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Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2020, 08:56:01 PM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2020, 08:59:59 PM
wut
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Post by: DaBigTrain on April 15, 2020, 09:10:48 PM
Pretty sure this is old news
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Spring at the worst. Not now, SD.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 15, 2020, 09:15:43 PM
wut
From your perspective this is actually good news. The 10 year rolling 100 loss streak is looking out of reach now.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
wut
From your perspective this is actually good news. The 10 year rolling 100 loss streak is looking out of reach now.

Lol. True, but I'm long past caring. Can I get a link, though? The only thing I've seen is the commissioners saying no students on campus = no NCAA sports.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Cardiac Cats on April 15, 2020, 09:20:32 PM
wut
From your perspective this is actually good news. The 10 year rolling 100 loss streak is looking out of reach now.

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2020, 09:23:44 PM
NCAA AD’s said today and flexed back at Pence that nobody will field a team (football) unless students are back on campus during that time. Unless SD heard something different, I call BS, as much as every Universities revenue is based off college football. We’re talking the Athletic Department, professors, donors, etc. All gone or decreased salaries, etc. If this happens. All the colleges said today is students need to be present on campus for games to happen and I call BS, because pro sports will be back soon, and they’ll find a way to make it happen and play in empty stadiums while trying to find a way to quarantine their student athletes to make it happen.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on April 15, 2020, 09:30:45 PM
NCAA AD’s said today and flexed back at Pence that nobody will field a team (football) unless students are back on campus during that time. Unless SD heard something different, I call BS, as much as every Universities revenue is based off college football. We’re talking the Athletic Department, professors, donors, etc. All gone or decreased salaries, etc. If this happens. All the colleges said today is students need to be present on campus for games to happen and I call BS, because pro sports will be back soon, and they’ll find a way to make it happen and play in empty stadiums while trying to find a way to quarantine their student athletes to make it happen.

I think we are pretty dangerously close to college campuses announcing they are going to be closed for the summer. Most have already announced that they are online only, but if that happens then you have a 6-8 week lag time and you start making the fall season pretty tough to pull off and then you are up against winter and what do we think about that? So tough.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2020, 09:41:21 PM
I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2020, 09:50:32 PM
Also, IF they make this happen, this would be the best time to FLEX “pay for play“ as a student athlete. My word!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on April 15, 2020, 09:58:50 PM
I was told by a University of Central Missouri employee that they are preparing for fall enrollment increase due to all the potential students wanting to get out of their parents' basement.  They are in "fix it/build it" mode right now until then.

But yea I'm hearing all local Universities are counting on keeping campus closed throughout the Summer.  Many Universities are charging similar fees for classes as if they were in person as well. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on April 15, 2020, 10:20:23 PM
I was told by a University of Central Missouri employee that they are preparing for fall enrollment increase due to all the potential students wanting to get out of their parents' basement.  They are in "fix it/build it" mode right now until then.

But yea I'm hearing all local Universities are counting on keeping campus closed throughout the Summer.  Many Universities are charging similar fees for classes as if they were in person as well.

That seems very optimistic.  I am guessing there are a lot of students that don't even apply, and a lot of current students that don't show back up.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on April 15, 2020, 10:29:08 PM
I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:

This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2020, 10:30:57 PM
I'm feeling VERY good about my decision to drop cable last month.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on April 15, 2020, 10:38:39 PM
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The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach relays that many of the college athletic directors and commissioners whom she has spoken with are looking toward the end of May to make a decision on the 2020 CFB season.

A May decision makes sense given that schools will past the spring semester at that point and looking to lock in plans -- if possible -- for the fall semester. Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick noted that in order for the college football season to be played as scheduled, it would require (for obvious reasons) all campuses to be open, rather than just select ones. Which could be an issue given that the coronavirus is not impacting every state in the country in a static, blanket fashion. There are some states which smartly issued stay-at-home orders and the like very early, but others (such as football hotbed states like Florida, South Carolina and Georgia) which dragged their heels. The spread of the virus is not uniform, which makes a uniform decision on college football a complicated one. Hopefully we'll have more information in another month or so.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: LickNeckey on April 15, 2020, 10:40:02 PM
some D2 coaches have been told to start to consider finding alternative employment options for the fall

seriously
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 15, 2020, 10:56:53 PM
I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:

This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.
I think this is what the drawing line is now for these universities. Thought I brought it up earlier? Are they willing to pay bloated professor salaries for online teaching or just cut their losses in whole? Like I said, good time to promote “pay for play” if the universities mainly exist off cfb/cbb revenue.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on April 15, 2020, 11:02:38 PM
I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:

This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.
I think this is what the drawing line is now for these universities. Thought I brought it up earlier? Are they willing to pay bloated professor salaries for online teaching or just cut their losses in whole? Like I said, good time to promote “pay for play” if the universities mainly exist off cfb/cbb revenue.

a couple things--

1) universities don't get a bunch of direct revenue from college football. they benefit a lot indirectly, but it isn't like not having football is the thing that is going to drastically hurt the university "professors" budget. the athletic budget, which is completely separate from university funds will be hurt a lot if they don't have a season.

2) the university budget will probably get crushed if there is no college football season, because campus is very limited or outright closed and "online only" or something and it will be the expected effect on enrollment, lack of commerce on campus, no housing and dining income etc. that kill the budget
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 'taterblast on April 16, 2020, 08:38:12 AM
good, i say
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on April 16, 2020, 09:00:43 AM
:lol:

(https://www.kstatesports.com/images/2020/4/15/041520_FES_FBTicketRenewal.png?width=1024&height=576&mode=crop)

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In the event that the season cannot be played as scheduled, various ticket and donation resolutions will be offered.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 16, 2020, 09:05:04 AM
I'm more concerned with figuring out what the plan is for my incoming freshman son.  Will fall classes be online, delayed, etc?  I have a feeling trying to coordinate housing is going to be a gigantic cluster.  Plan on spending some time this weekend going through K-State email correspondence to try and get a handle on things.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2020, 09:24:18 AM
I'm more concerned with figuring out what the plan is for my incoming freshman son.  Will fall classes be online, delayed, etc?  I have a feeling trying to coordinate housing is going to be a gigantic cluster.  Plan on spending some time this weekend going through K-State email correspondence to try and get a handle on things.
I can’t speak for KSU but I will tell you that other universities are already planning for a potential online only fall semester. It’s wait and see but if students do come to campus it will be with significant restrictions around a lot of things. Most have made that call already for summer. Also expecting significant enrollment decreases overall. A lot of that driven by foreign enrollment but also some domestic decrease.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 16, 2020, 10:19:07 AM
I'm more concerned with figuring out what the plan is for my incoming freshman son.  Will fall classes be online, delayed, etc?  I have a feeling trying to coordinate housing is going to be a gigantic cluster.  Plan on spending some time this weekend going through K-State email correspondence to try and get a handle on things.
I can’t speak for KSU but I will tell you that other universities are already planning for a potential online only fall semester. It’s wait and see but if students do come to campus it will be with significant restrictions around a lot of things. Most have made that call already for summer. Also expecting significant enrollment decreases overall. A lot of that driven by foreign enrollment but also some domestic decrease.


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On the bright side, he may be able to complete is first semester online without the additional cost of housing.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on April 16, 2020, 10:30:54 AM
Have him take a year off and go to college when he can have the full experience.  Maybe knock off some basic courses at a juco or online during the year to make the schedule more pak-friendly when goes off for real.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2020, 10:54:14 AM
A gap year where you just sit at home and do nothing sounds like crap though. I’d vote pound out the very shittiest courses online while you have nothing better to do.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on April 16, 2020, 11:07:19 AM
I totally agree, but I think they’ll try and make exceptions for sports like college football. Like, Do covid tests before they go on campus, see if they’re good and then Quarantine them in dorm rooms or something. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking (definitely am after I read this), but their TV revenues are worth it to try and make it happen. Maybe I’m just listening to too much Soren, but a lot of livelihoods depend on that revenue at the University for them to try and not make it work. I could see normal students online and student athletes on the campus after testing and living a dorm life to make it happen in August. :dunno: :dunno:

This is why there is zero chance college football happens unless all students are back on campus. Kind of hard to drive the whole "student athlete" and "amateur" shtick if college is deemed too dangerous for the general student body yet the football team has to show up and fulfill contractual TV obligations to make money for schools.

This is 100% why I really don't think college FB (or any college sports) is going to happen. I can totally see pro being able to figure out a way, but it totally seems unreasonable to force students to play if they can't get students on campus. Even if you play everything in Jerry World, the message you're sending is "we need you to play for our money" without the students being compensated.

Likewise, it will also take all the schools to buy in on it, any school deciding to opt out will pretty much end the season pretty quick. I've already accepted it in my mind college football isn't happening this year.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
A gap year where you just sit at home and do nothing sounds like crap though. I’d vote pound out the very shittiest courses online while you have nothing better to do.


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But do it with a juco. Cheaper and they're probably better set up for online classes tbh
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 16, 2020, 11:31:03 AM
All valid points, those are all solutions that we will have to evaluate fairly soon.  BCCC is cheap as crap for us since we live in Butler County.  Just need to make sure whatever he takes will transfer if we go that route.  In the meantime, it sucks crap we may not get to see Stone Poundin' this fall.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on April 16, 2020, 11:36:55 AM
it sucks crap we may not get to see Stone Poundin' this fall.

:dubious:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: XocolateThundarr on April 16, 2020, 11:42:23 AM
it sucks crap we may not get to see Stone Poundin' this fall.

:dubious:

*CLARIFICATION*  THERE WILL STILL BE PLENTY OF LONG 'STONES POUNDED THIS FALL.  *CLARIFICATION*   

:cheers:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on April 16, 2020, 12:15:49 PM
Yeah this seems like a wonderful opportunity to bang out the basics at a juco price
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on April 16, 2020, 01:06:54 PM
A gap year where you just sit at home and do nothing sounds like crap though. I’d vote pound out the very shittiest courses online while you have nothing better to do.


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Yeah, this is a great opportunity to knock out like 40-50 credit hours this year, then cruise and booze through Aggieville for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on April 16, 2020, 07:25:40 PM
https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1250879604073652231

This blew my mind, but I guess it shouldn't.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2020, 07:49:01 PM
https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1250879604073652231

This blew my mind, but I guess it shouldn't.
Thirty percent having access to real weights seems kinda high actually
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2020, 07:49:33 PM
If any football coaches need YouTube yoga recommendations, let me know
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2020, 08:41:06 PM
figures cfb doesn’t get to play when the cats are sitting in the catbird seat for a title
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 16, 2020, 09:41:41 PM
If this holds back Sky from getting drafted or making an NFL roster, ALL BETS ARE OFF, FOLKS!!!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2020, 09:43:42 PM
If this holds back Sky from getting drafted or making an NFL roster, ALL BETS ARE OFF, FOLKS!!!

this is a very good post
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 16, 2020, 10:06:32 PM
 :cheers:
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Post by: MakeItRain on April 16, 2020, 10:47:57 PM
https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1250879604073652231

This blew my mind, but I guess it shouldn't.
Thirty percent having access to real weights seems kinda high actually

Yeah considering gyms are closed, this doesn't seem plausible, not enough weight to do anything for his players. My wife has a set of hand weights for zumba, does that count?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 16, 2020, 11:44:13 PM
Honestly, I would think hometown previous HS coaches would be sneaking these guys in the back door at their old HS weight room when back at home. Mainly small town guys.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 21, 2020, 05:05:26 PM
https://twitter.com/ap_top25/status/1252709384515395584?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on April 21, 2020, 05:26:04 PM
https://twitter.com/ap_top25/status/1252709384515395584?s=21

That's really not too bad.  A 10 day pay cut is about a 4% pay cut on average, isn't it?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on April 22, 2020, 11:54:55 AM
Is this the perfect time for conference contraction and realignment?  :jeffy:

No, Bowlsby already said that this is the absolute worst time. New TV deals would be pretty bad for the schools right now.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KST8FAN on April 25, 2020, 12:41:49 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/

Tom

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on April 25, 2020, 01:26:22 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/

Tom

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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money.  If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO.  If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2020, 01:28:00 PM
I don't think spring football is impossible like he insists
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Post by: Pete on April 25, 2020, 05:11:57 PM
I don't think spring football is impossible like he insists

I agree.  Sounds pretty great, actually.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2020, 08:21:30 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/

Tom

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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money.  If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO.  If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.

Privileged
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Big Sam on April 25, 2020, 11:47:37 PM

I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money.  If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO.  If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.

I world without women's field hockey is a world in which I do not want to live.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on April 26, 2020, 10:26:39 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/

Tom

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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money.  If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO.  If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.

Privileged

 :jerk: 

Privileged athletes, maybe.  Schools hand those scholarships out arbitrarily, and almost none of the programs make enough money to support themselves. So, just keep arbitrarily handing out scholarships, but give it to those with academic qualifications AND economic need.   I mean, if they really are going pro in something other than sports, then let's focus on that shall we?  Sports are entertainment, nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on April 26, 2020, 11:24:01 AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rayglier/2020/04/22/its-over-for-football-so-save-the-rest-of-college-sports/

Tom

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I completely disagree with that guy, but because I am against any sport that doesn't make money.  If they can't support themselves, they shouldn't exist IMO.  If schools want to piss money away, give it to smart kids who deserve academic scholarships and not rough ridin' worthless shot put thrower scholarships and subsidies.

Privileged

 :jerk: 

Privileged athletes, maybe.  Schools hand those scholarships out arbitrarily, and almost none of the programs make enough money to support themselves. So, just keep arbitrarily handing out scholarships, but give it to those with academic qualifications AND economic need.   I mean, if they really are going pro in something other than sports, then let's focus on that shall we?  Sports are entertainment, nothing more, nothing less.

You think non revenue sports athletes are privileged? I guess we don't have anything else to talk about given this is your stance. This is akin to arguing with someone that the world isn't flat. If someone holds a strong belief that the world is flat, there's no evidence that can convince them otherwise.

There are plenty of college athletes that participate in non revenue sports and getting a college scholarship to do so is their best or even only path to become a college graduate. Academic scholarships are far less merit based than athletic scholarships. Let's play your game and assume that the money that athletic departments and donors spend on non revenue sports, they just give that to the university out of the goodness of their hearts, instead of bigger weight rooms, more luxury boxes, and bigger salaries for coaches and administrators. How much of this infusion of scholarship money will go to a high school long jumper from south Dallas with a 2.6 GPA and a 19 ACT. How much of that scholarship money is going to go to a kid from Lenexa with a 3.4 and a 25 ACT?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on April 26, 2020, 05:03:07 PM
I repeat  :jerk:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 28, 2020, 03:45:30 PM
As most of you guys know, I just rushed and was pretty excited about getting to campus so I can get some older bros to buy me some claws and start hooking up with some ladies.  Is this in jeopardy?  What if we just have mask themed date parties?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 28, 2020, 03:47:56 PM
Ain't no laws when you're drinking claws.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on April 28, 2020, 03:49:21 PM
The White Claw Tiktoks have been great, lately. Some of you should take note.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 28, 2020, 07:22:39 PM
Post the tik toks, kk!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: porky morgan on April 29, 2020, 11:51:28 AM
Klieman quoted.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29088227/how-coronavirus-affect-college-football-season-2020
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 05, 2020, 09:32:10 PM
See you this fall, friends!


https://twitter.com/mrcfb/status/1257835680157351938?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 05, 2020, 10:38:05 PM
All I can think when I see photos/paintings of people from the late 1800s and early 1900s is they were all stupid to dress that way. Suits to the park & football games? GMAFB they had to have been so hot.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 05, 2020, 10:47:36 PM
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on May 06, 2020, 09:27:19 AM
My non farmer gramps used to wear dress slacks and a button up shirt every single day. I don't think he even owned a pair of jeans or a t-shirt, maybe he did to mow his lawn or something but I never saw him in anything but dress slacks and a button up shirt.

The man rode around in a train car sorting mail for the post office so its not like he was some big time stock broker or something.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 06, 2020, 01:45:25 PM
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.

Flying used to be much more luxurious . . . watch a Mad Men episode or two FFS.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: slackcat on May 07, 2020, 07:21:40 AM
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.

slob
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 07, 2020, 08:09:56 AM
My favorite is when old people bitch about how nobody dresses up to fly anymore. Yeah sorry gramps, this plane is hot as eff and it’s incredibly cramped. Apologies that I left my suit and fedora at home for this one. Also newsflash, you can’t smoke that pipe on this plane.

Flying used to be much more luxurious . . . watch a Mad Men episode or two FFS.


tell us more, gramps
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2020, 12:24:34 PM
Miles just stomping all over SD’s stupid face!

https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1258446232428646401?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on May 07, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
you're going to believe something out of les mile's mouth/brain over steve dave, is that what you are saying?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 07, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
 :lol: For once I am out of hope.  :pray:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: HerrSonntag on May 14, 2020, 10:05:47 PM
i judge people in athletic shorts on airplanes, you wanna fight 'bout it?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on May 14, 2020, 10:06:38 PM
i judge people in athletic shorts on airplanes, you wanna fight 'bout it?

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 14, 2020, 11:28:10 PM
Cool, thanks a lot Mr. GQ for holding us all up in the security line when you have to undo your belt and put your trench coat through and put your suit jacket through and put your fedora through and untie your tie and undo your shoes.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on May 14, 2020, 11:49:12 PM
I am an absolute slob, but it is hard to imagine society wouldn't be better off if we had higher standards for public attire.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 14, 2020, 11:52:48 PM
I love suiting up, but the novelty would definitely wear off if I were expected to do it daily.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on May 15, 2020, 07:04:28 AM
i judge people in athletic shorts on airplanes, you wanna fight 'bout it?
Same.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2020, 07:17:20 AM
I have swapped a suit for a pair of shorts about 100 times in airport lounges and bathrooms. It feels incredible. My usual move is to slug like 4 crispy boys, change, slug 4 more, fly. Time permitting obv. Because of ORD to OMA flight times I’ve usually got a couple hours of airport time so this routine is followed often.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WonderMeal on May 15, 2020, 08:09:49 AM
Cool, thanks a lot Mr. GQ for holding us all up in the security line when you have to undo your belt and put your trench coat through and put your suit jacket through and put your fedora through and untie your tie and undo your shoes.

Ts and Ps about your lack of TSA Pre.  :cry:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on May 15, 2020, 12:34:09 PM
I ONLY fly in athletic shorts or sweats  :gocho:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on May 15, 2020, 03:03:47 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2020, 03:10:30 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.
Everything Lulu makes is amazing irl. Incred how expensive it is but damn if it isn’t worth it.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ChiComCat on May 15, 2020, 03:46:01 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.

I've heard this suggestion from about a million people.  At some point I'm bound to listen to it
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on May 15, 2020, 03:50:39 PM


Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.

I've heard this suggestion from about a million people.  At some point I'm bound to listen to it

When retail opens go to a store and try them on. It's pretty crazy how they look like chinos but feel like sweatpants. I love them but I think there's probably some better online only brands.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2020, 04:19:50 PM
$60 FOR A T-SHIRT!? eff THAT....FINE, here's my money.  :curse:

.....

.....

Holy crap this t-shirt is rough ridin' incredible 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on May 15, 2020, 04:41:32 PM
That sounds like a match made in heaven, mc
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2020, 09:36:02 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.

I've heard this suggestion from about a million people.  At some point I'm bound to listen to it

ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2020, 01:23:48 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.

I've heard this suggestion from about a million people.  At some point I'm bound to listen to it

ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?

well, since you downgrades didn't answer my question, i went with these.  they seem perfect.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kim carnes on May 22, 2020, 02:16:46 PM
Circa 5 years ago for a small window of time they made pants called abc lights and they were many orders of magnitude better than the regular abc pants.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on May 22, 2020, 02:30:03 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.

I've heard this suggestion from about a million people.  At some point I'm bound to listen to it

ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?
Yeah I would go for it
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on May 22, 2020, 02:44:05 PM
Not sure how this became an airplane clothes thread in the middle of a pandemic but the Lululemon stretchy slacks are AMAZING for air travel.

I've heard this suggestion from about a million people.  At some point I'm bound to listen to it

ABC Pant Classic Warpstreme?

well, since you downgrades didn't answer my question, i went with these.  they seem perfect.
I looked at the pants I had and I couldn't tell what they were. When I went a lot was sold out and I thought they had too many options
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on May 23, 2020, 02:19:53 PM
I haven’t opened this thread for awhile and was :confused: why all of page 4 was about travel dress and how the thread got there. Then I went back and realized I started the deviation. :lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on May 27, 2020, 07:01:50 AM
So I'm supposed to fly this weekend with my SO. Did we settle on proper flying attire? Do those rules still apply during the quarantine?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 01, 2020, 02:28:28 PM
$60 FOR A T-SHIRT!? eff THAT....FINE, here's my money.  :curse:

.....

.....

Holy crap this t-shirt is rough ridin' incredible
A lot of folks (mainly females) swear by these for workout clothes. Do they lock in the stank like a dry fit shirt does over time?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 01, 2020, 09:09:26 PM
So I'm supposed to fly this weekend with my SO. Did we settle on proper flying attire? Do those rules still apply during the quarantine?

gym shorts
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: GregKSU1027 on June 04, 2020, 09:31:08 AM
There will be COLLEGE FOOTBALL, You heard it here first folks.

Picture yourself at the Bill on a cool fall afternoon, then you say to yourself "I'm so glad Greg was right"
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on June 04, 2020, 10:15:20 AM
shut up greg
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on June 04, 2020, 04:23:25 PM
https://twitter.com/SimoneEli_TV/status/1268622295519592448
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KST8FAN on June 04, 2020, 04:26:17 PM
Iowa State and Oklahoma Sate have positives too in the story I read.  isu has staff who are positive.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2020, 04:45:25 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1271551432391622657


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2020, 05:14:08 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1271551432391622657


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This is going to go great
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2020, 05:56:12 PM
who could have foreseen this?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2020, 06:43:42 PM
Football is happening. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2020, 06:46:11 PM
Football is happening.
Yep. And it'll be problem free.
Title: COVID
Post by: manpow5 on June 16, 2020, 12:54:12 PM
https://247sports.com/college/kansas-state/Article/Kansas-State-football-positive-COVID-19-test-quarantine-148229087/Amp/
Title: Re: COVID
Post by: Spracne on June 16, 2020, 01:17:55 PM
It's going to be a wild season, if at all. Imagine the Cat Backers sending in infected coeds to fraternize with our student athletes in advance of the Sunflower Showdown.
Title: Re: COVID
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2020, 01:21:53 PM
I doubt the catbackers have a harem of 16 yr old runaways that ku athletes seem to be attracted to
Title: Re: COVID
Post by: manpow5 on June 16, 2020, 02:25:36 PM
I doubt the catbackers have a harem of 16 yr old runaways that ku athletes seem to be attracted to

Basically explained the Boom Boom room of the Hawk in one sentence.

Also, if you've been in the Boom Boom room of the Hawk, you're immune from just about every disease known to man.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2020, 07:53:34 PM
https://twitter.com/geoffrbennett/status/1273053354139230214


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Cire on June 16, 2020, 08:20:49 PM
Fauci is a deep state plant


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on June 16, 2020, 10:15:48 PM
Just take the L Steve
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 19, 2020, 10:56:47 AM
LOL, Fauci was just saying 2 weeks ago or so he thought football could on with precautions.

The dude is all over the map. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 19, 2020, 04:51:59 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1274094703575805956
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KST8FAN on June 19, 2020, 07:08:02 PM
https://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/story/2020-06-19/ucla-football-players-demand-protections-amid-pandemic-return


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on June 19, 2020, 08:36:11 PM
i mean, variolating all the players over the summer takes one objection to having a season off the table.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
Yeah, if everyone has already had it, play ball


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 19, 2020, 09:43:45 PM
Yeah, if everyone has already had it, play ball


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Problem is the coaches and media and fans and the rest of the student body. Unless they can somehow get herd immunity before the season.

But honestly it's probably fine if you play without fans a
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 19, 2020, 09:52:58 PM
Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stop


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 19, 2020, 09:59:55 PM
Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stop


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Yeah bundesliga piped in boos for bad calls which was very inspiring
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on June 20, 2020, 08:32:49 AM
Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stop


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Yeah bundesliga piped in boos for bad calls which was very inspiring

yeah the piped in noise for bundesliga actually helps quite a bit in my opinion from a viewing standpoint
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2020, 08:33:49 AM
Just pump in Sandstorm/FKU chant non stop


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Yeah bundesliga piped in boos for bad calls which was very inspiring

yeah the piped in noise for bundesliga actually helps quite a bit in my opinion from a viewing standpoint
I liked the first ones without noise more, but the fake crowd does make it feel more like a normal game and less like a scrimmage.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: purplehaze on June 20, 2020, 08:53:47 AM
There should be technology that lets livestreamers control crowd noises in real time. I mean its 2020 lets put this crap to use.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 20, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
There should be technology that lets livestreamers control crowd noises in real time. I mean its 2020 lets put this crap to use.

I think this is being perfected. There was talk of the German league using this but it didn't happen, I haven't seen an explanation.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 20, 2020, 11:39:32 AM
I just learned that on the NBC sports app you can watch it without the piped in crowd. apparently it isn't in the stadium, just the broadcast.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 20, 2020, 02:26:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1274414625480736768
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Brock Landers on June 20, 2020, 02:31:57 PM
Welp. Is there a known breakdown of what sports the cases are in?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Institutional Control on June 20, 2020, 02:38:12 PM
ESPN says football practices are suspended for 14 days.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on June 20, 2020, 02:38:48 PM
14 days is all we need to gain the upper hand...
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on June 20, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
We are so mumped.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 20, 2020, 03:24:17 PM
this is why you don't share vape pens
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on June 20, 2020, 08:03:56 PM
We are so mumped.
If football happens at all this year, a widespread COVID outbreak at this point seems like only a positive for the cats.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 20, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
First to full immunity (RIP like 2 guys) first to the Big 12 championship - 2020 Weight Room Slogan
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on June 20, 2020, 10:07:47 PM
Really bummed you guys. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on June 21, 2020, 11:28:25 AM
either ksu admin is over reacting or they had a flawed protocol in place. there shouldn't be many reasons why they couldn't construct a protocol that limited virus spread to small groups who could be isolated leaving the majority of the team open to continuing workouts.
my guess is they designed one and then didn't ensure it was followed. which should have been the #1 focus of the program
now they are just wasting time and resources doing nothing which they should have done everything possible to avoid.
numerous other programs have significantly more positives and are still working out. what do they know that ksu does not?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 21, 2020, 11:36:30 AM


either ksu admin is over reacting or they had a flawed protocol in place. there shouldn't be many reasons why they couldn't construct a protocol that limited virus spread to small groups who could be isolated leaving the majority of the team open to continuing workouts.
my guess is they designed one and then didn't ensure it was followed. which should have been the #1 focus of the program
now they are just wasting time and resources doing nothing which they should have done everything possible to avoid.
numerous other programs have significantly more positives and are still working out. what do they know that ksu does not?

It's possible other programs care less about their athletes, student body, and community
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 21, 2020, 11:39:10 AM
either ksu admin is over reacting or they had a flawed protocol in place. there shouldn't be many reasons why they couldn't construct a protocol that limited virus spread to small groups who could be isolated leaving the majority of the team open to continuing workouts.
my guess is they designed one and then didn't ensure it was followed. which should have been the #1 focus of the program
now they are just wasting time and resources doing nothing which they should have done everything possible to avoid.
numerous other programs have significantly more positives and are still working out. what do they know that ksu does not?
Very possible that the other programs are under-reacting too
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 21, 2020, 11:49:06 AM
I know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on June 21, 2020, 01:03:39 PM
I know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.

Where's justwin to tell us how much a life is actuarily worth?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 21, 2020, 01:08:54 PM
I know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.

Where's justwin to tell us how much a life is actuarily worth?
I think like $200k was his figure
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 21, 2020, 03:53:45 PM
so what's everyone going to miss the most about no college football this season?
probably will be tailgating for me
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on June 21, 2020, 07:50:10 PM
so what's everyone going to miss the most about no college football this season?
probably will be tailgating for me
Definitely crushing suds w/ my bros on the West side  :gocho:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on June 21, 2020, 09:08:38 PM
https://theathletic.com/1884185/2020/06/21/kansas-state-football-coronavirus-tests/

TLDR: 2 Players were tested on friday, didnt get results until monday that they were positive after they went out party rocking over the weekend. Kstate retested all the players hanging out with them over the weekend and 6 more players tested positive.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on June 21, 2020, 09:10:25 PM
14 days is all we need to gain the upper hand...

Starting the theory now one of our guys was made to be in contact with a ku planted 'rona positive person to bring us down
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on June 22, 2020, 12:45:31 AM
https://theathletic.com/1884185/2020/06/21/kansas-state-football-coronavirus-tests/

TLDR: 2 Players were tested on friday, didnt get results until monday that they were positive after they went out party rocking over the weekend. Kstate retested all the players hanging out with them over the weekend and 6 more players tested positive.

Superspread the dang weekend.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2020, 07:55:33 AM
The consequences of partying are that you get out of grueling summer practices.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2020, 08:47:21 AM
https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1275014756684963843
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2020, 09:24:20 AM
https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1275014756684963843

yeah. plus a lot of them are living in dorms and they're all expected to go to class with the rest of the students. The soccer teams that have played can have quarantine hotels and do nothing but soccer.

it's gonna spread like crazy on campuses and at football games, the question is does america give a rip or will we just say "let's protect old people and it's all good"
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 10:28:17 AM
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?

What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Cire on June 22, 2020, 10:31:56 AM
https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1275014756684963843

yeah. plus a lot of them are living in dorms and they're all expected to go to class with the rest of the students. The soccer teams that have played can have quarantine hotels and do nothing but soccer.

it's gonna spread like crazy on campuses and at football games, the question is does america give a rip or will we just say "let's protect old people and it's all good"
Muh freedoms


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2020, 11:08:05 AM
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?

What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?



I don't know the morbidity or symptomatic percentages for college students, but I'd guess both are really low and I'd be shocked if a college athlete died.

I'm more worried about the communities as a whole. What happens when students interact with professors and business around town?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2020, 11:08:58 AM
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?

What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?


dax, what is the success rate at isolating the virus away from the most vulnerable parts of our population?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2020, 11:09:51 AM
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?

What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?


dax, what is the success rate at isolating the virus away from the most vulnerable parts of our population?

spoiler alert, it's a 0% success rate
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2020, 11:12:38 AM
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
cRusty, what are the morbidity numbers for the traditional college age group?

What are the symptomatic numbers for that age group?


dax, what is the success rate at isolating the virus away from the most vulnerable parts of our population?

spoiler alert, it's a 0% success rate

Avoiding Grandma Killer Gubs would be a good start.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 11:15:15 AM
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.

If there's not social distancing and the following of proper procedures yes, it is a bigger problem.

From a morbidity and hospitalization rate within the target demographic it's a smaller problem.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2020, 11:50:45 AM
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.

If there's not social distancing and the following of proper procedures yes, it is a bigger problem.

I mean, "proper procedure" would probably require cancelling college as it currently exists. Kids are gonna party and suck face and share bathrooms and gather in large groups.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 01:14:29 PM
also the fact that so many might be asymptomatic makes it a bigger problem, not smaller.

If there's not social distancing and the following of proper procedures yes, it is a bigger problem.

I mean, "proper procedure" would probably require cancelling college as it currently exists. Kids are gonna party and suck face and share bathrooms and gather in large groups.

Well, that's not happening cRusty.

You take the RONA out of the nursing and assisted care facilities in the U.S. and the morbidity rate plummets.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on June 22, 2020, 01:39:25 PM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2020, 02:12:17 PM
You take the RONA out of the nursing and assisted care facilities in the U.S. and the morbidity rate plummets.

ok cool that shouldn't be a problem
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on June 22, 2020, 02:41:31 PM
why not just take covid out of the whole world instead of only nursing homes?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on June 22, 2020, 02:47:06 PM
why not just take covid out of the whole world instead of only nursing homes?

Yep.

Goal #12 - No self limitations.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 22, 2020, 03:04:31 PM
why not just take covid out of the whole world instead of only nursing homes?

Yep.

Goal #12 - No self limitations.
:lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 03:10:18 PM
Every shelter in place until the RONA is totally eradicated
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 03:11:30 PM
You take the RONA out of the nursing and assisted care facilities in the U.S. and the morbidity rate plummets.

ok cool that shouldn't be a problem

It really shouldn't be . . . but Grandma Killer gov's happened.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2020, 06:14:53 PM
You'll have to excuse dax, he doesn't actually care about this subject, he just was trying to find a way to crap on cuomo. Why that is so important to him, well I don't really know.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2020, 07:56:51 PM
You'll have to excuse dax, he doesn't actually care about this subject, he just was trying to find a way to crap on cuomo. Why that is so important to him, well I don't really know.

Useful Idiot .9 gets absolutely  :curse: whenever anyone speaks ill about one of his heroes.

If we're going to point to all kinds of factors as to why we need to just go back into hiding and cancel college football, lets consider where the highest cases of morbidity are, and where the the lowest cases of morbidity are.

We'll put cRusty and Clams on Team Cancel Football until the Rona is totally eradicated.   Head Cheerleader:  Useful Idiot .9



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2020, 08:26:07 PM
Ok dax
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on June 22, 2020, 08:40:58 PM
Ok daxBoomer

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 23, 2020, 07:24:57 AM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.

In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 23, 2020, 07:35:38 AM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.

In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.

So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.  Just 100 kids dead to play football this year.  Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 23, 2020, 07:48:07 AM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.

In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.

So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.  Just 100 kids dead to play football this year.  Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.

As long as we get our football it's all worth the sacrifice, keep up slowOCHOdug.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 23, 2020, 07:51:48 AM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.

In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.

So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.  Just 100 kids dead to play football this year.  Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.

As long as we get our football it's all worth the sacrifice, keep up slowOCHOdug.

We need to bring our players back.  We need to run money through the state of Oklahoma.  Probably only 4 or 5 players and a couple of coaches will die in the Big 12.  They probably will just be freshman we haven't heard of.  They're getting a scholarship, what more could they need?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2020, 08:37:10 AM


Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.

We'll just make sure those other people don't get it through a proper procedure and social distancing.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 23, 2020, 09:10:50 AM
LOL, excellent work at making it sound like it's absolutely impossible to pull this off.

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Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2020, 09:58:05 AM
LOL, excellent work at making it sound like it's absolutely impossible to pull this off.



it's totally possible to pull off, the question is how many people are we willing to let die for it? (lots of people will die if college football is played this year).
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on June 23, 2020, 10:18:01 AM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.

In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.

So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'l l see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.  Just 100 kids dead to play football this year.  Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.

You aren’t one to pull numbers out of your ass, where is this coming from? I mean I get you are taking a guess at infection rate but the death rate per infected seems really high. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 23, 2020, 10:23:06 AM
Yep, the average age of death due to 'Rona is greater than the average age of death in the whole country.

The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%.

In the current hotspots in the sun belt, hospitalizations are starting to increase as the average age of those contacting the disease drops, but by all means continue to think that it's only going to kill old people. We haven't magically solved the ICU space and ventilator issues.

So if just FBS/FCS CFB football just goes on, we'l l see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.  Just 100 kids dead to play football this year.  Never mind the much higher risk group of support staff and the fact that these people live out in the community.

You aren’t one to pull numbers out of your ass, where is this coming from? I mean I get you are taking a guess at infection rate but the death rate per infected seems really high.
I was using PurpleOil’s 0.5%. No idea if it is valid.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2020, 10:26:13 AM
dax said it was 0.2% in alabama

As of yesterday, the 3 and 7 day moving averages of new infections in AL have fallen off a cliff, the 14 day moving average is flat.

The last 5 days of daily numbers have plummeted by half since the last peak.   We'll see . . .

Why?  What did they do?

It could be a number of things, good and bad.  Less testing?   I haven't looked at those numbers.   Montgomery mandatory mask order?   My mask observos from a couple of quick errands yesterday were quite mixed around here, very disappointing.   

Hospitalizations down 100 in the last 5 days.

Since we're talking college football, the morbidity rate in the 5-24 age range here is .2% of 831 confirmed Covid-19 deaths.   Infection rate of the college age range is 16.64% of 30,301 confirmed cases. 







Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on June 23, 2020, 11:58:43 AM
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw.  As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died.  In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic.  The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.

That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2020, 11:59:59 AM
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw.  As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died.  In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic.  The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.

That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.

yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on June 23, 2020, 12:03:49 PM
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw.  As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died.  In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic.  The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.

That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.

yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
I really wouldn't -- I'm sure there are plenty of ugly comorbidities even for finely tuned athletes.  When you have that many people, there's a fair chance that someone is going to draw the short straw and get a stroke of horrible luck and die (not for nothing, but i presume this is the same as flu and other common illnesses that can get ugly for a few people out of 25,000).  All that said, it is exceedingly rare for anyone 15-24 to die from Rona. 

Now, 100 dead CFB players would be absolutely shocking to me -- as that would be about double of all deaths from the college demographic to date.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on June 23, 2020, 12:09:48 PM
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw.  As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died.  In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic.  The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.

That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.

yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
I really wouldn't -- I'm sure there are plenty of ugly comorbidities even for finely tuned athletes.  When you have that many people, there's a fair chance that someone is going to draw the short straw and get a stroke of horrible luck and die (not for nothing, but i presume this is the same as flu and other common illnesses that can get ugly for a few people out of 25,000).  All that said, it is exceedingly rare for anyone 15-24 to die from Rona. 

Now, 100 dead CFB players would be absolutely shocking to me -- as that would be about double of all deaths from the college demographic to date.

It looks like Texas had a couple that were symptomatic. I wonder what the symptoms are like for college kids who aren't asymptomatic? I would imagine it varies widely. Kareem Jackson of the Broncos tested positive and had cold like symptoms so I wonder if that's what it's like for most of that age group.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on June 23, 2020, 12:16:10 PM
I still think we have a season given the risk profile of college football athletes.  If we don’t I won’t be upset, but I have to think it would a devastating blow to most Athletic Departments.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 23, 2020, 12:16:23 PM
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw.  As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died.  In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic.  The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.

That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.

yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open

More of these outliers will happen the younger the patients are becoming. When we started mandated distancing these kids already were home or went home when the schools closed. If these college towns and campuses open up, it will be a disaster. Someone, somewhere will get admitted to the ICU and then everything will get shut down. This is much harder to manage with college students than with professionals.

Also there are enough of these student athletes with type 1, sickle cell, and or rheumatoid arthritis, that these cases can become very dangerous very quickly.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 23, 2020, 12:18:31 PM
0.5% death rate for college kids is way higher than reality fwiw.  As of 6/13, 125 15-24 year olds had died.  In order for that to come out to 0.5%, there would have to be only 25,000 infections in that demographic.  The US has had 2.4 million reported cases.

That's not to say one way or the other whether we *should* have CFB this year, but 0.5% for college kids is absurd.

yeah I'd be shocked if a college athlete died even if things are wide open
I really wouldn't -- I'm sure there are plenty of ugly comorbidities even for finely tuned athletes.  When you have that many people, there's a fair chance that someone is going to draw the short straw and get a stroke of horrible luck and die (not for nothing, but i presume this is the same as flu and other common illnesses that can get ugly for a few people out of 25,000).  All that said, it is exceedingly rare for anyone 15-24 to die from Rona. 

Now, 100 dead CFB players would be absolutely shocking to me -- as that would be about double of all deaths from the college demographic to date.

Also we're only talking about football players but they represent around half of the athletes on these campuses, even basketball players are starting to arrive.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 23, 2020, 12:19:38 PM
LOL, excellent work at making it sound like it's absolutely impossible to pull this off.



it's totally possible to pull off, the question is how many people are we willing to let die for it? (lots of people will die if college football is played this year).

Ok cRusty

If they're going to treat college football games like parties at Novak Djokovic's house, you've possibly got a point.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on June 23, 2020, 12:42:19 PM
LOL at trying to push through a single bastardized college football season when right as it'd be ending we can all be chipped and not have to worry about anything.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on June 23, 2020, 07:18:30 PM
we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.

the mortality rate among college-aged people is much, much lower than that.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 23, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.

the mortality rate among college-aged people is much, much lower than that.
So I’ve heard. I was just taking PurpleOil at face value. That appears to have been a mistake.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on June 23, 2020, 07:35:34 PM
yeah, i should have kept reading before replying.  it's a bad habit.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on June 24, 2020, 12:14:31 AM
I’m glad we all beat the shot out of 8man today in here.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 24, 2020, 08:34:17 AM
I’m glad we all beat the shot out of 8man today in here.

 :shakesfist:  :curse: :shakesfist:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 24, 2020, 11:03:07 AM
I just got a message from the future guys and this is all it said:

"No football will be played in Fall 2020."
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 24, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
https://twitter.com/ryanablack/status/1275841692059525125


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on June 24, 2020, 12:45:41 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on June 24, 2020, 01:45:18 PM
i mean, getting them all immune over the summer is probably the best way to go about this.

generalize it to all outwardly healthy college students.  crowd them together on campuses somewhere for a month or so with no faculty or staff around.   complete lord of the flies crap.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on June 24, 2020, 01:49:29 PM
crowd them together on campuses somewhere for a month or so with no faculty or staff around.   complete lord of the flies crap.

There is a perfect place for this, albeit technically not on campus.

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on June 24, 2020, 01:56:51 PM
covid summer 2020: aww yeeeah, time to eff.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 24, 2020, 02:27:12 PM
lmao


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on June 24, 2020, 03:14:45 PM
i think albert einstein said it best...."no consequences"
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 24, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
It's "No negative consequences", dork!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KST8FAN on June 24, 2020, 03:48:58 PM
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/23/opinion/cancel-fall-college-football-season/


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 24, 2020, 06:54:00 PM
I think Albert Einstein said it best:

Quote from: Einstein
Aww yeeeah, time to eff!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: CHONGS on June 24, 2020, 07:51:49 PM
Canco, Albert pulled.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on June 25, 2020, 10:37:56 AM
we'll see 70% of 25,000 players get it, at a death rate of 1 in ~200.

the mortality rate among college-aged people is much, much lower than that.
So I’ve heard. I was just taking PurpleOil at face value. That appears to have been a mistake.

That's because no one actually bothered to read what I wrote. I didn't say that there was a .5% mortality rate in people under 25 years old. I said,

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The current percentages of death by those in the <25 age group with confirmed cases is less than .5%

Since we know that the number of people with the coronavirus is much higher than the number of confirmed cases due to asymptomatic carriers who never get tested, and that not everyone in that age group will even become infected, it is easy to conclude that the actual mortality rate for this age group is much much lower. This is the same conclusion that you all have come to by doing some simple math.

I went back and looked at where I grabbed my data, and the article was citing the New York City Department of Health's report as of the end of April.

New York is a hot spot. Not exactly appropriate to extrapolate throughout the country, but also not inaccurate for predicting what could be seen on a college campus.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on June 25, 2020, 12:15:59 PM
I know everyone made fun of Cuomo's "if it saves one life it's worth it" but honestly if this saves a life it two in MHK, a 14 day football workout pause is probably worth it.

Where's justwin to tell us how much a life is actuarily worth?
I think like $200k was his figure
Not sure about Mean Gene, but Currie wouldn’t sacrifice an hour of football prep for that measley sum.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on June 25, 2020, 03:56:22 PM
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on June 25, 2020, 04:27:00 PM
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out

They really shouldn't be doing that
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 25, 2020, 04:36:22 PM
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out

They really shouldn't be doing that

they're going to if bars are open and if not they'll have house parties.

US colleges are gonna be in a tricky situation because they are gathering points for people from all over the world and are extremely dense and often have small vulnerable communities that rely on them economically.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on June 25, 2020, 04:40:18 PM
Are there girls (or guys!) to talk to at bars and parties in MHK right now?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 25, 2020, 04:42:12 PM
well i guess i would need to see that college athletes rate of infection is significantly higher than the overall population for people their age to conclude that the sport is a significant risk to the population.
we got kids in bars every night who are not athletes. they are currently spreading like crazy.
if coaches can educate the players to reduce risk we might show an overall benefit to players by participating in a program like football that reinforces need to take precautions versus a normal kid who goes out and does whatever he wants with little reinforcement from parents
it will just take time to find out

They really shouldn't be doing that

they probably also shouldn't be fingerblasting rando fillies they don't know for sure are rona free but this is college bruh
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 26, 2020, 07:57:10 AM
#YOLO, BAC!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on June 26, 2020, 08:07:42 AM
https://twitter.com/stevenjgaither/status/1276501237484183552


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on June 26, 2020, 08:14:30 AM
https://twitter.com/stevenjgaither/status/1276501237484183552


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I suspect many more will come down the line
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 26, 2020, 08:51:57 AM
Who's house?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 26, 2020, 09:10:28 AM
lol. Oh no, Morehouse pulled out! :lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 26, 2020, 09:15:42 AM
lol. Oh no, Morehouse pulled out! :lol:

it's a sign of what's coming. Gene alluded to the cost of testing and what happens when teams with big budgets that can test everyone plays teams with smaller budgets that can only test occasionally. Gonna be a lot of issues that come up that we aren't thinking of that'll make it tough to play
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 26, 2020, 09:19:40 AM
I know.  :frown: This is how I deal with bad news. By masking it like it never happened and turning it into a joke. What a dumb name for a college, right? :D
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on June 26, 2020, 01:08:47 PM
Not exactly new territory for football though. At the beginning of May, most of California said they were suspending fall sports. By the end of May, the P5 colleges were all confident that they would see the field on time. Now they're back to being sidelined. We've got over two months until the first games are supposed to be played. I don't disagree that this looks bad, but two months is an eternity as far as Covid goes. There's no way to predict what the situation will be by then.

I just reordered my season tickets, so I'm curious to see if K-State keeps our money and credits it towards next year or issues a refund should the officially cancel the season.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 26, 2020, 01:18:41 PM
Not exactly new territory for football though. At the beginning of May, most of California said they were suspending fall sports. By the end of May, the P5 colleges were all confident that they would see the field on time. Now they're back to being sidelined. We've got over two months until the first games are supposed to be played. I don't disagree that this looks bad, but two months is an eternity as far as Covid goes. There's no way to predict what the situation will be by then.

well, we do have about 4 months of data that could give us an idea of what could happen in two months. I think the biggest unknown is if a P5 school cancels in-person classes
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on June 26, 2020, 03:30:22 PM
I know.  :frown: This is how I deal with bad news. By masking it like it never happened and turning it into a joke. What a dumb name for a college, right? :D
Did you know Morehouse is a HBC?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 26, 2020, 07:10:59 PM
I know.  :frown: This is how I deal with bad news. By masking it like it never happened and turning it into a joke. What a dumb name for a college, right? :D

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 26, 2020, 11:30:51 PM
It seems like it’s gonna trickle out and the NCAA will eventually pull the plug on the season right before it starts. I mean think about the evolution of how the conference hoops tourneys went. The news just kept getting wilder and wilder until ultimately #BigCovid stole KU’s opportunity to compete for the championship out of their rightful hands. 

Btw if by some reason we actually get to play a basketball season but they have to close tge arenas to fans and broadcast games online so we can watch, we better call it Octagon of Zoom lolololol lmao roflmao lolfartbbq
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 26, 2020, 11:56:42 PM
I think we are going to have to see a lot more before the FBS conferences pull the plug on football. They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. A season without football will be highly damaging to the athletic departments. I think when they see these pro sports leagues playing they will feel comfortable enough to give it a go.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 26, 2020, 11:59:18 PM
I think we are going to have to see a lot more before the FBS conferences pull the plug on football. They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. A season without football will be highly damaging to the athletic departments. I think when they see these pro sports leagues playing they will feel comfortable enough to give it a go.
Pro and college sports are two completely different things. Contracts guarantee stuff on Pro Sports. They only guarantee the conferences in college. Idk
Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 27, 2020, 12:00:46 AM
Please bear in mind I may have had a single beer tonight
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 27, 2020, 12:31:12 AM
Pros aren't expected to be regular students. But I agree the major colleges at least will wait until the very last possible minute to shut it down. I mean didn't the big east shut down a game literally at halftime?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on June 27, 2020, 12:49:04 AM
... They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. ...

hold our beer...
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 27, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
Dude, if a single NCAA dies from COVID-19 there will be a huge reform on how we compensate college athletes. Ain't no way you can convince any rational person that college athletes should be asked to risk their lives for a goddamn scholarship.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on June 27, 2020, 02:03:09 PM
Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on June 27, 2020, 02:23:18 PM
Teams aren’t going to pull schollies if a kid doesn’t want to risk getting Covid.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 27, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
In FY 2019, K-State Football Generated $57.593 million in total operating revenue for K-State athletics.

That is 64% of K-State's total operating revenue for FY 2019.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 28, 2020, 12:03:55 AM
Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?

Are they being forced to be up close to others who might have COVID-19?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on June 28, 2020, 12:09:53 AM
Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?

Are they being forced to be up close to others who might have COVID-19?
If KSU doesn’t do entirely online learning, then yes.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 28, 2020, 12:20:55 AM
Do you feel the same about those on academic scholarship?

Are they being forced to be up close to others who might have COVID-19?
If KSU doesn’t do entirely online learning, then yes.

Really? Other students are asked to rub their sweaty bodies against others' sweaty bodies?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on June 28, 2020, 12:24:44 AM
Do you have, like, any idea about how coronavirus is spread?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 28, 2020, 12:28:37 AM
Does anyone?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on June 28, 2020, 02:26:36 PM
I think we are going to have to see a lot more before the FBS conferences pull the plug on football. They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. A season without football will be highly damaging to the athletic departments. I think when they see these pro sports leagues playing they will feel comfortable enough to give it a go.
Pro and college sports are two completely different things. Contracts guarantee stuff on Pro Sports. They only guarantee the conferences in college. Idk

That wasn't my point, I'm talking about operationally.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on June 29, 2020, 08:54:49 AM
It seems like it’s gonna trickle out and the NCAA will eventually pull the plug on the season right before it starts. I mean think about the evolution of how the conference hoops tourneys went. The news just kept getting wilder and wilder until ultimately #BigCovid stole KU’s opportunity to compete for the championship out of their rightful hands. 

Btw if by some reason we actually get to play a basketball season but they have to close tge arenas to fans and broadcast games online so we can watch, we better call it Octagon of Zoom lolololol lmao roflmao lolfartbbq

skeebs this post did not get enough attention i l'dmao great stuff
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 29, 2020, 02:57:35 PM
Level 7
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Post by: PurpleOil on June 29, 2020, 08:22:03 PM
... They are deathly afraid to run these athletic departments without football revenue. ...

hold our beer...

I laughed
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Post by: steve dave on June 30, 2020, 02:52:36 PM
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1278048569472233473
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Post by: DQ12 on June 30, 2020, 03:04:03 PM
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1278048569472233473
I find this pretty unlikely, but then again, I'm not a computer science professor.
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Post by: Spracne on June 30, 2020, 03:08:28 PM
https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1278048569472233473
I find this pretty unlikely, but then again, I'm not a computer science professor.
Lol
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Post by: Stevesie60 on June 30, 2020, 03:09:30 PM
lol
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Post by: catastrophe on June 30, 2020, 03:27:20 PM
lol
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
7 is .1% of scholarship players so yeah that seems very likely  :dunno:
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Post by: DQ12 on June 30, 2020, 04:07:59 PM
7 is .1% of scholarship players so yeah that seems very likely  :dunno:
We're going on 2.7 million reported cases so far. Let's say reporteds are 20 percent of actual (which is pretty conservative imo), which puts our actual infection number at 13.5 million.  Let's assume 10 percent of those are in the 15-24 demographic for which we have death totals from the CDC -- which again is pretty conservative given demographics and behavior.

That would put us at about 1.35 million infections for 15-24 year olds.  CDC says 132 deaths so far for 15-24 year olds.  132/1.35m=.0001 of actual infections result in death for 15-24 year olds.

Let's assume 100 players per team and 128 teams = 12800 players.  Let's assume 80 percent of CFB players get Covid (pretty aggressive estimation) = 10,240 infections of CFB players. 

10240*.0001=~1 covid death out of 12800 players.  This assumes CFB players carry the same risks and benefits as the general public and assumes my (what I view as overly conservative) assumptions above are reasonable.

In my defense I'm not a scientist and I never advanced past college algebra and there's a very good chance I screwed up these numbers.
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Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
I only used p5 teams, expanding to fbs makes it even more likely  :Wha:
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Post by: DQ12 on June 30, 2020, 04:48:24 PM
I only used p5 teams, expanding to fbs makes it even more likely  :Wha:
:surprised:
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Post by: KST8FAN on June 30, 2020, 05:42:12 PM
Whats the math one of the 60+ year old o line coaches getting covid and dying?


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on June 30, 2020, 06:19:43 PM
Nearly 100%
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Post by: KITNfury on June 30, 2020, 07:56:34 PM
I'm not advocating putting dollar values on lives, but it happens every day on virtually every place on the planet.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 30, 2020, 08:17:01 PM
The only person this college football season isn’t for, is Mangino and that former Minnesota coach who was somehow part of K-State for a minute and I know this is a real thing, but come on....
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 30, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
Maybe Urban Meyer too, if he’s done faking illnesses (I kid) to transfer to superior programs before the crap hits the fan (again).
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on June 30, 2020, 09:16:42 PM
I'm not advocating putting dollar values on lives, but it happens every day on virtually every place on the planet.

I didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 30, 2020, 10:04:30 PM
No athlete that we know of has died from it. Doesn’t mean I’m saying we shouldn’t be concerned from it, but do we hide in bunkers at this point? It’s definitely here. Cancel the season? Because most athletes have been asymptotic!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2020, 08:57:25 AM
https://twitter.com/HenryBushnell/status/1278320513073516545

I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 01, 2020, 10:37:13 AM
The only person this college football season isn’t for, is Mangino and that former Minnesota coach who was somehow part of K-State for a minute and I know this is a real thing, but come on....

Jerry Kill is now sweaty gary's OC. Jerry Kill is the most overrated coach in football history, however, luckily epilepsy doesn't lead to a compromised immune system.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2020, 10:38:38 AM
Kill actually already got covid

https://twitter.com/DWStraka49/status/1277788812521897987
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 01, 2020, 10:42:46 AM
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry.   Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.   

In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare. 

Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff.   At least some % of capacity in the stadium.   Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.   

If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.   



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 01, 2020, 10:50:46 AM
No athlete that we know of has died from it. Doesn’t mean I’m saying we shouldn’t be concerned from it, but do we hide in bunkers at this point? It’s definitely here. Cancel the season? Because most athletes have been asymptotic!

Worth noting that with younger people getting sick, the numbers of younger people dying will go way up. Not all of these football players are in tip top shape, especially given they've been home for 3 months. Here's the story of a triathlete nearly dying, I'm guessing the number of college football players who can run a triathlon is incredibly low.

https://m.startribune.com/minnesota-man-is-an-ironman-covid-19-nearly-killed-him/569761222/

Look at this article, we weren't even a month into distancing when this article was published. This was back when the worldwide average for age of death from coronavirus was literally 78.

I guess what I'm saying is I think the data we have about deaths of younger people will need to be revisited as the average age of contraction dives sharply.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-coronavirus-deaths/
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Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2020, 10:51:53 AM
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry.   Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.   

In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare. 

Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff.   At least some % of capacity in the stadium.   Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.   

If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.
Agree with dax here


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 01, 2020, 10:56:13 AM
No athlete that we know of has died from it. Doesn’t mean I’m saying we shouldn’t be concerned from it, but do we hide in bunkers at this point? It’s definitely here. Cancel the season? Because most athletes have been asymptotic!

Worth noting that with younger people getting sick, the numbers of younger people dying will go way up. Not all of these football players are in tip top shape, especially given they've been home for 3 months. Here's the story of a triathlete nearly dying, I'm guessing the number of college football players who can run a triathlon is incredibly low.

https://m.startribune.com/minnesota-man-is-an-ironman-covid-19-nearly-killed-him/569761222/

Look at this article, we weren't even a month into distancing when this article was published. This was back when the worldwide average for age of death from coronavirus was literally 78.

I guess what I'm saying is I think the data we have about deaths of younger people will need to be revisited as the average age of contraction dives sharply.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/08/young-people-coronavirus-deaths/
Good points.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 01, 2020, 10:58:18 AM
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry.   Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.   

In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare. 

Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff.   At least some % of capacity in the stadium.   Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.   

If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.
Agree with dax here


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I believe this was addressed when all spring sports were cancelled.

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As for the appropriate academic environment for sports to begin, Emmert said: “College athletes are college students, and you can’t have college sports if you don’t have college (campuses) open and having students on them. You don’t want to ever put student-athletes at greater risk than the rest of the student body.”

In Division I, he said, “all of the commissioners and every president that I’ve talked to is in clear agreement: If you don’t have students on campus, you don’t have student-athletes on campus.

“That doesn’t mean it has to be up and running in the full normal model, but you’ve got to treat the health and well-being of the athletes at least as much as the regular students. So if a school doesn’t reopen, then they’re not going to be playing sports. It’s really that simple.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2020/05/08/coronavirus-mark-emmert-college-sports-return-students-campus/3100733001/

Maybe they've changed their tune after a couple months.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on July 01, 2020, 11:01:01 AM
We talk about deaths almost exclusively, but it sounds like there is some potential for long term respiratory problems even for people who recover.  If there is any validity to that it certainly calls into question the  "just get it now" idea.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2020, 11:04:23 AM
when children get RSV as infants it messes with them for the entire time they are growing up. whenever they get a cough it's much worse and barky and they are susceptible to worse breathing issues from other viruses and infections. Is it like that or is it just like you can't breath as good all the time?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on July 01, 2020, 11:16:04 AM
Limited info available.  No one is really "long-term" on a new disease yet, but it sounds like it is likely going to affect more severe cases, as one would expect.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-some-patients-may-suffer-lasting-lung-damage

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/what-coronavirus-does-to-the-lungs

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 01, 2020, 02:43:46 PM
I don't get why playing football and having only online classes is even a worry.   Tons of athletes pretending to be students only take online classes (where somebody else does the work) as it stands now.   

In addition, there's a growing body of evidence that transmission in outdoor settings is very rare. 

Controlled environment of football team surrounded by medical staff.   At least some % of capacity in the stadium.   Just not gonna be able to have that Ahearn Steak Fry and people in the WSC are gonna have to mask up and social distance, hang out in their suite or box area only and not just walk around all over the place.   

If the dimwits would have masked up 8 weeks ago, we'd probably be LOL'ing about all of this by now.
Agree with dax here


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I believe this was addressed when all spring sports were cancelled.

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As for the appropriate academic environment for sports to begin, Emmert said: “College athletes are college students, and you can’t have college sports if you don’t have college (campuses) open and having students on them. You don’t want to ever put student-athletes at greater risk than the rest of the student body.”

In Division I, he said, “all of the commissioners and every president that I’ve talked to is in clear agreement: If you don’t have students on campus, you don’t have student-athletes on campus.

“That doesn’t mean it has to be up and running in the full normal model, but you’ve got to treat the health and well-being of the athletes at least as much as the regular students. So if a school doesn’t reopen, then they’re not going to be playing sports. It’s really that simple.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2020/05/08/coronavirus-mark-emmert-college-sports-return-students-campus/3100733001/

Maybe they've changed their tune after a couple months.

They may have to change their tune and also Emmert is forever going to have to battle the modern day perceptions of the student athlete experience . . . and that starts with the billion dollar plus, private jet owning enterprise known as the NCAA.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 01, 2020, 07:23:16 PM
i'm not saying i know the reward of playing college football outweighs the risk of it but i'm always amazed how many football players complain about being a football player in college but spent their entire life and most of their parent's income working their tails off and sacrificing so much to be a college football player. only to bitch about it after they attain their hard earned goal. if it was so bad why are millions of kids doing everything possible for so many years to continue to try to be something that sucks so bad? why dont the current players tell the high school kids how bad it is so they won't have to be miserable either?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 01, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
If there's not a vaccine or some cure, college students at campus will be a disaster.  With these kids sucking and rough ridin' everything in sight, the college and town will be a bunch of sick puppies. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on July 01, 2020, 11:42:15 PM
I didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.

absolutely.

I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September

i think the idea that there might be a college football season without on campus classes is completely delusional and i think having a normal semester with students on campus would put faculty, staff and townies at much increased risk.

far more worried about 20k students in mhk from august-december than 100 college football players, no matter what those players are asked to do.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on July 01, 2020, 11:45:22 PM
https://twitter.com/HenryBushnell/status/1278320513073516545

fwiw, a lot of the doctors, epidemiologists and virologists i follow have been dunking all over that study.  or at least the way it has been reported in the popular media.
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Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2020, 06:41:24 AM
I didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.

absolutely.

I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September

i think the idea that there might be a college football season without on campus classes is completely delusional and i think having a normal semester with students on campus would put faculty, staff and townies at much increased risk.

far more worried about 20k students in mhk from august-december than 100 college football players, no matter what those players are asked to do.
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Post by: KST8FAN on July 02, 2020, 11:15:51 AM
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/usc-reverts-back-to-online-classes-for-fall-semester-a-month-after-announcing-students-would-return-to-campus/


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ksuchris2000 on July 02, 2020, 11:59:36 AM
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/usc-reverts-back-to-online-classes-for-fall-semester-a-month-after-announcing-students-would-return-to-campus/


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Interesting. USC is a private school and can somewhat make its own rules with respect to online classes, having athletes on campus, and keeping athletic schedules. I have a feeling the public schools are going to be a bit more restrictive.
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Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2020, 01:28:45 PM
I didn't read the article but I'd be more concerned with how many non-football players die as a result of a season and full-blown semester for all students.

absolutely.

I wonder how sys feels about increasing the odds of his dad dying of covid so his favorite football team is more competitive in September

i think the idea that there might be a college football season without on campus classes is completely delusional and i think having a normal semester with students on campus would put faculty, staff and townies at much increased risk.

far more worried about 20k students in mhk from august-december than 100 college football players, no matter what those players are asked to do.

agree 100%. I honestly think college sports are the only ones that are at risk of not coming back at all this year because their return is tied to 20k students congregating.. Professionals can realistically bubble and high schools don't rely on people congregating from all over the country and can be cancelled locally. HS sports also don't have the financial pressure to play - I'm guessing most districts would save money w/o sports.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 02, 2020, 02:16:45 PM
There is no way they can have fans in the stadiums at this point.  I suppose the TV money is still big enough to motivate them to pursuing playing this fall, as crazy as that sounds.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2020, 02:18:52 PM
There is no way they can have fans in the stadiums at this point.  I suppose the TV money is still big enough to motivate them to pursuing playing this fall, as crazy as that sounds.

if there's no fans in stadiums, how can you justify having on-campus instruction (potentially higher risk depending on the circumstances)? If there's no on-campus instruction, how can you justify playing football at all?
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Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2020, 05:04:36 PM
A lot of people are speculating on a lot of things already covered in the first post of this thread


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2020, 05:12:16 PM
A lot of people are speculating on a lot of things already covered in the first post of this thread


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It seems like a lot of folks involved with making decisions regarding college football in 2020 have yet to read it
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 02, 2020, 07:04:42 PM
See y'all in 2021, it's gonna be lit. How will the schools support essentially six classes of scholarshipped athletes?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 03, 2020, 12:07:38 PM
https://twitter.com/kuhawkzone/status/1279098065618636801


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 03, 2020, 02:44:53 PM
See y'all in 2021, it's gonna be lit. How will the schools support essentially six classes of scholarshipped athletes?

That's a really good question.
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on July 03, 2020, 02:51:35 PM
eff'em   :dunno:
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Post by: michigancat on July 06, 2020, 10:56:25 AM
Ivy League gonna vote on pushing football to spring

https://twitter.com/CoachSamz/status/1280158756857356292
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 06, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
related

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 06, 2020, 11:06:47 AM
related

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
I’m not sure how you can justify keeping tuition the same with purely online courses. I would be rough ridin' pissed.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 06, 2020, 11:17:17 AM
related

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756

https://twitter.com/MikePavlichko/status/1280130955043373056
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 06, 2020, 11:22:36 AM
Johns Hopkins guy said we've got another 18 months of this minimum, no matter what we or any country does.   Outbreaks and hotspots can and will occur anywhere, and cannot be stopped outside of a total lock down of pretty much everything.

Take away:  Wear a mask, socially distance, protect the most vulnerable.



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Post by: michigancat on July 06, 2020, 11:33:11 AM
related

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
I’m not sure how you can justify keeping tuition the same with purely online courses. I would be rough ridin' pissed.

what's kinda crazy is they're still inviting 40% of undergrads to campus (but they will still have all their classes online)

https://www.fas.harvard.edu/fas-decision-2020-2021-academic-year
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Post by: steve dave on July 06, 2020, 11:38:33 AM
MD will call it soon as well


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 06, 2020, 12:25:24 PM
Let’s just push everything to the spring so I can go to my once every four years Morgantown PAKfest.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 06, 2020, 01:00:29 PM
What happens to schedules if the NCAA and/or NFL cancel the whole season? Do they just keep everything the same but play the games a year later? I really want revenge against Vandy, and the Chefs are playing in NOLA this year.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 07, 2020, 11:28:40 AM
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An anonymous FBS commissioner told ESPN's Heather Dinich that he is "very concerned" about the possibility of a delayed or canceled season.

"I'm still hopeful that we have college football, I'm just more pessimistic that we won't have it on time," the commissioner explained. "I don't see us starting on time at this point. One day I thought, 'I better look at the calendar,' because I felt like it was March 11 again." This is a refrain we have seen repeatedly in the world of college football -- that it feels as though we're back in March, when the coronavirus pandemic first began to shut sports down. The NCAA is charging ahead with its six-week practice plan, which started in earnest for Week 0 teams on Monday. But even beyond the anonymous commish cited, here, we're seeing growing concern over just how realistic -- or unrealistic -- a fall campaign might be. AAC commissioner Mike Aresco brought up one angle of obvious concern, saying, "It's very unlikely that we would play fall sports -- highly unlikely we would play fall sports -- if we didn't have our students back on campus," while WVU AD Shane Lyons (who chairs the Football Oversight Committee) said it simply enough: "For us in college sports and sports in general, it's not trending the way we were hoping it would."

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29419645/concerned-power-5-leaders-remain-wait-see-mode-start-college-football
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on July 07, 2020, 12:03:57 PM
the sport is in good hands with these all star administrators
everything was fine until the athletes they represent needed them to do something other than make ass loads of $ and glad hand anyone and everyone
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 07, 2020, 12:57:24 PM
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country.   I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.

In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity.    But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom.   So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 07, 2020, 01:39:26 PM
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country.   I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.

In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity.    But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom.   So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.

Yeah, pretty much. The people who bitch about masks are going to be the people who bitch the most about no football.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 07, 2020, 01:40:03 PM
the sport is in good hands with these all star administrators
everything was fine until the athletes they represent needed them to do something other than make ass loads of $ and glad hand anyone and everyone

Yes :emawkid:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 07, 2020, 01:58:20 PM
i guess the assumption is that college athletes will behave similarly to regular college students which is reasonable. and maybe a few football players dont even really want to play in the middle of a pandemic.
but there are some very specific guidelines and behaviors that have been proven to work remarkably well at keeping the virus away. if the players wear masks in public. social distance . and somewhat isolate themselves for the first semester there would be a good chance to limit the infections in the program.
what are the chances of getting college athletes to behave properly? idk
most infections are a result of high risk activities. avoid high risk places and the risk goes down considerably.
what we're seeing nationally is a result of kids participating in high risk activities. reign that in, if possible, and things get considerably better again
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2020, 02:39:32 PM
I hold college athletes to the same expectations I hold all other college kids when it comes to this, very low.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on July 07, 2020, 02:51:19 PM
it doesn't matter if every student athlete was maintained in complete isolation and was also immune.  if the rest of students are virusing as they inevitably would if universities held on-campus instruction, college football is off.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 07, 2020, 04:04:05 PM
The Texas State Fair got cancelled, fwiw.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 07, 2020, 05:35:18 PM
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country.   I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.

In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity.    But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom.   So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.

Agreed.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 05:39:50 PM
Gonna have outdoor bathrooms and concession stands and clubs? What about all the domed stadiums?

I can see the NFL doing what the soccer leagues are doing, there won't be fans. No rough ridin' way.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 05:40:12 PM
Gonna have outdoor bathrooms and concession stands and clubs? What about all the domed stadiums?

I can see the NFL doing what the soccer leagues are doing, there won't be fans. No rough ridin' way.
And obviously there won't be college football in 2020 lol
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 07, 2020, 05:40:25 PM
No way fans can be there.  There's no rough ridin' way.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 07, 2020, 05:41:23 PM
They could have the season if they lifted ameteurism, right?  :fatty:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 07, 2020, 05:46:11 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 05:46:27 PM
They could have the season if they lifted ameteurism, right?  :fatty:
I think that's the only way, at least if more schools cancel in-person classes
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 07, 2020, 05:53:48 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 05:56:53 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

Well yeah they could do it but it wouldn't be smart. Haven't been to BSFS in a while but 20k at A's games still leads to a lot larger and tighter crowds than you'd ever see in a typical restaurant because 20 thousand people are all moving and congregating at basically the same times. (I know it's an old shitty stadium but still).

An outbreak at a college or NFL game beyond something like the 85 cases at that Lansing bar would be a PR disaster.

(Also full capacity indoor dining probably isn't the best idea yet, either)
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 07, 2020, 06:07:44 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.

The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2020, 06:16:22 PM
Oh crap, they solved this thing


https://twitter.com/bdavisaas/status/1280641622787739648


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 06:28:34 PM
Oh crap, they solved this thing


https://twitter.com/bdavisaas/status/1280641622787739648


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on July 07, 2020, 06:56:22 PM
Oh crap, they solved this thing


https://twitter.com/bdavisaas/status/1280641622787739648


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We’d better still be able to shove our spaceship down a Jayhawks throat at home though
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2020, 07:02:45 PM
What is even the point if there are no hot cheerleaders?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2020, 07:06:06 PM
Cheerleaders in masks could maybe be kinky for some people if that's your kinda thing.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 07, 2020, 07:06:22 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
And there is not much point of having fans if they’re not going to be yelling, which outside of maybe sneezing or coughing has to be the best way to spread coronavirus.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 07:27:30 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.
And there is not much point of having fans if they’re not going to be yelling, which outside of maybe sneezing or coughing has to be the best way to spread coronavirus.
Another problem is it's gathering people from across the region, intermingling, and sending them all home to spread it to their communities. It's just encourages people to travel who probably wouldn't have otherwise.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 07, 2020, 07:48:43 PM
wearing masks reduces transmission tremendously. are you guys assuming people won't wear masks? if they make it a mandate it will greatly reduce the risk of transmission when walking by each other and congregating in bathrooms. some studies show greater than 90% reduction in transmission when all parties are masked
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 08:20:32 PM
Even if you reduce transmission by 90% you are increasing crowd size by what - around 100x what you typically have seen to date? Not sure how that math works out

And yeah, I would expect mask compliance to be well under 100%
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 07, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
Cheerleaders in masks could maybe be kinky for some people if that's your kinda thing.

 :Jeffy:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 07, 2020, 09:24:23 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.

The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.

So a "Fraction" equals 2.5M cases (with Russia and Eastern Europe massively under counted), and 200K deaths?  Interesting.





 

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 07, 2020, 09:25:02 PM
related

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756
I’m not sure how you can justify keeping tuition the same with purely online courses. I would be rough ridin' pissed.

what's kinda crazy is they're still inviting 40% of undergrads to campus (but they will still have all their classes online)

https://www.fas.harvard.edu/fas-decision-2020-2021-academic-year

That's because they want full occupancy of their dorms, cause money.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on July 07, 2020, 09:25:38 PM
i am going to massively under report you to the site moderator
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on July 07, 2020, 09:26:21 PM
if this doesn't bring back the willie skits, then I don't know what will
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 07, 2020, 09:33:04 PM
If we don't have college/NFL football then I don't think it will be a reach to say that a good portion of the football watching demographic will be too blame and that goes straight to the top of the country.   I am speaking in regard to doing some very simple things.

In outdoor setting, there's really no reason why we couldn't have at least 50% capacity.    But we have a lot of dipshits who are gonna likely ensure none of it happens because they think a mask is an affront to their personal freedom.   So, when it's more re-runs this fall they can go eff themselves.

I don't think that matters if the college kids can't stop sucking and rough ridin' everything in sight.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 07, 2020, 10:05:43 PM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.

The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.

So a "Fraction" equals 2.5M cases (with Russia and Eastern Europe massively under counted), and 200K deaths?  Interesting.

I don't believe any of the countries you have in mind have started sports leagues yet.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 07, 2020, 10:06:23 PM
Even if you reduce transmission by 90% you are increasing crowd size by what - around 100x what you typically have seen to date? Not sure how that math works out

And yeah, I would expect mask compliance to be well under 100%
i dont think we know. i haven't seen or heard any epidemiologist attribute much of this virus increase to all the protesters gathering around the country the last month. they attribute that to a lot of protesters using masks. it appears a lot of the hotspots are restaurants, bars, and large family gatherings often indoors. if we excluded cases of the virus that were found to occur during indoor activity there wouldn't be a lot of infections. Fact is, outside transmission is not considered to be a key contributor in this pandemic.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on July 07, 2020, 10:46:30 PM
related

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1280165513264586756

:ksu:

https://www.kmbc.com/amp/article/k-state-students-sue-university-for-refund-on-tuition-fees/33236104
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 07, 2020, 10:50:27 PM
I love our enterprising students.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 07, 2020, 10:52:35 PM
Really taking it on the nose this year.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2020, 10:58:55 PM
Even if you reduce transmission by 90% you are increasing crowd size by what - around 100x what you typically have seen to date? Not sure how that math works out

And yeah, I would expect mask compliance to be well under 100%
i dont think we know. i haven't seen or heard any epidemiologist attribute much of this virus increase to all the protesters gathering around the country the last month. they attribute that to a lot of protesters using masks. it appears a lot of the hotspots are restaurants, bars, and large family gatherings often indoors. if we excluded cases of the virus that were found to occur during indoor activity there wouldn't be a lot of infections. Fact is, outside transmission is not considered to be a key contributor in this pandemic.

attending a college football or NFL game isn't an exclusively outdoor activity. most stadiums aren't as open as BSFS, and even then you have restrooms and clubs that are absolutely not outdoors. I suppose you could close those down but then what's the point?

and yeah we haven't seen mass transmissions at sporting events but have seen them at bars and restaurants and church services because there haven't been any with fans anywhere in the world since March (at least on the scale of a half full BSFS)
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2020, 08:40:58 AM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

There are other logistical issues that could prevent that (ie the actual players), but in terms of fans - an outdoor stadium with lots of room between people seems very similar to spending the day at a public park.

Still creates lost of opportunities for congregation (e.g. bathrooms, concessions, unrestricted parking lot behavior, etc.).  Seems like it would be a PR problem at the least.

The European leagues that have been running for nearly two months now and have a fraction of the cases we do still aren't open to fans. Having fans at reduced capacity was a best case scenario until a vaccine is readily available, we screwed that up. We're at the point where this should be the hope for pro sports next spring.

So a "Fraction" equals 2.5M cases (with Russia and Eastern Europe massively under counted), and 200K deaths?  Interesting.

I don't believe any of the countries you have in mind have started sports leagues yet.

What I had in mind was the EU/UK/Russia/Eastern Europe.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 08, 2020, 10:35:23 AM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

Well yeah they could do it but it wouldn't be smart. Haven't been to BSFS in a while but 20k at A's games still leads to a lot larger and tighter crowds than you'd ever see in a typical restaurant because 20 thousand people are all moving and congregating at basically the same times. (I know it's an old shitty stadium but still).

An outbreak at a college or NFL game beyond something like the 85 cases at that Lansing bar would be a PR disaster.

(Also full capacity indoor dining probably isn't the best idea yet, either)
have you seen BSFS when there's 20k people there?  Hell, let's call it 17,500, an even third.  Require masks.  Let families sit together, space everyone else out in every 4th or 5th seat.  Encourage people to social distance in bathrooms. 

i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 08, 2020, 10:41:29 AM
They could absolutely do a reduced capacity/mask thing. If indoor restaurants are open, there is no good reason they couldn’t do 20k at arrowhead/BSFS.

Well yeah they could do it but it wouldn't be smart. Haven't been to BSFS in a while but 20k at A's games still leads to a lot larger and tighter crowds than you'd ever see in a typical restaurant because 20 thousand people are all moving and congregating at basically the same times. (I know it's an old shitty stadium but still).

An outbreak at a college or NFL game beyond something like the 85 cases at that Lansing bar would be a PR disaster.

(Also full capacity indoor dining probably isn't the best idea yet, either)
have you seen BSFS when there's 20k people there?  Hell, let's call it 17,500, an even third.  Require masks.  Let families sit together, space everyone else out in every 4th or 5th seat.  Encourage people to social distance in bathrooms. 

i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

Yep
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2020, 10:45:00 AM
Do what the gyms are doing. Take temps of the attendees and if they're not sick, let them in.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 08, 2020, 10:49:23 AM
At 17500 people, the halftime bathroom break would essentially be the equivalent to what a restaurant is like rn, except instead of people sitting around talking and eating without masks for an hour+, people would just be wearing their masks and doing their deal in the bathroom for 2 or 3 minutes.

i also don't know if a one size fits all approach would be necessary.  i don't know why Idaho/syracuse (with their domes) would necessarily need the same requirements as K-State.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2020, 10:57:38 AM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 08, 2020, 11:01:45 AM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment?  the economics may not work out, but if they do work out - then i think it makes sense to infuse some cash so that we can minimize the negative effects that non-revenue generating sports will suffer (and boy are those going to suffer).
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2020, 11:12:52 AM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment? 

I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.

I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 08, 2020, 11:16:04 AM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment? 

I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.

I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
Also the industry that funds tens of thousands of scholarships for non-profit generating athletes, along with employing tens of thousands of people.

Moreover, I'm not suggesting anyone step in to "save" college ADs, I'm suggesting letting college ADs operate reasonably and allow a relatively low risk way to get some cash. 

Again, this conversation is academic because CFB ain't happening.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 08, 2020, 12:22:56 PM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment? 

I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.

I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
if the pros dont go then yes it would be a bad look for colleges. but we dont have that answer yet. and we dont have an answer as to how much risk the athletes are putting into their communities either. they are a very minor portion of the overall student population. i dont think the network money is small potatoes. We still have 7 weeks until season starts. lets see how the teams infection rates look in mid august after practicing for a few weeks face to face. and lets continue to monitor recoveries. and i'm all for taking player opinions into account. we need a system that allows players to sit out without repercussions
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2020, 01:30:14 PM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment? 

I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.

I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
if the pros dont go then yes it would be a bad look for colleges. but we dont have that answer yet. and we dont have an answer as to how much risk the athletes are putting into their communities either. they are a very minor portion of the overall student population. i dont think the network money is small potatoes. We still have 7 weeks until season starts. lets see how the teams infection rates look in mid august after practicing for a few weeks face to face. and lets continue to monitor recoveries. and i'm all for taking player opinions into account. we need a system that allows players to sit out without repercussions

FWIW I'm not worried about playing games. I think reopening colleges this fall is a bad idea but playing football doesn't make it any worse if they're open. crowds of 20k might though.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2020, 02:56:24 PM
They should just play the football season in the spring with full capacity crowds. Put the vaccine makers on the clock.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2020, 02:59:28 PM
https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/1280916132401000448
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2020, 03:06:19 PM
We should also use spring football as an excuse to shorten the season by 2 games, eliminate all bowl games, and expand the playoffs to 32 teams.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2020, 03:08:14 PM
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1280955217677344770


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on July 08, 2020, 03:11:54 PM
https://twitter.com/mercnews/status/1280916132401000448

LOL at mercury news photoshop'n a bunch of taco bells around that tower I presume is an actual thing on stanford's campus.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2020, 03:12:52 PM
https://twitter.com/danaoneilwriter/status/1280957889507704832


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2020, 03:19:42 PM
I trust Dana more than the this is march guy
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 08, 2020, 03:45:57 PM
i just don't think there's much of a risk of transmission in that setting -- at least no more than in a restaurant, train station, or city street.  i don't think CFB is going to happen anyway, but a reduced capacity situation seems basically harmless to me, relative to everything else that's allowed.

it depends on the exact setup (with concessions, security, bathrooms, and other indoor spaces), but it's certainly higher risk than any city street and most train stations in the US these days, but yeah I can see it being comparable to restaurants depending on the details. There are also unknowns like weather delays which could throw a wrench into things.

Most importantly, it's a completely unnecessary risk for the revenue.
because college athletic departments are flush with cash at the moment? 

I was thinking more along the lines that college athletic departments are about the last industry that needs to be saved plus you can do the whole "how many deaths is 7 games of limited revenue worth?" exercise plus the possible PR/financial fallout if a superspreading event occurs.

I mean, the industry that exploits unpaid athletes for "profit" putting its community at risk to squeeze out as much revenue as possible when actual for-profit leagues around the world are not is not a good look
if the pros dont go then yes it would be a bad look for colleges. but we dont have that answer yet. and we dont have an answer as to how much risk the athletes are putting into their communities either. they are a very minor portion of the overall student population. i dont think the network money is small potatoes. We still have 7 weeks until season starts. lets see how the teams infection rates look in mid august after practicing for a few weeks face to face. and lets continue to monitor recoveries. and i'm all for taking player opinions into account. we need a system that allows players to sit out without repercussions

FWIW I'm not worried about playing games. I think reopening colleges this fall is a bad idea but playing football doesn't make it any worse if they're open. crowds of 20k might though.
i think the use of online with social distanced classroom work and mandatory masks could work for college attendance. i dont know how they are going to house everyone though. dorms and greek houses are overcrowded to begin with. and tests cost $100 each
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 08, 2020, 05:41:39 PM
Do what the gyms are doing. Take temps of the attendees and if they're not sick, let them in.

These businesses that take temperatures is the most maddeningly dumb thing I've ever seen, it's like wearing a bubble jacket as a bulletproof vest. I'm so glad my gym stopped doing it.
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Post by: DQ12 on July 08, 2020, 05:44:06 PM
Do what the gyms are doing. Take temps of the attendees and if they're not sick, let them in.

These businesses that take temperatures is the most maddeningly dumb thing I've ever seen, it's like wearing a bubble jacket as a bulletproof vest. I'm so glad my gym stopped doing it.
Our office has a thermometer at our receptionist's desk but nobody really uses it except for me.  She and I have a game where I guess my temperature whenever I walk past her desk.  I've become very good at it. 
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Post by: wetwillie on July 08, 2020, 05:52:51 PM
It does nothing to prevent asymptomatic spreaders but I suppose it is just CYA.
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Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2020, 05:59:08 PM
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea
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Post by: Pete on July 08, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea

I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 08, 2020, 08:13:17 PM
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea

I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.

Exactly. Also if I'm not mistaken, you can be symptomatic and a fever not be one of the immediate symptoms.
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Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2020, 08:17:40 PM


Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea

I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.

I don't think that's any different from masks or the six foot distancing guidelines. Neither of those prevent infections but they both help a lot. Temperature checks aren't right for every situation but they're still pretty useful.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 08, 2020, 09:12:39 PM
Temperature checks would for sure stop some symptomatic spreaders. Weird to think they're a bad idea

I think the push back is that it may tempt folks to think that it's sufficient.
That was among the excuses not to promote mask wearing and it set us back big time.

Anything we do to follow what the East Asian countries are doing I’m all for (as long as it’s not violating any personal liberties obv).
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on July 08, 2020, 10:51:46 PM
Need to require rectal temperature to weed out the fair weather fans.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2020, 02:54:07 PM
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1281308519808065542


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 09, 2020, 03:47:56 PM
https://twitter.com/joeyrkaufman/status/1281326864687038466
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Post by: ben ji on July 09, 2020, 04:46:59 PM
I assume the big12 and SEC are just gonna YOLO and play a couple of games then shut it down when players/coaches start dropping like flies?

If K-State is undefeated whenever they cancel the season I am claiming the 2020 Natty for the katz.
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Post by: ben ji on July 09, 2020, 04:47:26 PM
Also props to SD for scooping this back in April
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Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2020, 04:51:09 PM
https://twitter.com/crafty_consumer/status/1281311125884358656


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on July 09, 2020, 05:20:03 PM
Lol

https://twitter.com/alex_kirshner/status/1281342221082648576
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Post by: Pete on July 09, 2020, 05:48:16 PM
Frost has to be very relieved.  I know he wants to get back to a bowl game, but I betcha he wants to not go 0-3 in the non-con even more.

Ohio State

Sept. 6 vs. Bowling Green
Sept. 12 at Oregon
Sept. 19 vs. Buffalo


Penn State

Sept. 5 vs. Kent State
Sept. 12 at Virginia Tech
Sept. 19 vs. San Jose State


Wisconsin

Sept. 12 vs. Southern Illinois
Sept. 19 vs. Appalachian State
Oct. 3 at Notre Dame


Michigan

Sept. 5 at Washington
Sept. 12 vs. Ball State
Sept. 19 vs. Arkansas State


Minnesota

Sept. 3 vs. Florida Atlantic
Sept. 12 vs. Tennessee Tech
Sept. 26 vs. BYU


Iowa

Sept. 5 vs. Northern Iowa
Sept. 12 vs. Iowa State
Sept. 26 vs. Northern Illinois


Michigan State

Sept. 12 at BYU
Sept. 19 vs. Toledo
Sept. 26 vs. Miami (FL.)


Indiana

Sept. 12 vs. Western Kentucky
Sept. 19 vs. Ball State
Sept. 26 at UConn


Nebraska

Sept. 12 vs. Central Michigan
Sept. 19 vs. South Dakota State
Sept. 26 vs. Cincinnati


Purdue

Sept. 12 vs. Memphis
Sept. 19 vs. Air Force
Sept. 26 at Boston College


Northwestern

Sept. 12 vs. Tulane
Sept. 19 vs. Central Michigan
Nov. 14 vs. Morgan State


Illinois

Sept. 4 vs. Illinois State
Sept. 12 vs. UConn
Sept. 19 vs. Bowling Green


Maryland


Sept. 5 vs. Towson
Sept. 12 vs. Northern Illinois
Sept. 19 at West Virginia


Rutgers

Sept. 5 vs. Monmouth
Sept. 12 vs. Syracuse
Sept. 19 at Temple
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on July 09, 2020, 07:10:11 PM
Just cancel the season already and save everyone the time. Punishment we deserve for being lead by the biggest moron OAT and enough dumbasses in our population to follow that.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2020, 07:50:14 PM
The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.


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Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2020, 07:50:48 PM
Also props to SD for scooping this back in April
Thank you, I am extraordinarily prescient and modest.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on July 09, 2020, 07:53:31 PM
The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.


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Big 10 already stopped the NCAA tournament basically by doing it first, why not us this time?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 09, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
I'm really pissed me and the buds won't have season 3 of college fantasy football this year  :frown:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 09, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.


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Agreed. Playing only conference games makes no sense as a middle ground.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 09, 2020, 08:53:55 PM
 :rolleyes:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2020, 08:58:52 PM
The Big 12 needs to announce that they are playing no 2020 football and neither is anyone else.


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Agreed. Playing only conference games makes no sense as a middle ground.
Nope. Regional play makes sense.
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Post by: catastrophe on July 09, 2020, 09:38:46 PM
Regional? Like WVU playing TTU?
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Post by: pissclams on July 09, 2020, 09:44:32 PM
an idea I had is for espn to search games from each team from the past 15 or so years and find their best non-cons and conference games, then patch them together as a regular "all-star game" season and air them as if they were a normal football saturday.
k-state vs usc, miami, and another non con, then our kickass conference wins would obvs be ours
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 09, 2020, 09:48:50 PM
 
Regional? Like WVU playing TTU?
Keep it conference to conference testing. WV is a low state for positive cases. Private plane, game-to-game. No non con makes sense for in conference play.
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on July 10, 2020, 10:20:58 AM
Regional? Like WVU playing TTU?
Keep it conference to conference testing. WV is a low state for positive cases. Private plane, game-to-game. No non con makes sense for in conference play.

should work out fine since there aren't any states that have Div 1 schools in different conferences. Indiana, Iowa, Texas, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky...all examples of states that fit that mold.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 10, 2020, 10:27:59 AM
If anything, games further away from home would be safer because fewer fans would travel.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 10, 2020, 10:46:29 AM
maybe the cats could just play in state schools.. ku, washburn, emporia state, pittsburg, some jucos. just a battle for the sunflower state
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Post by: steve dave on July 10, 2020, 10:58:26 AM
maybe the cats could just play in state schools.. ku, washburn, emporia state, pittsburg, some jucos. just a battle for the sunflower state

that is honestly an incredibly horny idea
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Post by: steve dave on July 10, 2020, 10:59:07 AM
50 schools could hang a giant banner at the end of the year. And would forever be kings of the state. And KU would be happy as well because they'd finish at least .500.
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Post by: fun muffin on July 10, 2020, 01:28:39 PM
We'd travel well to Hays, Emporia, and Topeka too. 

Maybe we can set a record for most fans traveling inside state lines. 

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Post by: steve dave on July 10, 2020, 01:30:08 PM
Maybe we can set a record for most fans traveling inside state lines.

lmao


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on July 10, 2020, 01:46:57 PM
Play ku 12 times, then we won't have to wait as long to hear the head to head smack talk crap from them. Even if you lose to them once or twice you'd gain massively on them.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KITNfury on July 10, 2020, 02:01:16 PM
Let all other conferences cancel and then crown the big 12 champ as national champs.
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Post by: steve dave on July 10, 2020, 02:30:44 PM
lmao

https://twitter.com/HuskerExtraSip/status/1281665953374363651
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Post by: catastrophe on July 10, 2020, 02:51:08 PM
HuskerExtraSip is an epic handle
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 10, 2020, 09:47:23 PM
I've changed my mind on this, I want them to play and I like the conference only model. Not playing football will have implications on these universities that may be irreversible. I think the schools should be online only and the campuses should be used as bubbles for fall sports athletes. The students report after Labor Day and the sports start in October. Winter sports would also be conference only, starting in January with the thought that campuses would be able to safely open by then.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 10, 2020, 09:54:29 PM
I agree 100% that the not playing football will be devastating to the universities. And I honestly bet it happens in some format (DESPITE MY STILL PRESCIENT CALL THAT IT WOULD NOT). But, there is a zero percent chance a general student population doesn't return to (most) campus this fall. there is not an appetite for it from the students, their parents, the government, or the institutions. The only ones who DO have that desire generally don't have money in the pot (there are exceptions obv). It being the "Right" thing to do is a tertiary factor unfortunately.

As a separate point I'm glad it's a wake up call for universities relying on sports revenue so much now, leading into player professionalism, which will happen.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 10, 2020, 10:05:24 PM
Have a Kansas cup modeled after the FA Cup. Just let anyone in the damn thing. Yes it would be a great morale boost for KU
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 10, 2020, 10:20:46 PM
I agree 100% that the not playing football will be devastating to the universities. And I honestly bet it happens in some format (DESPITE MY STILL PRESCIENT CALL THAT IT WOULD NOT). But, there is a zero percent chance a general student population doesn't return to (most) campus this fall. there is not an appetite for it from the students, their parents, the government, or the institutions. The only ones who DO have that desire generally don't have money in the pot (there are exceptions obv). It being the "Right" thing to do is a tertiary factor unfortunately.

As a separate point I'm glad it's a wake up call for universities relying on sports revenue so much now, leading into player professionalism, which will happen.

It's really the right thing for the universities to do, keep students off campus. I don't think any of these schools have the money or time to keep these students safe. A local district here put half a mile of plexiglass in one high school. How will they manage that on a campus with dozens of buildings and resident halls? That's not even taking into account that they don't have the ability to quarantine the students before they arrive on campus or do it for two weeks on campus before classes start. If these campuses open they will all be super spreader greenhouses.
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Post by: catastrophe on July 10, 2020, 10:28:57 PM
Idk about all that, but what I DO know is that Mustang needs to call out Bama and Clemson now for one game to decide the season.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: tdaver on July 11, 2020, 12:02:43 AM
:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/
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Post by: michigancat on July 11, 2020, 12:31:51 AM
A conference only season is exciting to think about but it reeks of desperation
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Post by: MakeItRain on July 11, 2020, 02:42:02 AM
:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/

If we go conference only it makes sense to bring them in for a year to get to 10 games.
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Post by: KITNfury on July 11, 2020, 07:54:22 AM
:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/

If we go conference only it makes sense to bring them in for a year to get to 10 games.
Not gonna lie, I would get a lot of petty satisfaction to see ND with no games this season.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 11, 2020, 08:12:52 AM
I agree 100% that the not playing football will be devastating to the universities. And I honestly bet it happens in some format (DESPITE MY STILL PRESCIENT CALL THAT IT WOULD NOT). But, there is a zero percent chance a general student population doesn't return to (most) campus this fall. there is not an appetite for it from the students, their parents, the government, or the institutions. The only ones who DO have that desire generally don't have money in the pot (there are exceptions obv). It being the "Right" thing to do is a tertiary factor unfortunately.

As a separate point I'm glad it's a wake up call for universities relying on sports revenue so much now, leading into player professionalism, which will happen.

It's really the right thing for the universities to do, keep students off campus. I don't think any of these schools have the money or time to keep these students safe. A local district here put half a mile of plexiglass in one high school. How will they manage that on a campus with dozens of buildings and resident halls? That's not even taking into account that they don't have the ability to quarantine the students before they arrive on campus or do it for two weeks on campus before classes start. If these campuses open they will all be super spreader greenhouses.
I can only speak with knowledge about one school but they absolutely want students on campus. They know they won’t get away with charging full tuition without it. And can’t afford the sunk capital costs with nobody on campus. And obviously they know they probably won’t be able to suckle on the football teet to make up for it. Most of what is being done is just using auditorium, arena, etc space for classrooms to social distance and getting weird with the schedule. They aren’t retrofitting every room with dividers or anything.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 11, 2020, 08:27:55 AM
The crisis this week was looking up every foreign registered student and making sure they had enrolled in at least 1 on campus course so our big dumb president didn’t try to deport them. Foreign students pay a gigantic portion of tuition since they are the only ones that really pay “full” price.


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Post by: wetwillie on July 11, 2020, 08:42:03 AM
One of our incoming freshman basketball players is going to get booted if KSU goes online only.  Probably our best one so we have that going for us.
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Post by: cfbandyman on July 11, 2020, 09:11:25 AM
The crisis this week was looking up every foreign registered student and making sure they had enrolled in at least 1 on campus course so our big dumb president didn’t try to deport them. Foreign students pay a gigantic portion of tuition since they are the only ones that really pay “full” price.


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It's most unnecessary stick poking of the eye ever. A good chunk of those foreign students (esp players and grad students, which most these foreign students are anyways) are always in the US anyways during school, so the "I am trying to prevent more cases from coming into the US" argument one could make also makes little sense anyways.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 11, 2020, 09:14:01 AM
It’s cruelty for the sake of cruelty.


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Post by: cfbandyman on July 11, 2020, 09:21:48 AM
100%, and reading some of the comments people have about gleefully deporting students makes me hate so many people in this country. Truly showing it's never been about the legality of immigration, it's always been about racism
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 11, 2020, 01:18:43 PM
:lol: BYU won’t have a season after everyone goes conference only

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2020/07/10/byu-loses-three-more/

If we go conference only it makes sense to bring them in for a year to get to 10 games.
Not gonna lie, I would get a lot of petty satisfaction to see ND with no games this season.

The ACC has already said they would account for Notre Dame. Honestly, if I were a conference commissioner I'd lobby for them to get a part of their television revenue, God knows all of the conferences need it. If I'm Notre Dame I'm joining the AAC for a season. They will require the smallest portion of the ND tv revenue and that conference gives you the best shot at the CFP.
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Post by: Stevesie60 on July 13, 2020, 01:16:44 PM
Are there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?
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Post by: sys on July 13, 2020, 01:42:18 PM
Are there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?

yeah, student athletes get medical insurance.  at least scholarship athletes do.
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Post by: DQ12 on July 13, 2020, 02:22:49 PM
I don't think it's going to happen. I think if the football players are the only ones on campus, it's going to lead to too much PR pressure.

I also think it's inevitable that most programs will have positive cases and that it'll lead to chaos.
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Post by: Pete on July 13, 2020, 03:12:18 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.html

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Take a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
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Post by: kashi1965 on July 13, 2020, 03:48:04 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.html

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Take a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
question: why do all the sports teams and organizations know there will be positive tests, admit it, and prepare for them with protocols, only to respond to them by shutting down? i understand the general public may hold the most weight here and they might not want even 1 positive in a college athlete but what about the athletics leadership and sports writers? they too respond to the positives like each one is a death instead of what they have planned for all along. did they plan for them but really just hope they would never happen?
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 13, 2020, 03:51:16 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.html

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Take a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
question: why do all the sports teams and organizations know there will be positive tests, admit it, and prepare for them with protocols, only to respond to them by shutting down? i understand the general public may hold the most weight here and they might not want even 1 positive in a college athlete but what about the athletics leadership and sports writers? they too respond to the positives like each one is a death instead of what they have planned for all along. did they plan for them but really just hope they would never happen?

It's because 1 positive case quickly turns into 20 positive cases and then they figure out their plan was worthless.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 13, 2020, 04:25:27 PM
And they have to act like they are trying not to allow anyone at all to get it, lest they get their balls and asses and taints sued off (or at least attempted to be sued off).  Also, they will look bad in front of other academics, and peer pressure is very powerful in that culture.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 13, 2020, 04:29:06 PM
I’ve been in that mindset for a while now. I can be content with some form of an NFL season. Any type of a college season would be like a second Christmas for me.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 13, 2020, 04:52:30 PM
Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is our salvation at this point.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 13, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
And they have to act like they are trying not to allow anyone at all to get it, lest they get their balls and asses and taints sued off (or at least attempted to be sued off).  Also, they will look bad in front of other academics, and peer pressure is very powerful in that culture.
i haven't thought this thru so pardon if its idiotic but do we know if college athletes have been asked to sign medical waivers to participate?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 13, 2020, 06:09:46 PM
Pete Thamel  :blank:
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on July 13, 2020, 06:34:48 PM
Does anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?
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Post by: kashi1965 on July 13, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Does anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?
did you read the statement sent out from ISU AD to their alumni? it explains why.  as most others in positions of leadership they are trying to balance safety with avoiding economic disaster causing long term elimination of resources for student athletes
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: gatoveintisiete on July 13, 2020, 07:33:01 PM
Does anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?
did you read the statement sent out from ISU AD to their alumni? it explains why.  as most others in positions of leadership they are trying to balance safety with avoiding economic disaster causing long term elimination of resources for student athletes

No I didn't read, but universities are for education, athletics are secondary and maybe this will put things back in their proper order.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 13, 2020, 08:50:55 PM
Are there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?

yeah, student athletes get medical insurance.  at least scholarship athletes do.

Does that include future medical bills due to the long lasting effects?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on July 13, 2020, 09:28:08 PM
i think you have to sue to realize those benefits.
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Post by: kashi1965 on July 13, 2020, 10:08:52 PM
Does anyone have a good reason for college sport to be contested prior to a vaccine?
did you read the statement sent out from ISU AD to their alumni? it explains why.  as most others in positions of leadership they are trying to balance safety with avoiding economic disaster causing long term elimination of resources for student athletes

No I didn't read, but universities are for education, athletics are secondary and maybe this will put things back in their proper order.
athletics going out of business would be bad for the educational mission of the university
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 13, 2020, 10:12:15 PM
Are there already practices in place in which universities would pay for all medical bills if an athlete got COVID-19?

yeah, student athletes get medical insurance.  at least scholarship athletes do.

Does that include future medical bills due to the long lasting effects?
not sure. long lasting effects? i assume you are talking about the fairly rare instances where people's symptoms are still lingering after many weeks? it would be hard to predict that athletes will have any long last effect based on current knowledge. but we probably couldn't completely rule it out either
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 13, 2020, 11:48:22 PM
They are talking about long term issues such as reduced lung capacity.  I haven't looked it up, but what I have heard and seen were problems with eyes, lungs and various but not confirmed issues.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 14, 2020, 01:03:15 AM
I think those theories are mostly rooted in SARS, which is related to COVID. Obviously too early to know much about COVID itself, but also obviously makes sense to assume it’s as bad if not worse.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 14, 2020, 11:25:22 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/time-to-face-reality-no-one-is-playing-college-football-in-the-fall-170634809.html

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Take a deep breath, and begin to get comfortable with the idea there’s virtually no chance of playing college football in any recognizable form this fall. Start digesting the notion that the next time we see a college football game could be in more than 13 months, as the sport remains the most unlikely of all the major sports to execute a successful return. Consider any semblance of college football prior to Week Zero of 2021 as a bonus, an improbable gift from the football gods.
question: why do all the sports teams and organizations know there will be positive tests, admit it, and prepare for them with protocols, only to respond to them by shutting down? i understand the general public may hold the most weight here and they might not want even 1 positive in a college athlete but what about the athletics leadership and sports writers? they too respond to the positives like each one is a death instead of what they have planned for all along. did they plan for them but really just hope they would never happen?

The pro sports leagues are doing this, essentially what everyone's job is doing, but college kids aren't professionals universities can't take the same tact with amateurs.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 16, 2020, 12:05:22 PM
What will be the most significant implications of the 2021 season essentially having 2 recruiting classes with zero game experience?  At some schools, that will probably mean guys transferring, because it's hard honor that many bullshit recruiting promises about early playing time.   

Could it actually end up helping "developmental" programs like ours?  A whole bunch of 5th and 6th year seniors, and more competition among the younger guys?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 16, 2020, 12:16:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1283764156722806784
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 16, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
What will be the most significant implications of the 2021 season essentially having 2 recruiting classes with zero game experience?  At some schools, that will probably mean guys transferring, because it's hard honor that many bullshit recruiting promises about early playing time.   

Could it actually end up helping "developmental" programs like ours?  A whole bunch of 5th and 6th year seniors, and more competition among the younger guys?
it won't stop coaches from selling their BS. in the last 2 years nebraska has added more new players to their program than any program in america.
essentially they have 2 full classes made up of freshmen only. that hasn't stopped them from getting commits from top recruits who will end up sitting a long time because the roster is the youngest in the country. kids just can't NOT believe coaches BS
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 16, 2020, 05:04:37 PM
What will be the most significant implications of the 2021 season essentially having 2 recruiting classes with zero game experience?  At some schools, that will probably mean guys transferring, because it's hard honor that many bullshit recruiting promises about early playing time.   

Could it actually end up helping "developmental" programs like ours?  A whole bunch of 5th and 6th year seniors, and more competition among the younger guys?
it won't stop coaches from selling their BS. in the last 2 years nebraska has added more new players to their program than any program in america.
essentially they have 2 full classes made up of freshmen only. that hasn't stopped them from getting commits from top recruits who will end up sitting a long time because the roster is the youngest in the country. kids just can't NOT believe coaches BS
It all depends on the talent they bring in.  Some top coaches will play the most talented, so the recruits think they will play over the more experienced, but less talented.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 21, 2020, 04:52:37 PM
is this the first P5 school to go 100% online?

https://twitter.com/UCBerkeley/status/1285654163884474368
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 21, 2020, 06:12:59 PM


https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/texas-delaying-5a-and-6a-high-school-football-seasons-among-2020-fall-sports-modifications-announced/
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 25, 2020, 05:22:37 PM
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1286743234283220992?s=19

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1287127542869237761?s=19
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 25, 2020, 05:32:27 PM
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North Carolina coaches will utilize face shields and use sticks to ensure their social distancing from players in practices.
Enhanced workouts -- covering walk throughs and the like -- are the next step of CFB's attempted season boot-up before the start of preseason camps in earnest. UNC had to shut down mandatory workouts earlier this month due to COVID-19 positives, but has since reopened the weight room. While face shields and social distancing sticks might seem a bit unorthodox for a football practice, keep in mind that UNC HC Mack Brown is 68 years old. He's far from along in falling into the older demographic among coaches.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29510168/mack-brown-unc-coaches-wear-face-shields-use-sticks-social-distance

Mack Brown has a stick and if you get within social distance of him he pokes you with it.

 :lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2020, 05:39:30 PM
When is the official announcement?

4/15/20
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 25, 2020, 06:58:46 PM
When is the official announcement?

I think they are going to play.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on July 25, 2020, 07:13:50 PM
:excited:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 25, 2020, 07:27:14 PM
The Michigan State, Rutgers, and UNC outbreaks are from teams just reporting. The teams that reported a month ago doesn't seem to have outbreaks. With all of these pro sports going and all of the news that's looking like they are making plans to proceed, like ND joining the ACC, I just don't think these FBS conferences will find enough reason not to play. The coaches know the players want to play and that message is getting to the ADs who are passing it to the administrators. The talking point that not playing is safer for the players isn't an overwhelming one for players, coaches, and ADs. If we're being honest playing isn't less safe than what these 20 year olds would be doing otherwise. There's a reason why so many of these guys are arriving to campus with the rona, but the levels of those infested that have been.on campus for an extended period of time is much lower.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 25, 2020, 07:36:23 PM


The Michigan State, Rutgers, and UNC outbreaks are from teams just reporting. The teams that reported a month ago doesn't seem to have outbreaks. With all of these pro sports going and all of the news that's looking like they are making plans to proceed, like ND joining the ACC, I just don't think these FBS conferences will find enough reason not to play. The coaches know the players want to play and that message is getting to the ADs who are passing it to the administrators. The talking point that not playing is safer for the players isn't an overwhelming one for players, coaches, and ADs. If we're being honest playing isn't less safe than what these 20 year olds would be doing otherwise. There's a reason why so many of these guys are arriving to campus with the rona, but the levels of those infested that have been.on campus for an extended period of time is much lower.

The reasons they won't play is because students won't be on campus
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on July 25, 2020, 07:36:56 PM
Good thing that Junction City is no Magic City.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29538441/nba-probes-clippers-lou-williams-actions-away-bubble
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 25, 2020, 07:51:16 PM


The Michigan State, Rutgers, and UNC outbreaks are from teams just reporting. The teams that reported a month ago doesn't seem to have outbreaks. With all of these pro sports going and all of the news that's looking like they are making plans to proceed, like ND joining the ACC, I just don't think these FBS conferences will find enough reason not to play. The coaches know the players want to play and that message is getting to the ADs who are passing it to the administrators. The talking point that not playing is safer for the players isn't an overwhelming one for players, coaches, and ADs. If we're being honest playing isn't less safe than what these 20 year olds would be doing otherwise. There's a reason why so many of these guys are arriving to campus with the rona, but the levels of those infested that have been.on campus for an extended period of time is much lower.

The reasons they won't play is because students won't be on campus

I don't think that will matter. And like I said previously in this thread, I bet they use the campuses as bubbles. Athletic departments have operated independently from the academic part of the universities anyway.

Just today, Oklahoma announced they are playing their first game a week earlier.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 25, 2020, 11:25:50 PM
I think students on campus matter.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 26, 2020, 04:12:58 AM
I think students on campus matter.

Yeah, I do too, I'm not sure the decision makers care what we think.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 26, 2020, 09:03:12 AM
So, what happens if it’s all over the place? The big 10 isn’t playing non-league games... Cal-Berkeley has gone all virtual for the first semester and certainly other California schools will, too... Ivy League has postponed until Spring...

So some teams will play a full schedule and others like Ohio State will, what, end their season after a total of nine games, yet still argue to be let into the CFP because it’s not their fault they couldn’t play those other three? That seems weird. Will there be Dr. Peppers for some conferences but not others? Where will they be played?

They just need to make a clean break and cancel the season. This is bound to be both a mess and a danger.
Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on July 26, 2020, 10:10:39 AM
So, what happens if it’s all over the place? The big 10 isn’t playing non-league games... Cal-Berkeley has gone all virtual for the first semester and certainly other California schools will, too... Ivy League has postponed until Spring...

So some teams will play a full schedule and others like Ohio State will, what, end their season after a total of nine games, yet still argue to be let into the CFP because it’s not their fault they couldn’t play those other three? That seems weird. Will there be Dr. Peppers for some conferences but not others? Where will they be played?

They just need to make a clean break and cancel the season. This is bound to be both a mess and a danger.
I understand your sentiment, but I don’t think all of the weirdness and unbalanced parts should matter to the decision of whether to  play or not.  Ultimately, why should Kansas State care whether the PAC-12 has a normally crowned champion, or if the 4 teams in the CFP are as fairly selected as usual?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on July 26, 2020, 10:57:13 AM
If we were going to cancel the season because the CFP/conferences have weird scheduling and competitive discrepancies that lead to unfair results, we might as well just retroactively cancel college football too.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 26, 2020, 11:01:43 AM
I think students on campus matter.

Yeah, I do too, I'm not sure the decision makers care what we think.
I think they are concerned with maintaining the illusion of amateurism. Gonna be tough to keep that up if they play football while all the other students are at home. (Although everyone else at home definitely makes containing the spread easier).

It's just a pickle.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2020, 11:29:02 AM
If we were going to cancel the season because the CFP/conferences have weird scheduling and competitive discrepancies that lead to unfair results, we might as well just retroactively cancel college football too.

Lol
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 26, 2020, 12:43:31 PM
I think students on campus matter.

Yeah, I do too, I'm not sure the decision makers care what we think.
I think they are concerned with maintaining the illusion of amateurism. Gonna be tough to keep that up if they play football while all the other students are at home. (Although everyone else at home definitely makes containing the spread easier).

It's just a pickle.

They don't care about maintaining the illusion of amateurism, especially if they fear doing so will decimate these athletic departments. Internally it's pretty easy to justify playing if students aren't on campus. The players want to play and not doing so will cost hundreds of jobs and thousands of athletic scholarships.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 26, 2020, 09:55:08 PM
i started out "pretty sure they're going to play" then "i don't know," then about a month ago i was almost certain they wouldn't play.  now i'm cautiously optimistic they're going to play.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2020, 10:12:45 PM
They’re playing and I’m looking forward to the meltdown.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on July 26, 2020, 10:14:17 PM
They’re playing and I’m looking forward to the meltdown.


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everyone here wants college football.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 26, 2020, 10:16:18 PM
Oh,I know. We still have a few corona Bro’s who wanna be right tho.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Spracne on July 26, 2020, 10:27:15 PM
Wacky, I would LOVE for there to be college football. And it brings me sorrow to acknowledge that it's very unlikely to happen in any recognizable fashion. It's a pity, too. A pity you will never be able to bask in 100 KU losses in 10 years. BOOMSHAKALAKA!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 26, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
I would love to watch college football
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 26, 2020, 11:12:44 PM
They’re playing and I’m looking forward to the meltdown.


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Why do you do this?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on July 27, 2020, 02:25:46 AM
He got addicted after dunking on everyone in the Sky thread.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on July 27, 2020, 08:10:44 AM
So, what happens if it’s all over the place? The big 10 isn’t playing non-league games... Cal-Berkeley has gone all virtual for the first semester and certainly other California schools will, too... Ivy League has postponed until Spring...

So some teams will play a full schedule and others like Ohio State will, what, end their season after a total of nine games, yet still argue to be let into the CFP because it’s not their fault they couldn’t play those other three? That seems weird. Will there be Dr. Peppers for some conferences but not others? Where will they be played?

They just need to make a clean break and cancel the season. This is bound to be both a mess and a danger.

it'll be like the 20's where like 5 different teams claim a national championship and all of them have the same record of like 5-2
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on July 27, 2020, 08:38:08 AM
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1287741416551124993

This doesn't bode well for college football.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on July 27, 2020, 09:29:02 AM
my bold and daring prediction is that there will be no cfb this season
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 27, 2020, 09:41:51 AM
LOL

https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1287759417371496450
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 27, 2020, 09:42:41 AM



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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 27, 2020, 09:45:37 AM
they're gonna have to cancel MLB

https://twitter.com/ericjackson/status/1287750533638430723
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on July 27, 2020, 09:48:40 AM
they're gonna have to cancel MLB

https://twitter.com/ericjackson/status/1287750533638430723
Maybe. I don’t think it will happen now though.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Woogy on July 27, 2020, 02:12:41 PM
LOL

https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1287759417371496450

Probably any non wide receiver, corner, or QB.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 27, 2020, 02:54:32 PM
The baseball thing has changed my mind. Not happening.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
until a vaccine is ready it's going to be impossible to keep a team on the field (or in a classroom for that matter). best option is to punt to Spring.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2020, 03:52:35 PM
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1287748068889305089
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 27, 2020, 03:59:13 PM
CFB players should just have covid parties right now if they want to play because they're gonna get it
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 27, 2020, 04:33:10 PM
CFB players should just have covid parties right now if they want to play because they're gonna get it

NFL teams too. Bet on the teams that have the most guys who have already had it.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 27, 2020, 10:12:53 PM
CFB players should just have covid parties right now if they want to play because they're gonna get it

NFL teams too. Bet on the teams that have the most guys who have already had it.
i'm a little surprised no one has come up with a rapid test yet and figured out widespread distribution. This should have been just as big a focus from day 1 as a vaccine. a rapid test would allow much of our society to live relatively normally and stop hotspots in their tracks. imagine how many hospitalizations and deaths could have been avoided if we had a rapid test that everyone had access to on a daily basis. That could have gotten us through until a potential vaccine. and it will be the downfall of sports. No one would have to quarantine because they could test every morning. What will ruin college sports is the mandatory 2 week quarantines. It will crush programs. not necessarily the number of positive tests.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on July 27, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
rapid tests and testing capacity are kind of at odds with each other because the rapid tests are 1 at a time and the others are like 130 at a time, but yes our testing capacity is holding us back and it is definitely too late to fix.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 27, 2020, 11:12:26 PM
rapid tests and testing capacity are kind of at odds with each other because the rapid tests are 1 at a time and the others are like 130 at a time, but yes our testing capacity is holding us back and it is definitely too late to fix.
instead of quickly seeing this as a bridge to the vaccine Trump didn't want to believe anything bad could happen. Instead of hoping something bad wouldn't happen he should have instantly spend a several billion dollars to do this. in the long run it would have saved our economy trillions of dollars. Its better to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Trump forgot the plan for the worst part
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 28, 2020, 12:19:08 AM
I wonder if football games will be safe enough


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/politics/presidential-debate-notre-dame-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 28, 2020, 12:50:57 PM
Yeah, it was the Rona  :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 28, 2020, 04:31:03 PM
Yeah, it was the Rona  :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:

I'm sure there is a pit thread about this, debating Biden's dementia versus it being impossible to "debate" a pathological liar, etc.  Let's just keep it down there in the Pit tho.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 28, 2020, 05:12:31 PM
I was pretty sure NFL would play but this could throw a wrench in things

https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1288135217505603585
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 28, 2020, 06:52:31 PM
I was pretty sure NFL would play but this could throw a wrench in things

https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1288135217505603585
patriots tanking to get overall 1st pick
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 29, 2020, 07:51:16 AM
Yeah, it was the Rona  :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:

I'm sure there is a pit thread about this, debating Biden's dementia versus it being impossible to "debate" a pathological liar, etc.  Let's just keep it down there in the Pit tho.
Or ND not wanting the usual lunatics on their campus.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on July 29, 2020, 08:34:05 AM
Yeah, it was the Rona  :jerk: :jerk: :jerk:

I'm sure there is a pit thread about this, debating Biden's dementia versus it being impossible to "debate" a pathological liar, etc.  Let's just keep it down there in the Pit tho.
Or ND not wanting the usual lunatics on their campus.

Fair point.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on July 30, 2020, 03:23:49 PM
SEC going to a 10 game conference only schedule. Vanderbilt wanted NOTHING to do with the katz this year.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 30, 2020, 03:31:54 PM
I imagine we'll collect an amount from Vandy that will cover the cost of canceling the other two non-cons.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2020, 04:11:06 PM
What in the world

https://twitter.com/GoPowercat/status/1288944013752639489?s=19
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on July 30, 2020, 04:32:05 PM
I was fairly confident that we'd have football, even a few days ago. But now I think we may not have a season.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 30, 2020, 04:33:46 PM
SEC clownsuits the Big 12. This is really smart

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29566090/sec-play-10-game-conference-only-football-schedule
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2020, 04:36:42 PM
SEC clownsuits the Big 12. This is really smart

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29566090/sec-play-10-game-conference-only-football-schedule
I mean, all other P5 conferences have pretty much done that
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 30, 2020, 04:41:25 PM
Feel bad for the smaller schools, they are definitely going to have to trim the fat of their athletic departments
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on July 30, 2020, 04:44:57 PM
I imagine we'll collect an amount from Vandy that will cover the cost of canceling the other two non-cons.
vanderbilt won't be sending us a check
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on July 30, 2020, 04:44:57 PM
Interesting. But I guess we can continue to pad our schedule.  :cool:

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1288896007153934342
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on July 30, 2020, 04:48:19 PM
Every sport just needs to cooperate on adjusting schedules back about 4-6 months to allow everyone to get chip'd and then get back to normal a month or two at a time over the next 4 years.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 30, 2020, 06:42:01 PM
Hello BYU
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2020, 06:44:10 PM
Interesting. But I guess we can continue to pad our schedule.  :cool:

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1288896007153934342

they do it for revenue + scrimmaging. but mostly revenue. I think Mandel knows this
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 30, 2020, 06:57:20 PM
BTW on today's version of will they, won't they, the dorms opened up at Iowa State today.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 09:05:45 PM
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on July 30, 2020, 09:11:42 PM
Interesting. But I guess we can continue to pad our schedule.  :cool:

https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1288896007153934342

they do it for revenue + scrimmaging. but mostly revenue. I think Mandel knows this
Also Bowl Eligibility and Rankings
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on July 30, 2020, 09:12:30 PM
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.


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I get why they did this but LOL at the thought of the students staying spaced out when they go to whatever Lincolns aggieville is and get hammered and make out with chicks while grinding on the dance floor.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on July 30, 2020, 09:13:55 PM
Hello BYU

I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.

(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2020, 09:36:39 PM
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.


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LOL who's setting the compliance
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 09:40:07 PM
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.


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LOL who's setting the compliance
Nebraska Med


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2020, 09:57:15 PM
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.


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LOL who's setting the compliance
Nebraska Med


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Well that's probably better than the CDC at least
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on July 30, 2020, 10:23:51 PM
Hello BYU

I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.

(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)

We can get them for one year similar to the ACC with Nortre Dame.  Also, ACC, SEC, and BIG Ten are playing 10 games so with BYU we could comply with P5.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 31, 2020, 09:43:45 AM
U of Nebraska has spaced out classrooms enough to compliantly not have to suspend classes for any positive cases.


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No group projects in college would've be a huge bonus
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on July 31, 2020, 09:53:50 AM
SEC clownsuits the Big 12. This is really smart

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29566090/sec-play-10-game-conference-only-football-schedule
I think the Big 12 is being pretty clever about this. 

Wait until all the other conferences bail out on OOC --> set 10 game schedule w/ byu because there's no one to play in OOC anyway --> collect cancellation penalties from teams who bailed --> profit
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on July 31, 2020, 03:03:09 PM
Hello BYU

I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.

(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)

We didn't have to give them anything, they have their own tv deal they can hang onto. Anyway,
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https://twitter.com/mattmosley/status/1289252041034887171
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Post by: Pete on July 31, 2020, 04:11:37 PM
Maybe the Big 12 just play 10 games, with the 10th being playing your in-state rival twice :fatty:
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Post by: chum1 on July 31, 2020, 07:04:05 PM
Iowa State can just go eff themselves twice.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on July 31, 2020, 07:40:39 PM
Yes, they take two losses there


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2020, 09:00:09 AM
https://twitter.com/BrianMFloyd/status/1289551738895134721
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: turnbull on August 01, 2020, 11:27:54 AM
Honestly, I think most know that college football won't exist this fall. People are just holding on to the same false hope as the "it'll disappear in April just like the flu" kinda stuff. There is no way they can have football in the form we know it. Once students get on campus it'll become a petri dish of COVID. We might get like 2 or 3 games in before we get the season yanked from us in the same way the MLB is probably about to go.
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Post by: wetwillie on August 01, 2020, 11:39:56 AM
Still happening
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 02:24:41 PM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2020, 03:07:40 PM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on August 01, 2020, 03:14:34 PM
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.

give everyone an extra year of eligibility and enough scholarships to (temporarily) accommodate that.  maybe some sort of maximum number of minutes played to force coaches to use the extra players.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 01, 2020, 04:59:21 PM
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.

give everyone an extra year of eligibility and enough scholarships to (temporarily) accommodate that.  maybe some sort of maximum number of minutes played to force coaches to use the extra players.

They are doing that, it was stated in the Big XII media article.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 05:08:20 PM
I saw an interview with an old Clemson coach and he had a decent point that two full seasons in a calendar year (spring and fall) would be hard on bodies. He might be overstating it, but he has a point.

give everyone an extra year of eligibility and enough scholarships to (temporarily) accommodate that.  maybe some sort of maximum number of minutes played to force coaches to use the extra players.

Yeah, a spring season would have to be shorter and fall '21 would have to start later.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 05:08:37 PM
https://twitter.com/BelieveBoston_/status/1289669919655825414
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: tdaver on August 01, 2020, 06:30:33 PM
Hello BYU

I am very MEH on adding BYU as a full time member of the big12 but think a 1 year trial run this year to get us 10 conference games would be a good idea.

(not that we will actually play 10 games but just in case)

We didn't have to give them anything, they have their own tv deal they can hang onto. Anyway,
(https://media.tenor.com/images/379f8492b4d4e1dafa78ead5fec085e1/tenor.gif)
https://twitter.com/mattmosley/status/1289252041034887171

F BYU.  I would benefit more than anyone on this board and I don’t want them anywhere near our conference.
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Post by: sys on August 01, 2020, 06:48:56 PM
They are doing that, it was stated in the Big XII media article.

that's good.
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Post by: kashi1965 on August 01, 2020, 07:01:28 PM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2020, 07:05:39 PM
Kashi, Check out Clay Travis (@ClayTravis): https://twitter.com/ClayTravis?s=09
Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 01, 2020, 07:56:15 PM
I would also recommend sight unseen Kevin Keitzman’s upcoming new podcast


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Post by: pissclams on August 01, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
I would also recommend sight I seen Kevin Keitzman’s upcoming new podcast


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could not have said it better myself
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 09:37:21 PM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story

What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.

Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 09:40:49 PM
I would also recommend sight I seen Kevin Keitzman’s upcoming new podcast


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could not have said it better myself

 :ROFL: it was such a good post by rusty too, completely undone by two letters and a wayward space.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2020, 09:41:31 PM
What Kashi is saying is "let them get it, they won't go to the hospital" which is honestly a better plan than the delay and pray plan that everyone seems to be embracing
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 09:42:18 PM
The connectivity of this straw house all along was the willingness of the players to play. Well...
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29578950/pac-12-player-group-threatens-opt-makes-list-demands-injustice-safety
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 01, 2020, 09:43:20 PM
What Kashi is saying is "let them get it, they won't go to the hospital" which is honestly a better plan than the delay and pray plan that everyone seems to be embracing


https://twitter.com/BelieveBoston_/status/1289669919655825414
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2020, 09:44:43 PM
What Kashi is saying is "let them get it, they won't go to the hospital" which is honestly a better plan than the delay and pray plan that everyone seems to be embracing


https://twitter.com/BelieveBoston_/status/1289669919655825414
But did he die?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on August 01, 2020, 09:49:36 PM
no coffin, no foul
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 01, 2020, 10:23:10 PM
Kashi, Check out Clay Travis (@ClayTravis): https://twitter.com/ClayTravis?s=09
what do you want me to check out. there is a lot of stuff on his twitter page
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 01, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story

What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.

Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
i guess i'm asking what is it about baseball that has been so horrible? i guess if you are saying we cannot tolerate any positive covid tests then yes any sport will be in "trouble". There have been at least 1000 positive tests in college fb players that have been verified. probably 100s of others that haven't been documented. I haven't read of a single hospitalization. I'm not saying it couldn't happen or won't happen. But other than some positive tests and a majority that are asymptomatic what is it about it that makes it a disaster? i dont want to get sick and dont want anyone else to get sick either but so far there's hardly been any athletes even report symptoms. if our goal is zero infections then yes we cannot have football. i'm just wondering if we have a few thousand infections and the majority are asymptomatic and none require hospitalizations is that unacceptable? i know we dont know everything about this virus but we so readily accept other viruses and diseases in our athletes that we dont even try to prevent them. we dont try at all. i'm not saying i know the answer im just asking questions. we expose these very same athletes without any precautions to every other virus on the planet and most of the time any of those viruses carry a bigger symptom burden than the coronavirus. so the only explanation i can come up with is the unknown variable with covid
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 01, 2020, 10:48:10 PM
The players who get coronavirus in their petri dishes of empty stadiums will spread it across the rest of the country that they're traveling around to. 

We're all gonna be chip'd w/in half a year so it's dumb to rush out a super-spreader activity in the meantime.  Sports schedules can be weird for a few years.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2020, 11:19:23 PM


The players who get coronavirus in their petri dishes of empty stadiums will spread it across the rest of the country that they're traveling around to. 

Some people just prefer to be blissfully ignorant
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 02, 2020, 01:18:58 AM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story

What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.

Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
i guess i'm asking what is it about baseball that has been so horrible? i guess if you are saying we cannot tolerate any positive covid tests then yes any sport will be in "trouble". There have been at least 1000 positive tests in college fb players that have been verified. probably 100s of others that haven't been documented. I haven't read of a single hospitalization. I'm not saying it couldn't happen or won't happen. But other than some positive tests and a majority that are asymptomatic what is it about it that makes it a disaster? i dont want to get sick and dont want anyone else to get sick either but so far there's hardly been any athletes even report symptoms. if our goal is zero infections then yes we cannot have football. i'm just wondering if we have a few thousand infections and the majority are asymptomatic and none require hospitalizations is that unacceptable? i know we dont know everything about this virus but we so readily accept other viruses and diseases in our athletes that we dont even try to prevent them. we dont try at all. i'm not saying i know the answer im just asking questions. we expose these very same athletes without any precautions to every other virus on the planet and most of the time any of those viruses carry a bigger symptom burden than the coronavirus. so the only explanation i can come up with is the unknown variable with covid

Your posts are too long and you need to use paragraphs. College football will be significantly worse than anything that has happened in baseball, in a massive way. I thought I made that point, I guess I didn't.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 02, 2020, 09:56:22 AM
Baseball has shown there is no shot they can finish a fall season. I wish they would just pack it up and start working on getting a spring season going. That being said a spring season won't be as easy as some think. The TV thing will be a real problem. There won't be any new scripted episodes of television until fall of 2021 so college football and basketball will have to play a lot of weeknight games if both are going in the fall. College Basketball will probably have to give up Thursday nights and all day each Saturday.
im not smart enough to know what the right answer is but what is it about baseball that tells you they can't finish a season? positive tests? EVERYONE in the world is planning on positive tests. what is happening in baseball is being planned for. it is expected. the plan for baseball is to play through it. the plan for college fb is to play through it. the only thing that will stop it is the look of it that media will paint and some parents of athletes might have. as far as i know, with all these positive tests the last 2 months in college athletes i am unaware of a single hospitalization. i believe the virus is serious and i dont think we should sacrifice the elderly for our sake and i wear a mask everywhere i go but i will also admit the media ONLY reports the dark side of the virus. They NEVER report ALL the millions who have recovered with virtually no symptoms or all the college athletes who have tested positive with almost no symptoms. if the media wanted to tell a different side of the story there is one out there. I'm in sales and it would be pretty easy to sell a positive side of what is a dark story

What is it? Simple. MLB has 30 teams of 30 players, that's 900 players they have to keep safe and sheltered. Bear in mind that these are grown ass men. The Big 12 alone, the smallest of the top 6 conferences, has more players than that to protect. In addition to this baseball players are supposedly doing nothing more than going from their hotel rooms to the ballpark and back again. We know college football players won't be doing this. They are young men, in their teens and early 20's, who not only are not in a bubble or sequestered in a hotel, but they are spending all of their time with other 18-22 year olds who have no reason and very little motivation to keep their asses at home.

Think what you will about football happening without other students on campus, but that would be the only way this will work. You are essentially asking for all of the students, at every major college campus, to wear masks and maintain social distancing, and even with all of this, that only minimizes the chance of spreading coronavirus, it doesn't eliminate it.
i guess i'm asking what is it about baseball that has been so horrible? i guess if you are saying we cannot tolerate any positive covid tests then yes any sport will be in "trouble". There have been at least 1000 positive tests in college fb players that have been verified. probably 100s of others that haven't been documented. I haven't read of a single hospitalization. I'm not saying it couldn't happen or won't happen. But other than some positive tests and a majority that are asymptomatic what is it about it that makes it a disaster? i dont want to get sick and dont want anyone else to get sick either but so far there's hardly been any athletes even report symptoms. if our goal is zero infections then yes we cannot have football. i'm just wondering if we have a few thousand infections and the majority are asymptomatic and none require hospitalizations is that unacceptable? i know we dont know everything about this virus but we so readily accept other viruses and diseases in our athletes that we dont even try to prevent them. we dont try at all. i'm not saying i know the answer im just asking questions. we expose these very same athletes without any precautions to every other virus on the planet and most of the time any of those viruses carry a bigger symptom burden than the coronavirus. so the only explanation i can come up with is the unknown variable with covid

Your posts are too long and you need to use paragraphs. College football will be significantly worse than anything that has happened in baseball, in a massive way. I thought I made that point, I guess I didn't.
you mean more positive tests? i agree. i'm asking if more positive tests is a disaster? if no one gets hospitalized and few even have symptoms and these players are spending their first semester at school and not around their families are isolated positive tests without symptoms all that terrible of a thing?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 02, 2020, 06:29:53 PM
You are a dumb SOB.  If you read anything about this virus, you would relealize there are long term health effects.  As Clams stated, "no coffin, no foul".  Seems like you don't give a eff about these young men; just as long as you can sit on your fat ass and enjoy some college football. 

Would be nice if your employer felt the same way about you.  Think about that you MAGA bad person.       
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 02, 2020, 10:27:19 PM
You are a dumb SOB.  If you read anything about this virus, you would relealize there are long term health effects.  As Clams stated, "no coffin, no foul".  Seems like you don't give a eff about these young men; just as long as you can sit on your fat ass and enjoy some college football. 

Would be nice if your employer felt the same way about you.  Think about that you MAGA bad person.     
what? no one has said they know there are long term health effects. They have said they dont know that answer. how could anyone possibly know that answer? it hasn't been long term yet. the only thing they have said about long term is they dont know the answer. Now the very sick people may take a very long time to recover and its possible some of them have some sort of long term effects but that is not the topic of this discussion. we are talking about predominantly asymptomatic cases or at worst mild cases that go away within a week.  What long term health effects can you document in people who were asymptomatic or very mild disease? and how can it be long term when it hasn't been a but a couple months?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 03, 2020, 12:59:45 AM
You are a dumb SOB.  If you read anything about this virus, you would relealize there are long term health effects.  As Clams stated, "no coffin, no foul".  Seems like you don't give a eff about these young men; just as long as you can sit on your fat ass and enjoy some college football. 

Would be nice if your employer felt the same way about you.  Think about that you MAGA bad person.     
what? no one has said they know there are long term health effects. They have said they dont know that answer. how could anyone possibly know that answer? it hasn't been long term yet. the only thing they have said about long term is they dont know the answer. Now the very sick people may take a very long time to recover and its possible some of them have some sort of long term effects but that is not the topic of this discussion. we are talking about predominantly asymptomatic cases or at worst mild cases that go away within a week.  What long term health effects can you document in people who were asymptomatic or very mild disease? and how can it be long term when it hasn't been a but a couple months?

Damn, that's your argument?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on August 03, 2020, 07:36:11 AM
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916

The early returns seem not great on long term health effects. Smallish study, relatively short term, but a reason for pessimism.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2020, 09:01:30 AM
there could be zero hospitalizations and zero long term effects for players and it would still be extremely foolish to play college football while other students are on campus
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 03, 2020, 11:13:20 AM
Unlike the students going for their degree the athletic scholarship students have to do what the AD requires to keep their eligibility.  Most don't have a way to get a degree w/o the scholarship.  So they are mumped on decisions regarding their health.  This whole thing stinks for these kids.  Look at what happened at WSU. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 03, 2020, 01:16:21 PM
Unlike the students going for their degree the athletic scholarship students have to do what the AD requires to keep their eligibility.  Most don't have a way to get a degree w/o the scholarship.  So they are mumped on decisions regarding their health.  This whole thing stinks for these kids.  Look at what happened at WSU.
thats just flat wrong. any athlete who chooses not to play still gets their scholarship and everything else. they do not have to play. where did you come up with this crap?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 03, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916

The early returns seem not great on long term health effects. Smallish study, relatively short term, but a reason for pessimism.
i agree this is concerning. as the authors state they did not include asymptomatic individuals in this study. so they probably need to study asymptomatic patients to see if this applies to them as well. This is why KSU med staff is doing follow up heart studies before positive players are allowed to return to conditioning drills. there is a lot more we dont know about this than we do know. I haven't googled it but is the flu associated with similar heart enzyme abnormalities? i do know a lot of different viruses can cause systemic inflammation including myocarditis. this would make corona similar to others but i dont think anyone has compared the incidence rate between the viruses. the number in this study seems pretty high though. not sure what incidence is with flu
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2020, 07:25:36 PM
What on earth

https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1290350010547093504
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 03, 2020, 07:32:51 PM
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916

The early returns seem not great on long term health effects. Smallish study, relatively short term, but a reason for pessimism.
i agree this is concerning. as the authors state they did not include asymptomatic individuals in this study. so they probably need to study asymptomatic patients to see if this applies to them as well. This is why KSU med staff is doing follow up heart studies before positive players are allowed to return to conditioning drills. there is a lot more we dont know about this than we do know. I haven't googled it but is the flu associated with similar heart enzyme abnormalities? i do know a lot of different viruses can cause systemic inflammation including myocarditis. this would make corona similar to others but i dont think anyone has compared the incidence rate between the viruses. the number in this study seems pretty high though. not sure what incidence is with flu
sounds like myocarditis is a common complication of flu viruses. Most often people dont even know they have it. A few have complications related to it. Maybe we should be doing more to prevent flu spread than we do? as a society we dont seem to give a rats ass if anyone gets the flu
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2020, 07:37:40 PM
kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Cire on August 03, 2020, 08:44:02 PM
IT’S THE FLU :runaway:


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2020, 09:23:14 PM
Darren Rovell with a terrible tweet but there is at least one example of a hospitalization (at least the ER)

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1290406145866301443
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Post by: pissclams on August 03, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
rutgers team and staff are blowing up w c19
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Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2020, 10:34:58 PM
rutgers team and staff are blowing up w c19
This might be their best season yet if they can keep this up
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Post by: kashi1965 on August 03, 2020, 10:35:15 PM
kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.
1. despite having a vaccine its estimated that it only reduces flu transmission by an average of 50%-60% estimated over decades. So the vaccine lowers transmission but there is still flu every year
2. my point is that with a vaccine or without a vaccine our society just doesn't worry much; think much; or do much (other than some of us get a free shot) to try to prevent any of the other viruses out there that cause myocarditis. Now are they as prevalent as corona currently is? No
so the incidence of myocarditis will probably be much higher because covid is being transmitted everywhere to everyone.
i guess if the flu was this contagious maybe we would be more concerned about it. But its amazing how invisible on the radar the flu is even during flu season. FYI if we end up living with corona for the rest of our lives my prediction will be that we will eventually become numb to it like we are to the flu. right now it is so new and unknown and different. A year from now it might still be around but not be on the front page any more
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Post by: kashi1965 on August 03, 2020, 10:39:50 PM
Darren Rovell with a terrible tweet but there is at least one example of a hospitalization (at least the ER)

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1290406145866301443
hate to see that happen to anyone. hope it turns out to be acute in nature and he recovers quickly. it would be impossible to call this case permanent damage or even long lasting damage at this point. It requires continuing monitoring. its possible he could be on the field for the first game
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Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2020, 10:41:31 PM
Flu has also been around for years and has predictable seasonal patterns, we have a pretty good idea of how it spreads, and we have hospital capacity designed for it.

So yeah I think if you could consistently knock covid in half with a vaccine, learn more about transmission, and build hospital capacity to support, I think things would be most of the way back to normal/we'll be "numb" to it. We just aren't there yet
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Post by: Cire on August 03, 2020, 11:26:56 PM
kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.
1. despite having a vaccine its estimated that it only reduces flu transmission by an average of 50%-60% estimated over decades. So the vaccine lowers transmission but there is still flu every year
2. my point is that with a vaccine or without a vaccine our society just doesn't worry much; think much; or do much (other than some of us get a free shot) to try to prevent any of the other viruses out there that cause myocarditis. Now are they as prevalent as corona currently is? No
so the incidence of myocarditis will probably be much higher because covid is being transmitted everywhere to everyone.
i guess if the flu was this contagious maybe we would be more concerned about it. But its amazing how invisible on the radar the flu is even during flu season. FYI if we end up living with corona for the rest of our lives my prediction will be that we will eventually become numb to it like we are to the flu. right now it is so new and unknown and different. A year from now it might still be around but not be on the front page any more
Diseases like rona and flu get less deadly over time due to mutations.

The deadly strains die out you dumb eff


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on August 04, 2020, 04:18:51 AM
Diseases like rona and flu get less deadly over time due to mutations.

The deadly strains die out you dumb eff

this is not always the direction of viral evolution.
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Post by: sys on August 04, 2020, 04:30:04 AM
Maybe we should be doing more to prevent flu spread than we do? as a society we dont seem to give a rats ass if anyone gets the flu

i think a big part of our attitude towards the flu is that we don't really know what it is (like sciencewise we do, but not in the general culture).  like most years in my life, at some point i've caught some sort of respiratory illness and generally i've had no idea what it was and have guessed - welp i've got a cold or the flu or maybe it's allergies, i dunno.  i guess i'll drink more orange juice for a few days.

it wasn't until this spring that i paid any attention to the causes of those diseases and i now know enough to look back and realize i've probably only had an actual influenza infection once or twice in my life and what we call a cold is a catchall for the symptoms of like a hundred different minor respiratory illnesses.

so like, most of us probably has a concept of influenza as being a less serious and more prevalent illness than it actually is because we conflate it with all sorts of other respiratory illnesses that have superficially similar symptoms.
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Post by: catastrophe on August 04, 2020, 11:20:02 AM
We are also blissfully ignorant that the flu kills tons of people a year despite a widely available vaccine.

I think it’s reasonable to assume we’ll end up with something like that with COVID too. Just as long as we can mitigate against rapid outbreaks I think most folks are good with it.
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Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2020, 11:39:46 AM
IMO "flu" is a branding problem. "Flu" is a cute little drink some orange juice setback but "influenza" sounds rough ridin' scary. I bet a large portion of folks don't know "flu" and "influenza" are the same thing.
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Post by: kashi1965 on August 04, 2020, 01:55:33 PM
kashi I get a flu vaccine every year along with almost half of the country. back when I had an office they came and gave them every year. if you have health insurance, it's probably free but you're probably right that it should be free for everyone.
1. despite having a vaccine its estimated that it only reduces flu transmission by an average of 50%-60% estimated over decades. So the vaccine lowers transmission but there is still flu every year
2. my point is that with a vaccine or without a vaccine our society just doesn't worry much; think much; or do much (other than some of us get a free shot) to try to prevent any of the other viruses out there that cause myocarditis. Now are they as prevalent as corona currently is? No
so the incidence of myocarditis will probably be much higher because covid is being transmitted everywhere to everyone.
i guess if the flu was this contagious maybe we would be more concerned about it. But its amazing how invisible on the radar the flu is even during flu season. FYI if we end up living with corona for the rest of our lives my prediction will be that we will eventually become numb to it like we are to the flu. right now it is so new and unknown and different. A year from now it might still be around but not be on the front page any more
Diseases like rona and flu get less deadly over time due to mutations.

The deadly strains die out you dumb eff


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you'd be wrong on that last point. flu deaths have been higher recently than in the past. despite increasing or stable vaccination rates
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Post by: IPA4Me on August 04, 2020, 05:14:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848?s=19

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Post by: Pete on August 04, 2020, 05:23:01 PM
Probably isolated to CSU.  You know those guys.
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Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848?s=19

guys being dudes
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Post by: Katpappy on August 04, 2020, 06:17:51 PM
Maybe we should be doing more to prevent flu spread than we do? as a society we dont seem to give a rats ass if anyone gets the flu

i think a big part of our attitude towards the flu is that we don't really know what it is (like sciencewise we do, but not in the general culture).  like most years in my life, at some point i've caught some sort of respiratory illness and generally i've had no idea what it was and have guessed - welp i've got a cold or the flu or maybe it's allergies, i dunno.  i guess i'll drink more orange juice for a few days.

it wasn't until this spring that i paid any attention to the causes of those diseases and i now know enough to look back and realize i've probably only had an actual influenza infection once or twice in my life and what we call a cold is a catchall for the symptoms of like a hundred different minor respiratory illnesses.

so like, most of us probably has a concept of influenza as being a less serious and more prevalent illness than it actually is because we conflate it with all sorts of other respiratory illnesses that have superficially similar symptoms.

I don't know much about the flu, but I do know my dad died from it.  He was on life support due to the hosiptal trying to install a ventilator tube down his throat.  He fought them, so they gave him meds to put him to sleep.  That's when he went comatose with a 30% lose of lung function.  It took a week to decide to remove life support.  After that we thought he would pass quickly.  That was not the case, as he huffed and puffed for three days afterwards.  I was thankful when he finally passed, thinking that those same med staff wouldn't let a dog suffer like that.   
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 04, 2020, 09:15:45 PM
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848?s=19

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The university president should fire the coach and the AD, if he/she doesn't the governor should.
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Post by: TheHamburglar on August 04, 2020, 10:58:45 PM
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Lytle/status/1290766084212174848?s=19

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The university president should fire the coach and the AD, if he/she doesn't the governor should.

That AD got gamed too. Hired Addazio on Urban Meyer’s recommendation, Addazio then hires Meyer’s son-in-law only to then have the SIL get a job at Ohio State.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 04, 2020, 11:16:26 PM
Darren Rovell with a terrible tweet but there is at least one example of a hospitalization (at least the ER)

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1290406145866301443
hate to see that happen to anyone. hope it turns out to be acute in nature and he recovers quickly. it would be impossible to call this case permanent damage or even long lasting damage at this point. It requires continuing monitoring. its possible he could be on the field for the first game

Do you hear yourself?
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Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2020, 08:26:11 AM
UConn called it


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Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2020, 08:32:49 AM
UConn called it


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I didn't realize they were an independent. also kinda crazy that Randy Edsall comes off as a nice guy

https://twitter.com/JonSolomonAspen/status/1290986038350041088
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2020, 08:48:13 AM
If they can't handle this situation, then they might as well shut down CFB for good.

Because even a vaccine isn't going to be 100% effective, and may never be effective.

SARS-Covid-19 is here to stay.

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Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2020, 10:50:48 AM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1291038610515517441


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 10:54:47 AM
Mods, please lock this thread. It’s so on!!! :excited:


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2020, 11:03:51 AM
I'm about 95% sure games will be played but I don't know if the season will finish
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 11:13:02 AM
I just need there to be enough tape this year for my guy sky, to get drafted.


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 11:27:15 AM
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1291045181039362050?s=21


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Post by: pissclams on August 05, 2020, 12:31:53 PM
hoping to see some old school eight man football this fall??!?  you could be in luck!!
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Post by: Pete on August 05, 2020, 12:35:44 PM
D1 8  man would be a lot of fun!
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Post by: chum1 on August 05, 2020, 12:37:07 PM
A year off and I'm still on scholarship? HELL YES!
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Post by: IPA4Me on August 05, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
Kids being kids.

https://twitter.com/CardChronicle/status/1291057503569088515
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Post by: Katpappy on August 05, 2020, 12:44:01 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1291038610515517441


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This is the right thing to do.  WSU AD can get mumped and that includes the Animal.
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Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2020, 01:06:30 PM
https://twitter.com/insidethencaa/status/1291072365548441600


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 01:18:12 PM
D3 athletes don’t get athletic scholarships. I learned this the hard way on a visit, after the recruiter didn’t disclose this for months over the phone. They have nothing to lose by doing this. Good call.


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Post by: Katpappy on August 05, 2020, 01:45:25 PM
D3 athletes don’t get athletic scholarships. I learned this the hard way on a visit, after the recruiter didn’t disclose this for months over the phone. They have nothing to lose by doing this. Good call.


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The NAIA private colleges do.  My son visited several.  It's a scam thou, as they are very expensive and will offer like a 10 thousand dollar scholarship per year and total is in the mid twenties.  This is twice as high as going to state Division I school even with the scholarship.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
Correct.


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 05, 2020, 06:09:02 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1291113514166362112?s=21


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Post by: MakeItRain on August 05, 2020, 11:33:40 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1291038610515517441


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So like if they opt out and it's a single year scholly... schools could still retaliate by not renewing next yesr?

I wouldn't view it as retaliation, it's going to be very difficult for these schools to afford all of these scholarships. Honestly, if these guys are student athletes, let them opt out but let them keep their scholarships for this year so they can continue to work towards graduation, but the clock should keep running. If you're a senior, at least you still get to work towards your degree.
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Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2020, 09:04:03 AM
The Pac12's program to loan the school AD's money to stay afloat sounds like a good plan. The Big 12 should copy a lot of what the Pac12 is doing imo. Finally time for the nerd conferences to shine.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2020, 09:10:58 AM
I believe the Big 12 has said that they have enough money to keep schools whole on the TV side for one year.

The PAC12 is a financial trainwreck.

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Post by: michigancat on August 06, 2020, 10:50:52 AM
The Pac12's program to loan the school AD's money to stay afloat sounds like a good plan. The Big 12 should copy a lot of what the Pac12 is doing imo. Finally time for the nerd conferences to shine.

knowing what I know about Larry Scott I would consider doing what he does on opposite day
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 06, 2020, 11:49:54 AM
FCS moving to spring
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Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2020, 11:59:50 AM
Smart


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Post by: cfbandyman on August 06, 2020, 12:09:08 PM
It's gotta be a matter of time, that or they start and don't finish
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Post by: Katpappy on August 06, 2020, 12:10:05 PM
FCS moving to spring

Playoff or season games?
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 06, 2020, 12:12:57 PM
season. only grumblings at this point.
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Post by: KST8FAN on August 06, 2020, 01:11:15 PM
An odd question here... who manages the officials?  Could a bunch of them opt out?  Official shortage?  Or is there someone at lower level ready to step up to big time?


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Post by: michigancat on August 06, 2020, 01:12:44 PM
An odd question here... who manages the officials?  Could a bunch of them opt out?  Official shortage?  Or is there someone at lower level ready to step up to big time?


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there's plenty of maga refs plus since the lower levels won't be playing it shouldn't be much of a problem
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2020, 05:54:56 PM
cRustyhas Co-Captain of the CoronaBro team, I need to ask how does one spot a "MAGA ref"?

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Post by: MakeItRain on August 07, 2020, 03:26:24 AM
cRustyhas Co-Captain of the CoronaBro team, I need to ask how does one spot a "MAGA ref"?



https://twitter.com/gman564?s=09
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 07, 2020, 11:48:27 AM
If that triggers anyone then they're hairtriggered and living at the zenith of first world problems.

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Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2020, 01:19:21 PM
Because of Covid NU has finals on a Saturday. And the dumbshits have a home football game that day, lmao. I assume that game won’t be played but lmao anyway.


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Post by: michigancat on August 07, 2020, 01:22:10 PM
Because of Covid NU has finals on a Saturday. And the dumbshits have a home football game that day, lmao. I assume that game won’t be played but lmao anyway.


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LMAO at all of that
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Post by: pissclams on August 07, 2020, 01:46:13 PM
nu = stupid losers lmao
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Post by: Cardiac Cats on August 07, 2020, 09:31:07 PM
SEC added 2 conf games and showing MIZ no love..  :lol:

Missouri: Alabama at home, LSU on the road

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29616596/sec-announces-new-foes-conference-teams
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Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2020, 10:07:59 AM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1292101098518589440
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Post by: Brock Landers on August 08, 2020, 10:47:53 AM
No MACtion?  Now what am I going to do on a crisp fall Tuesday night?   :frown:
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 10:52:16 AM
No MACtion?  Now what am I going to do on a crisp fall Tuesday night?   :frown:
You’re going to need to find something else to do the remaining 6 days as well.


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Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2020, 10:53:05 AM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1292117309235044352
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Post by: Pete on August 08, 2020, 10:59:50 AM
Just move it to the spring already, jeez.
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Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2020, 11:43:42 AM
What is going to be different in March?
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Post by: LickNeckey on August 08, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
Hearing that a player who is a symptomatic positive has a 4-6 week return to play timeframe even if symptoms are minor.

Significat cardiovascular testing is required before cleared to play.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2020, 11:49:40 AM
What is going to be different in March?
Nothing.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on August 08, 2020, 12:00:21 PM
What is going to be different in March?

hopefully vaccines and therapeutics.
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 12:18:59 PM
yeah, there should be vaccines available to more than just high risk by march
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 12:20:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1292146950490341377
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Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2020, 12:20:39 PM
What is going to be different in March?

hopefully vaccines and therapeutics.
At the very least, we don't yet know that spring football will be a disaster like we know it will be  if they try to play in the next three weeks
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 12:23:23 PM
yeah, they could just cancel it for spring if needed
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Post by: Brock Landers on August 08, 2020, 12:26:03 PM
The SEC will be the only conference left and multiple teams will claim a Natty for his year.
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Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2020, 12:30:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1292146950490341377

maybe that is worded poorly but it's kind of sad that the biggest issue is maybe getting sued and not like people dying in their communities.

Kinda like the HS sports discussion, when it comes to risk, sports are secondary to bringing everyone back on campus and into dorms and house parties and bars and stuff. I'm guessing university presidents realize this but can't say it out loud yet
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 12:31:55 PM
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1292148422007496706
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
damn, soothsayer steve dave does it again. incredible.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2020, 12:39:03 PM
Not now, SD. Not now...


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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
if you chuds would learn to trust every word I say you would already be at the 5th stage of grief ahead of everyone else
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2020, 12:45:52 PM
T’s & P’s, professors!


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2020, 12:46:15 PM
if you chuds would learn to trust every word I say you would already be at the 5th stage of grief ahead of everyone else



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Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2020, 12:54:12 PM
Not going to lie I’m crushed.  When does CBB get cancelled SD?  Kind of feels like the beginning of the end of college sports as we know it.
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Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2020, 12:59:35 PM
Not going to lie I’m crushed.  When does CBB get cancelled SD?  Kind of feels like the beginning of the end of college sports as we know it.
I think CBB will get cancelled after multiple fall semester outbreaks lead to sending everyone home
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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 01:12:38 PM
another factor is that nobody GAF about college basketball because it doesn't generate football revenue
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Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2020, 01:15:27 PM
How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?
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Post by: pissclams on August 08, 2020, 01:39:34 PM
How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?
is this a serious question?
come on, dude
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2020, 01:43:23 PM
I might get into some hardcore drugs this fall


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Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2020, 05:13:27 PM
To state the obvious, this is going to eff up a lot of ADs. 
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Post by: lakesbison on August 08, 2020, 05:55:15 PM
#pussificationofAmerica happening in front of our eyes.

7500-10,000 Americans DIE everyday of something..

21+ days of 1000-1200 "Covid" deaths.  id say we can only truly count about half of them. (rest are pneumonia,  heart attacks etc)

we are shutting down this country for this?  cmonnn man.
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 08, 2020, 06:52:21 PM
#pussificationofAmerica happening in front of our eyes.

7500-10,000 Americans DIE everyday of something..

21+ days of 1000-1200 "Covid" deaths.  id say we can only truly count about half of them. (rest are pneumonia,  heart attacks etc)

we are shutting down this country for this?  cmonnn man.

i don't listen to joe rogan because he seems like a giant idiot and so do all of the people who listen to him, but is this a joe rogan talking point?
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 08, 2020, 08:33:23 PM
Hey SD, stop your victory tour beers...


https://twitter.com/tribunedanny/status/1292195441401122821?s=21


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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2020, 09:00:40 PM
No reason college football can't be done with people following protocols and reduced attendance etc. etc.

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Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2020, 09:25:31 PM
Hey SD, stop your victory tour beers...


https://twitter.com/tribunedanny/status/1292195441401122821?s=21


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how horny would that be if it weren't for covid though
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 08, 2020, 09:45:23 PM
How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?
It doesn't, certainly not like we know. They'd literally have to get a billion dollar loan. Just losing the tournament alone for two years is a $1.5 billion dollar loss in television and gate revenue.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on August 08, 2020, 09:49:36 PM
What are their expenses if no one does crap though?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2020, 09:58:01 PM
Everything about the US college system is gonna be pretty shaky because of covid
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2020, 10:23:30 PM
What are their expenses if no one does crap though?


Looks like about 500 million


Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 08, 2020, 10:54:45 PM
What are their expenses if no one does crap though?


Looks like about 500 million

After NCAA expenses the rest of that money gets distributed to all NCAA schools, every division. For the non FBS and like the top 20 FCS schools, this is the biggest infusion of cash they get.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 09, 2020, 01:29:14 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/power-five-ads-inevitable-2020-college-football-season-will-not-be-played-this-fall/
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 09, 2020, 01:37:28 PM
if you chuds would learn to trust every word I say you would already be at the 5th stage of grief ahead of everyone else

I've been there on practically everything since March. It's much easier to lower the bar to the floor and then have something slightly positive happen than it is to just imagine like we got this and then be disappointed.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 09, 2020, 01:50:54 PM
Yikes. Sorry about your low T.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 09, 2020, 02:43:10 PM
Dodd has been one of the CononaBro writers who has been walking the edge of openly wanting the season to be cancelled.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 09, 2020, 04:29:48 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 09, 2020, 06:13:18 PM
https://twitter.com/bypatforde/status/1292596003108003840
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 09, 2020, 06:19:21 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
I don't know if anyone in the world wants college football to be played more than you, bud. You've been on a fascinating journey with this thread.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 09, 2020, 06:21:21 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
I don't know if anyone in the world wants college football to be played more than you, bud. You've been on a fascinating journey with this thread.
https://twitter.com/trevorlawrencee/status/1292599402784325632
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 09, 2020, 06:23:39 PM
Yikes. Sorry about your low T.


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That part thankfully is ok, but, yeah, I live heavily on the happiness = reality - expectations equation and since reality sucks ass I have to adjust my expectations or else it's a tough go. Better than a KITN every other day.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on August 09, 2020, 06:43:40 PM
could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?

because it's irrelevant.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 09, 2020, 07:04:56 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
Um....wut?  :confused: Nobody writes that story because only an idiot would write that story.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 09, 2020, 07:40:34 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?
I don't know if anyone in the world wants college football to be played more than you, bud. You've been on a fascinating journey with this thread.
https://twitter.com/trevorlawrencee/status/1292599402784325632

This is hilarious coming from a Clemson player. Dabo was an earlier leader in the “we’ll just get through this and kick it in the teeth” & the real source of all these issues is not enough people have Jesus & traveling during quarantine rather than promoting social distancing & wearing masks.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on August 09, 2020, 08:28:13 PM
Dodd has been one of the CononaBro writers who has been walking the edge of openly wanting the season to be cancelled.

So people don't die or have long term health issues.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 09, 2020, 08:39:13 PM
Dodd has been one of the CononaBro writers who has been walking the edge of openly wanting the season to be cancelled.

So people don't die or have long term health issues.
It's kind of ironic that the person who coined the term "coronabros" and makes the claim that people are cheering for the virus more than anyone probably stands to gain the most if college football is cancelled or postponed. And the traditional sportswriters being accused of cheering for the virus probably stand to lose the most
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 09, 2020, 09:46:01 PM
LOL, the sportswriters will have volumes of things to write about in terms of speculation about what's going to happen next, and to repeatedly opine on how things have been handled.

Dennis Dodd writes what?  1 or 2 columns a week during the season and most of them are lame AF anyway.   When it comes to writing about the actual business of college athletics Dennis Dodd is unequivocally an uneducated and ill informed dolt.

Bucket . . . why are people going to die?   Players have died playing football, yet every week during the season, collectively 1000's of game are played all over the country.   People who are afraid of dying playing football are told, "well, then the game probably isn't for  you".   Players are maimed, turned into paraplegics,  quadriplegics and have their life potentially shortened with every hit and blow to the head,  yet football is still the biggest game in America.   

Now were supposed to believe that people are utterly incapable of following any protocols? 

P5 football players are in the top 1%, if not the top .5% of the  world in terms of health care access, oversight and care.

 







Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2020, 09:51:10 PM
Dax, you do understand that rona is contagious and a broken neck is not, right?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 09, 2020, 09:57:32 PM
:lol:

Incredible.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 09, 2020, 10:04:08 PM
Dax, you do understand that rona is contagious and a broken neck is not, right?

Yet football players face the reality of a broken neck on every single play of every single game and practice.   Haven't heard of a game or practice called yet for potential of being turned into a vegetable.

The mortality rate of that age group rivals that of a bad flu and pneumonia season, yet we keep right on playing the games during a bad flu seasons.  In this state, the mortality rate of college age is .2%. P5 football players have access to better healthcare than 99% of American's.







Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 09, 2020, 10:12:35 PM
I wonder why I'm generally allowed to do my regular daily stuff but teams of football players that will play other teams of college football players in one of their locations aren't going to be allowed the same.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 09, 2020, 10:13:07 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?

Look at this idiot.
HEALTH SCARE
NFL Star Cameron Smith Needs Open-Heart Surgery After Positive COVID-19 Test.
Yea, it doesn't cause any problems; it's just like the flu.  This is the kind of crap the college AD's don't want to deal with, as in liability for long term heath issues.
                                               
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2020, 10:26:46 PM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 09, 2020, 10:34:52 PM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?

Look at this idiot.
HEALTH SCARE
NFL Star Cameron Smith Needs Open-Heart Surgery After Positive COVID-19 Test.
Yea, it doesn't cause any problems; it's just like the flu.  This is the kind of crap the college AD's don't want to deal with, as in liability for long term heath issues.
                                             

LOL, people can have serious complications from practically any illness.   

Just the Flu kills people.  Some years, just the flu kills tens of thousands of people.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Cire on August 09, 2020, 11:09:39 PM
THE KIDS NEEEEEEEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!*



*and play college football


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 09, 2020, 11:12:45 PM
In 9 hours, on campus class starts at a bunch of schools.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on August 10, 2020, 08:34:23 AM
Why can't we just surround the fields with grocery shelves to stave off the virus? 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 08:37:49 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wiley on August 10, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
im guessing the athletes will have a lower risk of Covid infection if there is a season then if there isn't. Does any one write that story? could it be that a college fb season actually reduces the risk of covid infection for those participating? why isn't there a discussion?

Look at this idiot.
HEALTH SCARE
NFL Star Cameron Smith Needs Open-Heart Surgery After Positive COVID-19 Test.
Yea, it doesn't cause any problems; it's just like the flu.  This is the kind of crap the college AD's don't want to deal with, as in liability for long term heath issues.
                                             
I'm pretty sure he was born with this (or a statement from Cameron made it appear that way).

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 09:09:55 AM
https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292818410208985090
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 09:10:17 AM
Why can't we just surround the fields with grocery shelves to stave off the virus? 

amazing
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2020, 09:10:31 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 09:24:38 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes. 

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 09:30:53 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes. 



absolutely.

and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 09:33:39 AM
FOLKS!


https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1292830897260175360


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 09:36:18 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes. 



absolutely.

and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.
Difference with on campus classes is that almost all major universities provide a virtual only option so essentially 100% of students can not show up and the show goes on. Can’t have football with zero players.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2020, 09:41:44 AM
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on August 10, 2020, 09:46:59 AM
Ben Sasse’s ability to insert himself in to the news in the most annoying dad way possible is unparalleled.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 09:51:18 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes. 



absolutely.

and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.
Difference with on campus classes is that almost all major universities provide a virtual only option so essentially 100% of students can not show up and the show goes on. Can’t have football with zero players.


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yeah but a lot fewer students would sign up if they knew it was online only just like a lot of players would try to transfer out of the big 10 if they knew the season was cancelled but the SEC wasn't.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 09:56:59 AM
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 10:03:40 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes. 



absolutely.

and it's really mumped up that they waited until pretty much everyone has started practice to call it as if they didn't know what would happen. This just keeps people from transferring if the SEC decides they're gonna play. I'm guessing the in-person classes will follow suit after they have deposits and some dorm payments.

Handling a hybrid classroom environment and handling a football season under these circumstances is not even close to being some sort of magic voodoo unachievable goal.   Particularly with 6 months to prepare.

This is lawyers talking.

What does the Big 10 know now that they didn't know 5 days ago?   Nothing from a health perspective and clearly a lot from a legal perspective.


Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 10:04:23 AM
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370

OMG  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 10, 2020, 10:09:14 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.

I think they know they can’t handle football under strident healthcare oversight. They already had a process breakdown at Indiana. They had a kid test negative multiple times, then test positive, get pretty sick & now he has possible heart issues with abnormal blood tests showing heart issues. That they’ve already had a process failure with a potentially major impact keeps getting left out of the Big10 conversation.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 10, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
If they cancel football they need to cancel all on campus classes as well.

If they're afraid they can't handle football with the players under strident healthcare oversite and if they're afraid they can't handle 25% of the normal crowd with months to prepare.   Then they've clearly not fully prepared to have on campus classes.

I think they know they can’t handle football under strident healthcare oversight. They already had a process breakdown at Indiana. They had a kid test negative multiple times, then test positive, get pretty sick & now he has possible heart issues with abnormal blood tests showing heart issues. That they’ve already had a process failure with a potentially major impact keeps getting left out of the Big10 conversation.

Infections and illnesses are misdiagnosed all the time across the entire spectrum of healthcare.     Nearly every virus, illness and medical condition can create substantial complications in certain circumstances and in certain peopl
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 10:18:43 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 10:24:15 AM
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pounce
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 10, 2020, 10:24:48 AM
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370
LOL did they just conveniently forget that like half the ACC schools are in blue states?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 10, 2020, 10:29:26 AM
Sigh...


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 10, 2020, 10:30:19 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 10:31:32 AM
Incredible bait and switch job by 10 out of 12 BiG presidents.

Props to them for pulling off a huge con job, roping hundreds of thousands of students into on campus classes and keeping football players from transferring.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 10:32:15 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?

Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 10:36:13 AM
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 10, 2020, 10:39:24 AM
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.

That's my general feeling about Sasse's letter. Do you want football? Hell yeah, do you need it? Um, no. If you need it you got some issues to work through
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 10, 2020, 10:40:02 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?

Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 10, 2020, 10:40:48 AM
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!

If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 10:41:10 AM
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.

That's my general feeling about Sasse's letter. Do you want football? Hell yeah, do you need it? Um, no. If you need it you got some issues to work through

the majority of his voters have a lot of issues to work through
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 10:41:37 AM
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!

If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two

under no circumstances do we want mizzou back
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 10, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!

If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two

under no circumstances do we want mizzou back

It'll make ku so happy tho.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 10, 2020, 10:43:43 AM
The idea that anyone NEEDS a season is pretty mumped up.

That's my general feeling about Sasse's letter. Do you want football? Hell yeah, do you need it? Um, no. If you need it you got some issues to work through

the majority of his voters have a lot of issues to work through

MAGA gonna MAGA
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Institutional Control on August 10, 2020, 10:44:00 AM
https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1292844587489406977?s=20
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 10, 2020, 10:56:36 AM
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 11:01:10 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?

Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.

I'm not the dimwit incapable of understanding the primary reason (excuse)  the UP's are using to cancel the season.     

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 11:02:39 AM
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”

They all get tested multiple time a week.   They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2020, 11:02:52 AM
He definitely has issues.

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1292847141422018562
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 10, 2020, 11:05:11 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?

Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.

I'm not the dimwit incapable of understanding the primary reason (excuse)  the UP's are using to cancel the season.   
Ok, so you're arguing with a wall (something anyone that converses with you can relate to)
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 11:08:41 AM
Again, P5 athletes; in most cases recipients of better medical oversight and care than 99% plus of the rest of the world.

https://twitter.com/MattRheaPhD/status/1292573866464772099?s=20
It's not about the athletes you rough ridin' dumbass.

I didn't say it was you rough ridin' dipshit.
Then why are we talking about the quality of healthcare the ATHLETES receive?

Apparently you're utterly incapable of reading the room.
It amazes me that you remember to breathe sometimes.

I'm not the dimwit incapable of understanding the primary reason (excuse)  the UP's are using to cancel the season.   
Ok, so you're arguing with a wall (something anyone that converses with you can relate to)

Again, I'm not the dummy who attempted to project something that I never said.   I'll remind you again.  I never once said it was entirely just about the football players.   You were being dumb, and you're still being dumb.   Which is BAU for you.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 10, 2020, 11:13:28 AM
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”

They all get tested multiple time a week.   They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.

And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 11:16:22 AM
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”

They all get tested multiple time a week.   They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.

And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.

If they have absolutely no travel protocol and if the other team isn't practicing any type of protocol then you have a point.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on August 10, 2020, 11:27:28 AM
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”

They all get tested multiple time a week.   They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.

And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.

If they have absolutely no travel protocol and if the other team isn't practicing any type of protocol then you have a point.



too bad our country didn't protocol months ago, sounds like they really work
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 11:32:11 AM
Maybe, in fact probably. But one danger sports present that on campus classes don’t: getting a bunch of big sweaty people to fly in a big airplane from one area of the country to another so they can rub their big sweaty bodies all over each other and breathe real hard in each other’s faces. And then they get on a big airplane and fly home. “Yes let’s get our Kansas boys from a non-hotspot to fly on an airplane into a ‘rona hotspot to rub sweaty bodies all over people from a hotspot. Then we’ll all go back home. Also a lot of our fans will come, too.”

They all get tested multiple time a week.   They have an entire protocol in place, that's what they've been working on for 6 months.

And yet they still have absolute shitloads of teams suspending practice because cases keep ripping through their teams.

If they have absolutely no travel protocol and if the other team isn't practicing any type of protocol then you have a point.



too bad our country didn't protocol months ago, sounds like they really work

I want a protocol that is safe enough to allow college football but not so crazy that it closes bars or something like that.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 11:33:04 AM
Our top doctors told us not to wear masks.

Our politicians locked everyone up in their houses and only made it worse.   Initially, the mayor of our largest city told people to get out and party.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on August 10, 2020, 11:36:09 AM
athletes give up their right to not protocol the day they sign that scholarship offer, i made no such concession and have a god given american right to party balls yolo
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
athletes give up their right to not protocol the day they sign that scholarship offer, i made no such concession and have a god given american right to party balls yolo
It's important to note that while protocol allows me the right to go to bars, under no rough ridin' circumstances is Skyler Thompson allowed in aggieville
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on August 10, 2020, 11:50:39 AM
We still don't crack the top 25 even if the Big 10 and Pac 12 cancel their seasons.

 :cry:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 12:44:58 PM
https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1292877095044030464


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 10, 2020, 12:52:57 PM
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pounce

Texas admins need to write a heartfelt "we were wrong, please come back" letter in order to make this happen, IMO.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 12:54:39 PM
NU, imagine having at least one school you could look down your nose at again. WOW!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 12:56:13 PM
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1292863504337248256
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on August 10, 2020, 01:00:58 PM
how the turn tables indeed
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2020, 01:01:27 PM
eff Nebraska. I hope they never play another game.






*yes let them in, I miss them.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
bring'em home whatever the name of the boss of the Big 12 is

https://twitter.com/Sean_Callahan/status/1292859236213547008
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on August 10, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
I am for practically any scenario that rids this conference of Baylor. If we were to gain Nubs and Iowa... 2020 would turn into the best year ever.

I've been enjoying the roller coaster ride of speculation, but seeing how everything else is going, I have a sad feeling about how this is going to end (before it begins) for the BigXII.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
No crap, but still


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on August 10, 2020, 01:25:21 PM
If we were to gain Nubs and Iowa... 2020 would turn into the best year ever.
Think I have to disagree with this one
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2020, 01:31:38 PM
We just need to hold out until Nebraska leave the Big 10 for us, and then cancel the season on their asses.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 01:56:11 PM
If we were to gain Nubs and Iowa... 2020 would turn into the best year ever.
Think I have to disagree with this one

yeah, I can still remember some other better years for various reasons
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2020, 02:11:20 PM
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!

If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two

under no circumstances do we want mizzou back
Come on.  Look at this guy:
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 10, 2020, 02:13:20 PM
I wish nothing but sports sadness on mizzou
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2020, 02:17:38 PM
Missouri is my secondary school now because of (Future) Mrs. DQ.  I tacitly root for them.

More broadly, if this CFB season somehow brought us frankenstein conferences (including K-State), that would be the ideal scenario from my vantage point.  Let's see Iowa play West Virginia in the Big 12 Championship game or something.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Institutional Control on August 10, 2020, 02:21:02 PM
I'm fine with taking Mizzou back but eff Colorado. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2020, 02:23:01 PM
no i want colorado back too.  bring everyone back and tell weirdos WVU and TCU to amscray.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 02:25:04 PM
no i want colorado back too.  bring everyone back and tell weirdos WVU and TCU to amscray.

and baylor
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2020, 02:26:00 PM
no i want colorado back too.  bring everyone back and tell weirdos WVU and TCU to amscray.

and baylor
Yeah that's fine.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 10, 2020, 02:30:35 PM
Scott Frost is begging for an invite back to the Big12.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KITNfury on August 10, 2020, 02:37:28 PM
How many years until Nebraska would get full shares in the new sexy B12?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on August 10, 2020, 02:45:17 PM
Nebraska deserves a lifetime of playing Minnesota/Illinois/whoever else their fans don't care about.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 03:30:57 PM
Honestly if they're just gonna keep all the students on campus, might as well play

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1292916677877927936
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 03:47:45 PM
imagine the blockbuster ratings that FS1 and local FSN broadcasts will get if the big 10 and PAC sit out the season and we don't.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 10, 2020, 03:47:58 PM
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pounce
screw em. i hope their season is cancelled and everyone else gets to play. that might be the best season in the history of college fb
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 03:48:55 PM
This is our best opportunity to get Nebraska back in the conference and we should pounce
screw em. i hope their season is cancelled and everyone else gets to play. that might be the best season in the history of college fb

that's silly and juvenile. be a cool dude about us bringing back our bud/enemy.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 10, 2020, 03:50:58 PM
Our top doctors told us not to wear masks.

Our politicians locked everyone up in their houses and only made it worse.   Initially, the mayor of our largest city told people to get out and party.
and your point is?  you know things change over time right? how did the lockdown cause more infections?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 10, 2020, 03:54:44 PM
It would be a huge nut kick to the big 10 if Nebraska came back to the Big 12 and brought Iowa.  I think NU (and Big 12) needed a reason that doesn't make either of them look like complete clowns, and there will never be a better opportunity than CFB Year of COVID.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: _33 on August 10, 2020, 03:54:54 PM
Remember all the Neb fans on ksufans/early goEMAW?  What a glorious time on the internet.  Let's do it again.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 10, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
Remember all the Neb fans on ksufans/early goEMAW?  What a glorious time on the internet.  Let's do it again.

gE needs Nebraska just like Nebraska needs gE
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 10, 2020, 03:58:03 PM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 10, 2020, 04:04:35 PM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
I’m behind this
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 10, 2020, 04:19:02 PM
I'd be fine with kicking Tech out too. There is basically a zero percent chance that I will ever go to a game in Lubbock.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 10, 2020, 04:22:51 PM
It's fun in a weird kinda way. You should. Once.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2020, 04:27:03 PM
Imagine Nebraska coming back and then Texas using the deciding vote to cancel this season after one game.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 10, 2020, 04:34:05 PM
Would LOL.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 04:55:18 PM
Listening to Powl Powl Powl on the way back from a socially distanced mask wearing appointment (traveling on the jam packed with Northerners I-65 corridor, with their RV's, trailers, bicycles, tow racks, fishing rods lashed to the roof, and 8 kids all zonked out piled 2 deep in their gas guzzling American made SUV's). 

The SEC has invested a crap ton of $ into playing football this year.   Sankey is going to make any rash decisions.

To cRusty's point, it was brought up several times about if they're going to keep kids on campus they may as well play the games, and it was also pointed out that many of the student-athletes would be better off staying under the athletic department healthcare umbrella.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on August 10, 2020, 05:06:57 PM
Listening to Powl Powl Powl on the way back from a socially distanced mask wearing appointment (traveling on the jam packed with Northerners I-65 corridor, with their RV's, trailers, bicycles, tow racks, fishing rods lashed to the roof, and 8 kids all zonked out piled 2 deep in their gas guzzling American made SUV's). 

The SEC has invested a crap ton of $ into playing football this year.   Sankey is going to make any rash decisions.

To cRusty's point, it was brought up several times about if they're going to keep kids on campus they may as well play the games, and it was also pointed out that many of the student-athletes would be better off staying under the athletic department healthcare umbrella.

what are the top state plates you see coming down that way? I would love to see one of those vacation maps with where different regions go it would be a great addition to the maps thread.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 05:15:33 PM
Listening to Powl Powl Powl on the way back from a socially distanced mask wearing appointment (traveling on the jam packed with Northerners I-65 corridor, with their RV's, trailers, bicycles, tow racks, fishing rods lashed to the roof, and 8 kids all zonked out piled 2 deep in their gas guzzling American made SUV's). 

The SEC has invested a crap ton of $ into playing football this year.   Sankey is going to make any rash decisions.

To cRusty's point, it was brought up several times about if they're going to keep kids on campus they may as well play the games, and it was also pointed out that many of the student-athletes would be better off staying under the athletic department healthcare umbrella.

what are the top state plates you see coming down that way? I would love to see one of those vacation maps with where different regions go it would be a great addition to the maps thread.

Ill-Ohio-Mo, I don't count Tenn-Ken, after that IN, IA.   It appears that a number of out-of-state Collie Culters were traversing that corridor to I-10 West based on the number aTm stickers and looking at their academic calendar.   I don't know if they cancelled their usual cult like freak show pre-class start activities or not.





Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on August 10, 2020, 05:24:50 PM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
I’m behind this

(https://i.ibb.co/tbpMvpG/4b1j3l.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 10, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1292935194454892544?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 05:58:24 PM
There's at minimum, 12 other infections/conditions that can cause Myocarditis besides SARS-Covid-19.

As the SEC doc said, they monitor that situation after any type of infection in a student-athlete, and have for years.






Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 10, 2020, 06:16:27 PM
This is where that liability shield would come in super handy.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 07:45:22 PM
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https://twitter.com/mtsw/status/1292983813727907840
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Wrong forum, wrong thread

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2020, 10:36:22 PM
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370

Stupid. No offense of course.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2020, 10:39:51 PM
And we could get back to 12 by telling NU they can bring Iowa with them. And we can sweeten it even further by telling them psych, we're actually going to still be 10 teams because we're kicking out WV and Baylor!

If we could do that and get Colorado back from the Pac 12, and Mizzou from the SEC, yes please. I'll take two

Pass
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2020, 10:41:36 PM
He definitely has issues.

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1292847141422018562

A huge reason why that dumb rough ridin' map was dumb.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2020, 11:15:42 PM
I'm fine with taking Mizzou back but eff Colorado.

They're dumb rough ridin' weirdos that suck at everything but think they are amazing. ISU West. You white people cango hiking and skiing without them grossing up our crap. The weed thing isn't even unique anymore.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2020, 11:25:17 PM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
I’m behind this

(https://i.ibb.co/tbpMvpG/4b1j3l.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2020, 11:29:12 PM
https://twitter.com/MountainWest/status/1292951642430570496

didn't see this mentioned but I imagine all the G6 conferences will be doing this too
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 10, 2020, 11:42:37 PM
Those schools don't have the money to support a strident series of protocols.

The average MW school has a total athletic budget that's less than the Big 12 conference distribution just for TV.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 11, 2020, 01:57:46 AM
https://twitter.com/lukezim/status/1292851069761060864


Kinda Pit’y but also kinda LOL, so I’m leaving it.
Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2020, 07:15:58 AM
https://twitter.com/BrooksACarter/status/1292835001617338370

Stupid. No offense of course.
Oh none taken


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2020, 07:37:12 AM
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies?  Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech.  Am I wrong? :dunno:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 11, 2020, 07:38:39 AM
The Swine Flu pandemic infected 65m to 75m Americans and put just short of half a million Americans in the hospital.   At peak the Emergency rooms and ICU’s from coast to coast not a few cities, but nationwide, were nearly completely overwhelmed.  The only thing that saved the country from a mass casualty event measured in the hundreds of thousands instead of the tens of thousands.  Was the fact that swine flu was derived from a known and much less virulent virus.

Nothing stopped, in fact it was a punch line for the most part.

Now apparently, the notion of playing football in a controlled environment of social distancing, masking and limited, possibly no fan involvement in the venues.  With constant testing and constant medical oversight of the players is akin to some ghoulish desire to see people die?


Wow.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 11, 2020, 07:51:00 AM
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies?  Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech.  Am I wrong? :dunno:

UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies?  Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech.  Am I wrong? :dunno:

UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.

Doh, forgot UVA.  Yeah, so every one of those is a "red" state in SD/MIR's discussed map above then. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 11, 2020, 08:29:55 AM
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies?  Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech.  Am I wrong? :dunno:

UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.

Doh, forgot UVA.  Yeah, so every one of those is a "red" state in SD/MIR's discussed map above then.
Virginia is blue.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2020, 08:32:49 AM
Those stripes on Nebraska tho
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2020, 08:36:34 AM
https://twitter.com/lukezim/status/1292851069761060864


Kinda Pit’y but also kinda LOL, so I’m leaving it.

I LOL'd pretty hard
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on August 11, 2020, 10:39:13 AM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
I’m behind this

(https://i.ibb.co/tbpMvpG/4b1j3l.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.

Interesting. So how many TCU athletes have been accused of murdering or raping other people? How many TCU coaches have been fired for covering up scandals? How many TCU AD's and presidents have been removed from their positions after overseeing administrations that clearly covered up criminal behavior?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2020, 10:44:15 AM
Where would we say the "power" in the ACC lies?  Surely it's not with the late joining Northeast schools, is it? I had always assumed UNC, Duke, Clemson, Va Tech, Georgia Tech.  Am I wrong? :dunno:

UNC, Duke & UVA run the show is what fans of other ACC schools say. They just say Tobacco Road when talking about who makes conference decisions, but I think in that context it’s implied UVA is included.

Doh, forgot UVA.  Yeah, so every one of those is a "red" state in SD/MIR's discussed map above then.
Virginia is blue.

ISH

Quote
Of the state's eleven seats in the House of Representatives, Democrats hold seven and Republicans hold four. The state is widely considered blue-leaning, a trend which moves parallel with the growth of the Washington D.C. and Richmond suburbs.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 11, 2020, 10:45:39 AM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
I’m behind this

(https://i.ibb.co/tbpMvpG/4b1j3l.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.

Interesting. So how many TCU athletes have been accused of murdering or raping other people? How many TCU coaches have been fired for covering up scandals? How many TCU AD's and presidents have been removed from their positions after overseeing administrations that clearly covered up criminal behavior?

Don't bother, only a supreme idiot would advocate for Baylor purely for sports reasons.

They're easily one of the most corrupt and dirty athletic programs and institutions participating in D1 college athletics.    They always have been, back in the SWC days they were just as dirty as all the other SWC schools.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2020, 10:46:12 AM
And Ohio is an ISH as well.  The color coded map has exceptions, but the power base of each conference does appear to fall within that "side's" position on COVID protocols. 
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2020, 10:58:35 AM
I agree with all the "bring 'em back" arguments flying around here.  However, there is no rough ridin' way in hell that this conference ever "kicks someone out."  Will NEVER happen.  Ever.

counterpoint: we should kick baylor's ass completely out
I’m behind this

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They're literally better than TCU at everything. TCU, who is really good at deplorable scandals, aren't even best at that. Their greatest accomplishment is having a coach who sweats and says nigga a lot. Their other coach looks like a dollar tree ken doll dad.

Interesting. So how many TCU athletes have been accused of murdering or raping other people? How many TCU coaches have been fired for covering up scandals? How many TCU AD's and presidents have been removed from their positions after overseeing administrations that clearly covered up criminal behavior?

So you missed one of the four sentences in that paragraph, the one that intimates that Baylor is even better at deplorable scandals?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 11, 2020, 01:49:52 PM
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1293257058351902720
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Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2020, 02:03:55 PM
Assuming the PAC12 cancels too this may be our best opportunity to make the CFB Playoffs for a long time.
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Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2020, 02:04:22 PM
If we dont finish the season ranked in the top 25 I will be IRATE
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Post by: GregKSU1027 on August 11, 2020, 02:04:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/kstatesports/videos/348641219506133/

Klieman at the podium right now.
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Post by: DQ12 on August 11, 2020, 02:05:49 PM
Smell ya later, Big 10!  More college football for the rest of us!  :excited:
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Post by: Pete on August 11, 2020, 02:08:04 PM
Damn, this is our chance at one of the fictional Helms trophy type championships, guys!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2020, 02:10:35 PM
https://www.facebook.com/kstatesports/videos/348641219506133/

Klieman at the podium right now.

Klieman needs to get off the podium right now and start calling every single good player in the Big10 to see if they want to play football for Kansas State U this fall.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on August 11, 2020, 02:21:19 PM
The Big 12 should rename itself to The Only 1
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on August 11, 2020, 02:22:07 PM
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: GregKSU1027 on August 11, 2020, 02:35:21 PM
 :billdance:
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 11, 2020, 02:36:56 PM
:billdance:
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000

I dunno.  Who would be more fun to piss off?  big 10 or SEC?  Win/Win if you ask me.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: star seed 7 on August 11, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
I doubt the big10 gives any craps what the big 12 does
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 11, 2020, 03:00:26 PM
They are already making what will be a massive financial problem for these universities worse.

It is fundamentally insane to think it's BAU.   Send the general student body home, and keep the student athletes in the bubble.   Give the student athlete a chance to opt out.   

But if thee's no college football during this academic calendar year then the financial crisis that these universities face will be that much worse.   The institutional/corporate structure of the various athletic departments varies substantially.    Those athletic departments that rely on massive stipends from the academic side to meet their budgetary requirements will be an immediate drag on the balance sheet of the university or worse. 

For K-State Athletics Inc.  with only a dotted line to the greater university umbrella it could potentially run the gamut of insolvency to "just" substantially inconvenienced.    If it's the worst case scenario the academic side/the Regents/the legislature/the donors either in concert or acting unilaterally would have to decide if they want to bail out K-State Athletic's Inc.   It may very well depend on what kind of life support the B12 can throw it's members way in terms of keeping them whole financially.    In FY 2019 a total of $49 million dollars was contributed to K-State Athletics.  $20 million to the annual (operating) fund, and $29 million towards capital projects.    Even if people roll over their Ahearn (operating) contributions that's operating funds stretched out over 2 full fiscal years.   

If it's the worst case scenario across the entire spectrum of college athletics, there will be a new normal, and the list of schools involved will be shorter, potentially a lot shorter.   

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Post by: manpow5 on August 11, 2020, 03:00:41 PM
Pac12 done
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2020, 03:03:16 PM
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000

if the SEC is relying on the B12 the B12 should demand money
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 11, 2020, 03:17:11 PM
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000

if the SEC is relying on the B12 the B12 should demand money

This, we were the conference raided by these assholes, time to turn the tables
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2020, 03:42:12 PM
Idea - We let Nebraska rejoin the Big12 but make them play every game on the road until they get their TV Rights back.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: CHONGS on August 11, 2020, 03:45:38 PM
https://twitter.com/38Godfrey/status/1293262342915072000

if the SEC is relying on the B12 the B12 should demand money
I say we demand SEC Championship titles for all of the good teams in the conference (KSU, Texas, OU).
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2020, 03:51:06 PM
EVERYONE COME SUCK OUR DICKS AND VAGS IMMEDIATELY
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 11, 2020, 04:22:58 PM
SEC wants our WAP
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 11, 2020, 04:32:04 PM
SEC wants our WAP

Oh boy we better get ourselves checked at planned parenthood by Ben Shapiro's wife.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2020, 04:36:33 PM
Macaroni in the pot, that's some Big 12 Football
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BostonPancake on August 11, 2020, 04:42:28 PM
https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1293280165603287047?s=21

Who is in the cancel group??

I can see KSU, Texas, ISU and WVU in the let’s go camp.  Where is everyone else?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 11, 2020, 04:47:18 PM
So Big 10 teams are still practicing?  Wtf?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 11, 2020, 04:47:52 PM
https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1293280165603287047?s=21

Who is in the cancel group??

I can see KSU, Texas, ISU and WVU in the let’s go camp.  Where is everyone else?

There’s only 10 teams.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sys on August 11, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 11, 2020, 04:57:44 PM
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.
honestly that seems like the best idea.  there's really no reason i can think of to cancel before you absolutely have to.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 11, 2020, 04:58:19 PM
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.

And one that would go along with whatever the large group is.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 11, 2020, 05:00:12 PM
How I see it:

Play:
Texas, OU

Cancel:
KU (duh)

Delay:
Pretty much everyone else
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BostonPancake on August 11, 2020, 05:00:43 PM
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.

Klieman said in his press conference that gen. Myers wants to play.  So, I am going to assume that is true.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 11, 2020, 05:12:53 PM
They have a General as President. They’re pro, just like Kli said in the presser.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 11, 2020, 05:15:54 PM
https://twitter.com/DavezONAIR/status/1293288978846711808
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 11, 2020, 05:50:53 PM
https://twitter.com/DavezONAIR/status/1293288978846711808

The best part is that he just finished lecturing about events you can't control and responding positively. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
https://twitter.com/DavezONAIR/status/1293288978846711808

The best part is that he just finished lecturing about events you can't control and responding positively.
LOL
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KITNfury on August 11, 2020, 07:28:43 PM
That crap is hilariously wut
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 11, 2020, 07:57:35 PM
Big Pres’:  You fuckers get to class, pay your tuition and fee’s, you players enjoy that 7 months of workouts don’t get the Rona.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2020, 08:02:03 PM
kstate seems like a delay-minded school.

Klieman said in his press conference that gen. Myers wants to play.  So, I am going to assume that is true.

Gene also wants to play. K-State is absolutely 100% in the we want to play now group.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on August 11, 2020, 08:28:27 PM
Hope rising!!!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BostonPancake on August 11, 2020, 08:28:57 PM
I think it’s pretty clear OU is in the no go / on the fence group.  If Texas and OU both want to play football, we’re playing football.  Plus they sent their players home, stating they could use a break since they won’t be playing on August 29th.  Sadly, this is just another kick the can down the road move. 

Really, if they want to play we should start as soon as possible.  Everyone is healthy now.  Why wait until a month from now?  Baseball is played a solid month after school ends.  We should have started football a month early and created a temporary bubble without the rest of the students on campus  Could have played a third of the schedule.

Ugghhh....just rambling.  Feel numb.  This sucks.  😕
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
Great idea for COVID but you can't be playing football games in this country in July and August. That's more dangerous than coronavirus.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on August 11, 2020, 08:37:40 PM
Let's play 22 games next fall!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BostonPancake on August 11, 2020, 08:40:55 PM
Great idea for COVID but you can't be playing football games in this country in July and August. That's more dangerous than coronavirus.

Night games?  11 AM games?  Hell, I’d wake up for a 6 AM game.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 11, 2020, 08:45:11 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: I know it’s a terrible source, but still that we’ve gotten to the point anyone could tweet this. :lol:

https://twitter.com/tribunedanny/status/1293347104522371075?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 11, 2020, 08:54:59 PM
Just trade ISU to Big 10 for Nebraska and cash considerations and call it a day.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Phil Titola on August 11, 2020, 08:56:40 PM
this is the type of twitter drama I have been needing since March!
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Post by: wetwillie on August 11, 2020, 09:03:35 PM
A little surprised soothsayer Dave didn’t see this coming. 
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 11, 2020, 09:13:35 PM
He’s rooting for the virus at this point, W^2.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2020, 10:48:01 PM
eff Nebraska, keep them flopping like fish on hot concrete. Some of y'all are the type to let your crazy ex that you had passionate sex with back into your life then she microwaves your cat.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 11, 2020, 10:59:42 PM
eff Nebraska, keep them flopping like fish on hot concrete. Some of y'all are the type to let your crazy ex that you had pancake sex with back into your life then she microwaves your cat.
let NEB die a slow death. dont do them any favors.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on August 11, 2020, 11:04:11 PM
I think it’s pretty clear OU is in the no go / on the fence group.  If Texas and OU both want to play football, we’re playing football.  Plus they sent their players home, stating they could use a break since they won’t be playing on August 29th.  Sadly, this is just another kick the can down the road move. 

Really, if they want to play we should start as soon as possible.  Everyone is healthy now.  Why wait until a month from now?  Baseball is played a solid month after school ends.  We should have started football a month early and created a temporary bubble without the rest of the students on campus  Could have played a third of the schedule.

Ugghhh....just rambling.  Feel numb.  This sucks.  😕
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Riley was against starting workouts in June. Then he publicly stated he thought spring football was very "doable". OU has been less than enthusiastic from the outset. Maybe he's just trying to get several extra months of practice for his freshman QB
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 12, 2020, 06:27:03 AM
eff Nebraska, keep them flopping like fish on hot concrete. Some of y'all are the type to let your crazy ex that you had passionate sex with back into your life then she microwaves your cat.

The sex was so good tho
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 12, 2020, 07:30:52 AM
We’re talking about Dwight and Angela now, aren’t we? What a reference.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 12, 2020, 07:39:49 AM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 12, 2020, 07:40:45 AM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KITNfury on August 12, 2020, 08:01:50 AM
Bunch a Riley Gates mfers in here. Definitely take Nebraska back. They would be the one coming back, hat in hand and egg on face, not the Big 12.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: LickNeckey on August 12, 2020, 08:04:51 AM
Bunch a Riley Gates mfers in here. Definitely take Nebraska back. They would be the one coming back, hat in hand and egg on face, not the Big 12.

nah, fuckem

let them lie in the crap stained bed they have made for themselves
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Phil Titola on August 12, 2020, 08:11:22 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLIruXXsAESoS0?format=jpg&name=large)

Have I missed why the SEC and ACC need the Big 12 to stay in?
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Post by: ben ji on August 12, 2020, 08:16:31 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfLIruXXsAESoS0?format=jpg&name=large)

Have I missed why the SEC and ACC need the Big 12 to stay in?

To have some sort of legitimacy to the season. If more than half of the Power5 conferences play football this fall we can all call the BIG/PAC school's pussies/snowflakes/libtards for being afraid of some virus.

If the Big12 decides not to play than over half the P5 conferences will have said "Nah, I'm good" and the SEC/ACC will look like the rube's they are if they go try to play a season.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Phil Titola on August 12, 2020, 08:19:25 AM
OK that was my initial thought but I wasn't sure if I was missing something bigger.
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Post by: steve dave on August 12, 2020, 09:52:10 AM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Cire on August 12, 2020, 09:53:17 AM
lol


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Post by: DaBigTrain on August 12, 2020, 09:54:10 AM
LOL
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Post by: chum1 on August 12, 2020, 09:55:32 AM
Lol
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Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2020, 10:44:13 AM
eff it, let's do this crap!

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1293571151046868992
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 12, 2020, 10:49:52 AM
1 month away from today!!!


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 11:00:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfMnnn_XYAIbsiB?format=jpg&name=large)

I laughed and laughed hard but Nebraska is no Cady Herron.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on August 12, 2020, 11:00:50 AM
STARTING ON THE ROAD AGAIN!  :curse:
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Post by: ben ji on August 12, 2020, 11:05:11 AM
eff it, let's do this crap!

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1293571151046868992

I see us at 7-1 in Big12 play when TX comes to town....trip to the Big12 Title game and a rematch with OU on the line.  :excited: :excited: :excited:

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on August 12, 2020, 11:10:01 AM
Intersting... nothing with the Baylor game changed.

Still... football is going to be here!!!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 11:12:10 AM
eff it, let's do this crap!

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1293571151046868992

Goddamnit. The flood aggie game has been changed from the beautiful fall, to the dead ass of winter.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MadCat on August 12, 2020, 12:28:57 PM
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!
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Post by: steve dave on August 12, 2020, 12:47:47 PM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 12, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
LOL, there is no where to go except into our open arms.
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Post by: DQ12 on August 12, 2020, 01:13:06 PM
i voted on all 7 (!!!) of my twitter accounts.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: pissclams on August 12, 2020, 01:44:31 PM
i really like that polls let you see the results without voting, sometimes it can be too hard to commit to something
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 01:50:34 PM
Great podcast from Andy Staples on what went down yesterday. It starts out with a great explanation on why what the Big 10 did might be what's best for them but how the Big 12 is in a different situation. Clay Travis hive or anyone else who thinks there are only two sides of this with only one correct answer can learn a few things.

His chicken ribs ad will make you die a little inside though.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/big-ten-and-pac-12-postpone-the-2020-football-season/id1477536795?i=1000487861747
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
https://twitter.com/kyleumlang/status/1293371035841110021
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Post by: Katpappy on August 12, 2020, 07:24:07 PM
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!

I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game.  They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling.  He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard.  I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening. 
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 12, 2020, 09:40:08 PM
https://twitter.com/kyleumlang/status/1293371035841110021
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2020, 10:31:12 PM
https://twitter.com/kyleumlang/status/1293371035841110021
281 330 8004
That tweet made me listen to it on Spotify. I don't think I'd heard it in like ten years.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 12, 2020, 10:39:12 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 13, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864

I don't get it.
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Post by: ben ji on August 13, 2020, 09:41:16 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864

I don't get it.

The gif in reply to Kyle's tweet is a famous scene from The Wolf of Wall Street where Leonardo Dicaprio's character is banned from his company by to feds for doing shady stuff. He stands up in front of all his traders and declares that "I'm not rough ridin' leaving" and they all celebrate and go wild.

In this recreation of that famous scene Texas is declaring that they are not leaving fall football and the ACC and SEC go crazy celebrating because if Texas/Big12 decided to cancel the fall season they probably would have had to cancel as well.

It would be better if instead of the Texas logo they had the big 12 logo.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 13, 2020, 09:53:03 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864

I don't get it.

The gif in reply to Kyle's tweet is a famous scene from The Wolf of Wall Street where Leonardo Dicaprio's character is banned from his company by to feds for doing shady stuff. He stands up in front of all his traders and declares that "I'm not rough ridin' leaving" and they all celebrate and go wild.

In this recreation of that famous scene Texas is declaring that they are not leaving fall football and the ACC and SEC go crazy celebrating because if Texas/Big12 decided to cancel the fall season they probably would have had to cancel as well.

It would be better if instead of the Texas logo they had the big 12 logo.

Ah, now I get it.  I didn't catch the whole "If UT doesn't play, then we likely can't play" thing.  It's an intentional slap in the face that they didn't use a big 12 logo, but I must admit that it's probably accurate to merely use UT.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 13, 2020, 10:13:42 AM
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!

I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game.  They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling.  He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard.  I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening. 
 :ROFL:

not to notpick but it was 12/1/12, I know this because it happened on my birthday  :cool:


It was also an insanely warm game for a night in december. Upper 30s IIRC
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 13, 2020, 10:49:01 AM
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!

I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game.  They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling.  He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard.  I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening. 
 :ROFL:

not to notpick but it was 12/1/12, I know this because it happened on my birthday  :cool:


It was also an insanely warm game for a night in december. Upper 30s IIRC

Ya, it was 12/1/12, but the point was they can't stand the cold weather.  They also said the same thing about a Nebraska game that had a light snow falling with a light breeze.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 13, 2020, 10:58:10 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1293400719995940864

I don't get it.

The horns up should have given it away.  I take it that they are rubbing it in the face of the Nubs, since that was their reason for leaving.  I think it was Tom who said Texas planning on leaving was the main reason for going to the stable Big Ten. LOL
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 13, 2020, 11:06:22 AM
Texas is going to love Manhattan in December!

I remember when they interviewed Mack Brown after the 12/05/12 title game.  They asked him about playing at KSU during the snow falling.  He said it was hard on his team to play in a blizzard.  I was at the game and it only lightly snowed with a light wind that evening. 
 :ROFL:

not to notpick but it was 12/1/12, I know this because it happened on my birthday  :cool:


It was also an insanely warm game for a night in december. Upper 30s IIRC

Ya, it was 12/1/12, but the point was they can't stand the cold weather.  They also said the same thing about a Nebraska game that had a light snow falling with a light breeze.

Oh for sure, they will definitely hate the "cold" weather
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 13, 2020, 11:20:17 AM
It hasn't been ruled out that the cold on that 2012 night added a bit of a spark to the Mask's decision to liberate itself from Craigers right as that game concluded.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: lakesbison on August 13, 2020, 05:06:46 PM
There better be College football!!!

#pussificationofAmerica
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 13, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
Not for you guys, maybe next year if you're lucky.   :ROFL:
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Post by: DaBigTrain on August 13, 2020, 08:56:37 PM
KSU vs OU from last year is on ESPNU rn
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 13, 2020, 09:26:57 PM
I think we won that one
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 13, 2020, 10:18:00 PM
I think we won that one
We did!
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Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1294687795655606273
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Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2020, 01:07:40 PM
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1294687795655606273
Sys said that wouldn't be a big deal because you still have the lab bottlenecks
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Post by: Katpappy on August 15, 2020, 01:09:07 PM
GAME CHANGER!!!
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Post by: Trim on August 15, 2020, 01:11:51 PM
Good job, NBA.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 15, 2020, 01:15:49 PM
It may not solve the fan problem, but it will do wonders for football.
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Post by: wetwillie on August 15, 2020, 01:31:31 PM
Is this the thing sys posted about last week that I crap on?
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Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2020, 01:33:37 PM
Is this the thing sys posted about last week that I crap on?
No, that one (or those) supposedly offered at-home results
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 15, 2020, 02:28:51 PM
Gosh, does this mean some actual positivity coming from CoronaBro-We're all gonna die Nation?

Stay Tuned.

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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 15, 2020, 07:18:34 PM
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1294687795655606273
Sys said that wouldn't be a big deal because you still have the lab bottlenecks
Damn! Oh well. Nice try everyone. Back to the drawing board I guess.


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Post by: sys on August 15, 2020, 08:33:08 PM
Sys said that wouldn't be a big deal because you still have the lab bottlenecks

i don't think i said that.

i think i said something about it being different from the test everybody, every day, super cheap paper tests that mina is pushing because it's still a pcr test.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 15, 2020, 08:55:56 PM
One sentence summary:
SalivaDirect is an extraction-free, dualplex RT-qPCR laboratory developed test validated with reagents
and instruments from multiple vendors and submitted for FDA Emergency Use Authorization.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 15, 2020, 09:03:21 PM
Also, a key here is that it's cost's them $4 and will price the test at $10 to $16.  The lowest priced test is $160 right now.  It will be affordable for college AD's to do multiple test on athletes, which isn't possible right now due to costs.
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Post by: Pete on August 16, 2020, 09:24:51 AM
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through



Yes, this may be greatest part ever.
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 09:59:54 AM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
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Post by: TheHamburglar on August 16, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
lmao at the teams that called it if this comes through



Yes, this may be greatest part ever.

Can’t wait for round 2 of the Nebraska meltdown.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 11:38:14 AM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 12:33:12 PM
https://twitter.com/GregWWoods/status/1295039063456718849

https://twitter.com/GregWWoods/status/1295046130695200768
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 16, 2020, 01:04:16 PM
Greg is such a dork


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 16, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
It's very difficult to ask an age group that is more likely to die from a myriad of other reasons, to socially distance and put on face masks.

That age group has a 99.8% survival rate from Covid-19



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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 16, 2020, 01:45:28 PM
Especially when they’re all horned up 24/7/365


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Post by: sys on August 16, 2020, 02:04:14 PM
personally, i think that not killing old people should be motivation enough to comply with public health guidelines, but that's just me.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 16, 2020, 02:14:34 PM
They complied for 6+ months like they were supposed to. When does it end?


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Post by: chum1 on August 16, 2020, 02:21:50 PM
I'm less surprised by the selfishness than by the complete lack of shame about it.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 02:26:53 PM
personally, i think that not killing old people should be motivation enough to comply with public health guidelines, but that's just me.
The students are complying with local regulations. The city could shut down bars and KSU could shift to 100% online if they cared about old people dying.
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Post by: sys on August 16, 2020, 02:37:11 PM
yes, manhattan and kansas should take those actions, but them not doing so does not render people living in those jurisdictions incapable of behaving ethically on their own.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 02:41:52 PM
yes, manhattan and kansas should take those actions, but them not doing so does not render people living in those jurisdictions incapable of behaving ethically on their own.
They're also following the CDC guidelines as far as I can tell. So when basically every level of government authority is telling them that going to bars is safe, I'm not sure how they know enough to determine that their behavior is unethical.

Not everyone closely follows the coronabros thread like we do
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Post by: sys on August 16, 2020, 03:00:14 PM
every level of government is not telling them that it is safe to socialize in crowded bars.  that's absolutely ridiculous, michigancat.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 03:16:51 PM
every level of government is not telling them that it is safe to socialize in crowded bars.  that's absolutely ridiculous, michigancat.
By allowing bars to open, government officials are absolutely saying it's safe. Patrons should be able to trust the health department to create and enforce covid guidelines that ensure the safety of the community, just like they do with things like kitchen sanitation.
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 03:37:09 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 03:59:11 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.
Yeah her post was interesting.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3310231629063564&id=100002302797604&anchor_composer=false

It's pretty clear her orders aren't enforced by the bars (or anyone else) but they aren't exactly obvious to the general public either. Like if I hadn't read that post I wouldn't know that I had to sit and only be served and consume at the table if I walked into a bar. That's really the only violation I see to the orders.


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Post by: sys on August 16, 2020, 04:07:23 PM
By allowing bars to open, government officials are absolutely saying it's safe. Patrons should be able to trust the health department to create and enforce covid guidelines that ensure the safety of the community, just like they do with things like kitchen sanitation.

government is sending mixed messages, and/or is messaging ineffectively are accurate observations.
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Post by: BostonPancake on August 16, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.

This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 16, 2020, 06:24:31 PM
They’ll just transition to house/frat parties instead. Maybe country roads, but you won’t slow them down if they’re allowed to be on campus during the pandemic.


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Post by: I_have_purplewood on August 16, 2020, 06:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.

This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.

What does time have to do with anything?  Amount of people?
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 06:45:23 PM
After 10, people are there exclusively to get drunk and sloppy, too.
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Post by: BostonPancake on August 16, 2020, 07:05:52 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.

This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.

What does time have to do with anything?  Amount of people?

Yes, as more people show up we need more room for them to spread out.  I was in Breckenridge, CO a few weeks ago and they shut down the main street in their downtown area so restaurants and other business could operate outside.  It seemed to work well.
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 07:12:53 PM
I don't know if this is rational or quantifiable, but I'd feel more comfortable on a slightly crowded patio or street than I would at an indoor bar with "social distancing"
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Post by: bucket on August 16, 2020, 07:30:38 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.

This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.

What does time have to do with anything?  Amount of people?

Yes, as more people show up we need more room for them to spread out.  I was in Breckenridge, CO a few weeks ago and they shut down the main street in their downtown area so restaurants and other business could operate outside.  It seemed to work well.

It'd be fun as hell too.
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Post by: Kid In the Hall on August 16, 2020, 09:17:39 PM
Was in town this afternoon and walked by O'Malley's. They had a paper sign made by the Aggieville Business Association posted on the front door that said they take COVID seriously, are adopting preventative measures, etc. And, as a testament to their efforts, the sign said they've reduced their maximum capacity to 75% of normal operations.

Everything's under control.
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 10:08:57 PM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.

This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.

What does time have to do with anything?  Amount of people?

Have you never been to Aggieville? Do you not realize most of the businesses there aren't bars that rely on business from people other than 21 year olds trying to get laid?
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 16, 2020, 10:17:04 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 10:21:44 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?
Does it count if I'm surprised people are surprised?
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 10:26:57 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 10:35:29 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 16, 2020, 10:41:29 PM
I'd be less surprised if K-State isn't back to online only within the next 3 weeks
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 10:44:19 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2020, 11:01:45 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
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Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2020, 11:04:45 PM
I don’t think it’s too much to ask of adults that are in college to realize the situation we are all in.  yes more leadership at the government level would help but let’s not absolve responsibility because “they’re kids”.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 16, 2020, 11:12:18 PM
I don’t think it’s too much to ask of adults that are in college to realize the situation we are all in.  yes more leadership at the government level would help but let’s not absolve responsibility because “they’re kids”.
if the bars weren't open it wouldn't really matter. they'd find a way
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Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2020, 11:13:09 PM


anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.

Agreed, I'm just saying that crap like this happens wherever you open bars, regardless of age or location.
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Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2020, 11:19:05 PM
look at ny, people are hosting big block parties.  same in la.  would it hurt? no of course not.  this is a very american problem
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Post by: I_have_purplewood on August 17, 2020, 07:33:45 AM
https://twitter.com/nellyfish_13/status/1294802260791369734
Once again, why do people expect to see people wearing masks in bars

If bars are allowed to open, there will be unmasked people. Blame officials for letting bars to open and students to come back to campus, I think it's dumb to blame the students.

I think the lack of distancing is the bigger issue, and I do agree with you that the fault lies with the city of Manhattan and Riley County. The mayor's role in documenting what's happening is interesting. To me the fix is pretty easy, close Manhattan Ave., Moro, and 12th streets in Aggieville after 10:00PM and allow the bars to serve and outside.

Yes, the students should do the right thing but there are lots of laws created to save us from ourselves including distancing and mask laws in other places. The government has an obligation to protect the people in the community that aren't hanging out in Aggieville.

This is absolutely what should be done, although I would close the streets down earlier / altogether on Fridays and Saturdays.

What does time have to do with anything?  Amount of people?

Have you never been to Aggieville? Do you not realize most of the businesses there aren't bars that rely on business from people other than 21 year olds trying to get laid?

Of course I have and do realize this.  I'm not sure choosing 10 as the witching hour would be the solution.  They'll just go down a little earlier or cram the outside areas as you suggested.  It's not a bad idea but as you said it falls on making more stringent rules/laws.  And as wacky suggested, they'll just find other avenues such as fraternities or house parties. 
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Post by: chum1 on August 17, 2020, 08:28:50 AM
Quote
Some universities are already battling coronavirus outbreaks, including the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill — where four viral clusters have emerged one week after in-person classes started — and Oklahoma State University, where a single sorority house has 23 confirmed cases.
...
At Auburn University, wide receiver Anthony Schwartz tweeted Saturday that he had “seen crowds of people and none of them are wearing masks.” Chris Owens, a center at the University of Alabama, tweeted a photo on Sunday afternoon of a crowd of students with barely any face coverings in sight, asking: “How about we social distance and have more than a literal handful of people wear a mask? Is that too much to ask Tuscaloosa?”

https://twitter.com/chriscmooney/status/1295332142822686720
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Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2020, 08:56:32 AM
Quote
Some universities are already battling coronavirus outbreaks, including the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill — where four viral clusters have emerged one week after in-person classes started — and Oklahoma State University, where a single sorority house has 23 confirmed cases.
...
At Auburn University, wide receiver Anthony Schwartz tweeted Saturday that he had “seen crowds of people and none of them are wearing masks.” Chris Owens, a center at the University of Alabama, tweeted a photo on Sunday afternoon of a crowd of students with barely any face coverings in sight, asking: “How about we social distance and have more than a literal handful of people wear a mask? Is that too much to ask Tuscaloosa?”

https://twitter.com/chriscmooney/status/1295332142822686720
Yeah

https://twitter.com/zwirnm/status/1295332800669810689

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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 17, 2020, 09:23:25 AM
UAB-Med is testing every college student in Alabama.



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Post by: Fedor on August 17, 2020, 09:48:18 AM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
Re: Sturgis
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead?  This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties.  The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139.  Today the total active cases are 135, net -4.  I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far. 

I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well.  Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered.  There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine.  It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks. 
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Post by: bucket on August 17, 2020, 09:52:51 AM
Looks like Fedor drank all of his optimism juice this morning.
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Post by: Fedor on August 17, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
Looks like Fedor drank all of his optimism juice this morning.
I am in a bubble, completely unaffected by the 'rona w/ no one I know getting it, so it comes pretty easy I guess.
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Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2020, 10:23:58 AM
https://twitter.com/TarheelSoup/status/1295337202495426560
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Post by: chum1 on August 17, 2020, 10:33:11 AM
 :surprised:
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 17, 2020, 11:34:02 AM
https://twitter.com/TarheelSoup/status/1295337202495426560
:ROFL:
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 17, 2020, 11:45:26 AM
city of Manhattan just approved 25% capacity for ark st. game
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Post by: 'taterblast on August 17, 2020, 12:07:44 PM
*Riley County
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Post by: cfbandyman on August 17, 2020, 12:44:24 PM
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2020/8/17/k-state-approved-for-reduced-capacity-during-2020-football-season.aspx

Quick hits:

25% capacity
Must wear facemask all times
No reentry
No tailgating
Booze sold to everyone in the stadium
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Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2020, 12:46:31 PM
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch
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Post by: cfbandyman on August 17, 2020, 12:49:28 PM
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch

very carrot and stick approach
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Post by: Phil Titola on August 17, 2020, 12:51:42 PM
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch

Mask all the time unless drinking = boozed up 25% full stadium
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 17, 2020, 01:00:22 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
Re: Sturgis
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead?  This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties.  The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139.  Today the total active cases are 135, net -4.  I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far. 

I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well.  Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered.  There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine.  It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.

How many locals, other than those working in bars and restaurants, we're hanging out with the hordes of bikers? I saw a story that said the locals seemed to be split on whether they should have had the rally. If they had low numbers before and committed to some level of distancing, the issue wouldn't be with the locals but with the throngs of people going there then taking it back to wherever they came from and points in between.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 17, 2020, 01:07:36 PM
Tuscaloosa Bar owners are pissed about the pics showing up because they (correctly) say they're not responsible for enforcing mask orders 50 yards  away on a public sidewalk.   They say that they only allowed people with masks and limited occupancy inside their establishments.   Bars do have to cutoff the booze early as well.



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Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 17, 2020, 01:14:22 PM
***Insert KU selling tickets as usual to get 25% attendance joke***
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Post by: Skipper44 on August 17, 2020, 01:18:13 PM
I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally.  Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 17, 2020, 01:58:03 PM
I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally.  Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.

The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl.  Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat.  My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus.  Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus.  And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals.  The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: waks on August 17, 2020, 02:02:33 PM
I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally.  Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.

The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl.  Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat.  My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus.  Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus.  And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals.  The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
Um...what? I'm admittedly stereotyping here but I would bet that a good portion of the attendees at Sturgis are tobacco users and/or abuse alcohol.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 17, 2020, 02:52:14 PM
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....

There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.

Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 17, 2020, 02:57:05 PM
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....

There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.

Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.

Why aren't they being quarantined in Manhattan? I thought the university was using the Kramer complex for that?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 17, 2020, 02:58:18 PM
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....

There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.

Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.

Why aren't they being quarantined in Manhattan? I thought the university was using the Kramer complex for that?

No idea, maybe Kramer is just for students living in the dorms?
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 17, 2020, 03:04:58 PM
All the more reason to suspend the archiac NCAA rules, send the general student body home, and have college football season with the players in the bubble.

But, they're dead set on upholding dated rules and putting even more financial burden on the schools. 

That said, when the flu bug is spreading like wild fire, and people are actually symptomatic, is there a total meltdown and are people walking around talking about what a cluster eff everything is?   

BTW here's a partial list of complications from the Flu:

Heart attack or stroke

Serious secondary bacterial infections and pneumonia

Death

Potential long term health impact of pneumonia:

Death






Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 17, 2020, 03:12:15 PM
https://twitter.com/speegs3340/status/1295431886752415745?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 17, 2020, 03:16:07 PM
And one week into the semester UNC is already going to all online classes.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 17, 2020, 03:17:55 PM
And one week into the semester UNC is already going to all online classes.

Because they know Roy Cooper is chomping on the bit to shut the whole state down again.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 17, 2020, 03:20:56 PM
What's the opposite of a coronabro?
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Post by: cfbandyman on August 17, 2020, 03:26:22 PM
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....

There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.

Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.

Ugh, I'm on the alumni board for mine, I have not been looking forward to seeing an email like that (but I'm sure it'll happen eventually)
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Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2020, 03:27:04 PM
What's the opposite of a coronabro?

does clay travis have nicknames for his fans? outkickers or something?
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Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2020, 03:28:07 PM
also sending positive cases home seems like the worst possible outcome short of continuing to go to school and bars
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Post by: sys on August 17, 2020, 03:29:08 PM
What's the opposite of a coronabro?

covid truther.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 17, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....

There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.

Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
Up to 9 cases now!

According to my parents neighbor his daughters sorority has 20+ cases.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 17, 2020, 05:08:09 PM
One of my friends is the chapter advisor for our FRAT up at Kstate and I asked him how it was going.....

There have been students in the house for less than a week and they currently have 5 people that have tested positive so far, all sent home until they are negative. Any who had 30 minutes or more of maskless interaction with the people who tested positive are supposed to quarantine at the house for a week or something like that.

Sounds like a giant clusterfuck.
Up to 9 cases now!

According to my parents neighbor his daughters sorority has 20+ cases.





dang we might get everyone infected super quick and go back to regular next semester
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: nicname on August 17, 2020, 11:24:09 PM
banning tailgating but increasing booze in the stadium is an interesting touch

Mask all the time unless drinking = boozed up 25% full stadium

It will be like 80’s Cat football + in stadium booze.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: nicname on August 17, 2020, 11:28:05 PM
 40 new cases at Bethel in (North) Newton, KS already. Bethel has prob less students than Manhattan High.

Edit: lol, 500 enrollment at Bethel.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on August 18, 2020, 06:32:41 AM
I have an ex that went to Bethel and yes, the enrollment there is very lol. But even the Mennonite Threshers have a hard time not humping each other.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 18, 2020, 11:04:08 AM
https://twitter.com/patsmithradio/status/1295476086705397760?s=21
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Post by: MadCat on August 18, 2020, 11:18:56 AM
I think there are several Bethel students living in my apartment building.   :ohno:
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 18, 2020, 11:59:08 AM
I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally.  Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.

The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl.  Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat.  My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus.  Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus.  And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals.  The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
Um...what? I'm admittedly stereotyping here but I would bet that a good portion of the attendees at Sturgis are tobacco users and/or abuse alcohol.

and obese and horrible nutrition
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 18, 2020, 02:48:27 PM
I don't think Sturgis is good approximation for a MHK football weekend - I haven't been to Sturgis on 20 years but then and I imagine even more so now that most residents leave town during the rally unless they have business that serve the rally.  Locals would rent out homes and the Main Street shops would all clear out to become bars or biker related shops.

The one thing you're missing is the bikers are generally very healthy ppl.  Ppl that are sick do not ride thousands of miles in the wind and heat.  My guess is there are very few if any that have the virus.  Also, being outdoors in the sun increase vitamin D which increases resistance to the virus.  And if there are those that are asystematic the virus would be all over the surfaces that would spread to the locals.  The facts that there are less cases now then when it began should spell things out to the uninformed.
Um...what? I'm admittedly stereotyping here but I would bet that a good portion of the attendees at Sturgis are tobacco users and/or abuse alcohol.

and obese and horrible nutrition

Next time you see some, walk up to them and tell them what your opinion of them is.   I'm sure you're not afraid of them.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DQ12 on August 18, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
i don't think people are really scared of "bikers" anymore.
Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 18, 2020, 03:24:31 PM
Yeah, I’d fight a retired dentist right now


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Post by: Fedor on August 18, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
The front desk lobby staff were having a conversation with someone about how "that neighborhood provides parking for the surgeons, the lawyers had to park somewhere else".  And yes, from what I saw a handful of goEMAWers would wreck shop on about any group of cyclists you want to pick.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 18, 2020, 05:26:09 PM
Not talking about bicycles.  :ROFL:
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Post by: Fedor on August 18, 2020, 05:29:09 PM
Not talking about bicycles.  :ROFL:
Bikers!!! :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :bang:

mea culpa  :lol: :thumbsup:
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Post by: steve dave on August 18, 2020, 06:27:00 PM
MI St and ND just called in person classes


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Post by: steve dave on August 18, 2020, 06:28:34 PM
This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks


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Post by: Pete on August 18, 2020, 06:38:54 PM
This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks


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Shawnee Mission school district just switched too remote.  They will re-evaluate it every week or so tho, as the county health department gives their red/yellow/green rating.
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Post by: steve dave on August 18, 2020, 06:42:29 PM
Imagine the cheating on exams for athletes in the Covid era. LHC Bill Snyder and Tom Osborne would have been playing in the NC every season until they died.


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Post by: wetwillie on August 18, 2020, 06:49:50 PM
I’m still holding on
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Post by: Katpappy on August 18, 2020, 07:53:02 PM
I am willing to bet we don't have fans after the first game.
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Post by: chum1 on August 18, 2020, 07:58:47 PM
Unless we win a lot, I'll be distancing myself from the games on my TV.
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Post by: Katpappy on August 18, 2020, 08:14:19 PM
I didn't brother to buy season because I plan on watching the games on TV.
 :thumbs:
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 19, 2020, 12:35:40 AM
This will be 100% of schools within 2 weeks


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Flood Aggie have tested their entire student body and staff and they tested at a very respectful 2.2%, way lower than the surrounding communities. The problem is now that they are only going to test symptomatic students and staff. These people aren't in a bubble and the surrounding counties are testing at higher positive percentages.
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Post by: Pete on August 19, 2020, 07:54:49 AM



https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2020/08/how-a-cardiologist-may-have-saved-the-college-football-season.html

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The Minnesota-based cardiologist leads the Windland Smith Rice Sudden Death Genomics Lab which studies, among other things, sudden death in young athletes. He explained to the Big 12?s leaders that a new myocarditis study in the Journal of American Medical Association that sparked panic across college sports didn’t have the “bandwidth” to be transferable in a useful way. The study, conducted in Germany and composed of middle-aged adults, found that 78 percent of the 100 participants had some cardiac abnormality. Ackerman said it’d be a “scientific foul” to infer that those findings are relevant for 18 to 24-year old athletes.

"You cannot make that leap," Ackerman exclaimed.




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Ackerman pushed for the Big 12 to consider additional heart-related protocols to mitigate any possible risks, with the conference adopting plans to test athletes who had the coronavirus with an EKG, cardiac MRI, echocardiogram and troponin blood test. He stressed that any player who contracts COVID-19 needs to have a “squeaky clean cardiac evaluation” before getting the go-ahead to return to play. He cautioned them to consider possible mental health ramifications of canceling a season, referencing past experiences with athletes who suffered after being medically disqualified for heart issues.

Citing his own experience in dealing with non-zero risk situations with patients every day, he provided a path forward for college conferences hoping to play college football this fall.
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Post by: Pete on August 19, 2020, 07:56:23 AM
Obviously, it does not address the other open argument about one's role in further spreading the disease, which seems to be the most significant difference of opinions between any "sides" in this.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 19, 2020, 08:04:39 AM
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on August 19, 2020, 08:21:07 AM
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

This is a good comment, thank you pete.

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Post by: POWL on August 19, 2020, 09:14:22 AM
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

This is a good comment, thank you pete.
I am sorry to report that young people can't stay away from each other.
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Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2020, 09:19:43 AM
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.
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Post by: Trim on August 19, 2020, 09:31:34 AM
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.

Yes.  I think player health was pitched by people who knew sports had to be canceled in order to try to get support from weirdos who hate masks, distancing, etc.  That track ended up making some forget the exponentially more important reasons to not play a sport that has caravans of people smashing into each other, mingling with those in the smash city and then going to another city to do it again.

So now you have a bunch of myocarditis debates that are irrelevant.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 19, 2020, 12:08:26 PM
If they could show me that they are NOT materially increasing the spread of COVID, I'd be all-in on them playing. The problem is that the cannot do that. Not with college kids.  With the NBA, sure that works.  With the NFL, we'll see.   I'm sort of on the fence about it now with college kids.  I am 100% in favor of social distancing and mandatory masks, but this shut down for shut down sake is preposterous.  The student health argument is a dead end, and not real, IMO.  It's the ethics of being a "spreader" that concern me.

I agree 100%, IMO it's always been about the impact on the communities despite the Clay Travises of the world focusing on low risk to the players. I agree it's low risk to the players! But not their staff, professors, or communities at large.

Yes.  I think player health was pitched by people who knew sports had to be canceled in order to try to get support from weirdos who hate masks, distancing, etc.  That track ended up making some forget the exponentially more important reasons to not play a sport that has caravans of people smashing into each other, mingling with those in the smash city and then going to another city to do it again.

So now you have a bunch of myocarditis debates that are irrelevant.

Yep
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 20, 2020, 12:19:20 PM
https://twitter.com/espncfb/status/1296496728250765318
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 20, 2020, 12:51:38 PM
I love fooboo but this is absurd. Just pull the plug.
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Post by: catastrophe on August 20, 2020, 12:56:27 PM
I cannot in good conscience advocate for player safety based on potential heart inflammation when I was ok knowing they were all risking serious long term brain injuries.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 20, 2020, 01:22:01 PM
https://twitter.com/reddirtsport/status/1296468618776125441?s=21


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Post by: MakeItRain on August 20, 2020, 02:06:48 PM
https://twitter.com/espncfb/status/1296496728250765318

That's two in three weeks? Clay Travis hive won't care.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 20, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
https://twitter.com/reddirtsport/status/1296468618776125441?s=21


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That someone who makes me uncomfortable blocked me for this

https://twitter.com/mj_from_kansas/status/952232216020639745
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 20, 2020, 02:25:59 PM
OMG





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Post by: Fedor on August 21, 2020, 10:41:03 AM
Wichita GWAL says they are out for this fall.
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Post by: Trim on August 21, 2020, 01:58:33 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1296800496217477120
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 02:02:15 PM
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.   
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Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
:lol:

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1296800496217477120

Insufferable
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 02:42:09 PM
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.

No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.

I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.

Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 03:46:54 PM
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.

No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.

I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.

Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.

I know exactly how Anthony Bates died. 

How do you know those schools weren't looking for that already?

Auburn doc was on the radio 2 weeks ago, he wrote a whole paper on Myocarditis 10 years ago, he said it can be caused by a number of things and they screen everybody at Auburn who has had a bad cold or the flu.

If the demand is going to be that medical staffs have to catch all possible conditions and all possible outcomes, then we should just shut down sports now, permanently. 









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Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 04:14:50 PM
LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.

No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.

I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.

Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.

I know exactly how Anthony Bates died. 

How do you know those schools weren't looking for that already?

Auburn doc was on the radio 2 weeks ago, he wrote a whole paper on Myocarditis 10 years ago, he said it can be caused by a number of things and they screen everybody at Auburn who has had a bad cold or the flu.

If the demand is going to be that medical staffs have to catch all possible conditions and all possible outcomes, then we should just shut down sports now, permanently.

Some schools do, some schools don't. If they did cardiac testing before I don't know why they would mention finding heart problems with coronavirus protocols, that's what you claimed, not me. This would be like giving credit to coronavirus protocols for finding a lisfranc fracture.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2020, 04:36:40 PM
It's my understanding that schools are sending athletes in for heart screenings if they've had the Rona.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 21, 2020, 04:41:58 PM
Sad to see the mommies and daddies of these teenagers now doing the protesting for the little babies.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 21, 2020, 05:19:02 PM
https://twitter.com/UofAlabama/status/1296933248438808576

https://twitter.com/CecilHurt/status/1296933722621718534
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 21, 2020, 05:26:27 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 21, 2020, 11:29:22 PM
Sad to see the mommies and daddies of these teenagers now doing the protesting for the little babies.

But but but but they want to play! The thing is this probably not different from how they've dealt with their kids up to this point, giving them whatever the eff they want. These people are different from the "do it because the kids want to play" crowd but doesn't give two fucks about any other thing student athletes have requested about anything else at all. The amount of people who crap all over these athletes two months ago who now want to let them do what they want is infuriating.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 22, 2020, 02:03:30 AM
Sorry, it was a dax/portland joke I didn't really get the wording down right on.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 22, 2020, 09:28:38 AM
He knows exactly how Anthony Bates died, you guys.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2020, 11:07:00 AM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1297202281964855300


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: meow meow on August 22, 2020, 12:06:05 PM
i'm fine with that, spring and fall football in the same calendar year makes zero sense
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 22, 2020, 01:00:24 PM
How much non TV revenue does KSU athletics stand to lose if no football gets played?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 22, 2020, 02:09:33 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1297202281964855300


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I would assume the nearly the entire K-State athletic department would be furloughed
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 22, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Yep. NU just furloughed a bunch.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 22, 2020, 02:32:30 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1296952187797544960

https://twitter.com/andywittry/status/1296955720995409920

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 22, 2020, 03:52:33 PM
How much non TV revenue does KSU athletics stand to lose if no football gets played?

I had heard it is in the 31mil +, if we're in the CFP.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 22, 2020, 04:36:26 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1296952187797544960

https://twitter.com/andywittry/status/1296955720995409920
100% reduction?!?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 23, 2020, 01:10:54 AM
https://twitter.com/kstatecollegian/status/1297279964442697736
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2020, 12:46:45 PM
"VYPE Kansas" is big mad

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Well, here I go. Iceberg dead ahead and I am going to steer straight into it. I generally try to avoid the dark and dangerous side of social media as it relates to political or social issues. At the end of the day, my voice is just another in a jungle of voices that may or may not agree with me. Frankly, it would be exceedingly rare for me to have an opinion, and I have many, that someone else has not already expressed on social media.
That being said, the decision that USD 259 made last night to suspend fall sports and in-school learning for the fall semester has me asking questions that I simply do not find other people asking. But wait, let me check that, in the last 12 hours I have had discussions with several people who do have the same questions I have. Therein lies my first contact with the iceberg and one of the most confusing and frustrating aspects of the 259 decision. Why does it seem that the majority opinion is the quietest voice and the minority opinion is the loudest voice and seems to have all the power? I am not a scientific pollster but I talk to a lot, and I mean a lot, of people and I simply cannot find a single voice that agrees with the decision outside of some 259 administration and some 259 educators. However, they seem to dominate the conversation and the decision-making process. Why is that?
As I continue to run down the jagged edge of the iceberg my next question is, “What the heck happened to common sense and logical thinking? The Corona virus sucks. It sucks because it can take the lives of those we love, it sucks because it can make us sick, it sucks because it has disrupted our way of life and livelihood and it sucks because we don’t really know anything about it or how to contain it. It also sucks because everyone interprets the numbers in a different way and presents those numbers in the way that best aligns with their own bias. I am no epidemiologist, but I can look at real numbers and make common sense and logical conclusions based on what those numbers tell me. What the virus numbers unquestionably tell me is that the virus is extremely dangerous for the elderly and people with pre-existing health conditions. The numbers also tell me that people who are younger and in reasonably good health are not likely to be hospitalized, or God forbid, pass away. Not that much different than a strong seasonal strain of the flu. So with that common sense and logic in mind, does it make any sense for grownups to make decisions that will negatively affect our children’s entire lifetime based on not using common sense and logic but rather personal or group narrative and bias on how the numbers are interpreted? It seems to me decisions are being made under the grandiose proposition that by shutting down we are saving lives or keeping kids and grownups safe. Safe from what? The numbers simply do not support that proposition. The list of, “You are more likely to die from X than the Corona virus” is an awfully long one and it certainly seems that not much is being done to address those other factors.
Not so long ago, common sense and logic among grownups also meant that we take care of our children. That we make decisions based on what is best for them not us. Given the realities, common sense and logic of the Corona virus numbers, are we grownups really making the best decision for our kids or for us? Last night on a local news channel a teacher said something along the lines of, “I am no spring chicken. I am older and close to retirement and teachers like myself need to be kept safe.” I agree. But, does keeping you safe mean we have to ruin the lives of our younger population by making them anti-social, by making them manage a terribly inefficient learning environment, by taking away the activities that will help define who they are as adults and by taking away all the opportunities that were afforded us grownups as children? If I had an opportunity to talk to that teacher, my response to her would be, “I totally understand your fear and concern about the potential effects of the Corona virus on your personal situation. However, is it reasonable to make an entire section of the population change their behavior to accommodate your fears? Wouldn’t it be more prudent for you take personal responsibility and make decisions about your health based on those fears? Maybe you don’t teach during the virus flight? Maybe you go above and beyond to take care of yourself? What I am ultimately trying to say here is that if everyone would manage the Corona virus as a personal health initiative instead of relying on public health initiatives, we would all be better off. Yes, it sucks to be elderly and have pre-existing health issues that make the Corona virus much more dangerous for you than the average high school student but that is a problem you need to manage and not take away an extremely important, life defining time of a high school kid. In defense of teachers and harking back to my previous comment on the power of the minority voice, most teachers are overwhelmingly in favor of going back to class and coaches are overwhelmingly in favor of getting back on the field. We have lost sight of the concept of the greater good.
Now that I have cleared the iceberg and the boat is sinking, I will add a couple more comments before I go down with my ship. First, regarding my opinion on an underlying issue that is likely driving the decisions around the management of the virus, one word, “Litigation”. I believe the fear of the legal action that administrators may have to deal with associated with “staying open” is weighing heavily on final decisions. Look no future than the process by which 259 came to last night’s decision. “Local coaches and players-let’s play and go to school on time. KSHSAA-let’s play and here is a good plan of action. Governor-let’s play but start late. Board of Regents-let’s have the districts decide. USD 259-let’s play. USD 259-let’s not play.” Does that process not have legal influence written all over it?
Second word, Media. Folks, there is simply no unbiased media source on the planet anymore. They all have agendas, they all have alliances, they all have their own narrative and they are all corporately owned and those corporations have their own agendas-that is why they own media! They are all obsessed with negative content because it breeds fear and they hope fear breeds an audience. I have not seen one mainstream media outlet accurately define the Corona virus numbers. Not one.
So, I am now underwater. I suppose I should try to make my last comment a real dozy!  Here we go! Our country is known as land of the free and home of the chiefs. We may want to look in the mirror because our management of Covid has been neither.
Mike Cooper
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 23, 2020, 01:29:00 PM
I was reading on twitter about Wichita cancelling the sports season, funny this is the first I'm seeing that they also cancelled in person classes.

I am in the let's try to play camp, but I'm really annoyed by my camp mates, almost all of them are insincere about why they want athletes to play.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2020, 12:20:02 PM
Over the long haul, the impact of not playing will be far greater than the impact of playing with various restrictions in place.

IMO, the expansion/dawn of the academy system across all sports is here, and the death of college athletics as we know it has begun.

The academy system(s) will mean far fewer opportunities in the area of athletic endeavors.

Ultimately, this will trickle down even farther into high school sports.   Where some sports are considered an afterthought relative to travel teams/club outside of school programs that exist now.   In high school they'll be a trickle up throughout the whole of the sports hierarchy.   This could breed an environment that we already have with certain country club sports at the youth level.   Where only the moneyed thrive. 

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 24, 2020, 01:01:16 PM
Over the long haul, the impact of not playing will be far greater than the impact of playing with various restrictions in place.

IMO, the expansion/dawn of the academy system across all sports is here, and the death of college athletics as we know it has begun.

The academy system(s) will mean far fewer opportunities in the area of athletic endeavors.

Ultimately, this will trickle down even farther into high school sports.   Where some sports are considered an afterthought relative to travel teams/club outside of school programs that exist now.   In high school they'll be a trickle up throughout the whole of the sports hierarchy.   This could breed an environment that we already have with certain country club sports at the youth level.   Where only the moneyed thrive.

I'm tempted to say that I care about as much about this as sports-kid-parents care about non-sports-kids opportunities for activities and fulfillment.  Which is to say, that I am tempted to not give a eff.

However, that wouldn't be the right thing to do, because I must acknowledge that sports does play valuable role in kids lives, and particularly for at risk kids.  I need to separate that from my own personal anger about how at-risk non-sports kids are mostly just mumped, relatively speaking.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 24, 2020, 01:18:41 PM
I'm in the camp that really doesn't care if the high school athletes have to sit out a season. It might even be a good thing overall. Sports are overemphasized in the US.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 24, 2020, 04:00:12 PM
Of all the things we can do for kids with barriers, providing organized sports opportunities for them, is way way way down that list. Their parents aren't the ones picketing offices and posting addresses of school boards. These parents are trying to figure out how to manage distance learning while working their low paying job, if they haven't lost it already and got evicted.

We all love sports, obviously, but RATM is 100% correct that as a society we place way too much value on sports, especially if we're looking for them to solve societies ills.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 24, 2020, 06:18:08 PM
"VYPE Kansas" is big mad

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Well, here I go. Iceberg dead ahead and I am going to steer straight into it. I generally try to avoid the dark and dangerous side of social media as it relates to political or social issues. At the end of the day, my voice is just another in a jungle of voices that may or may not agree with me. Frankly, it would be exceedingly rare for me to have an opinion, and I have many, that someone else has not already expressed on social media.
That being said, the decision that USD 259 made last night to suspend fall sports and in-school learning for the fall semester has me asking questions that I simply do not find other people asking. But wait, let me check that, in the last 12 hours I have had discussions with several people who do have the same questions I have. Therein lies my first contact with the iceberg and one of the most confusing and frustrating aspects of the 259 decision. Why does it seem that the majority opinion is the quietest voice and the minority opinion is the loudest voice and seems to have all the power? I am not a scientific pollster but I talk to a lot, and I mean a lot, of people and I simply cannot find a single voice that agrees with the decision outside of some 259 administration and some 259 educators. However, they seem to dominate the conversation and the decision-making process. Why is that?
As I continue to run down the jagged edge of the iceberg my next question is, “What the heck happened to common sense and logical thinking? The Corona virus sucks. It sucks because it can take the lives of those we love, it sucks because it can make us sick, it sucks because it has disrupted our way of life and livelihood and it sucks because we don’t really know anything about it or how to contain it. It also sucks because everyone interprets the numbers in a different way and presents those numbers in the way that best aligns with their own bias. I am no epidemiologist, but I can look at real numbers and make common sense and logical conclusions based on what those numbers tell me. What the virus numbers unquestionably tell me is that the virus is extremely dangerous for the elderly and people with pre-existing health conditions. The numbers also tell me that people who are younger and in reasonably good health are not likely to be hospitalized, or God forbid, pass away. Not that much different than a strong seasonal strain of the flu. So with that common sense and logic in mind, does it make any sense for grownups to make decisions that will negatively affect our children’s entire lifetime based on not using common sense and logic but rather personal or group narrative and bias on how the numbers are interpreted? It seems to me decisions are being made under the grandiose proposition that by shutting down we are saving lives or keeping kids and grownups safe. Safe from what? The numbers simply do not support that proposition. The list of, “You are more likely to die from X than the Corona virus” is an awfully long one and it certainly seems that not much is being done to address those other factors.
Not so long ago, common sense and logic among grownups also meant that we take care of our children. That we make decisions based on what is best for them not us. Given the realities, common sense and logic of the Corona virus numbers, are we grownups really making the best decision for our kids or for us? Last night on a local news channel a teacher said something along the lines of, “I am no spring chicken. I am older and close to retirement and teachers like myself need to be kept safe.” I agree. But, does keeping you safe mean we have to ruin the lives of our younger population by making them anti-social, by making them manage a terribly inefficient learning environment, by taking away the activities that will help define who they are as adults and by taking away all the opportunities that were afforded us grownups as children? If I had an opportunity to talk to that teacher, my response to her would be, “I totally understand your fear and concern about the potential effects of the Corona virus on your personal situation. However, is it reasonable to make an entire section of the population change their behavior to accommodate your fears? Wouldn’t it be more prudent for you take personal responsibility and make decisions about your health based on those fears? Maybe you don’t teach during the virus flight? Maybe you go above and beyond to take care of yourself? What I am ultimately trying to say here is that if everyone would manage the Corona virus as a personal health initiative instead of relying on public health initiatives, we would all be better off. Yes, it sucks to be elderly and have pre-existing health issues that make the Corona virus much more dangerous for you than the average high school student but that is a problem you need to manage and not take away an extremely important, life defining time of a high school kid. In defense of teachers and harking back to my previous comment on the power of the minority voice, most teachers are overwhelmingly in favor of going back to class and coaches are overwhelmingly in favor of getting back on the field. We have lost sight of the concept of the greater good.
Now that I have cleared the iceberg and the boat is sinking, I will add a couple more comments before I go down with my ship. First, regarding my opinion on an underlying issue that is likely driving the decisions around the management of the virus, one word, “Litigation”. I believe the fear of the legal action that administrators may have to deal with associated with “staying open” is weighing heavily on final decisions. Look no future than the process by which 259 came to last night’s decision. “Local coaches and players-let’s play and go to school on time. KSHSAA-let’s play and here is a good plan of action. Governor-let’s play but start late. Board of Regents-let’s have the districts decide. USD 259-let’s play. USD 259-let’s not play.” Does that process not have legal influence written all over it?
Second word, Media. Folks, there is simply no unbiased media source on the planet anymore. They all have agendas, they all have alliances, they all have their own narrative and they are all corporately owned and those corporations have their own agendas-that is why they own media! They are all obsessed with negative content because it breeds fear and they hope fear breeds an audience. I have not seen one mainstream media outlet accurately define the Corona virus numbers. Not one.
So, I am now underwater. I suppose I should try to make my last comment a real dozy!  Here we go! Our country is known as land of the free and home of the chiefs. We may want to look in the mirror because our management of Covid has been neither.
Mike Cooper


No crap?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 24, 2020, 06:21:14 PM
Of all the things we can do for kids with barriers, providing organized sports opportunities for them, is way way way down that list. Their parents aren't the ones picketing offices and posting addresses of school boards. These parents are trying to figure out how to manage distance learning while working their low paying job, if they haven't lost it already and got evicted.

We all love sports, obviously, but RATM is 100% correct that as a society we place way too much value on sports, especially if we're looking for them to solve societies ills.

If the youths don’t have sports they will turn to drugs and violence
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2020, 06:53:46 PM
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2020, 07:15:30 PM
If anything, kid camps are way more worrisome than organized sports.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 24, 2020, 07:57:09 PM
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.


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Play what card? The point you're making isn't a rebuttal to anything I said.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2020, 08:16:39 PM
He's drunk and looking for a fight.

It's pathetic.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: CHONGS on August 24, 2020, 08:49:26 PM
No one here caused any of that.

Excuse after excuse with you for your behavior.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2020, 08:57:24 PM
MIR started this, dipshit:

The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.

Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2020, 09:00:55 PM
No one here caused any of that.

Excuse after excuse with you for your behavior.
I honestly know you hate me and that’s cool, but I’m nowhere near the monster you want me to be, this is on you. You think I’m Dax level.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 24, 2020, 09:01:31 PM
MIR started this, dipshit:

The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.

Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.


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WTF wacky

Time to think about laying off the sauce permanently
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 24, 2020, 09:36:12 PM
Mich, other than being mid 40’s here, what did I do wrong?


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 24, 2020, 09:55:23 PM
Mich, other than being mid 40’s here, what did I do wrong?


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You're reaching for ways to be a victim and it tends to happen in an especially negative way when you're drinking. You also seem to be confuzzled by how the message board works
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 25, 2020, 06:11:41 AM
MIR started this, dipshit:

The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.

Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.


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In another thread about another topic, nearly a week ago. Take some responsibility and get some thicker skin, it's a sports message board, it isn't a Martha Stewart Living forum.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 8manpick on August 25, 2020, 07:14:13 AM
MIR started this, dipshit:

The Seminole tribe hasn't endorsed the use of the chop but they haven't condemned it either. Even if they did endorse the use of the chop they still shouldn't do it, as it's a cartoonish depiction. There were native americans who didn't have a problem with the Washington Redskins but that didn't make the name less problematic.

Also anyone who considers these proposed changes as cancelling are brain damaged doofuses. I'm so glad that the phrases cancelling and cancel culture are being so watered down. An entity choosing to change their bands, slogans, logos, traditions isn't cancelling, they have a choice.


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What in the world did MIR “start” there? Last Friday, no less.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Fedor on August 25, 2020, 08:18:27 AM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
Re: Sturgis
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead?  This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties.  The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139.  Today the total active cases are 135, net -4.  I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far. 

I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well.  Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered.  There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine.  It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
Sturgis area as of 8-24 had 217 active cases and Riley County had 138, pretty significant increases in terms of percentage but maybe not in terms of population.   :dunno:     
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 25, 2020, 08:31:28 AM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
Re: Sturgis
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead?  This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties.  The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139.  Today the total active cases are 135, net -4.  I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far. 

I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well.  Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered.  There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine.  It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
Sturgis area as of 8-24 had 217 active cases and Riley County had 138, pretty significant increases in terms of percentage but maybe not in terms of population.   :dunno:     

If I'm not mistaken the population of Sturgis is ~7000 (its county is 28k) and the population of Riley county is 71k, so it is pretty significant in terms of percentage but even more significant in terms of population. (assuming your numbers are accurate).
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 25, 2020, 09:22:35 AM
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.


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Sports are great for kids. Every other after school activity is also great for kids. These activities are either safe or unsafe, and I think you would be very hard pressed to find anything less safe than football. If any other activity is cancelled, then football should also be cancelled. It should be all or none.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 25, 2020, 04:21:03 PM
I'm in the camp that really doesn't care if the high school athletes have to sit out a season. It might even be a good thing overall. Sports are overemphasized in the US.

Again, it will soon only be over emphasized by those that can afford to over emphasize.   IMO, college athletics as we knew it is over.

The number of opportunities to attend college on an athletic scholarship as we move forward are going to plummet.    A move by the P5 to break away will prompt substantial litigation and legislative review.

All Post K-12 sports (besides recreational) within the next 10 years are highly likely to be professional sports, IMO.

As I said, I also suspect that same movement will overtake high school sports.   There's already multiple high school sports where the performance on the school team is nearly inconsequential.   That will soon trickle even further into basketball, and then eventually football.



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 25, 2020, 11:10:27 PM
Sports kept me out of trouble and active and helped me socialize. I think downplaying it is low hanging fruit and showing your age. I knew a crap ton of bad kids doing bad crap without a healthy distraction like sports. That’s fine if you want to play this card, but sports are probably the healthiest think for kids.


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Sports are great for kids. Every other after school activity is also great for kids. These activities are either safe or unsafe, and I think you would be very hard pressed to find anything less safe than football. If any other activity is cancelled, then football should also be cancelled. It should be all or none.

The loudest "let them play" people seem to be real quiet about these conferences that are playing football but have cancelled soccer and volleyball. I don't really expect people to care about volleyball and soccer but it just shows the insincerity about a lot of these arguments.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 10:57:48 AM
You’re correct. One sport is the livelihood of the University, it’s employees, the community that surrounds it, etc. The other sports just exist. Thanks for coming to my TED talk about how this works.

You know this though.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 26, 2020, 10:58:23 AM
It's absolutely stupid for any sport in any conference to be cancelled. 

Particularly if the general student body is on campus.   But even if the general student body isn't on campus, the cancellations are still extremely stupid.





Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 11:01:55 AM
Also, yes, let them all play. This overreaction to the pandemic is going to screw up a lot of kids futures. Who knows what HS kids missed out on scholarship opps in the Spring by not getting to play.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on August 26, 2020, 11:02:33 AM
Given the financial impacts of COVID, though, there is a pretty decent argument to cancel the other sports as a cost cutting measure regardless of safety.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: GregKSU1027 on August 26, 2020, 11:31:39 AM
Thought this was a pretty cool press release from ESPN.

https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2020/08/espn-kicks-off-college-football-slate-with-new-anthem-graphics-for-2020-21-campaign/
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2020, 10:35:09 PM
You’re correct. One sport is the livelihood of the University, it’s employees, the community that surrounds it, etc. The other sports just exist. Thanks for coming to my TED talk about how this works.

You know this though.


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Yeah, I do know that. The point is, football isn't any safer than soccer. Not allowing soccer while allowing football completely eliminates almost every argument that people aren't honest about playing have.
Let them play because they need/want it is gone
Let them play because the risk isn't substantial is gone

What you're left with is
Let them play because we need the money.
rough ridin' PAY THEM THEN!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 26, 2020, 11:31:31 PM
So maybe I missed it, but will the Pac 12 and Big Ten, and a few other conferences/teams forgoing at least the fall, shouldn't that mean that pretty much every game is on FS1, ESPN/ESPN2, ABC, etc? I can't imagine there being too many games to not show any of them on any of the major networks.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 26, 2020, 11:45:21 PM
You’re correct. One sport is the livelihood of the University, it’s employees, the community that surrounds it, etc. The other sports just exist. Thanks for coming to my TED talk about how this works.

You know this though.


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Yeah, I do know that. The point is, football isn't any safer than soccer. Not allowing soccer while allowing football completely eliminates almost every argument that people aren't honest about playing have.
Let them play because they need/want it is gone
Let them play because the risk isn't substantial is gone

What you're left with is
Let them play because we need the money.
rough ridin' PAY THEM THEN!
This is where it’s muddied up. We’ve came a long ways with these athletes since back in the day. D1 football/basketball schools now give a free ride, food, stipend, living, books, and now likeliness, etc. How do you value a special teamer for K-State and what they get paid after this front?! That looks like a 500K contract to me to go to school and be scene on TV. Opt out if you want and keep your status:


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 27, 2020, 12:52:19 AM
So maybe I missed it, but will the Pac 12 and Big Ten, and a few other conferences/teams forgoing at least the fall, shouldn't that mean that pretty much every game is on FS1, ESPN/ESPN2, ABC, etc? I can't imagine there being too many games to not show any of them on any of the major networks.

Yeah, they're redoing the television schedule right now. Week 0, yep still doing it, and week 1 are  :ROFL:
https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1298658468111491073
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: cfbandyman on August 27, 2020, 07:30:32 AM
yeah that looks about right :blank:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 27, 2020, 08:30:23 AM
I'll take it though.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 27, 2020, 09:24:58 AM
What a weirdo
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on August 27, 2020, 11:32:27 AM
Testing players 3 times a week!

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-conference-usa-join-sec-in-conducting-three-covid-19-tests-per-week-during-2020-season/
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 27, 2020, 12:27:09 PM
lol


https://twitter.com/parentsnebraska/status/1299023902195232769
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2020, 12:44:13 PM
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1299039880513810433


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 27, 2020, 03:18:46 PM
Dumb
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 27, 2020, 03:23:56 PM
“because COVID pandemic”

Sucks that this thing snuck up on them right as the season is about to start.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 27, 2020, 03:40:16 PM
Apparently ECU has 30 players in quarantine, but a number of those are just precautionary.   

Most will be out before actual game prep begins in earnest.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 27, 2020, 06:48:37 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/eight-nebraska-football-players-file-lawsuit-against-the-big-ten-seeking-to-reverse-canceled-season/

Here's another link with the players and reason for the Nub/Big10 lawsuit. 
I was going to put this in the Nebraska thread, but seen TBT posted a tweet on it.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 27, 2020, 07:08:03 PM
“because COVID pandemic”

Sucks that this thing snuck up on them right as the season is about to start.

 :lol:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 27, 2020, 09:01:01 PM
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on August 27, 2020, 09:05:51 PM
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.

 :pray:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2020, 09:14:12 PM
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.

shocking, how could this happen?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 27, 2020, 09:25:49 PM
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.

shocking, how could this happen?

because COVID pandemic.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 28, 2020, 10:58:42 AM
Lol


https://twitter.com/brucefeldmancfb/status/1299374324952920065?s=21


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on August 28, 2020, 12:38:10 PM
Rumblings the latest round of testing at our own KSU cats university resulted in a large number of positives.

shocking, how could this happen?

because COVID pandemic.

https://twitter.com/RyanABlack/status/1299395718805942273
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 28, 2020, 02:26:22 PM
Great to see the protocols working as intended.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kim carnes on August 28, 2020, 02:31:18 PM
Lmao dax.  We haven’t even started the season and the football team has already had two outbreaks, that is pathetic.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: NDSU Lollypopkid on August 28, 2020, 09:26:29 PM
Lmao dax.  We haven’t even started the season and the football team has already had two outbreaks, that is pathetic.
Ya and? You’re a front runner for the college football playoffs when you don’t need to sideline any important players throughout the season
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: lakesbison on August 28, 2020, 09:26:50 PM
Not for you guys, maybe next year if you're lucky.   :ROFL:

oh NDSU is playing Oct 3.  Need to get our 2 1ST Round NFL picks some reps in front of scouts and probably ESPN
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on August 29, 2020, 09:35:04 AM
you guys i'm seriously jealous asf of these north dakota fans. its been 6 years since that (regular season) game and they are still rock hard about it. amazing.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 29, 2020, 09:40:02 AM
We made it!  Tonight we feast on CFB!
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 29, 2020, 10:23:58 AM
det's?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 29, 2020, 11:31:15 AM
It's week 0 pappy, Central Arkansas plays someone on ESPN at 8 tonight.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: lakesbison on August 29, 2020, 12:17:28 PM
you guys i'm seriously jealous asf of these north dakota fans. its been 6 years since that (regular season) game and they are still rock hard about it. amazing.

7 years ago..  and no big deal.  NDSU beat #13 Iowa 4 years later so yaaawwwnn.

Iowa only stole 1 of our coaches, KSU stole 6
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on August 29, 2020, 12:29:19 PM
It's week 0 pappy, Central Arkansas plays someone on ESPN at 8 tonight.
NOTWITHSTANDING—I intend to submit a formal application to the mods to change the title of this thread after kickoff tonight.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 29, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
It's week 0 pappy, Central Arkansas plays someone on ESPN at 8 tonight.
NOTWITHSTANDING—I intend to submit a formal application to the mods to change the title of this thread after kickoff tonight.
Yeah, someone needs to give @stevedave a good noogie.


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 29, 2020, 01:52:27 PM
you guys i'm seriously jealous asf of these north dakota fans. its been 6 years since that (regular season) game and they are still rock hard about it. amazing.

7 years ago..  and no big deal.  NDSU beat #13 Iowa 4 years later so yaaawwwnn.

Iowa only stole 1 of our coaches, KSU stole 6

They were tired of hanging with the ice fishing poors.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: lakesbison on August 29, 2020, 09:56:23 PM
UCA v Austin Peay espn 2

not pretty. but its D1 college football with fans in stands
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on August 29, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
MODS
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Katpappy on August 30, 2020, 11:39:42 AM
MIR, TY.   :cheers:
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2020, 08:24:38 PM
https://twitter.com/joshvitale/status/1300238854591582209


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2020, 08:35:54 PM
https://twitter.com/evan_b/status/1300236181855178762


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on August 30, 2020, 08:56:57 PM
Natty is within reach if we can just get to herd immunity
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2020, 09:23:27 PM
It would appear that is the Alabama schools plan


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 30, 2020, 09:27:54 PM
Being in the first world you would have thought they would have LESS cases, not more.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2020, 11:39:39 AM
https://kcci.com/article/isu-to-allow-25k-fans-inside-stadium-at-football-opener
Flood Aggie announces they are allowing 25,000! The coronavirus numbers in Iowa and Story County are crazy, the governor has even shut down bars. Jamie Pollard and #cyclONEnation already has the "leading the Big 12" in attendance press releases warmed up.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Kat Kid on August 31, 2020, 11:44:31 AM
https://kcci.com/article/isu-to-allow-25k-fans-inside-stadium-at-football-opener
Flood Aggie announces they are allowing 25,000! The coronavirus numbers in Iowa and Story County are crazy, the governor has even shut down bars. Jamie Pollard and #cyclONEnation already has the "leading the Big 12" in attendance press releases warmed up.

only thing that could ever possibly get jamie pollard fired and he's going for it.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2020, 01:21:44 PM
He won't get fired for this, 25 students could drop dead and he'll be fine. It's amazing the laissez faire attitude the elected officials in this state have taken with this entire pandemic. The numbers here are embarrassing. Ames and Iowa City are #1 & #2 in the country in cases per 1000, first world Auburn, AL is third. Iowa is #1 nationally in cases per 100,000.

I've convinced myself that he's only capping at 25,000 because the Big 12 won't let him allow more in.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 01:57:44 PM
The AL schools have a high rate right now because every AL college student was tested just prior to the start of school and there's a robust program of testing in place at the college level in conjunction with UAB-Med.

5-24 age group survival rate in AL: 99.8%

Quarantine dorms on campuses.

UAB infection rate, less than 1%



Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on August 31, 2020, 02:09:59 PM
The AL schools have a high rate right now because every AL college student was tested just prior to the start of school and there's a robust program of testing in place at the college level in conjunction with UAB-Med.

5-24 age group survival rate in AL: 99.8%

Quarantine dorms on campuses.

UAB infection rate, less than 1%





They should stop testing so much.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 31, 2020, 02:11:05 PM
The AL schools have a high rate right now because every AL college student was tested just prior to the start of school and there's a robust program of testing in place at the college level in conjunction with UAB-Med.

5-24 age group survival rate in AL: 99.8%

Quarantine dorms on campuses.

UAB infection rate, less than 1%





They should stop testing so much.

Per discussion on over-sensitivity  of tests in CoronaBro/CoronaBro Meltdown thread, that may not be a bad idea.

Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: bucket on September 01, 2020, 01:09:26 PM
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1300857298819207168

I hope I don't regret posting this in here instead of the pit.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on September 01, 2020, 01:30:07 PM
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ChiComCat on September 01, 2020, 01:54:12 PM
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.

I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on September 01, 2020, 01:59:28 PM
How many players are on KSU and is it a problem that 10 currently have coronavirus and that the county health department has classified the team as the largest area of outbreak?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on September 01, 2020, 02:02:48 PM
It could be an interesting fight within The Big 10. Michigan might just sit out regardless.

How much time do they need for practice before a season starts?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on September 01, 2020, 02:15:12 PM
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1300857298819207168

I hope I don't regret posting this in here instead of the pit.

lol I didn't realize this was part of the conversation

https://twitter.com/AWardSports/status/1300816394699898880
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: PurpleOil on September 01, 2020, 04:13:32 PM
I am only against the big 10 having football because of the LOL's it'll bring when we're playing and Nubs is not.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Fedor on September 01, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
anyone actually surprised by this?

There's no way anyone actually is, like we were all horned up 21 year olds at one point, right?

There's an awful lot of finger wagging. And really, we've seen similar behavior all over the country from all ages of people. Open up bars and this is what happens

Same damn story led the news up here about flood aggie
We saw Sturgis, too

I do think Sturgis is different than what's happening in college towns. Nobody made those boomers and Xers go up to South Dakota. They are also 2 to 3 times older than these college kids. You can't send these kids to these small towns then tell them they can only have part of the experience. You send your kid to college, I would think you are sending them with the expectation they are going to do college stuff.
Re: Sturgis
I had reason to be in the area of Sturgis last weekend (not related to the motorcycle rally) and have enjoyed you all finger wagging and #boomermeming, but how about we take a data driven approach instead?  This is imperfect of course, since vast numbers of people travel in to Sturgis and then leave a week later, but there can be some value in looking at the infection numbers of Meade and Pennington counties.  The day before Sturgis started the total active cases for those two counties was 139.  Today the total active cases are 135, net -4.  I will check back in the next week but so far it appears the communal mask shaming and assumption of a certain outbreak has been unwarranted...so far. 

I think we will find this can be applied to students returning to college as well.  Bringing together low risk, low infection rate populations from a large area and concentrating them in one location does not inherently mean there will be an outbreak and that everyone's grandma is being murdered.  There will be a few campuses that have issues of course, but most will probably be fine.  It is way too early but Riley County has 60 active cases as of today, we will see where this goes in the next few weeks.
Sturgis area as of 8-24 had 217 active cases and Riley County had 138, pretty significant increases in terms of percentage but maybe not in terms of population.   :dunno:   
LOL, it has been a bit of a crap show the past week.  SA has 606 active and Riley Co. 435.  Biker rally has more than quadrupled cases in two weeks, KSU has almost 7x. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on September 01, 2020, 06:02:20 PM
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1300857298819207168

I hope I don't regret posting this in here instead of the pit.

Liars lie
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1300878422500093956
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on September 01, 2020, 06:09:34 PM
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.

I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.

I've avoided talking about what I think about Kevin Warren being the scapegoat for this, I'll just say that if he loses his job, it will be very transparent for some of us. Whenever a conference or a league does something unpopular, we always hear about the commissioner doing the bidding for the owners or presidents/chancellors. We know, we always knew the Big Ten took a vote. Unlike what has become modus operandi in the Pac 12, no UP has called Warren out. Knowing all of this, Warren has been made to be everything from moronic to duplicitous by fans, media, and players parents and there are all kinds of rumors of him losing his job. It would be curious if not obvious. Luckily the UPs who hired him to take unpopular stances will stick with him.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ChiComCat on September 01, 2020, 06:29:49 PM
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.

I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.

I've avoided talking about what I think about Kevin Warren being the scapegoat for this, I'll just say that if he loses his job, it will be very transparent for some of us. Whenever a conference or a league does something unpopular, we always hear about the commissioner doing the bidding for the owners or presidents/chancellors. We know, we always knew the Big Ten took a vote. Unlike what has become modus operandi in the Pac 12, no UP has called Warren out. Knowing all of this, Warren has been made to be everything from moronic to duplicitous by fans, media, and players parents and there are all kinds of rumors of him losing his job. It would be curious if not obvious. Luckily the UPs who hired him to take unpopular stances will stick with him.
I agree that it would be him taking the fall for the votes of the Universities. I still think parents/fans will want a scapegoat. I think he’ll be gone at the end of the season regardless of any outcomes.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kashi1965 on September 01, 2020, 06:45:50 PM
I am only against the big 10 having football because of the LOL's it'll bring when we're playing and Nubs is not.
it would be glorious. im still worried that this is so important to nebraska that they will somehow find a way to turn this into a positive for them before its all said and done
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Pete on September 01, 2020, 07:52:04 PM
Yeah, no one go all PIT on this, but this is bad news for the Big 10 commissioner.

I don't imagine he is long for that job anyways.

I've avoided talking about what I think about Kevin Warren being the scapegoat for this, I'll just say that if he loses his job, it will be very transparent for some of us. Whenever a conference or a league does something unpopular, we always hear about the commissioner doing the bidding for the owners or presidents/chancellors. We know, we always knew the Big Ten took a vote. Unlike what has become modus operandi in the Pac 12, no UP has called Warren out. Knowing all of this, Warren has been made to be everything from moronic to duplicitous by fans, media, and players parents and there are all kinds of rumors of him losing his job. It would be curious if not obvious. Luckily the UPs who hired him to take unpopular stances will stick with him.
I agree that it would be him taking the fall for the votes of the Universities. I still think parents/fans will want a scapegoat. I think he’ll be gone at the end of the season regardless of any outcomes.

He's following a legend too.  Jim Delany is arguably the greatest conference commissioner ever.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on September 02, 2020, 09:45:41 PM
How does the NCAA survive two years of no tournament?
is this a serious question?
come on, dude


https://twitter.com/ap_top25/status/1301246736170655745?s=21
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2020, 10:22:38 PM
Well they trademarked "Battle in the Bubble" so we're probably not going to find out.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: ben ji on September 03, 2020, 12:16:50 AM
Random question - Why did the NCAA relocate from KC to Indianapolis? I remember their HQ was around 435 and Metcalf when I was a youngster but don't remember any of the local juicy gossip

Well before I posted this I went to wikipedia and learned this, anyone else have anything to add besides this?

Quote
The NCAA was dissatisfied with its Johnson County, Kansas suburban location, noting that its location on the south edges of the Kansas City suburbs was more than 40 minutes from Kansas City International Airport. They also noted that the suburban location was not drawing visitors to its new visitors' centre.[36]

In 1997, it asked for bids for a new headquarters. Various cities competed for a new headquarters with the two finalists being Kansas City and Indianapolis. Kansas City proposed to relocate the NCAA back downtown near the Crown Center complex and would locate the visitors' centre in Union Station. However Kansas City's main sports venue Kemper Arena was nearly 30 years old.[36] Indianapolis argued that it was in fact more central than Kansas City in that two-thirds of the members are east of the Mississippi River.[36] The 50,000-seat RCA Dome far eclipsed the 17,000-seat Kemper Arena. In 1999, the NCAA moved its 300-member staff to its new headquarters in the White River State Park in a four-story 140,000-square-foot (13,000 m2) facility on the west edge of downtown Indianapolis, Indiana. Adjacent to the headquarters is the 35,000-square-foot (3,300 m2) NCAA Hall of Champions.[37]
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Post by: michigancat on September 03, 2020, 12:18:28 AM
Indy had a better airport
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on September 03, 2020, 11:38:53 AM
https://twitter.com/centredaily/status/1301547235621175298
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2020, 11:42:32 AM
Whoa, thank goodness our guys aren’t in Big 10 heart attack country


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2020, 11:51:53 AM
Thankfully those athletes are getting Power 5 athlete level medical care.

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Post by: meow meow on September 03, 2020, 12:52:46 PM
hopefully not from larry nassar
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Post by: catastrophe on September 03, 2020, 01:07:17 PM
Makes you wander what percentage without a COVID diagnosis have myocarditis.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 03, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
Makes you wander what percentage without a COVID diagnosis have myocarditis.

30-35 percent?   :dunno:
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Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2020, 08:45:36 PM
Makes you wander what percentage without a COVID diagnosis have myocarditis.

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Myocarditis is usually caused by a viral infection. A severe case can weaken the heart, which can lead to heart failure, abnormal heartbeat, and sudden death. Symptoms include chest pain, abnormal heartbeat, and shortness of breath.
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 03, 2020, 09:50:20 PM
Yes, anyone who has had severe influenza can have myocarditis.  All athlete should be tested for Myocarditis, COVID or not, and not allowed to play if positive.
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Post by: Katpappy on September 03, 2020, 09:56:24 PM
Yes, anyone who has had severe influenza can have myocarditis.  All athlete should be tested for Myocarditis, COVID or not, and not allowed to play if positive.

That's what happened to my dad.  He had the flu, which caused him to lose lung and heart function.
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Post by: wetwillie on September 03, 2020, 10:08:38 PM
We play on
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2020, 02:30:54 AM
Random question - Why did the NCAA relocate from KC to Indianapolis? I remember their HQ was around 435 and Metcalf when I was a youngster but don't remember any of the local juicy gossip

Well before I posted this I went to wikipedia and learned this, anyone else have anything to add besides this?

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The NCAA was dissatisfied with its Johnson County, Kansas suburban location, noting that its location on the south edges of the Kansas City suburbs was more than 40 minutes from Kansas City International Airport. They also noted that the suburban location was not drawing visitors to its new visitors' centre.[36]

In 1997, it asked for bids for a new headquarters. Various cities competed for a new headquarters with the two finalists being Kansas City and Indianapolis. Kansas City proposed to relocate the NCAA back downtown near the Crown Center complex and would locate the visitors' centre in Union Station. However Kansas City's main sports venue Kemper Arena was nearly 30 years old.[36] Indianapolis argued that it was in fact more central than Kansas City in that two-thirds of the members are east of the Mississippi River.[36] The 50,000-seat RCA Dome far eclipsed the 17,000-seat Kemper Arena. In 1999, the NCAA moved its 300-member staff to its new headquarters in the White River State Park in a four-story 140,000-square-foot (13,000 m2) facility on the west edge of downtown Indianapolis, Indiana. Adjacent to the headquarters is the 35,000-square-foot (3,300 m2) NCAA Hall of Champions.[37]

They made the right decision. I have visited the ncaa in both locations and the spot in Indianapolis is way better than putting the visitors center in Crown Center. The location in Indy is nice and close to Lucas Oil Stadium, the AAA baseball stadium, the zoo, and IUPUI. There's a lot of places around but there's plenty of green space, it's walkable, and not congested.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on September 04, 2020, 02:58:50 AM
Yes, anyone who has had severe influenza can have myocarditis.  All athlete should be tested for Myocarditis, COVID or not, and not allowed to play if positive.

Based on my understanding (and SD's post), there are tons of viruses that could cause myocarditis other than the scary ones like Covid or flu.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 04, 2020, 08:50:34 AM
I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.
Title: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on September 04, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Best I can find is that it was present in 36.5 out of every 100,000 (so like 0.0365% Or do I need another zero?). So yeah, I don’t think 1/3 of the population (much less 1/3 of the college athlete population) is normally just walking around with it unless I’m reading this wrong (definitely a possibility)

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on September 04, 2020, 09:07:18 AM
And link


https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/MyocarditisAndSuddenDeath.pdf


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2020, 09:23:26 AM
well expect to see John dougie to go into exile for another few months
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Post by: Fedor on September 04, 2020, 10:16:38 AM
I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.
They aren't and neither are the athletes at Penn St.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2020, 10:32:57 AM
I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.
They aren't and neither are the athletes at Penn St.
Auburn sports doc affirmed on a show this morning they have checked for myocarditis after every bad cold, flu, viral infection or other illnesses for over a decade.  On top of prescreening prior to participation across the board. 

Very disappointed in the misrepresentations and outright falsehoods being propagated. 
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: catastrophe on September 04, 2020, 01:01:10 PM
Best I can find is that it was present in 36.5 out of every 100,000 (so like 0.0365% Or do I need another zero?). So yeah, I don’t think 1/3 of the population (much less 1/3 of the college athlete population) is normally just walking around with it unless I’m reading this wrong (definitely a possibility)

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Yeah I think that is saying the DCM prevalence is 36.5/100k, and that myocarditis is present in 10-50% of those cases
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Post by: steve dave on September 04, 2020, 01:01:39 PM
That makes sense


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: kim carnes on September 04, 2020, 01:05:32 PM
I don't believe that 1/3 of the general population is walking around with myocarditis, but I would like to see a general study of it.
They aren't and neither are the athletes at Penn St.
Auburn sports doc affirmed on a show this morning they have checked for myocarditis after every bad cold, flu, viral infection or other illnesses for over a decade.  On top of prescreening prior to participation across the board. 

Very disappointed in the misrepresentations and outright falsehoods being propagated.

Wait what
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Post by: catastrophe on September 04, 2020, 01:06:13 PM
Although the link actually makes it seem super small still:

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It has been estimated that 200,000 competitive asymptomatic athletes would need to be screened to potentially identify one athlete who would die as a result of competition.
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Post by: Trim on September 04, 2020, 01:19:38 PM
Remember, myocarditis is primarily a big word that heroes hope will get football fans to shut the eff up when the games are canceled for the purpose of reducing coronoavirus spread in america. 
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Post by: michigancat on September 05, 2020, 02:57:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Gentry_Estes/status/1302312417926492160
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Post by: catastrophe on September 06, 2020, 01:45:27 PM
How close do you have to get to someone for contact tracing purposes? I would’ve guessed that when one person in a locker room gets it then all the others would count as contacts?
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on September 06, 2020, 01:52:03 PM


How close do you have to get to someone for contact tracing purposes? I would’ve guessed that when one person in a locker room gets it then all the others would count as contacts?

Yes you would think. Or even just participating in a scrimmage in an indoor facility. Could also have been something like smaller meeting rooms considering we've been hearing a lot about entire position groups sitting out at once.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2020, 02:42:45 PM
6 more days!
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2020, 02:47:43 PM
6 more days!



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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: KITNfury on September 06, 2020, 02:51:10 PM
Do we know who is out for covid?
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Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2020, 02:59:11 PM
Do we know who is out for covid?

Depends on if D Scott tricks coach Tui into spilling the COVID beans again in a press conference
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2020, 02:59:52 PM
Watching football yesterday was amazing! Especially on a plane. Semi normalcy. Will take!


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2020, 05:37:53 PM
Change the thread title!
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2020, 08:19:35 PM
SD is going to die on this hill and I admire him for that. It’s like thinking Sky will be in the NFL. You just have to stand your ground at times.


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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 06, 2020, 08:21:28 PM
You know he watched Marshall beat Eastern Kentucky’s ass though, with no affiliation, just to watch some football for once. Amen!


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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2020, 08:45:48 PM
Change the thread title!

the thread title is canon, I'm sorry. this isn't my call.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2020, 09:15:51 PM
I'm not counting what is happening this year as a legit season. (Unless we are really good.)
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Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2020, 09:27:04 PM
Only upside, no downside at all.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2020, 09:34:21 PM
I'm not counting what is happening this year as a legit season. (Unless we are really good.)

obviously
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 07, 2020, 07:00:12 AM
I am getting excited!
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2020, 07:40:32 AM
UAB housed Central Ark all week after CA opened in Montgomery.   UAB put them up in the university hotel and UABM tested the whole team 3 times prior to the game at Legion Field.   UAB footed the whole bill for their stay. 

In other observo’s I don’t see why K-Stare can’t have the band.  Other schools are doing it and it appears to be just fine.   Put the cheerleaders up on the North Concourse.   Space the whole group out across the NEndzone.

K-State is paying for extra Ark State testing.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WildcatPower on September 07, 2020, 12:47:30 PM
This thread aged well....
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Post by: Trim on September 07, 2020, 04:20:27 PM
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2020/9/7/k-states-soccer-2020-season-opener-postponed.aspx
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2020, 04:48:41 PM
https://www.kstatesports.com/news/2020/9/7/k-states-soccer-2020-season-opener-postponed.aspx

 :curse:
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 07, 2020, 08:55:37 PM
got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works? also feels like its gonna be a little odd without the family reunion this year  ;)
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 08:56:28 PM
got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works?
What is confusing you
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 07, 2020, 09:01:09 PM
got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works?
What is confusing you
transferring the tickets to my name, they did not send out physical tickets this year to my knowledge.
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Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:07:07 PM
This video seems both very silly and necessary

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=AK9lBCbUkKo
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Post by: Trim on September 07, 2020, 09:10:03 PM
got offered tickets for Saturdays game not sure how that works?
What is confusing you
transferring the tickets to my name, they did not send out physical tickets this year to my knowledge.

Can confirm my tickets haven't arrived yet.
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 07, 2020, 09:10:49 PM
got that.. but how about when I'm outside the stadium trying to scalp these suckers?
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Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:19:23 PM
Buy/sell online and wait as long as you can if you're buying
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Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:19:40 PM
Unless this is some kind of inside joke or prank
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 07, 2020, 09:30:35 PM
Yes, just joshing ya
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Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:31:21 PM
I'm so old
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 07, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
A fond memory of mine was going down to the cotton bowl with my brothers with no tickets and scalping some 50 ya line tix when it was cold ass balls and the cats beat Tennessee.  Can’t imagine scalping nowadays
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Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2020, 09:39:53 PM
I've gone to the Warriors parking lot without a ticket and just waited for prices to drop last minute on StubHub or Ticketmaster. Works a lot better on a weeknight.
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Post by: ben ji on September 08, 2020, 12:22:50 AM
My brother is still up in Idaho doing construction for the summer but through connections he made in the Music Festival industry he is flying back in town next weekend to work on the camera crew for the Arkansas State game (Pretty much holds the cords for a camera guy). He claims he can get me in as a worker for the KU game later this year and I'm seriously considering it just for the experience. 

IIRC its $300 for like 10 hours of work but most of that is standing around until the game starts. I think he has to do more prep work type stuff the night before but I would just be working that day.
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Post by: ben ji on September 08, 2020, 12:28:23 AM
He worked a couple of home games last year and had a funny story about the difference between Klieman/Snyder. I'll have to ask him about it but it was something to the effect of "There was a cooler full of ice cream bars etc for the gameday field staff (camera guys/cops/etc) that was locked because Snyder would only allowed to be opened after the game was over. Klieman keeps it open before/during/after the game!"
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2020, 12:55:37 AM
This video seems both very silly and necessary

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=AK9lBCbUkKo

Most of our STHs are like 60 somethings from Hoxie, it's super necessary
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Post by: PurpleOil on September 08, 2020, 07:03:22 AM
A fond memory of mine was going down to the cotton bowl with my brothers with no tickets and scalping some 50 ya line tix when it was cold ass balls and the cats beat Tennessee.  Can’t imagine scalping nowadays

I have only bought tickets via scalping 3 times in my life, and all 3 times were in Lawrence when we played them. Kinda fun just to go into town not knowing where you're going to sit but knowing you''ll get into the game. Three years ago I was on the 50 yard line about 15 rows up on the visitors side. Pretty sweet.
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Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259
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Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2020, 08:29:50 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1303499000847495168
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Post by: waks on September 08, 2020, 08:51:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259
Sad. Also wanted to add that may be the most confusing name for a school I've ever seen.
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Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2020, 09:07:42 PM
https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP/status/1303508617166032896
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Post by: pissclams on September 08, 2020, 09:30:41 PM
people should just play video games
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Post by: wetwillie on September 08, 2020, 09:32:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259

D2 hasn’t been participating in football activities since March.



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Post by: Trim on September 08, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
Interesting bit of trivia there from brett that Jamain Stephens jr.’s dad is also named Jamain.
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Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2020, 09:43:37 PM
https://twitter.com/ralphDrussoAP/status/1303508617166032896

Games NOT postponed:

Central Arkansas Arkansas State at Kansas State

:gocho:

EDIT: I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WE WERE PLAYING
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2020, 10:19:50 PM
Interesting bit of trivia there from brett that Jamain Stephens jr.’s dad is also named Jamain.

 :ROFL:
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 08, 2020, 10:24:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303492869395808259
The replies to that tweet :facepalm: my god people are really rough ridin' stupid
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Post by: Trim on September 08, 2020, 10:45:00 PM
KSU Football has slipped to 3rd in Riley County’s outbreak rankings.

https://themercury.com/news/riley-county-adds-two-new-covid-19-outbreaks-percent-positive-at-32-3/article_3be12a11-992a-5e60-bc00-f701342c5d0e.html
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Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2020, 10:47:53 PM
KSU Football has slipped to 3rd in Riley County’s outbreak rankings.

https://themercury.com/news/riley-county-adds-two-new-covid-19-outbreaks-percent-positive-at-32-3/article_3be12a11-992a-5e60-bc00-f701342c5d0e.html
Duds?
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Post by: Trim on September 08, 2020, 10:54:07 PM
KSU Football has slipped to 3rd in Riley County’s outbreak rankings.

https://themercury.com/news/riley-county-adds-two-new-covid-19-outbreaks-percent-positive-at-32-3/article_3be12a11-992a-5e60-bc00-f701342c5d0e.html
Duds?

Riley Co. has always treated the ‘cats very unfairly.
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Post by: steve dave on September 10, 2020, 05:48:30 PM
 :bwpopcorn:
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Post by: chum1 on September 10, 2020, 06:14:01 PM
 :bwpopcorn:
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 10, 2020, 06:39:31 PM



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Post by: wetwillie on September 11, 2020, 05:25:59 PM
Cats!
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Post by: chum1 on September 12, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
Lol

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1304890050988179461
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 12, 2020, 10:36:46 PM
Lol

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1304890050988179461

I don't understand why the rapid tests are being looked at as game changers, they aren't going to be testing more than 3 times a week anyway.
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Post by: michigancat on September 15, 2020, 11:38:10 AM
they're safer with their teams

https://twitter.com/BrodyAMiller/status/1305902674223730688
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Post by: Fedor on September 15, 2020, 04:44:05 PM
Twitter grumblings that the B10 is back! 
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 15, 2020, 04:48:09 PM
Twitter grumblings that the B10 is back! 

no one wants those losers.
With the exception of watching Frost crash and burn
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 16, 2020, 09:20:35 AM
Hopefully everyone has already had Covid because this seems like a stretch most of the games will be played in the big 10


https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1306235206316240899
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Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2020, 10:08:40 AM
Student athlete hearts are back on the menu boys!
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Post by: Trim on September 22, 2020, 10:15:53 PM
:lol:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29948004/baylor-ad-mack-rhoades-disappointed-houston-coach-dana-holgorsen-chirping
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Post by: wetwillie on September 24, 2020, 06:35:32 PM
https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1309267863715414018?s=21
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2020, 02:58:48 PM
https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/1312052883525779456

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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 02, 2020, 07:58:01 PM
is he an idiot? how did he think that would go over.
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Post by: Trim on October 03, 2020, 11:49:50 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30032868/smu-student-section-cleared-due-coronavirus-protocol-violations
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 04, 2020, 10:12:05 AM
i saw some SEC student sections and it appeared to be pretty maskless at times. Are they just downgrades down there? Every shot i saw of KSU and ISU's student section looked 100% masked up(maybe not all wearing them properly)
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Post by: Trim on October 08, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
https://twitter.com/brucefeldmancfb/status/1314320896417431552
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2020, 05:05:23 PM
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Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1324441464709869569
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Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 01:34:01 PM
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1324796619632463872
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 07, 2020, 09:31:38 AM
The PAC should have never comeback in the first place. Nobody missed them.
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Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2020, 07:53:08 AM
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1327245074472853507
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Post by: wetwillie on November 13, 2020, 08:24:10 AM
Wgaf we made it through the season and kept the schools financially solvent to make it to next year.
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Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 09:22:52 AM
https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1327245074472853507
Yeah now that the SEC is cancelling/postponing so many games it seems inevitable.
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on November 13, 2020, 03:43:58 PM
This season needs to go in the back.

https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1327364645191962624
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Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2020, 03:51:04 PM
It will soon


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Post by: Brock Landers on November 13, 2020, 03:56:05 PM
LOL at the Pac 12 trying to come back with a TLB Schedule.
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Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2020, 04:48:34 PM
the 9am local kickoffs are hilarious. USC/ASU was on at 9am last week and I was very confused
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 13, 2020, 04:57:34 PM
I love it.. sunday college football! I feel like TBS is back to broadcasting football games again
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Post by: fatdamon on November 14, 2020, 09:55:40 PM
Nobody missed them.

if i knew how to insert .gifs i would insert that one St. Bernard from billy madison that is like “SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, MORON”
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Post by: Gooch on November 16, 2020, 09:12:09 AM
Wisconsin is going to win the big 10 with a 5-0 maybe 6-0 record. Weird year.
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Post by: PurpleOil on November 19, 2020, 06:37:42 AM
Already posted in the KU is Hopeless thread, but felt appropriate here too.


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Saturday's game against between No. 22 ranked Texas and Kansas has been postponed. The Longhorns and Jayhawks were set to kick off at 2:30 p.m. CT on ESPN2, but those plans have changed due to the Big 12's COVID-19 position threshold requirements.

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Article/Texas-Longhorns-vs-Kansas-Jayhawks-postponed-due-to-Big-12-covid-19-154988659/
Title: Re: No 2020 College Football :-(
Post by: Trim on November 24, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
The pac 12 basically gets to Friday each week and checks who has adequate rosters and decides who plays who that weekend. They ought to scrap what’s left of a semblance of a schedule and just have teams calling each other out to play the next day.

I mean, the whole thing should go in the back, but short of that...
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 12:56:35 PM
Santa Clara County banned all contact sports

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1333479142642184194

https://twitter.com/KTVU/status/1333484641794150401
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2020, 01:05:59 PM
Why aren't the 49ers relocating to Alameda County?
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 01:13:20 PM
Why aren't the 49ers relocating to Alameda County?

that's a great question...Might be time/resources required getting the Coliseum ready for football? I don't imagine anyone is employed there now.

Cases are also blowing up in Alameda County and I wouldn't be shocked if there's a similar ban there while they know Arizona won't do crap.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2020, 01:15:22 PM
Why aren't the 49ers relocating to Alameda County?

that's a great question...Might be time/resources required getting the Coliseum ready for football? I don't imagine anyone is employed there now.

Cases are also blowing up in Alameda County and I wouldn't be shocked if there's a similar ban there while they know Arizona won't do crap.

Great points
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 01:16:29 PM
Well, I guess they could have easily played in Cal's stadium.
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 01:31:06 PM
what a dumb country

https://twitter.com/JasonSchwartz/status/1333478542399713282
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2020, 02:11:54 PM
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 02:20:56 PM
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.

it's all contact sports. They haven't been playing HS sports but SJSU and Stanford were also impacted.

I do know Santa Clara government has a weird relationship with the niners because of stadium disagreements but don't know if that's a county or city thing. I'm pretty sure Santa Clara county was the first place in the country to start shutting down events because of covid so I honestly think it's more of an overly cautious approach from the health department. (Or overly aggressive, depending on your perspective).
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2020, 07:57:07 PM
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.

it's all contact sports. They haven't been playing HS sports but SJSU and Stanford were also impacted.

I do know Santa Clara government has a weird relationship with the niners because of stadium disagreements but don't know if that's a county or city thing. I'm pretty sure Santa Clara county was the first place in the country to start shutting down events because of covid so I honestly think it's more of an overly cautious approach from the health department. (Or overly aggressive, depending on your perspective).

It's just that a ban on contact sports in one solitary county would have such a small impact on community spread and effects so few people I just don't understand what they're hoping to accomplish by doing it.
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Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2020, 08:09:44 PM
I don't think the ban on professional contact sports makes sense and it seems like it's being punitive of and specifically targeting the 49ers and Sharks.

it's all contact sports. They haven't been playing HS sports but SJSU and Stanford were also impacted.

I do know Santa Clara government has a weird relationship with the niners because of stadium disagreements but don't know if that's a county or city thing. I'm pretty sure Santa Clara county was the first place in the country to start shutting down events because of covid so I honestly think it's more of an overly cautious approach from the health department. (Or overly aggressive, depending on your perspective).

It's just that a ban on contact sports in one solitary county would have such a small impact on community spread and effects so few people I just don't understand what they're hoping to accomplish by doing it.


oh yeah county-by-county ordinances and the complete lack of travel restrictions are silly, at least in places like the Bay Area. I live in Alameda County and have no idea where the border to Santa Clara County even starts without googling (I think Alameda borders Santa Clara). But not sure what else counties can really do to slow the spread.

I think it's worth noting that there's absolutely nothing that would ban the team from having practice in Arizona and flying back to San Jose every night.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 01, 2020, 07:24:12 AM
I think concern about Covid within the confines of the most medically observed and tested population in the United States is a fantastic use of government oversight. 
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2020, 07:50:35 PM
 :ROFL:
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1333908475789774848
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 01, 2020, 07:51:55 PM
that's a good one.

Saw the CDC reduced the recommended quarantining period. Collège athletics should enjoy that.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 02, 2020, 06:43:07 AM
that's a good one.

Saw the CDC reduced the recommended quarantining period. Collège athletics should enjoy that.

Sadly, university officials and local public health officials are not following the science (did I say that right?)

If a person repeatedly tests negative for Covid . . . they don't have Covid (profound).   The Big 10 policy is particularly insane and is not grounded in anything that resembles current understanding of the virus.   

The Bronco's situation made additional mockery of all understanding of the virus and rendered testing protocols meaningless.

Medical professionals are now saying the heart issues are a complete non-factor and as I've said repeatedly, monitoring the heart has been SOP at the vast majority of P5 programs after every illness (Flu, bad cold, strep throat etc. etc) for a decade, if not more.





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Post by: michigancat on December 13, 2020, 11:41:42 AM
This is so hilarious and stupid and sad at the same time

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1338174986582802433

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1338175363818483712
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 13, 2020, 11:51:00 AM
what a fun year! I like the flexibility of schedules
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Post by: sys on December 13, 2020, 11:59:27 AM
what a fun year! I like the flexibility of schedules

it's weird when you never know when games will be, but i like it.  a random tuesday afternoon nfl game feels like opening a present.
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Post by: Trim on December 13, 2020, 12:01:00 PM
Pac 12 should've stuck with their plan and played some chip'd football in spring. Think of the promotion chip kelly could do!
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Post by: michigancat on December 13, 2020, 12:08:26 PM
Pac 12 should've stuck with their plan and played some chip'd football in spring. Think of the promotion chip kelly could do!

Honestly it would have been awesome
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Post by: bucket on December 13, 2020, 12:17:23 PM
what a fun year! I like the flexibility of schedules

it's weird when you never know when games will be, but i like it.  a random tuesday afternoon nfl game feels like opening a present.

They're the best.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2020, 12:44:38 PM
This is so hilarious and stupid and sad at the same time

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1338174986582802433

https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1338175363818483712

There's a poster on this blog that will get pissed if you point out how silly this is.
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Post by: bucket on December 13, 2020, 01:26:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1338174751592878082

I've been surprised by teams opting out of bowl games. I understand, to some degree, the challenges they've faced this season, but I'm surprised they would pass on those extra practices.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2020, 01:56:25 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1338174751592878082

I've been surprised by teams opting out of bowl games. I understand, to some degree, the challenges they've faced this season, but I'm surprised they would pass on those extra practices.

These are assuredly coaches deciding to let the players decide whether or not to play.

Even if a coach does make the decision with the AD and without consulting the players, the upside of opting out of the bowls, giving your players some R & R and letting them go home, could benefit your program more than two weeks of lackluster practice.
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Post by: pissclams on December 13, 2020, 03:19:26 PM
bowl games are expensive
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Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2020, 03:35:50 PM
How many teams have to forfeit their bid before we can play in a New Years Six Bowl
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Post by: michigancat on December 13, 2020, 03:43:31 PM
bowl games are expensive
Plus however many weeks of testing. I'm assuming they don't give a crap if the kids get sick for at least a couple months
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2020, 05:54:03 PM
bowl games are expensive

Yeah, Gene has said the bowls this year can essentially just cover expenses, I'd assume the NY6 and CFP are exceptions. Of course the biggest expense to the schools, ticket buy guarantees, won't be an issue this year.
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Post by: michigancat on December 14, 2020, 01:35:22 PM
great job everyone

https://twitter.com/laurenkirschman/status/1338561077655695360

https://twitter.com/laurenkirschman/status/1338567531854905344
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2020, 01:49:21 PM
Pac-12 continues to be the biggest joke in college football, next to 21 day quarantine Big-10.

Ohio State fans losing their crap because Harbaugh was talking about how their weightroom and other facilities were open last Friday.

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Post by: MakeItRain on December 14, 2020, 03:38:11 PM
What exactly should the Pac 12 have done to avoid Washington getting their OL wrecked with COVID?
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Post by: michigancat on December 14, 2020, 04:02:11 PM
What exactly should the Pac 12 have done to avoid Washington getting their OL wrecked with COVID?

play in the spring
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 14, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
Has nothing to do with getting Covid itself.  Do all the lineman actually have Covid?   They could have started with the 3 other major conferences and likely have played a reasonable number of games.

The Big 10 imposing a 21 day quarantine throws up in the face of everything that is known about the virus and is even more laughable in the highly intensive testing environment that exists. 

Playing in the Spring wouldn't have made any difference (particularly in light of the insanity of the leadership in many Pac and Big 10 states) and subsequently throws off the entire time line of Fall 2021.   
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 14, 2020, 04:10:35 PM
What exactly should the Pac 12 have done to avoid Washington getting their OL wrecked with COVID?

play in the spring

They would have been excluded from the CFP payouts and the rest of the schedule would have been thrown off. They would have forced their football team into essentially a March to January football season with a 6 week break.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 14, 2020, 04:16:08 PM
Has nothing to do with getting Covid itself.  Do all the lineman actually have Covid?   They could have started with the 3 other major conferences and likely have played a reasonable number of games.

Starting earlier wouldn't have prevented a COVID breakout, it didn't for West Virginia and Texas. There were 26 scheduled games last week from the conferences that started in August/September, 7 of those, more than a quarter of them, were cancelled.
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Post by: steve dave on December 23, 2020, 08:50:18 AM
https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1341556921044766720
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2020, 09:56:28 AM
So it is or it isn't related? :dunno:
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 28, 2020, 12:08:54 PM
Y'all hear about Mizzou and their scumbag coach scam Nashville and the University of Iowa out of having a bowl game? They had COVID issues with their last game, accepted a bow bid from the Music City Bowl, then didn't practice, they sent their players home after the regular season was over, then pulled out of the bowl three days before it was supposed to be played. They didn't tell the bowl they sent the kids home, so they sold tickets and employed people to work to prep the bowl, these people missing time with their families to prepare for a bowl that was never going to happen. They didn't tell Iowa either, so Iowa has been practicing this whole time, had to suspend workouts for three days last week, so for the back half of the week they couldn't go home nor hang out with their teammates. They came back to practice over the weekend only to find out that Missouri didn't practice and sent their players home.

rough ridin' brutal, he seems really smug about it too
https://twitter.com/NathalieABC17/status/1343322509022818306
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 28, 2020, 12:27:43 PM
holy crap, missed that. Might have to search out Iowa reactions
I hadn't even thought of the bowl side of having these games cancelled. Wonder how much they are out this year.
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Post by: waks on December 28, 2020, 12:36:06 PM
Wow, that's really shitty. NCAA should punish them or bowl selection committees should remember that in the future.
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Post by: cas4ksu on December 28, 2020, 01:49:48 PM
Y'all hear about Mizzou and their scumbag coach scam Nashville and the University of Iowa out of having a bowl game? They had COVID issues with their last game, accepted a bow bid from the Music City Bowl, then didn't practice, they sent their players home after the regular season was over, then pulled out of the bowl three days before it was supposed to be played. They didn't tell the bowl they sent the kids home, so they sold tickets and employed people to work to prep the bowl, these people missing time with their families to prepare for a bowl that was never going to happen. They didn't tell Iowa either, so Iowa has been practicing this whole time, had to suspend workouts for three days last week, so for the back half of the week they couldn't go home nor hang out with their teammates. They came back to practice over the weekend only to find out that Missouri didn't practice and sent their players home.

rough ridin' brutal, he seems really smug about it too
https://twitter.com/NathalieABC17/status/1343322509022818306

He is such a rough ridin' dork.

But he's a dork that's recruiting entirely too well so far.
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Post by: kashi1965 on December 28, 2020, 02:18:10 PM
Y'all hear about Mizzou and their scumbag coach scam Nashville and the University of Iowa out of having a bowl game? They had COVID issues with their last game, accepted a bow bid from the Music City Bowl, then didn't practice, they sent their players home after the regular season was over, then pulled out of the bowl three days before it was supposed to be played. They didn't tell the bowl they sent the kids home, so they sold tickets and employed people to work to prep the bowl, these people missing time with their families to prepare for a bowl that was never going to happen. They didn't tell Iowa either, so Iowa has been practicing this whole time, had to suspend workouts for three days last week, so for the back half of the week they couldn't go home nor hang out with their teammates. They came back to practice over the weekend only to find out that Missouri didn't practice and sent their players home.

rough ridin' brutal, he seems really smug about it too
https://twitter.com/NathalieABC17/status/1343322509022818306

He is such a rough ridin' dork.

But he's a dork that's recruiting entirely too well so far.
he's getting way too many quality recruits. Not sure if its him or his assistants. i dont see the attraction. but if he continues to recruit like this i would steal whatever assistant is doing the work
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Post by: Trim on February 25, 2021, 01:23:37 AM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30958869/clemson-justin-foster-retires-citing-issues-asthma-covid-19