No 2020 College Football :-(

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.   

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1296800496217477120

Insufferable

[MakeItRain]

LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.

No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.

I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.

Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.

No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.

I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.

Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.

I know exactly how Anthony Bates died. 

How do you know those schools weren't looking for that already?

Auburn doc was on the radio 2 weeks ago, he wrote a whole paper on Myocarditis 10 years ago, he said it can be caused by a number of things and they screen everybody at Auburn who has had a bad cold or the flu.

If the demand is going to be that medical staffs have to catch all possible conditions and all possible outcomes, then we should just shut down sports now, permanently. 

[MakeItRain]

LOL at the notion the "Clay Travis Tribe" won't care.

It's the Covid protocols that are catching these issues.

The heart condition doesn't care if you play football or not.

No, it isn't COVID protocols, it's cardiac screening that these schools should have been doing anyway but didn't start doing until the threat of coronavirus forced them to. Anthony Bates died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy 20 years ago, almost to the day. After he died his mother created the Anthony Bates Foundation to get this screening for young people. They have paid for this screening for regular ass K-State students since 2002, I myself got this screening for free thanks to the Bates family.

I'm not going to praise these schools or the coronavirus for screening for something they should have been looking for already.

Besides that really wasn't the point of my post. My point was people with this and similar cardiac conditions are at further risk if they contract coronavirus and Travis hive will just shrug this off because it's being tested for, by some, not others.

I know exactly how Anthony Bates died. 

How do you know those schools weren't looking for that already?

Auburn doc was on the radio 2 weeks ago, he wrote a whole paper on Myocarditis 10 years ago, he said it can be caused by a number of things and they screen everybody at Auburn who has had a bad cold or the flu.

If the demand is going to be that medical staffs have to catch all possible conditions and all possible outcomes, then we should just shut down sports now, permanently.

Some schools do, some schools don't. If they did cardiac testing before I don't know why they would mention finding heart problems with coronavirus protocols, that's what you claimed, not me. This would be like giving credit to coronavirus protocols for finding a lisfranc fracture.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's my understanding that schools are sending athletes in for heart screenings if they've had the Rona.

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Sad to see the mommies and daddies of these teenagers now doing the protesting for the little babies.

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/UofAlabama/status/1296933248438808576

https://twitter.com/CecilHurt/status/1296933722621718534

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[MakeItRain]

Sad to see the mommies and daddies of these teenagers now doing the protesting for the little babies.

But but but but they want to play! The thing is this probably not different from how they've dealt with their kids up to this point, giving them whatever the eff they want. These people are different from the "do it because the kids want to play" crowd but doesn't give two fucks about any other thing student athletes have requested about anything else at all. The amount of people who crap all over these athletes two months ago who now want to let them do what they want is infuriating.

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Sorry, it was a dax/portland joke I didn't really get the wording down right on.

[SkinnyBenny]

He knows exactly how Anthony Bates died, you guys.

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1297202281964855300


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[meow meow]

i'm fine with that, spring and fall football in the same calendar year makes zero sense

[wetwillie]

How much non TV revenue does KSU athletics stand to lose if no football gets played?

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1297202281964855300


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I would assume the nearly the entire K-State athletic department would be furloughed

[steve dave]

Yep. NU just furloughed a bunch.


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https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1296952187797544960

https://twitter.com/andywittry/status/1296955720995409920

[Katpappy]

How much non TV revenue does KSU athletics stand to lose if no football gets played?

I had heard it is in the 31mil +, if we're in the CFP.

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/AndyWittry/status/1296952187797544960

https://twitter.com/andywittry/status/1296955720995409920

100% reduction?!?

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https://twitter.com/kstatecollegian/status/1297279964442697736

[michigancat]

"VYPE Kansas" is big mad

Well, here I go. Iceberg dead ahead and I am going to steer straight into it. I generally try to avoid the dark and dangerous side of social media as it relates to political or social issues. At the end of the day, my voice is just another in a jungle of voices that may or may not agree with me. Frankly, it would be exceedingly rare for me to have an opinion, and I have many, that someone else has not already expressed on social media.
That being said, the decision that USD 259 made last night to suspend fall sports and in-school learning for the fall semester has me asking questions that I simply do not find other people asking. But wait, let me check that, in the last 12 hours I have had discussions with several people who do have the same questions I have. Therein lies my first contact with the iceberg and one of the most confusing and frustrating aspects of the 259 decision. Why does it seem that the majority opinion is the quietest voice and the minority opinion is the loudest voice and seems to have all the power? I am not a scientific pollster but I talk to a lot, and I mean a lot, of people and I simply cannot find a single voice that agrees with the decision outside of some 259 administration and some 259 educators. However, they seem to dominate the conversation and the decision-making process. Why is that?
As I continue to run down the jagged edge of the iceberg my next question is, “What the heck happened to common sense and logical thinking? The Corona virus sucks. It sucks because it can take the lives of those we love, it sucks because it can make us sick, it sucks because it has disrupted our way of life and livelihood and it sucks because we don’t really know anything about it or how to contain it. It also sucks because everyone interprets the numbers in a different way and presents those numbers in the way that best aligns with their own bias. I am no epidemiologist, but I can look at real numbers and make common sense and logical conclusions based on what those numbers tell me. What the virus numbers unquestionably tell me is that the virus is extremely dangerous for the elderly and people with pre-existing health conditions. The numbers also tell me that people who are younger and in reasonably good health are not likely to be hospitalized, or God forbid, pass away. Not that much different than a strong seasonal strain of the flu. So with that common sense and logic in mind, does it make any sense for grownups to make decisions that will negatively affect our children’s entire lifetime based on not using common sense and logic but rather personal or group narrative and bias on how the numbers are interpreted? It seems to me decisions are being made under the grandiose proposition that by shutting down we are saving lives or keeping kids and grownups safe. Safe from what? The numbers simply do not support that proposition. The list of, “You are more likely to die from X than the Corona virus” is an awfully long one and it certainly seems that not much is being done to address those other factors.
Not so long ago, common sense and logic among grownups also meant that we take care of our children. That we make decisions based on what is best for them not us. Given the realities, common sense and logic of the Corona virus numbers, are we grownups really making the best decision for our kids or for us? Last night on a local news channel a teacher said something along the lines of, “I am no spring chicken. I am older and close to retirement and teachers like myself need to be kept safe.” I agree. But, does keeping you safe mean we have to ruin the lives of our younger population by making them anti-social, by making them manage a terribly inefficient learning environment, by taking away the activities that will help define who they are as adults and by taking away all the opportunities that were afforded us grownups as children? If I had an opportunity to talk to that teacher, my response to her would be, “I totally understand your fear and concern about the potential effects of the Corona virus on your personal situation. However, is it reasonable to make an entire section of the population change their behavior to accommodate your fears? Wouldn’t it be more prudent for you take personal responsibility and make decisions about your health based on those fears? Maybe you don’t teach during the virus flight? Maybe you go above and beyond to take care of yourself? What I am ultimately trying to say here is that if everyone would manage the Corona virus as a personal health initiative instead of relying on public health initiatives, we would all be better off. Yes, it sucks to be elderly and have pre-existing health issues that make the Corona virus much more dangerous for you than the average high school student but that is a problem you need to manage and not take away an extremely important, life defining time of a high school kid. In defense of teachers and harking back to my previous comment on the power of the minority voice, most teachers are overwhelmingly in favor of going back to class and coaches are overwhelmingly in favor of getting back on the field. We have lost sight of the concept of the greater good.
Now that I have cleared the iceberg and the boat is sinking, I will add a couple more comments before I go down with my ship. First, regarding my opinion on an underlying issue that is likely driving the decisions around the management of the virus, one word, “Litigation”. I believe the fear of the legal action that administrators may have to deal with associated with “staying open” is weighing heavily on final decisions. Look no future than the process by which 259 came to last night’s decision. “Local coaches and players-let’s play and go to school on time. KSHSAA-let’s play and here is a good plan of action. Governor-let’s play but start late. Board of Regents-let’s have the districts decide. USD 259-let’s play. USD 259-let’s not play.” Does that process not have legal influence written all over it?
Second word, Media. Folks, there is simply no unbiased media source on the planet anymore. They all have agendas, they all have alliances, they all have their own narrative and they are all corporately owned and those corporations have their own agendas-that is why they own media! They are all obsessed with negative content because it breeds fear and they hope fear breeds an audience. I have not seen one mainstream media outlet accurately define the Corona virus numbers. Not one.
So, I am now underwater. I suppose I should try to make my last comment a real dozy!  Here we go! Our country is known as land of the free and home of the chiefs. We may want to look in the mirror because our management of Covid has been neither.
Mike Cooper

[MakeItRain]

I was reading on twitter about Wichita cancelling the sports season, funny this is the first I'm seeing that they also cancelled in person classes.

I am in the let's try to play camp, but I'm really annoyed by my camp mates, almost all of them are insincere about why they want athletes to play.

[sonofdaxjones]

Over the long haul, the impact of not playing will be far greater than the impact of playing with various restrictions in place.

IMO, the expansion/dawn of the academy system across all sports is here, and the death of college athletics as we know it has begun.

The academy system(s) will mean far fewer opportunities in the area of athletic endeavors.

Ultimately, this will trickle down even farther into high school sports.   Where some sports are considered an afterthought relative to travel teams/club outside of school programs that exist now.   In high school they'll be a trickle up throughout the whole of the sports hierarchy.   This could breed an environment that we already have with certain country club sports at the youth level.   Where only the moneyed thrive. 

[Pete]

Over the long haul, the impact of not playing will be far greater than the impact of playing with various restrictions in place.

IMO, the expansion/dawn of the academy system across all sports is here, and the death of college athletics as we know it has begun.

The academy system(s) will mean far fewer opportunities in the area of athletic endeavors.

Ultimately, this will trickle down even farther into high school sports.   Where some sports are considered an afterthought relative to travel teams/club outside of school programs that exist now.   In high school they'll be a trickle up throughout the whole of the sports hierarchy.   This could breed an environment that we already have with certain country club sports at the youth level.   Where only the moneyed thrive.

I'm tempted to say that I care about as much about this as sports-kid-parents care about non-sports-kids opportunities for activities and fulfillment.  Which is to say, that I am tempted to not give a eff.

However, that wouldn't be the right thing to do, because I must acknowledge that sports does play valuable role in kids lives, and particularly for at risk kids.  I need to separate that from my own personal anger about how at-risk non-sports kids are mostly just mumped, relatively speaking.