculty, staff and townies at much increased risk.
far more worried about 20k students in mhk from august-december than 100 college football players, no matter what those players are asked to do.
There is no way they can have fans in the stadiums at this point. I suppose the TV money is still big enough to motivate them to pursuing playing this fall, as crazy as that sounds.
A lot of people are speculating on a lot of things already covered in the first post of this threadIt seems like a lot of folks involved with making decisions regarding college football in 2020 have yet to read it
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See y'all in 2021, it's gonna be lit. How will the schools support essentially six classes of scholarshipped athletes?
relatedI’m not sure how you can justify keeping tuition the same with purely online courses. I would be rough ridin' pissed.
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
relatedI’m not sure how you can justify keeping tuition the same with purely online courses. I would be rough ridin' pissed.
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
An anonymous FBS commissioner told ESPN's Heather Dinich that he is "very concerned" about the possibility of a delayed or canceled season.
"I'm still hopeful that we have college football, I'm just more pessimistic that we won't have it on time," the commissioner explained. "I don't see us starting on time at this point. One day I thought, 'I better look at the calendar,' because I felt like it was March 11 again." This is a refrain we have seen repeatedly in the world of college football -- that it feels as though we're back in March, when the coronavirus pandemic first began to shut sports down. The NCAA is charging ahead with its six-week practice plan, which started in earnest for Week 0 teams on Monday. But even beyond the anonymous commish cited, here, we're seeing growing concern over just how realistic -- or unrealistic -- a fall campaign might be. AAC commissioner Mike Aresco brought up one angle of obvious concern, saying, "It's very unlikely that we would play fall sports -- highly unlikely we would play fall sports -- if we didn't have our students back on campus," while WVU AD Shane Lyons (who chairs the Football Oversight Committee) said it simply enough: "For us in college sports and sports in general, it's not trending the way we were hoping it would."
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country. I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.
In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity. But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom. So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.
the sport is in good hands with these all star administrators
everything was fine until the athletes they represent needed them to do something other than make ass loads of $ and glad hand anyone and everyone
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country. I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.
In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity. But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom. So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.
Gonna have outdoor bathrooms and concession stands and clubs? What about all the domed stadiums?And obviously there won't be college football in 2020 lol
I can see the NFL doing what the soccer leagues are doing, there won't be fans. No rough ridin' way.
They could have the season if they lifted ameteurism, right? :fatty:I think that's the only way, at least if more schools cancel in-person classes
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.). Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
Oh crap, they solved this thingDesperate times call for desperate measures
https://twitter.com/bdavisaas/status/1280641622787739648
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Oh crap, they solved this thingWe’d better still be able to shove our spaceship down a Jayhawks throat at home though
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And there is not much point of having fans if they’re not going to be yelling, which outside of maybe sneezing or coughing has to be the best way to spread coronavirus.They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.). Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
Another problem is it's gathering people from across the region, intermingling, and sending them all home to spread it to their communities. It's just encourages people to travel who probably wouldn't have otherwise.And there is not much point of having fans if they’re not going to be yelling, which outside of maybe sneezing or coughing has to be the best way to spread coronavirus.They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.). Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
Cheerleaders in masks could maybe be kinky for some people if that's your kinda thing.
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.). Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.
relatedI’m not sure how you can justify keeping tuition the same with purely online courses. I would be rough ridin' pissed.
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
what's kinda crazy is they're still inviting 40% of undergrads to campus (but they will still have all their classes online)
https://www.fas.harvard.edu/fas-decision-2020-2021-academic-year
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country. I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.
In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity. But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom. So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.). Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.
So a "Fraction" equals 2.5M cases (with Russia and Eastern Europe massively under counted), and 200K deaths? Interesting.
Even if you reduce transmission by 90% you are increasing crowd size by what - around 100x what you typically have seen to date? Not sure how that math works outi dont think we know. i haven't seen or heard any epidemiologist attribute much of this virus increase to all the protesters gathering around the country the last month. they attribute that to a lot of protesters using masks. it appears a lot of the hotspots are restaurants, bars, and large family gatherings often indoors. if we excluded cases of the virus that were found to occur during indoor activity there wouldn't be a lot of infections. Fact is, outside transmission is not considered to be a key contributor in this pandemic.
And yeah, I would expect mask compliance to be well under 100%
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
Even if you reduce transmission by 90% you are increasing crowd size by what - around 100x what you typically have seen to date? Not sure how that math works outi dont think we know. i haven't seen or heard any epidemiologist attribute much of this virus increase to all the protesters gathering around the country the last month. they attribute that to a lot of protesters using masks. it appears a lot of the hotspots are restaurants, bars, and large family gatherings often indoors. if we excluded cases of the virus that were found to occur during indoor activity there wouldn't be a lot of infections. Fact is, outside transmission is not considered to be a key contributor in this pandemic.
And yeah, I would expect mask compliance to be well under 100%
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.). Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.
So a "Fraction" equals 2.5M cases (with Russia and Eastern Europe massively under counted), and 200K deaths? Interesting.
I don't believe any of the countries you have in mind have started sports leagues yet.
have you seen BSFS when there's 20k people there? Hell, let's call it 17,500, an even third. Require masks. Let families sit together, space everyone else out in every 4th or 5th seat. Encourage people to social distance in bathrooms.They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
Well yeah they could do it but it wouldn't be smart. Haven't been to BSFS in a while but 20k at A's games still leads to a lot larger and tighter crowds than you'd ever see in a typical restaurant because 20 thousand people are all moving and congregating at basically the same times. (I know it's an old shitty stadium but still).
An outbreak at a college or NFL game beyond something like the 85 cases at that Lansing bar would be a PR disaster.
(Also full capacity indoor dining probably isn't the best idea yet, either)
have you seen BSFS when there's 20k people there? Hell, let's call it 17,500, an even third. Require masks. Let families sit together, space everyone else out in every 4th or 5th seat. Encourage people to social distance in bathrooms.They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.
Well yeah they could do it but it wouldn't be smart. Haven't been to BSFS in a while but 20k at A's games still leads to a lot larger and tighter crowds than you'd ever see in a typical restaurant because 20 thousand people are all moving and congregating at basically the same times. (I know it's an old shitty stadium but still).
An outbreak at a college or NFL game beyond something like the 85 cases at that Lansing bar would be a PR disaster.
(Also full capacity indoor dining probably isn't the best idea yet, either)
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment? the economics may not work out, but if they do work out - then i think it makes sense to infuse some cash so that we can minimize the negative effects that non-revenue generating sports will suffer (and boy are those going to suffer).i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.
Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment?i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.
Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
Also the industry that funds tens of thousands of scholarships for non-profit generating athletes, along with employing tens of thousands of people.because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment?i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.
Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.
I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
if the pros dont go then yes it would be a bad look for colleges. but we dont have that answer yet. and we dont have an answer as to how much risk the athletes are putting into their communities either. they are a very minor portion of the overall student population. i dont think the network money is small potatoes. We still have 7 weeks until season starts. lets see how the teams infection rates look in mid august after practicing for a few weeks face to face. and lets continue to monitor recoveries. and i'm all for taking player opinions into account. we need a system that allows players to sit out without repercussionsbecause college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment?i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.
Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.
I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
if the pros dont go then yes it would be a bad look for colleges. but we dont have that answer yet. and we dont have an answer as to how much risk the athletes are putting into their communities either. they are a very minor portion of the overall student population. i dont think the network money is small potatoes. We still have 7 weeks until season starts. lets see how the teams infection rates look in mid august after practicing for a few weeks face to face. and lets continue to monitor recoveries. and i'm all for taking player opinions into account. we need a system that allows players to sit out without repercussionsbecause college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment?i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.
Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.
I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/1280916132401000448
i think the use of online with social distanced classroom work and mandatory masks could work for college attendance. i dont know how they are going to house everyone though. dorms and greek houses are overcrowded to begin with. and tests cost $100 eachif the pros dont go then yes it would be a bad look for colleges. but we dont have that answer yet. and we dont have an answer as to how much risk the athletes are putting into their communities either. they are a very minor portion of the overall student population. i dont think the network money is small potatoes. We still have 7 weeks until season starts. lets see how the teams infection rates look in mid august after practicing for a few weeks face to face. and lets continue to monitor recoveries. and i'm all for taking player opinions into account. we need a system that allows players to sit out without repercussionsbecause college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment?i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street. i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.
Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.
I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
FWIW I'm not worried about playing games. I think reopening colleges this fall is a bad idea but playing football doesn't make it any worse if they're open. crowds of 20k might though.
Do what the gyms are doing. Take temps of the attendees and if they're not sick, let them in.
Our office has a thermometer at our receptionist's desk but nobody really uses it except for me. She and I have a game where I guess my temperature whenever I walk past her desk. I've become very good at it.Do what the gyms are doing. Take temps of the attendees and if they're not sick, let them in.
These businesses that take temperatures is the most maddeningly dumb thing I've ever seen, it's like wearing a bubble jacket as a bulletproof vest. I'm so glad my gym stopped doing it.
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea
I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea
I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.
That was among the excuses not to promote mask wearing and it set us back big time.Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea
I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.
Also props to SD for scooping this back in AprilThank you, I am extraordinarily prescient and modest.
The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.
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The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.Agreed. Playing only conference games makes no sense as a middle ground.
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Nope. Regional play makes sense.The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.Agreed. Playing only conference games makes no sense as a middle ground.
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Regional? Like WVU playing TTU?Keep it conference to conference testing. WV is a low state for positive cases. Private plane, game-to-game. No non con makes sense for in conference play.
Regional? Like WVU playing TTU?Keep it conference to conference testing. WV is a low state for positive cases. Private plane, game-to-game. No non con makes sense for in conference play.
maybe the cats could just play in state schools.. ku, washburn, emporia state, pittsburg, some jucos. just a battle for the sunflower state
Maybe we can set a record for most fans traveling inside state lines.
I agree 100% that the not playing football will be devastating to the universities. And I honestly bet it happens in some format (DESPITE MY STILL PRESCIENT CALL THAT IT WOULD NOT). But, there is a zero percent chance a general student population doesn't return to (most) campus this fall. there is not an appetite for it from the students, their parents, the government, or the institutions. The only ones who DO have that desire generally don't have money in the pot (there are exceptions obv). It being the "Right" thing to do is a tertiary factor unfortunately.
As a separate point I'm glad it's a wake up call for universities relying on sports revenue so much now, leading into player professionalism, which will happen.
:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/
Not gonna lie, I would get a lot of petty satisfaction to see ND with no games this season.:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/
If we go conference only it makes sense to bring them in for a year to get to 10 games.
I can only speak with knowledge about one school but they absolutely want students on campus. They know they won’t get away with charging full tuition without it. And can’t afford the sunk capital costs with nobody on campus. And obviously they know they probably won’t be able to suckle on the football teet to make up for it. Most of what is being done is just using auditorium, arena, etc space for classrooms to social distance and getting weird with the schedule. They aren’t retrofitting every room with dividers or anything.I agree 100% that the not playing football will be devastating to the universities. And I honestly bet it happens in some format (DESPITE MY STILL PRESCIENT CALL THAT IT WOULD NOT). But, there is a zero percent chance a general student population doesn't return to (most) campus this fall. there is not an appetite for it from the students, their parents, the government, or the institutions. The only ones who DO have that desire generally don't have money in the pot (there are exceptions obv). It being the "Right" thing to do is a tertiary factor unfortunately.
As a separate point I'm glad it's a wake up call for universities relying on sports revenue so much now, leading into player professionalism, which will happen.
It's really the right thing for the universities to do, keep students off campus. I don't think any of these schools have the money or time to keep these students safe. A local district here put half a mile of plexiglass in one high school. How will they manage that on a campus with dozens of buildings and resident halls? That's not even taking into account that they don't have the ability to quarantine the students before they arrive on campus or do it for two weeks on campus before classes start. If these campuses open they will all be super spreader greenhouses.
The crisis this week was looking up every foreign registered student and making sure they had enrolled in at least 1 on campus course so our big dumb president didn’t try to deport them. Foreign students pay a gigantic portion of tuition since they are the only ones that really pay “full” price.
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Not gonna lie, I would get a lot of petty satisfaction to see ND with no games this season.:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/
If we go conference only it makes sense to bring them in for a year to get to 10 games.
Are there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?
Take a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.htmlquestion: why do all the sports teams and organizations know there will be positive tests, admit it, and prepare for them with protocols, only to respond to them by shutting down? i understand the general public may hold the most weight here and they might not want even 1 positive in a college athlete but what about the athletics leadership and sports writers? they too respond to the positives like each one is a death instead of what they have planned for all along. did they plan for them but really just hope they would never happen?QuoteTake a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.htmlquestion: why do all the sports teams and organizations know there will be positive tests, admit it, and prepare for them with protocols, only to respond to them by shutting down? i understand the general public may hold the most weight here and they might not want even 1 positive in a college athlete but what about the athletics leadership and sports writers? they too respond to the positives like each one is a death instead of what they have planned for all along. did they plan for them but really just hope they would never happen?QuoteTake a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
And they have to act like they are trying not to allow anyone at all to get it, lest they get their balls and asses and taints sued off (or at least attempted to be sued off). Also, they will look bad in front of other academics, and peer pressure is very powerful in that culture.i haven't thought this thru so pardon if its idiotic but do we know if college athletes have been asked to sign medical waivers to participate?
Does anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?did you read the statement sent out from ISU AD to their alumni? it explains why. as most others in positions of leadership they are trying to balance safety with avoiding economic disaster causing long term elimination of resources for student athletes
Does anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?did you read the statement sent out from ISU AD to their alumni? it explains why. as most others in positions of leadership they are trying to balance safety with avoiding economic disaster causing long term elimination of resources for student athletes
Are there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?
yeah, student athletes get medical insurance. at least scholarship athletes do.
athletics going out of business would be bad for the educational mission of the universityDoes anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?did you read the statement sent out from ISU AD to their alumni? it explains why. as most others in positions of leadership they are trying to balance safety with avoiding economic disaster causing long term elimination of resources for student athletes
No I didn't read, but universities are for education, athletics are secondary and maybe this will put things back in their proper order.
not sure. long lasting effects? i assume you are talking about the fairly rare instances where people's symptoms are still lingering after many weeks? it would be hard to predict that athletes will have any long last effect based on current knowledge. but we probably couldn't completely rule it out eitherAre there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?
yeah, student athletes get medical insurance. at least scholarship athletes do.
Does that include future medical bills due to the long lasting effects?
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.htmlquestion: why do all the sports teams and organizations know there will be positive tests, admit it, and prepare for them with protocols, only to respond to them by shutting down? i understand the general public may hold the most weight here and they might not want even 1 positive in a college athlete but what about the athletics leadership and sports writers? they too respond to the positives like each one is a death instead of what they have planned for all along. did they plan for them but really just hope they would never happen?QuoteTake a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
What will be the most significant implications of the 2021 season essentially having 2 recruiting classes with zero game experience? At some schools, that will probably mean guys transferring, because it's hard honor that many bullshit recruiting promises about early playing time.it won't stop coaches from selling their BS. in the last 2 years nebraska has added more new players to their program than any program in america.
Could it actually end up helping "developmental" programs like ours? A whole bunch of 5th and 6th year seniors, and more competition among the younger guys?
It all depends on the talent they bring in. Some top coaches will play the most talented, so the recruits think they will play over the more experienced, but less talented.What will be the most significant implications of the 2021 season essentially having 2 recruiting classes with zero game experience? At some schools, that will probably mean guys transferring, because it's hard honor that many bullshit recruiting promises about early playing time.it won't stop coaches from selling their BS. in the last 2 years nebraska has added more new players to their program than any program in america.
Could it actually end up helping "developmental" programs like ours? A whole bunch of 5th and 6th year seniors, and more competition among the younger guys?
essentially they have 2 full classes made up of freshmen only. that hasn't stopped them from getting commits from top recruits who will end up sitting a long time because the roster is the youngest in the country. kids just can't NOT believe coaches BS
North Carolina coaches will utilize face shields and use sticks to ensure their social distancing from players in practices.
Enhanced workouts -- covering walk throughs and the like -- are the next step of CFB's attempted season boot-up before the start of preseason camps in earnest. UNC had to shut down mandatory workouts earlier this month due to COVID-19 positives, but has since reopened the weight room. While face shields and social distancing sticks might seem a bit unorthodox for a football practice, keep in mind that UNC HC Mack Brown is 68 years old. He's far from along in falling into the older demographic among coaches.
When is the official announcement?
When is the official announcement?
The Michigan State, Rutgers, and UNC outbreaks are from teams just reporting. The teams that reported a month ago doesn't seem to have outbreaks. With all of these pro sports going and all of the news that's looking like they are making plans to proceed, like ND joining the ACC, I just don't think these FBS conferences will find enough reason not to play. The coaches know the players want to play and that message is getting to the ADs who are passing it to the administrators. The talking point that not playing is safer for the players isn't an overwhelming one for players, coaches, and ADs. If we're being honest playing isn't less safe than what these 20 year olds would be doing otherwise. There's a reason why so many of these guys are arriving to campus with the rona, but the levels of those infested that have been.on campus for an extended period of time is much lower.
The Michigan State, Rutgers, and UNC outbreaks are from teams just reporting. The teams that reported a month ago doesn't seem to have outbreaks. With all of these pro sports going and all of the news that's looking like they are making plans to proceed, like ND joining the ACC, I just don't think these FBS conferences will find enough reason not to play. The coaches know the players want to play and that message is getting to the ADs who are passing it to the administrators. The talking point that not playing is safer for the players isn't an overwhelming one for players, coaches, and ADs. If we're being honest playing isn't less safe than what these 20 year olds would be doing otherwise. There's a reason why so many of these guys are arriving to campus with the rona, but the levels of those infested that have been.on campus for an extended period of time is much lower.
The reasons they won't play is because students won't be on campus
I think students on campus matter.
So, what happens if it’s all over the place? The big 10 isn’t playing non-league games... Cal-Berkeley has gone all virtual for the first semester and certainly other California schools will, too... Ivy League has postponed until Spring...I understand your sentiment, but I don’t think all of the weirdness and unbalanced parts should matter to the decision of whether to play or not. Ultimately, why should Kansas State care whether the PAC-12 has a normally crowned champion, or if the 4 teams in the CFP are as fairly selected as usual?
So some teams will play a full schedule and others like Ohio State will, what, end their season after a total of nine games, yet still argue to be let into the CFP because it’s not their fault they couldn’t play those other three? That seems weird. Will there be Dr. Peppers for some conferences but not others? Where will they be played?
They just need to make a clean break and cancel the season. This is bound to be both a mess and a danger.
I think they are concerned with maintaining the illusion of amateurism. Gonna be tough to keep that up if they play football while all the other students are at home. (Although everyone else at home definitely makes containing the spread easier).I think students on campus matter.
Yeah, I do too, I'm not sure the decision makers care what we think.
If we were going to cancel the season because the CFP/conferences have weird scheduling and competitive discrepancies that lead to unfair results, we might as well just retroactively cancel college football too.
I think they are concerned with maintaining the illusion of amateurism. Gonna be tough to keep that up if they play football while all the other students are at home. (Although everyone else at home definitely makes containing the spread easier).I think students on campus matter.
Yeah, I do too, I'm not sure the decision makers care what we think.
It's just a pickle.
They’re playing and I’m looking forward to the meltdown.
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They’re playing and I’m looking forward to the meltdown.
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So, what happens if it’s all over the place? The big 10 isn’t playing non-league games... Cal-Berkeley has gone all virtual for the first semester and certainly other California schools will, too... Ivy League has postponed until Spring...
So some teams will play a full schedule and others like Ohio State will, what, end their season after a total of nine games, yet still argue to be let into the CFP because it’s not their fault they couldn’t play those other three? That seems weird. Will there be Dr. Peppers for some conferences but not others? Where will they be played?
They just need to make a clean break and cancel the season. This is bound to be both a mess and a danger.
they're gonna have to cancel MLBMaybe. I don’t think it will happen now though.
https://twitter.com/ericjackson/status/1287750533638430723
LOL
https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1287759417371496450
CFB players should just have covid parties right now if they want to play because they're gonna get it
i'm a little surprised no one has come up with a rapid test yet and figured out widespread distribution. This should have been just as big a focus from day 1 as a vaccine. a rapid test would allow much of our society to live relatively normally and stop hotspots in their tracks. imagine how many hospitalizations and deaths could have been avoided if we had a rapid test that everyone had access to on a daily basis. That could have gotten us through until a potential vaccine. and it will be the downfall of sports. No one would have to quarantine because they could test every morning. What will ruin college sports is the mandatory 2 week quarantines. It will crush programs. not necessarily the number of positive tests.CFB players should just have covid parties right now if they want to play because they're gonna get it
NFL teams too. Bet on the teams that have the most guys who have already had it.
rapid tests and testing capacity are kind of at odds with each other because the rapid tests are 1 at a time and the others are like 130 at a time, but yes our testing capacity is holding us back and it is definitely too late to fix.instead of quickly seeing this as a bridge to the vaccine Trump didn't want to believe anything bad could happen. Instead of hoping something bad wouldn't happen he should have instantly spend a several billion dollars to do this. in the long run it would have saved our economy trillions of dollars. Its better to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Trump forgot the plan for the worst part
Yeah, it was the Rona :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:
I was pretty sure NFL would play but this could throw a wrench in thingspatriots tanking to get overall 1st pick
https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1288135217505603585
Or ND not wanting the usual lunatics on their campus.Yeah, it was the Rona :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:
I'm sure there is a pit thread about this, debating Biden's dementia versus it being impossible to "debate" a pathological liar, etc. Let's just keep it down there in the Pit tho.
Or ND not wanting the usual lunatics on their campus.Yeah, it was the Rona :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:
I'm sure there is a pit thread about this, debating Biden's dementia versus it being impossible to "debate" a pathological liar, etc. Let's just keep it down there in the Pit tho.
SEC clownsuits the Big 12. This is really smartI mean, all other P5 conferences have pretty much done that
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29566090/sec-play-10-game-conference-only-football-schedule
I imagine we'll collect an amount from Vandy that will cover the cost of canceling the other two non-cons.vanderbilt won't be sending us a check
Interesting. But I guess we can continue to pad our schedule. :cool:
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1288896007153934342
Also Bowl Eligibility and RankingsInteresting. But I guess we can continue to pad our schedule. :cool:
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1288896007153934342
they do it for revenue + scrimmaging. but mostly revenue. I think Mandel knows this
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.
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U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.LOL who's setting the compliance
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Nebraska MedU of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.LOL who's setting the compliance
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Well that's probably better than the CDC at leastNebraska MedU of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.LOL who's setting the compliance
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I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.
(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.No group projects in college would've be a huge bonus
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SEC clownsuits the Big 12. This is really smartI think the Big 12 is being pretty clever about this.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29566090/sec-play-10-game-conference-only-football-schedule
Hello BYU
I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.
(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.
give everyone an extra year of eligibility and enough scholarships to (temporarily) accommodate that. maybe some sort of maximum number of minutes played to force coaches to use the extra players.
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.
give everyone an extra year of eligibility and enough scholarships to (temporarily) accommodate that. maybe some sort of maximum number of minutes played to force coaches to use the extra players.
Hello BYU
I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.
(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)
We didn't have to give them anything, they have their own tv deal they can hang onto. Anyway,
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https://twitter.com/mattmosley/status/1289252041034887171
They are doing that, it was stated in the Big XII media article.
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story
I would also recommend sight I seen Kevin Keitzman’s upcoming new podcastcould
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Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story
I would also recommend sight I seen Kevin Keitzman’s upcoming new podcastcould
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What Kashi is saying is "let them get it, they won't go to the hospital" which is honestly a better plan than the delay and pray plan that everyone seems to be embracing
https://twitter.com/BelieveBoston_/status/1289669919655825414
But did he die?What Kashi is saying is "let them get it, they won't go to the hospital" which is honestly a better plan than the delay and pray plan that everyone seems to be embracinghttps://twitter.com/BelieveBoston_/status/1289669919655825414
Kashi, Check out Clay Travis (@ClayTravis): https://twitter.com/ClayTravis?s=09what do you want me to check out. there is a lot of stuff on his twitter page
i guess i'm asking what is it about baseball that has been so horrible? i guess if you are saying we cannot tolerate any positive covid tests then yes any sport will be in "trouble". There have been at least 1000 positive tests in college fb players that have been verified. probably 100s of others that haven't been documented. I haven't read of a single hospitalization. I'm not saying it couldn't happen or won't happen. But other than some positive tests and a majority that are asymptomatic what is it about it that makes it a disaster? i dont want to get sick and dont want anyone else to get sick either but so far there's hardly been any athletes even report symptoms. if our goal is zero infections then yes we cannot have football. i'm just wondering if we have a few thousand infections and the majority are asymptomatic and none require hospitalizations is that unacceptable? i know we dont know everything about this virus but we so readily accept other viruses and diseases in our athletes that we dont even try to prevent them. we dont try at all. i'm not saying i know the answer im just asking questions. we expose these very same athletes without any precautions to every other virus on the planet and most of the time any of those viruses carry a bigger symptom burden than the coronavirus. so the only explanation i can come up with is the unknown variable with covidBaseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story
What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.
Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
The players who get coronavirus in their petri dishes of empty stadiums will spread it across the rest of the country that they're traveling around to.
i guess i'm asking what is it about baseball that has been so horrible? i guess if you are saying we cannot tolerate any positive covid tests then yes any sport will be in "trouble". There have been at least 1000 positive tests in college fb players that have been verified. probably 100s of others that haven't been documented. I haven't read of a single hospitalization. I'm not saying it couldn't happen or won't happen. But other than some positive tests and a majority that are asymptomatic what is it about it that makes it a disaster? i dont want to get sick and dont want anyone else to get sick either but so far there's hardly been any athletes even report symptoms. if our goal is zero infections then yes we cannot have football. i'm just wondering if we have a few thousand infections and the majority are asymptomatic and none require hospitalizations is that unacceptable? i know we dont know everything about this virus but we so readily accept other viruses and diseases in our athletes that we dont even try to prevent them. we dont try at all. i'm not saying i know the answer im just asking questions. we expose these very same athletes without any precautions to every other virus on the planet and most of the time any of those viruses carry a bigger symptom burden than the coronavirus. so the only explanation i can come up with is the unknown variable with covidBaseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story
What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.
Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
you mean more positive tests? i agree. i'm asking if more positive tests is a disaster? if no one gets hospitalized and few even have symptoms and these players are spending their first semester at school and not around their families are isolated positive tests without symptoms all that terrible of a thing?i guess i'm asking what is it about baseball that has been so horrible? i guess if you are saying we cannot tolerate any positive covid tests then yes any sport will be in "trouble". There have been at least 1000 positive tests in college fb players that have been verified. probably 100s of others that haven't been documented. I haven't read of a single hospitalization. I'm not saying it couldn't happen or won't happen. But other than some positive tests and a majority that are asymptomatic what is it about it that makes it a disaster? i dont want to get sick and dont want anyone else to get sick either but so far there's hardly been any athletes even report symptoms. if our goal is zero infections then yes we cannot have football. i'm just wondering if we have a few thousand infections and the majority are asymptomatic and none require hospitalizations is that unacceptable? i know we dont know everything about this virus but we so readily accept other viruses and diseases in our athletes that we dont even try to prevent them. we dont try at all. i'm not saying i know the answer im just asking questions. we expose these very same athletes without any precautions to every other virus on the planet and most of the time any of those viruses carry a bigger symptom burden than the coronavirus. so the only explanation i can come up with is the unknown variable with covidBaseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story
What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.
Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
Your posts are too long and you need to use paragraphs. College football will be significantly worse than anything that has happened in baseball, in a massive way. I thought I made that point, I guess I didn't.
You are a dumb SOB. If you read anything about this virus, you would relealize there are long term health effects. As Clams stated, "no coffin, no foul". Seems like you don't give a eff about these young men; just as long as you can sit on your fat ass and enjoy some college football.what? no one has said they know there are long term health effects. They have said they dont know that answer. how could anyone possibly know that answer? it hasn't been long term yet. the only thing they have said about long term is they dont know the answer. Now the very sick people may take a very long time to recover and its possible some of them have some sort of long term effects but that is not the topic of this discussion. we are talking about predominantly asymptomatic cases or at worst mild cases that go away within a week. What long term health effects can you document in people who were asymptomatic or very mild disease? and how can it be long term when it hasn't been a but a couple months?
Would be nice if your employer felt the same way about you. Think about that you MAGA bad person.
You are a dumb SOB. If you read anything about this virus, you would relealize there are long term health effects. As Clams stated, "no coffin, no foul". Seems like you don't give a eff about these young men; just as long as you can sit on your fat ass and enjoy some college football.what? no one has said they know there are long term health effects. They have said they dont know that answer. how could anyone possibly know that answer? it hasn't been long term yet. the only thing they have said about long term is they dont know the answer. Now the very sick people may take a very long time to recover and its possible some of them have some sort of long term effects but that is not the topic of this discussion. we are talking about predominantly asymptomatic cases or at worst mild cases that go away within a week. What long term health effects can you document in people who were asymptomatic or very mild disease? and how can it be long term when it hasn't been a but a couple months?
Would be nice if your employer felt the same way about you. Think about that you MAGA bad person.
Unlike the students going for their degree the athletic scholarship students have to do what the AD requires to keep their eligibility. Most don't have a way to get a degree w/o the scholarship. So they are mumped on decisions regarding their health. This whole thing stinks for these kids. Look at what happened at WSU.thats just flat wrong. any athlete who chooses not to play still gets their scholarship and everything else. they do not have to play. where did you come up with this crap?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916i agree this is concerning. as the authors state they did not include asymptomatic individuals in this study. so they probably need to study asymptomatic patients to see if this applies to them as well. This is why KSU med staff is doing follow up heart studies before positive players are allowed to return to conditioning drills. there is a lot more we dont know about this than we do know. I haven't googled it but is the flu associated with similar heart enzyme abnormalities? i do know a lot of different viruses can cause systemic inflammation including myocarditis. this would make corona similar to others but i dont think anyone has compared the incidence rate between the viruses. the number in this study seems pretty high though. not sure what incidence is with flu
The early returns seem not great on long term health effects. Smallish study, relatively short term, but a reason for pessimism.
sounds like myocarditis is a common complication of flu viruses. Most often people dont even know they have it. A few have complications related to it. Maybe we should be doing more to prevent flu spread than we do? as a society we dont seem to give a rats ass if anyone gets the fluhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916i agree this is concerning. as the authors state they did not include asymptomatic individuals in this study. so they probably need to study asymptomatic patients to see if this applies to them as well. This is why KSU med staff is doing follow up heart studies before positive players are allowed to return to conditioning drills. there is a lot more we dont know about this than we do know. I haven't googled it but is the flu associated with similar heart enzyme abnormalities? i do know a lot of different viruses can cause systemic inflammation including myocarditis. this would make corona similar to others but i dont think anyone has compared the incidence rate between the viruses. the number in this study seems pretty high though. not sure what incidence is with flu
The early returns seem not great on long term health effects. Smallish study, relatively short term, but a reason for pessimism.
rutgers team and staff are blowing up w c19This might be their best season yet if they can keep this up
kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.1. despite having a vaccine its estimated that it only reduces flu transmission by an average of 50%-60% estimated over decades. So the vaccine lowers transmission but there is still flu every year
Darren Rovell with a terrible tweet but there is at least one example of a hospitalization (at least the ER)hate to see that happen to anyone. hope it turns out to be acute in nature and he recovers quickly. it would be impossible to call this case permanent damage or even long lasting damage at this point. It requires continuing monitoring. its possible he could be on the field for the first game
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1290406145866301443
Diseases like rona and flu get less deadly over time due to mutations.kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.1. despite having a vaccine its estimated that it only reduces flu transmission by an average of 50%-60% estimated over decades. So the vaccine lowers transmission but there is still flu every year
2. my point is that with a vaccine or without a vaccine our society just doesn't worry much; think much; or do much (other than some of us get a free shot) to try to prevent any of the other viruses out there that cause myocarditis. Now are they as prevalent as corona currently is? No
so the incidence of myocarditis will probably be much higher because covid is being transmitted everywhere to everyone.
i guess if the flu was this contagious maybe we would be more concerned about it. But its amazing how invisible on the radar the flu is even during flu season. FYI if we end up living with corona for the rest of our lives my prediction will be that we will eventually become numb to it like we are to the flu. right now it is so new and unknown and different. A year from now it might still be around but not be on the front page any more
Diseases like rona and flu get less deadly over time due to mutations.
The deadly strains die out you dumb eff
Maybe we should be doing more to prevent flu spread than we do? as a society we dont seem to give a rats ass if anyone gets the flu
you'd be wrong on that last point. flu deaths have been higher recently than in the past. despite increasing or stable vaccination ratesDiseases like rona and flu get less deadly over time due to mutations.kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.1. despite having a vaccine its estimated that it only reduces flu transmission by an average of 50%-60% estimated over decades. So the vaccine lowers transmission but there is still flu every year
2. my point is that with a vaccine or without a vaccine our society just doesn't worry much; think much; or do much (other than some of us get a free shot) to try to prevent any of the other viruses out there that cause myocarditis. Now are they as prevalent as corona currently is? No
so the incidence of myocarditis will probably be much higher because covid is being transmitted everywhere to everyone.
i guess if the flu was this contagious maybe we would be more concerned about it. But its amazing how invisible on the radar the flu is even during flu season. FYI if we end up living with corona for the rest of our lives my prediction will be that we will eventually become numb to it like we are to the flu. right now it is so new and unknown and different. A year from now it might still be around but not be on the front page any more
The deadly strains die out you dumb eff
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https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848?s=19
Maybe we should be doing more to prevent flu spread than we do? as a society we dont seem to give a rats ass if anyone gets the flu
i think a big part of our attitude towards the flu is that we don't really know what it is (like sciencewise we do, but not in the general culture). like most years in my life, at some point i've caught some sort of respiratory illness and generally i've had no idea what it was and have guessed - welp i've got a cold or the flu or maybe it's allergies, i dunno. i guess i'll drink more orange juice for a few days.
it wasn't until this spring that i paid any attention to the causes of those diseases and i now know enough to look back and realize i've probably only had an actual influenza infection once or twice in my life and what we call a cold is a catchall for the symptoms of like a hundred different minor respiratory illnesses.
so like, most of us probably has a concept of influenza as being a less serious and more prevalent illness than it actually is because we conflate it with all sorts of other respiratory illnesses that have superficially similar symptoms.
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848?s=19
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The university president should fire the coach and the AD, if he/she doesn't the governor should.
Darren Rovell with a terrible tweet but there is at least one example of a hospitalization (at least the ER)hate to see that happen to anyone. hope it turns out to be acute in nature and he recovers quickly. it would be impossible to call this case permanent damage or even long lasting damage at this point. It requires continuing monitoring. its possible he could be on the field for the first game
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1290406145866301443
UConn called it
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D3 athletes don’t get athletic scholarships. I learned this the hard way on a visit, after the recruiter didn’t disclose this for months over the phone. They have nothing to lose by doing this. Good call.
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So like if they opt out and it's a single year scholly... schools could still retaliate by not renewing next yesr?
The Pac12's program to loan the school AD's money to stay afloat sounds like a good plan. The Big 12 should copy a lot of what the Pac12 is doing imo. Finally time for the nerd conferences to shine.
FCS moving to spring
An odd question here... who manages the officials? Could a bunch of them opt out? Official shortage? Or is there someone at lower level ready to step up to big time?
Tom
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cRustyhas Co-Captain of the CoronaBro team, I need to ask how does one spot a "MAGA ref"?
Because of Covid NU has finals on a Saturday. And the dumbshits have a home football game that day, lmao. I assume that game won’t be played but lmao anyway.
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No MACtion? Now what am I going to do on a crisp fall Tuesday night? :frown:You’re going to need to find something else to do the remaining 6 days as well.
What is going to be different in March?Nothing.
What is going to be different in March?
At the very least, we don't yet know that spring football will be a disaster like we know it will be if they try to play in the next three weeksWhat is going to be different in March?
hopefully vaccines and therapeutics.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1292146950490341377
if you chuds would learn to trust every word I say you would already be at the 5th stage of grief ahead of everyone else
Not going to lie I’m crushed. When does CBB get cancelled SD? Kind of feels like the beginning of the end of college sports as we know it.I think CBB will get cancelled after multiple fall semester outbreaks lead to sending everyone home
How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?is this a serious question?
#pussificationofAmerica happening in front of our eyes.
7500-10,000 Americans DIE everyday of something..
21+ days of 1000-1200 "Covid" deaths. id say we can only truly count about half of them. (rest are pneumonia, heart attacks etc)
we are shutting down this country for this? cmonnn man.
Hey SD, stop your victory tour beers...
https://twitter.com/tribunedanny/status/1292195441401122821?s=21
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How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?It doesn't, certainly not like we know. They'd literally have to get a billion dollar loan. Just losing the tournament alone for two years is a $1.5 billion dollar loss in television and gate revenue.
What are their expenses if no one does crap though?
What are their expenses if no one does crap though?
Looks like about 500 million
if you chuds would learn to trust every word I say you would already be at the 5th stage of grief ahead of everyone else
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?I don't know if anyone in the world wants college football to be played more than you, bud. You've been on a fascinating journey with this thread.
https://twitter.com/trevorlawrencee/status/1292599402784325632im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?I don't know if anyone in the world wants college football to be played more than you, bud. You've been on a fascinating journey with this thread.
Yikes. Sorry about your low T.
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could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?Um....wut? :confused: Nobody writes that story because only an idiot would write that story.
https://twitter.com/trevorlawrencee/status/1292599402784325632im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?I don't know if anyone in the world wants college football to be played more than you, bud. You've been on a fascinating journey with this thread.
Dodd has been one of the CononaBro writers who has been walking the edge of openly wanting the season to be cancelled.
It's kind of ironic that the person who coined the term "coronabros" and makes the claim that people are cheering for the virus more than anyone probably stands to gain the most if college football is cancelled or postponed. And the traditional sportswriters being accused of cheering for the virus probably stand to lose the mostDodd has been one of the CononaBro writers who has been walking the edge of openly wanting the season to be cancelled.
So people don't die or have long term health issues.
Dax, you do understand that rona is contagious and a broken neck is not, right?
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
Look at this idiot.
HEALTH SCARE
NFL Star Cameron Smith Needs Open-Heart Surgery After Positive COVID-19 Test.
Yea, it doesn't cause any problems; it's just like the flu. This is the kind of crap the college AD's don't want to deal with, as in liability for long term heath issues.
I'm pretty sure he was born with this (or a statement from Cameron made it appear that way).im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
Look at this idiot.
HEALTH SCARE
NFL Star Cameron Smith Needs Open-Heart Surgery After Positive COVID-19 Test.
Yea, it doesn't cause any problems; it's just like the flu. This is the kind of crap the college AD's don't want to deal with, as in liability for long term heath issues.
Why can't we just surround the fields with grocery shelves to stave off the virus?
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.
If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare. Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.
Difference with on campus classes is that almost all major universities provide a virtual only option so essentially 100% of students can not show up and the show goes on. Can’t have football with zero players.If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.
If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare. Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.
absolutely.
and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.
Difference with on campus classes is that almost all major universities provide a virtual only option so essentially 100% of students can not show up and the show goes on. Can’t have football with zero players.If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.
If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare. Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.
absolutely.
and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.
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If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.
If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare. Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.
absolutely.
and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.
If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare. Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.
If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare. Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.
I think they know they can’t handle football under strident healthcare oversight. They already had a process breakdown at Indiana. They had a kid test negative multiple times, then test positive, get pretty sick & now he has possible heart issues with abnormal blood tests showing heart issues. That they’ve already had a process failure with a potentially major impact keeps getting left out of the Big10 conversation.
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370LOL did they just conveniently forget that like half the ACC schools are in blue states?
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.
It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.
That's my general feeling about Sasse's letter. Do you want football? Hell yeah, do you need it? Um, no. If you need it you got some issues to work through
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!
If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!
If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two
under no circumstances do we want mizzou back
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.
That's my general feeling about Sasse's letter. Do you want football? Hell yeah, do you need it? Um, no. If you need it you got some issues to work through
the majority of his voters have a lot of issues to work through
It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”
Ok, so you're arguing with a wall (something anyone that converses with you can relate to)It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
I'm not the dimwit incapable of understanding the primary reason (excuse) the UP's are using to cancel the season.
Ok, so you're arguing with a wall (something anyone that converses with you can relate to)It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
I'm not the dimwit incapable of understanding the primary reason (excuse) the UP's are using to cancel the season.
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”
They all get tested multiple time a week. They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”
They all get tested multiple time a week. They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.
And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”
They all get tested multiple time a week. They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.
And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.
If they have absolutely no travel protocol and if the other team isn't practicing any type of protocol then you have a point.
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”
They all get tested multiple time a week. They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.
And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.
If they have absolutely no travel protocol and if the other team isn't practicing any type of protocol then you have a point.
too bad our country didn't protocol months ago, sounds like they really work
athletes give up their right to not protocol the day they sign that scholarship offer, i made no such concession and have a god given american right to party balls yoloIt's important to note that while protocol allows me the right to go to bars, under no rough ridin' circumstances is Skyler Thompson allowed in aggieville
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pounce
If we were to gain Nubs and Iowa... 2020 would turn into the best year ever.Think I have to disagree with this one
If we were to gain Nubs and Iowa... 2020 would turn into the best year ever.Think I have to disagree with this one
Come on. Look at this guy:And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!
If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two
under no circumstances do we want mizzou back
no i want colorado back too. bring everyone back and tell weirdos WVU and TCU to amscray.
Yeah that's fine.no i want colorado back too. bring everyone back and tell weirdos WVU and TCU to amscray.
and baylor
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pouncescrew em. i hope their season is cancelled and everyone else gets to play. that might be the best season in the history of college fb
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pouncescrew em. i hope their season is cancelled and everyone else gets to play. that might be the best season in the history of college fb
Our top doctors told us not to wear masks.and your point is? you know things change over time right? how did the lockdown cause more infections?
Our politicians locked everyone up in their houses and only made it worse. Initially, the mayor of our largest city told people to get out and party.
Remember all the Neb fans on ksufans/early goEMAW? What a glorious time on the internet. Let's do it again.
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
I’m behind thisI agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
Listening to Powl Powl Powl on the way back from a socially distanced mask wearing appointment (traveling on the jam packed with Northerners I-65 corridor, with their RV's, trailers, bicycles, tow racks, fishing rods lashed to the roof, and 8 kids all zonked out piled 2 deep in their gas guzzling American made SUV's).
The SEC has invested a crap ton of $ into playing football this year. Sankey is going to make any rash decisions.
To cRusty's point, it was brought up several times about if they're going to keep kids on campus they may as well play the games, and it was also pointed out that many of the student-athletes would be better off staying under the athletic department healthcare umbrella.
Listening to Powl Powl Powl on the way back from a socially distanced mask wearing appointment (traveling on the jam packed with Northerners I-65 corridor, with their RV's, trailers, bicycles, tow racks, fishing rods lashed to the roof, and 8 kids all zonked out piled 2 deep in their gas guzzling American made SUV's).
The SEC has invested a crap ton of $ into playing football this year. Sankey is going to make any rash decisions.
To cRusty's point, it was brought up several times about if they're going to keep kids on campus they may as well play the games, and it was also pointed out that many of the student-athletes would be better off staying under the athletic department healthcare umbrella.
what are the top state plates you see coming down that way? I would love to see one of those vacation maps with where different regions go it would be a great addition to the maps thread.
I’m behind thisI agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
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https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!
If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two
He definitely has issues.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1292847141422018562
I'm fine with taking Mizzou back but eff Colorado.
I’m behind thisI agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
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Oh none takenhttps://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370
Stupid. No offense of course.
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies? Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech. Am I wrong? :dunno:
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies? Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech. Am I wrong? :dunno:
UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.
Virginia is blue.Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies? Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech. Am I wrong? :dunno:
UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.
Doh, forgot UVA. Yeah, so every one of those is a "red" state in SD/MIR's discussed map above then.
https://twitter.com/lukezim/status/1292851069761060864
Kinda Pit’y but also kinda LOL, so I’m leaving it.
I’m behind thisI agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
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They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.
Virginia is blue.Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies? Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech. Am I wrong? :dunno:
UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.
Doh, forgot UVA. Yeah, so every one of those is a "red" state in SD/MIR's discussed map above then.
Of the state's eleven seats in the House of Representatives, Democrats hold seven and Republicans hold four. The state is widely considered blue-leaning, a trend which moves parallel with the growth of the Washington D.C. and Richmond suburbs.
I’m behind thisI agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
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They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.
Interesting. So how many TCU athletes have been accused of murdering or raping other people? How many TCU coaches have been fired for covering up scandals? How many TCU AD's and presidents have been removed from their positions after overseeing administrations that clearly covered up criminal behavior?
I’m behind thisI agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here. However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out." Will NEVER happen. Ever.
counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
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They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.
Interesting. So how many TCU athletes have been accused of murdering or raping other people? How many TCU coaches have been fired for covering up scandals? How many TCU AD's and presidents have been removed from their positions after overseeing administrations that clearly covered up criminal behavior?
https://www.facebook.com/kstatesports/videos/348641219506133/
Klieman at the podium right now.
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
:billdance:https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
if the SEC is relying on the B12 the B12 should demand money
I say we demand SEC Championship titles for all of the good teams in the conference (KSU, Texas, OU).https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
if the SEC is relying on the B12 the B12 should demand money
SEC wants our WAP
https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1293280165603287047?s=21
Who is in the cancel group??
I can see KSU, Texas, ISU and WVU in the let’s go camp. Where is everyone else?
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.honestly that seems like the best idea. there's really no reason i can think of to cancel before you absolutely have to.
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.
https://twitter.com/DavezONAIR/status/1293288978846711808
LOLhttps://twitter.com/DavezONAIR/status/1293288978846711808
The best part is that he just finished lecturing about events you can't control and responding positively.
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.
Klieman said in his press conference that gen. Myers wants to play. So, I am going to assume that is true.
Great idea for COVID but you can't be playing football games in this country in July and August. That's more dangerous than coronavirus.
eff Nebraska, keep them flopping like fish on hot concrete. Some of y'all are the type to let your crazy ex that you had pancake sex with back into your life then she microwaves your cat.let NEB die a slow death. dont do them any favors.
I think it’s pretty clear OU is in the no go / on the fence group. If Texas and OU both want to play football, we’re playing football. Plus they sent their players home, stating they could use a break since they won’t be playing on August 29th. Sadly, this is just another kick the can down the road move.
Really, if they want to play we should start as soon as possible. Everyone is healthy now. Why wait until a month from now? Baseball is played a solid month after school ends. We should have started football a month early and created a temporary bubble without the rest of the students on campus Could have played a third of the schedule.
Ugghhh....just rambling. Feel numb. This sucks. 😕
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Riley was against starting workouts in June. Then he publicly stated he thought spring football was very "doable". OU has been less than enthusiastic from the outset. Maybe he's just trying to get several extra months of practice for his freshman QB
eff Nebraska, keep them flopping like fish on hot concrete. Some of y'all are the type to let your crazy ex that you had passionate sex with back into your life then she microwaves your cat.
Bunch a Riley Gates mfers in here. Definitely take Nebraska back. They would be the one coming back, hat in hand and egg on face, not the Big 12.
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Have I missed why the SEC and ACC need the Big 12 to stay in?
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eff it, let's do this crap!
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1293571151046868992
eff it, let's do this crap!
https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1293571151046868992
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!
https://twitter.com/kyleumlang/status/1293371035841110021281 330 8004
That tweet made me listen to it on Spotify. I don't think I'd heard it in like ten years.https://twitter.com/kyleumlang/status/1293371035841110021281 330 8004
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864
I don't get it.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864
I don't get it.
The gif in reply to Kyle's tweet is a famous scene from The Wolf of Wall Street where Leonardo Dicaprio's character is banned from his company by to feds for doing shady stuff. He stands up in front of all his traders and declares that "I'm not rough ridin' leaving" and they all celebrate and go wild.
In this recreation of that famous scene Texas is declaring that they are not leaving fall football and the ACC and SEC go crazy celebrating because if Texas/Big12 decided to cancel the fall season they probably would have had to cancel as well.
It would be better if instead of the Texas logo they had the big 12 logo.
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!
I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game. They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling. He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard. I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening.
:ROFL:
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!
I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game. They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling. He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard. I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening.
:ROFL:
not to notpick but it was 12/1/12, I know this because it happened on my birthday :cool:
It was also an insanely warm game for a night in december. Upper 30s IIRC
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864
I don't get it.
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!
I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game. They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling. He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard. I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening.
:ROFL:
not to notpick but it was 12/1/12, I know this because it happened on my birthday :cool:
It was also an insanely warm game for a night in december. Upper 30s IIRC
Ya, it was 12/1/12, but the point was they can't stand the cold weather. They also said the same thing about a Nebraska game that had a light snow falling with a light breeze.
I think we won that oneWe did!
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes throughSys said that wouldn't be a big deal because you still have the lab bottlenecks
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1294687795655606273
Is this the thing sys posted about last week that I crap on?No, that one (or those) supposedly offered at-home results
Damn! Oh well. Nice try everyone. Back to the drawing board I guess.lmao at the teams that called it if this comes throughSys said that wouldn't be a big deal because you still have the lab bottlenecks
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1294687795655606273
Sys said that wouldn't be a big deal because you still have the lab bottlenecks
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through
Yes, this may be greatest part ever.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
personally, i think that not killing old people should be motivation enough to comply with public health guidelines, but that's just me.The students are complying with local regulations. The city could shut down bars and KSU could shift to 100% online if they cared about old people dying.
yes, manhattan and kansas should take those actions, but them not doing so does not render people living in those jurisdictions incapable of behaving ethically on their own.They're also following the CDC guidelines as far as I can tell. So when basically every level of government authority is telling them that going to bars is safe, I'm not sure how they know enough to determine that their behavior is unethical.
every level of government is not telling them that it is safe to socialize in crowded bars. that's absolutely ridiculous, michigancat.By allowing bars to open, government officials are absolutely saying it's safe. Patrons should be able to trust the health department to create and enforce covid guidelines that ensure the safety of the community, just like they do with things like kitchen sanitation.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
Yeah her post was interesting.https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
By allowing bars to open, government officials are absolutely saying it's safe. Patrons should be able to trust the health department to create and enforce covid guidelines that ensure the safety of the community, just like they do with things like kitchen sanitation.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.
What does time have to do with anything? Amount of people?
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.
What does time have to do with anything? Amount of people?
Yes, as more people show up we need more room for them to spread out. I was in Breckenridge, CO a few weeks ago and they shut down the main street in their downtown area so restaurants and other business could operate outside. It seemed to work well.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.
What does time have to do with anything? Amount of people?
anyone actually surprised by this?Does it count if I'm surprised people are surprised?
anyone actually surprised by this?
anyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
anyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
We saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I don’t think it’s too much to ask of adults that are in college to realize the situation we are all in. yes more leadership at the government level would help but let’s not absolve responsibility because “they’re kids”.if the bars weren't open it wouldn't really matter. they'd find a way
We saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars
If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.
Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.
What does time have to do with anything? Amount of people?
Have you never been to Aggieville? Do you not realize most of the businesses there aren't bars that rely on business from people other than 21 year olds trying to get laid?
Some universities are already battling coronavirus outbreaks, including the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill — where four viral clusters have emerged one week after in-person classes started — and Oklahoma State University, where a single sorority house has 23 confirmed cases.
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At Auburn University, wide receiver Anthony Schwartz tweeted Saturday that he had “seen crowds of people and none of them are wearing masks.” Chris Owens, a center at the University of Alabama, tweeted a photo on Sunday afternoon of a crowd of students with barely any face coverings in sight, asking: “How about we social distance and have more than a literal handful of people wear a mask? Is that too much to ask Tuscaloosa?”
YeahQuoteSome universities are already battling coronavirus outbreaks, including the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill — where four viral clusters have emerged one week after in-person classes started — and Oklahoma State University, where a single sorority house has 23 confirmed cases.
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At Auburn University, wide receiver Anthony Schwartz tweeted Saturday that he had “seen crowds of people and none of them are wearing masks.” Chris Owens, a center at the University of Alabama, tweeted a photo on Sunday afternoon of a crowd of students with barely any face coverings in sight, asking: “How about we social distance and have more than a literal handful of people wear a mask? Is that too much to ask Tuscaloosa?”
https://twitter.com/chriscmooney/status/1295332142822686720
Re: SturgisWe saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
Looks like Fedor drank all of his optimism juice this morning.I am in a bubble, completely unaffected by the 'rona w/ no one I know getting it, so it comes pretty easy I guess.
https://twitter.com/TarheelSoup/status/1295337202495426560:ROFL:
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch
Re: SturgisWe saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead? This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties. The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139. Today the total active cases are 135, net -4. I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far.
I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well. Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered. There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine. It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally. Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.
Um...what? I'm admittedly stereotyping here but I would bet that a good portion of the attendees at Sturgis are tobacco users and/or abuse alcohol.I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally. Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.
The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl. Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat. My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus. Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus. And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals. The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....
There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.
Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....
There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.
Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
Why aren't they being quarantined in Manhattan? I thought the university was using the Kramer complex for that?
And one week into the semester UNC is already going to all online classes.
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....
There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.
Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
What's the opposite of a coronabro?
What's the opposite of a coronabro?
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....Up to 9 cases now!
There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.
Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....Up to 9 cases now!
There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.
Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
According to my parents neighbor his daughters sorority has 20+ cases.
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch
Mask all the time unless drinking = boozed up 25% full stadium
Um...what? I'm admittedly stereotyping here but I would bet that a good portion of the attendees at Sturgis are tobacco users and/or abuse alcohol.I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally. Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.
The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl. Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat. My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus. Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus. And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals. The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
Um...what? I'm admittedly stereotyping here but I would bet that a good portion of the attendees at Sturgis are tobacco users and/or abuse alcohol.I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally. Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.
The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl. Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat. My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus. Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus. And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals. The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
and obese and horrible nutrition
Not talking about bicycles. :ROFL:Bikers!!! :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :bang:
This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks
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This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks
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The Minnesota-based cardiologist leads the Windland Smith Rice Sudden Death Genomics Lab which studies, among other things, sudden death in young athletes. He explained to the Big 12?s leaders that a new myocarditis study in the Journal of American Medical Association that sparked panic across college sports didn’t have the “bandwidth” to be transferable in a useful way. The study, conducted in Germany and composed of middle-aged adults, found that 78 percent of the 100 participants had some cardiac abnormality. Ackerman said it’d be a “scientific foul” to infer that those findings are relevant for 18 to 24-year old athletes.
"You cannot make that leap," Ackerman exclaimed.
Ackerman pushed for the Big 12 to consider additional heart-related protocols to mitigate any possible risks, with the conference adopting plans to test athletes who had the coronavirus with an EKG, cardiac MRI, echocardiogram and troponin blood test. He stressed that any player who contracts COVID-19 needs to have a “squeaky clean cardiac evaluation” before getting the go-ahead to return to play. He cautioned them to consider possible mental health ramifications of canceling a season, referencing past experiences with athletes who suffered after being medically disqualified for heart issues.
Citing his own experience in dealing with non-zero risk situations with patients every day, he provided a path forward for college conferences hoping to play college football this fall.
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids. With the NBA, sure that works. With the NFL, we'll see. I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids. I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous. The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO. It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.
I am sorry to report that young people can't stay away from each other.If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids. With the NBA, sure that works. With the NFL, we'll see. I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids. I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous. The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO. It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.
This is a good comment, thank you pete.
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids. With the NBA, sure that works. With the NFL, we'll see. I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids. I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous. The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO. It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids. With the NBA, sure that works. With the NFL, we'll see. I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids. I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous. The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO. It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.
I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids. With the NBA, sure that works. With the NFL, we'll see. I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids. I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous. The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO. It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.
I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.
Yes. I think player health was pitched by people who knew sports had to be canceled in order to try to get support from weirdos who hate masks, distancing, etc. That track ended up making some forget the exponentially more important reasons to not play a sport that has caravans of people smashing into each other, mingling with those in the smash city and then going to another city to do it again.
So now you have a bunch of myocarditis debates that are irrelevant.
https://twitter.com/espncfb/status/1296496728250765318
https://twitter.com/reddirtsport/status/1296468618776125441?s=21
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1296800496217477120
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.
It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.
The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.
It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.
The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.
No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.
I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.
Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.
It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.
The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.
No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.
I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.
Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.
I know exactly how Anthony Bates died.
How do you know those schools weren't looking for that already?
Auburn doc was on the radio 2 weeks ago, he wrote a whole paper on Myocarditis 10 years ago, he said it can be caused by a number of things and they screen everybody at Auburn who has had a bad cold or the flu.
If the demand is going to be that medical staffs have to catch all possible conditions and all possible outcomes, then we should just shut down sports now, permanently.
Sad to see the mommies and daddies of these teenagers now doing the protesting for the little babies.
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1297202281964855300
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How much non TV revenue does KSU athletics stand to lose if no football gets played?
https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1296952187797544960100% reduction?!?
https://twitter.com/andywittry/status/1296955720995409920
Well, here I go. Iceberg dead ahead and I am going to steer straight into it. I generally try to avoid the dark and dangerous side of social media as it relates to political or social issues. At the end of the day, my voice is just another in a jungle of voices that may or may not agree with me. Frankly, it would be exceedingly rare for me to have an opinion, and I have many, that someone else has not already expressed on social media.
That being said, the decision that USD 259 made last night to suspend fall sports and in-school learning for the fall semester has me asking questions that I simply do not find other people asking. But wait, let me check that, in the last 12 hours I have had discussions with several people who do have the same questions I have. Therein lies my first contact with the iceberg and one of the most confusing and frustrating aspects of the 259 decision. Why does it seem that the majority opinion is the quietest voice and the minority opinion is the loudest voice and seems to have all the power? I am not a scientific pollster but I talk to a lot, and I mean a lot, of people and I simply cannot find a single voice that agrees with the decision outside of some 259 administration and some 259 educators. However, they seem to dominate the conversation and the decision-making process. Why is that?
As I continue to run down the jagged edge of the iceberg my next question is, “What the heck happened to common sense and logical thinking? The Corona virus sucks. It sucks because it can take the lives of those we love, it sucks because it can make us sick, it sucks because it has disrupted our way of life and livelihood and it sucks because we don’t really know anything about it or how to contain it. It also sucks because everyone interprets the numbers in a different way and presents those numbers in the way that best aligns with their own bias. I am no epidemiologist, but I can look at real numbers and make common sense and logical conclusions based on what those numbers tell me. What the virus numbers unquestionably tell me is that the virus is extremely dangerous for the elderly and people with pre-existing health conditions. The numbers also tell me that people who are younger and in reasonably good health are not likely to be hospitalized, or God forbid, pass away. Not that much different than a strong seasonal strain of the flu. So with that common sense and logic in mind, does it make any sense for grownups to make decisions that will negatively affect our children’s entire lifetime based on not using common sense and logic but rather personal or group narrative and bias on how the numbers are interpreted? It seems to me decisions are being made under the grandiose proposition that by shutting down we are saving lives or keeping kids and grownups safe. Safe from what? The numbers simply do not support that proposition. The list of, “You are more likely to die from X than the Corona virus” is an awfully long one and it certainly seems that not much is being done to address those other factors.
Not so long ago, common sense and logic among grownups also meant that we take care of our children. That we make decisions based on what is best for them not us. Given the realities, common sense and logic of the Corona virus numbers, are we grownups really making the best decision for our kids or for us? Last night on a local news channel a teacher said something along the lines of, “I am no spring chicken. I am older and close to retirement and teachers like myself need to be kept safe.” I agree. But, does keeping you safe mean we have to ruin the lives of our younger population by making them anti-social, by making them manage a terribly inefficient learning environment, by taking away the activities that will help define who they are as adults and by taking away all the opportunities that were afforded us grownups as children? If I had an opportunity to talk to that teacher, my response to her would be, “I totally understand your fear and concern about the potential effects of the Corona virus on your personal situation. However, is it reasonable to make an entire section of the population change their behavior to accommodate your fears? Wouldn’t it be more prudent for you take personal responsibility and make decisions about your health based on those fears? Maybe you don’t teach during the virus flight? Maybe you go above and beyond to take care of yourself? What I am ultimately trying to say here is that if everyone would manage the Corona virus as a personal health initiative instead of relying on public health initiatives, we would all be better off. Yes, it sucks to be elderly and have pre-existing health issues that make the Corona virus much more dangerous for you than the average high school student but that is a problem you need to manage and not take away an extremely important, life defining time of a high school kid. In defense of teachers and harking back to my previous comment on the power of the minority voice, most teachers are overwhelmingly in favor of going back to class and coaches are overwhelmingly in favor of getting back on the field. We have lost sight of the concept of the greater good.
Now that I have cleared the iceberg and the boat is sinking, I will add a couple more comments before I go down with my ship. First, regarding my opinion on an underlying issue that is likely driving the decisions around the management of the virus, one word, “Litigation”. I believe the fear of the legal action that administrators may have to deal with associated with “staying open” is weighing heavily on final decisions. Look no future than the process by which 259 came to last night’s decision. “Local coaches and players-let’s play and go to school on time. KSHSAA-let’s play and here is a good plan of action. Governor-let’s play but start late. Board of Regents-let’s have the districts decide. USD 259-let’s play. USD 259-let’s not play.” Does that process not have legal influence written all over it?
Second word, Media. Folks, there is simply no unbiased media source on the planet anymore. They all have agendas, they all have alliances, they all have their own narrative and they are all corporately owned and those corporations have their own agendas-that is why they own media! They are all obsessed with negative content because it breeds fear and they hope fear breeds an audience. I have not seen one mainstream media outlet accurately define the Corona virus numbers. Not one.
So, I am now underwater. I suppose I should try to make my last comment a real dozy! Here we go! Our country is known as land of the free and home of the chiefs. We may want to look in the mirror because our management of Covid has been neither.
Mike Cooper
Over the long haul, the impact of not playing will be far greater than the impact of playing with various restrictions in place.
IMO, the expansion/dawn of the academy system across all sports is here, and the death of college athletics as we know it has begun.
The academy system(s) will mean far fewer opportunities in the area of athletic endeavors.
Ultimately, this will trickle down even farther into high school sports. Where some sports are considered an afterthought relative to travel teams/club outside of school programs that exist now. In high school they'll be a trickle up throughout the whole of the sports hierarchy. This could breed an environment that we already have with certain country club sports at the youth level. Where only the moneyed thrive.
"VYPE Kansas" is big madQuoteWell, here I go. Iceberg dead ahead and I am going to steer straight into it. I generally try to avoid the dark and dangerous side of social media as it relates to political or social issues. At the end of the day, my voice is just another in a jungle of voices that may or may not agree with me. Frankly, it would be exceedingly rare for me to have an opinion, and I have many, that someone else has not already expressed on social media.
That being said, the decision that USD 259 made last night to suspend fall sports and in-school learning for the fall semester has me asking questions that I simply do not find other people asking. But wait, let me check that, in the last 12 hours I have had discussions with several people who do have the same questions I have. Therein lies my first contact with the iceberg and one of the most confusing and frustrating aspects of the 259 decision. Why does it seem that the majority opinion is the quietest voice and the minority opinion is the loudest voice and seems to have all the power? I am not a scientific pollster but I talk to a lot, and I mean a lot, of people and I simply cannot find a single voice that agrees with the decision outside of some 259 administration and some 259 educators. However, they seem to dominate the conversation and the decision-making process. Why is that?
As I continue to run down the jagged edge of the iceberg my next question is, “What the heck happened to common sense and logical thinking? The Corona virus sucks. It sucks because it can take the lives of those we love, it sucks because it can make us sick, it sucks because it has disrupted our way of life and livelihood and it sucks because we don’t really know anything about it or how to contain it. It also sucks because everyone interprets the numbers in a different way and presents those numbers in the way that best aligns with their own bias. I am no epidemiologist, but I can look at real numbers and make common sense and logical conclusions based on what those numbers tell me. What the virus numbers unquestionably tell me is that the virus is extremely dangerous for the elderly and people with pre-existing health conditions. The numbers also tell me that people who are younger and in reasonably good health are not likely to be hospitalized, or God forbid, pass away. Not that much different than a strong seasonal strain of the flu. So with that common sense and logic in mind, does it make any sense for grownups to make decisions that will negatively affect our children’s entire lifetime based on not using common sense and logic but rather personal or group narrative and bias on how the numbers are interpreted? It seems to me decisions are being made under the grandiose proposition that by shutting down we are saving lives or keeping kids and grownups safe. Safe from what? The numbers simply do not support that proposition. The list of, “You are more likely to die from X than the Corona virus” is an awfully long one and it certainly seems that not much is being done to address those other factors.
Not so long ago, common sense and logic among grownups also meant that we take care of our children. That we make decisions based on what is best for them not us. Given the realities, common sense and logic of the Corona virus numbers, are we grownups really making the best decision for our kids or for us? Last night on a local news channel a teacher said something along the lines of, “I am no spring chicken. I am older and close to retirement and teachers like myself need to be kept safe.” I agree. But, does keeping you safe mean we have to ruin the lives of our younger population by making them anti-social, by making them manage a terribly inefficient learning environment, by taking away the activities that will help define who they are as adults and by taking away all the opportunities that were afforded us grownups as children? If I had an opportunity to talk to that teacher, my response to her would be, “I totally understand your fear and concern about the potential effects of the Corona virus on your personal situation. However, is it reasonable to make an entire section of the population change their behavior to accommodate your fears? Wouldn’t it be more prudent for you take personal responsibility and make decisions about your health based on those fears? Maybe you don’t teach during the virus flight? Maybe you go above and beyond to take care of yourself? What I am ultimately trying to say here is that if everyone would manage the Corona virus as a personal health initiative instead of relying on public health initiatives, we would all be better off. Yes, it sucks to be elderly and have pre-existing health issues that make the Corona virus much more dangerous for you than the average high school student but that is a problem you need to manage and not take away an extremely important, life defining time of a high school kid. In defense of teachers and harking back to my previous comment on the power of the minority voice, most teachers are overwhelmingly in favor of going back to class and coaches are overwhelmingly in favor of getting back on the field. We have lost sight of the concept of the greater good.
Now that I have cleared the iceberg and the boat is sinking, I will add a couple more comments before I go down with my ship. First, regarding my opinion on an underlying issue that is likely driving the decisions around the management of the virus, one word, “Litigation”. I believe the fear of the legal action that administrators may have to deal with associated with “staying open” is weighing heavily on final decisions. Look no future than the process by which 259 came to last night’s decision. “Local coaches and players-let’s play and go to school on time. KSHSAA-let’s play and here is a good plan of action. Governor-let’s play but start late. Board of Regents-let’s have the districts decide. USD 259-let’s play. USD 259-let’s not play.” Does that process not have legal influence written all over it?
Second word, Media. Folks, there is simply no unbiased media source on the planet anymore. They all have agendas, they all have alliances, they all have their own narrative and they are all corporately owned and those corporations have their own agendas-that is why they own media! They are all obsessed with negative content because it breeds fear and they hope fear breeds an audience. I have not seen one mainstream media outlet accurately define the Corona virus numbers. Not one.
So, I am now underwater. I suppose I should try to make my last comment a real dozy! Here we go! Our country is known as land of the free and home of the chiefs. We may want to look in the mirror because our management of Covid has been neither.
Mike Cooper
Of all the things we can do for kids with barriers, providing organized sports opportunities for them, is way way way down that list. Their parents aren't the ones picketing offices and posting addresses of school boards. These parents are trying to figure out how to manage distance learning while working their low paying job, if they haven't lost it already and got evicted.
We all love sports, obviously, but RATM is 100% correct that as a society we place way too much value on sports, especially if we're looking for them to solve societies ills.
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.
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The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.
Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.
No one here caused any of that.I honestly know you hate me and that’s cool, but I’m nowhere near the monster you want me to be, this is on you. You think I’m Dax level.
Excuse after excuse with you for your behavior.
MIR started this, dipshit:WTF wackyThe Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.
Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.
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Mich, other than being mid 40’s here, what did I do wrong?You're reaching for ways to be a victim and it tends to happen in an especially negative way when you're drinking. You also seem to be confuzzled by how the message board works
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MIR started this, dipshit:The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.
Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.
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MIR started this, dipshit:What in the world did MIR “start” there? Last Friday, no less.The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.
Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.
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Sturgis area as of 8-24 had 217 active cases and Riley County had 138, pretty significant increases in terms of percentage but maybe not in terms of population. :dunno:Re: SturgisWe saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead? This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties. The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139. Today the total active cases are 135, net -4. I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far.
I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well. Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered. There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine. It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
Sturgis area as of 8-24 had 217 active cases and Riley County had 138, pretty significant increases in terms of percentage but maybe not in terms of population. :dunno:Re: SturgisWe saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead? This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties. The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139. Today the total active cases are 135, net -4. I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far.
I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well. Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered. There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine. It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.
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I'm in the camp that really doesn't care if the high school athletes have to sit out a season. It might even be a good thing overall. Sports are overemphasized in the US.
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.
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Sports are great for kids. Every other after school activity is also great for kids. These activities are either safe or unsafe, and I think you would be very hard pressed to find anything less safe than football. If any other activity is cancelled, then football should also be cancelled. It should be all or none.
You’re correct. One sport is the livelihood of the University, it’s employees, the community that surrounds it, etc. The other sports just exist. Thanks for coming to my TED talk about how this works.
You know this though.
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This is where it’s muddied up. We’ve came a long ways with these athletes since back in the day. D1 football/basketball schools now give a free ride, food, stipend, living, books, and now likeliness, etc. How do you value a special teamer for K-State and what they get paid after this front?! That looks like a 500K contract to me to go to school and be scene on TV. Opt out if you want and keep your status:You’re correct. One sport is the livelihood of the University, it’s employees, the community that surrounds it, etc. The other sports just exist. Thanks for coming to my TED talk about how this works.
You know this though.
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Yeah, I do know that. The point is, football isn't any safer than soccer. Not allowing soccer while allowing football completely eliminates almost every argument that people aren't honest about playing have.
Let them play because they need/want it is gone
Let them play because the risk isn't substantial is gone
What you're left with is
Let them play because we need the money.
rough ridin' PAY THEM THEN!
So maybe I missed it, but will the Pac 12 and Big Ten, and a few other conferences/teams forgoing at least the fall, shouldn't that mean that pretty much every game is on FS1, ESPN/ESPN2, ABC, etc? I can't imagine there being too many games to not show any of them on any of the major networks.
“because COVID pandemic”
Sucks that this thing snuck up on them right as the season is about to start.
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.
shocking, how could this happen?
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.
shocking, how could this happen?
because COVID pandemic.
Lmao dax. We haven’t even started the season and the football team has already had two outbreaks, that is pathetic.Ya and? You’re a front runner for the college football playoffs when you don’t need to sideline any important players throughout the season
Not for you guys, maybe next year if you're lucky. :ROFL:
you guys i'm seriously jealous asf of these north dakota fans. its been 6 years since that (regular season) game and they are still rock hard about it. amazing.
It's week 0 pappy, Central Arkansas plays someone on ESPN at 8 tonight.NOTWITHSTANDING—I intend to submit a formal application to the mods to change the title of this thread after kickoff tonight.
Yeah, someone needs to give @stevedave a good noogie.It's week 0 pappy, Central Arkansas plays someone on ESPN at 8 tonight.NOTWITHSTANDING—I intend to submit a formal application to the mods to change the title of this thread after kickoff tonight.
you guys i'm seriously jealous asf of these north dakota fans. its been 6 years since that (regular season) game and they are still rock hard about it. amazing.
7 years ago.. and no big deal. NDSU beat #13 Iowa 4 years later so yaaawwwnn.
Iowa only stole 1 of our coaches, KSU stole 6
https://kcci.com/article/isu-to-allow-25k-fans-inside-stadium-at-football-opener
Flood Aggie announces they are allowing 25,000! The coronavirus numbers in Iowa and Story County are crazy, the governor has even shut down bars. Jamie Pollard and #cyclONEnation already has the "leading the Big 12" in attendance press releases warmed up.
The AL schools have a high rate right now because every AL college student was tested just prior to the start of school and there's a robust program of testing in place at the college level in conjunction with UAB-Med.
5-24 age group survival rate in AL: 99.8%
Quarantine dorms on campuses.
UAB infection rate, less than 1%
The AL schools have a high rate right now because every AL college student was tested just prior to the start of school and there's a robust program of testing in place at the college level in conjunction with UAB-Med.
5-24 age group survival rate in AL: 99.8%
Quarantine dorms on campuses.
UAB infection rate, less than 1%
They should stop testing so much.
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1300857298819207168
I hope I don't regret posting this in here instead of the pit.
LOL, it has been a bit of a crap show the past week. SA has 606 active and Riley Co. 435. Biker rally has more than quadrupled cases in two weeks, KSU has almost 7x.Sturgis area as of 8-24 had 217 active cases and Riley County had 138, pretty significant increases in terms of percentage but maybe not in terms of population. :dunno:Re: SturgisWe saw Sturgis, tooanyone actually surprised by this?
There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead? This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties. The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139. Today the total active cases are 135, net -4. I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far.
I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well. Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered. There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine. It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1300857298819207168
I hope I don't regret posting this in here instead of the pit.
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.
I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.
I agree that it would be him taking the fall for the votes of the Universities. I still think parents/fans will want a scapegoat. I think he’ll be gone at the end of the season regardless of any outcomes.Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.
I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.
I've avoided talking about what I think about Kevin Warren being the scapegoat for this, I'll just say that if he loses his job, it will be very transparent for some of us. Whenever a conference or a league does something unpopular, we always hear about the commissioner doing the bidding for the owners or presidents/chancellors. We know, we always knew the Big Ten took a vote. Unlike what has become modus operandi in the Pac 12, no UP has called Warren out. Knowing all of this, Warren has been made to be everything from moronic to duplicitous by fans, media, and players parents and there are all kinds of rumors of him losing his job. It would be curious if not obvious. Luckily the UPs who hired him to take unpopular stances will stick with him.
I am only against the big 10 having football because of the LOL's it'll bring when we're playing and Nubs is not.it would be glorious. im still worried that this is so important to nebraska that they will somehow find a way to turn this into a positive for them before its all said and done
I agree that it would be him taking the fall for the votes of the Universities. I still think parents/fans will want a scapegoat. I think he’ll be gone at the end of the season regardless of any outcomes.Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.
I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.
I've avoided talking about what I think about Kevin Warren being the scapegoat for this, I'll just say that if he loses his job, it will be very transparent for some of us. Whenever a conference or a league does something unpopular, we always hear about the commissioner doing the bidding for the owners or presidents/chancellors. We know, we always knew the Big Ten took a vote. Unlike what has become modus operandi in the Pac 12, no UP has called Warren out. Knowing all of this, Warren has been made to be everything from moronic to duplicitous by fans, media, and players parents and there are all kinds of rumors of him losing his job. It would be curious if not obvious. Luckily the UPs who hired him to take unpopular stances will stick with him.
How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?is this a serious question?
come on, dude
The NCAA was dissatisfied with its Johnson County, Kansas suburban location, noting that its location on the south edges of the Kansas City suburbs was more than 40 minutes from Kansas City International Airport. They also noted that the suburban location was not drawing visitors to its new visitors' centre.[36]
In 1997, it asked for bids for a new headquarters. Various cities competed for a new headquarters with the two finalists being Kansas City and Indianapolis. Kansas City proposed to relocate the NCAA back downtown near the Crown Center complex and would locate the visitors' centre in Union Station. However Kansas City's main sports venue Kemper Arena was nearly 30 years old.[36] Indianapolis argued that it was in fact more central than Kansas City in that two-thirds of the members are east of the Mississippi River.[36] The 50,000-seat RCA Dome far eclipsed the 17,000-seat Kemper Arena. In 1999, the NCAA moved its 300-member staff to its new headquarters in the White River State Park in a four-story 140,000-square-foot (13,000 m2) facility on the west edge of downtown Indianapolis, Indiana. Adjacent to the headquarters is the 35,000-square-foot (3,300 m2) NCAA Hall of Champions.[37]
Makes you wander what percentage without a COVID diagnosis have myocarditis.
Makes you wander what percentage without a COVID diagnosis have myocarditis.
Myocarditis is usually caused by a viral infection. A severe case can weaken the heart, which can lead to heart failure, abnormal heartbeat, and sudden death. Symptoms include chest pain, abnormal heartbeat, and shortness of breath.
Yes, anyone who has had severe influenza can have myocarditis. All athlete should be tested for Myocarditis, COVID or not, and not allowed to play if positive.
Random question - Why did the NCAA relocate from KC to Indianapolis? I remember their HQ was around 435 and Metcalf when I was a youngster but don't remember any of the local juicy gossip
Well before I posted this I went to wikipedia and learned this, anyone else have anything to add besides this?QuoteThe NCAA was dissatisfied with its Johnson County, Kansas suburban location, noting that its location on the south edges of the Kansas City suburbs was more than 40 minutes from Kansas City International Airport. They also noted that the suburban location was not drawing visitors to its new visitors' centre.[36]
In 1997, it asked for bids for a new headquarters. Various cities competed for a new headquarters with the two finalists being Kansas City and Indianapolis. Kansas City proposed to relocate the NCAA back downtown near the Crown Center complex and would locate the visitors' centre in Union Station. However Kansas City's main sports venue Kemper Arena was nearly 30 years old.[36] Indianapolis argued that it was in fact more central than Kansas City in that two-thirds of the members are east of the Mississippi River.[36] The 50,000-seat RCA Dome far eclipsed the 17,000-seat Kemper Arena. In 1999, the NCAA moved its 300-member staff to its new headquarters in the White River State Park in a four-story 140,000-square-foot (13,000 m2) facility on the west edge of downtown Indianapolis, Indiana. Adjacent to the headquarters is the 35,000-square-foot (3,300 m2) NCAA Hall of Champions.[37]
Yes, anyone who has had severe influenza can have myocarditis. All athlete should be tested for Myocarditis, COVID or not, and not allowed to play if positive.
I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.They aren't and neither are the athletes at Penn St.
Auburn sports doc affirmed on a show this morning they have checked for myocarditis after every bad cold, flu, viral infection or other illnesses for over a decade. On top of prescreening prior to participation across the board.I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.They aren't and neither are the athletes at Penn St.
Best I can find is that it was present in 36.5 out of every 100,000 (so like 0.0365% Or do I need another zero?). So yeah, I don’t think 1/3 of the population (much less 1/3 of the college athlete population) is normally just walking around with it unless I’m reading this wrong (definitely a possibility)Yeah I think that is saying the DCM prevalence is 36.5/100k, and that myocarditis is present in 10-50% of those cases
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Auburn sports doc affirmed on a show this morning they have checked for myocarditis after every bad cold, flu, viral infection or other illnesses for over a decade. On top of prescreening prior to participation across the board.I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.They aren't and neither are the athletes at Penn St.
Very disappointed in the misrepresentations and outright falsehoods being propagated.
It has been estimated that 200,000 competitive asymptomatic athletes would need to be screened to potentially identify one athlete who would die as a result of competition.
How close do you have to get to someone for contact tracing purposes? I would’ve guessed that when one person in a locker room gets it then all the others would count as contacts?
6 more days!
Do we know who is out for covid?
Change the thread title!
I'm not counting what is happening this year as a legit season. (Unless we are really good.)
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2020/9/7/k-states-soccer-2020-season-opener-postponed.aspx
got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works?What is confusing you
transferring the tickets to my name, they did not send out physical tickets this year to my knowledge.got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works?What is confusing you
transferring the tickets to my name, they did not send out physical tickets this year to my knowledge.got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works?What is confusing you
This video seems both very silly and necessary
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=AK9lBCbUkKo
A fond memory of mine was going down to the cotton bowl with my brothers with no tickets and scalping some 50 ya line tix when it was cold ass balls and the cats beat Tennessee. Can’t imagine scalping nowadays
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259Sad. Also wanted to add that may be the most confusing name for a school I've ever seen.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259
https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP/status/1303508617166032896
Interesting bit of trivia there from brett that Jamain Stephens jr.’s dad is also named Jamain.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259The replies to that tweet :facepalm: my god people are really rough ridin' stupid
KSU Football has slipped to 3rd in Riley County’s outbreak rankings.Duds?
https://themercury.com/news/riley-county-adds-two-new-covid-19-outbreaks-percent-positive-at-32-3/article_3be12a11-992a-5e60-bc00-f701342c5d0e.html
KSU Football has slipped to 3rd in Riley County’s outbreak rankings.Duds?
https://themercury.com/news/riley-county-adds-two-new-covid-19-outbreaks-percent-positive-at-32-3/article_3be12a11-992a-5e60-bc00-f701342c5d0e.html
Lol
https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1304890050988179461
Twitter grumblings that the B10 is back!
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1327245074472853507Yeah now that the SEC is cancelling/postponing so many games it seems inevitable.
Nobody missed them.
Saturday's game against between No. 22 ranked Texas and Kansas has been postponed. The Longhorns and Jayhawks were set to kick off at 2:30 p.m. CT on ESPN2, but those plans have changed due to the Big 12's COVID-19 position threshold requirements.
Why aren't the 49ers relocating to Alameda County?
Why aren't the 49ers relocating to Alameda County?
that's a great question...Might be time/resources required getting the Coliseum ready for football? I don't imagine anyone is employed there now.
Cases are also blowing up in Alameda County and I wouldn't be shocked if there's a similar ban there while they know Arizona won't do crap.
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.
it's all contact sports. They haven't been playing HS sports but SJSU and Stanford were also impacted.
I do know Santa Clara government has a weird relationship with the niners because of stadium disagreements but don't know if that's a county or city thing. I'm pretty sure Santa Clara county was the first place in the country to start shutting down events because of covid so I honestly think it's more of an overly cautious approach from the health department. (Or overly aggressive, depending on your perspective).
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.
it's all contact sports. They haven't been playing HS sports but SJSU and Stanford were also impacted.
I do know Santa Clara government has a weird relationship with the niners because of stadium disagreements but don't know if that's a county or city thing. I'm pretty sure Santa Clara county was the first place in the country to start shutting down events because of covid so I honestly think it's more of an overly cautious approach from the health department. (Or overly aggressive, depending on your perspective).
It's just that a ban on contact sports in one solitary county would have such a small impact on community spread and effects so few people I just don't understand what they're hoping to accomplish by doing it.
that's a good one.
Saw the CDC reduced the recommended quarantining period. Collège athletics should enjoy that.
what a fun year! I like the flexibility of schedules
Pac 12 should've stuck with their plan and played some chip'd football in spring. Think of the promotion chip kelly could do!
what a fun year! I like the flexibility of schedules
it's weird when you never know when games will be, but i like it. a random tuesday afternoon nfl game feels like opening a present.
This is so hilarious and stupid and sad at the same time
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1338174986582802433
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1338175363818483712
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1338174751592878082
I've been surprised by teams opting out of bowl games. I understand, to some degree, the challenges they've faced this season, but I'm surprised they would pass on those extra practices.
bowl games are expensivePlus however many weeks of testing. I'm assuming they don't give a crap if the kids get sick for at least a couple months
bowl games are expensive
What exactly should the Pac 12 have done to avoid Washington getting their OL wrecked with COVID?
What exactly should the Pac 12 have done to avoid Washington getting their OL wrecked with COVID?
play in the spring
Has nothing to do with getting Covid itself. Do all the lineman actually have Covid? They could have started with the 3 other major conferences and likely have played a reasonable number of games.
Y'all hear about Mizzou and their scumbag coach scam Nashville and the University of Iowa out of having a bowl game? They had COVID issues with their last game, accepted a bow bid from the Music City Bowl, then didn't practice, they sent their players home after the regular season was over, then pulled out of the bowl three days before it was supposed to be played. They didn't tell the bowl they sent the kids home, so they sold tickets and employed people to work to prep the bowl, these people missing time with their families to prepare for a bowl that was never going to happen. They didn't tell Iowa either, so Iowa has been practicing this whole time, had to suspend workouts for three days last week, so for the back half of the week they couldn't go home nor hang out with their teammates. They came back to practice over the weekend only to find out that Missouri didn't practice and sent their players home.
rough ridin' brutal, he seems really smug about it too
https://twitter.com/NathalieABC17/status/1343322509022818306
he's getting way too many quality recruits. Not sure if its him or his assistants. i dont see the attraction. but if he continues to recruit like this i would steal whatever assistant is doing the workY'all hear about Mizzou and their scumbag coach scam Nashville and the University of Iowa out of having a bowl game? They had COVID issues with their last game, accepted a bow bid from the Music City Bowl, then didn't practice, they sent their players home after the regular season was over, then pulled out of the bowl three days before it was supposed to be played. They didn't tell the bowl they sent the kids home, so they sold tickets and employed people to work to prep the bowl, these people missing time with their families to prepare for a bowl that was never going to happen. They didn't tell Iowa either, so Iowa has been practicing this whole time, had to suspend workouts for three days last week, so for the back half of the week they couldn't go home nor hang out with their teammates. They came back to practice over the weekend only to find out that Missouri didn't practice and sent their players home.
rough ridin' brutal, he seems really smug about it too
https://twitter.com/NathalieABC17/status/1343322509022818306
He is such a rough ridin' dork.
But he's a dork that's recruiting entirely too well so far.