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Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« on: April 10, 2020, 07:14:45 PM »
It's a little late, but these dumb dumbs deserve a thread. Matt Walsh is patient zero



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I didn't realize our old racist friends Clay Travis was one of these guys until today. "Coronabros" lol



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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2020, 07:16:14 PM »
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2020, 08:08:31 PM »
that does seem dumb that you can't buy/sell seeds in michigan, if that is real.
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2020, 10:57:00 PM »
that does seem dumb that you can't buy/sell seeds in michigan, if that is real.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2020, 11:47:20 AM »
I think there's an interesting discussion there!  I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.

Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.

Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2020, 12:01:15 PM »
the fresno order (which presumably is at least as strict as the ca order, but i haven't read the ca one) classifies all retailers as essential businesses.

fresno is shutting down the city parks this weekend, which i don't know if it makes sense or not, but it's annoying.
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2020, 12:10:51 PM »
the fresno order (which presumably is at least as strict as the ca order, but i haven't read the ca one) classifies all retailers as essential businesses.

fresno is shutting down the city parks this weekend, which i don't know if it makes sense or not, but it's annoying.

if all retailers are essential, wtf is shut down other than restaurants and theaters?

I think park closures are a something that could really benefit from universal federal guidance. Like if there was a federal guideline for park visitor density, the cities could see if they were meeting it and shut it down if they were exceeding. No offense to the Fresno mayor but they probably don't really know if shutting down the parks will help but I imagine someone in the CDC could focus on park safety and advise the entire country.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2020, 12:23:00 PM »
to clarify, they are shutting parks down for the weekend and then opening them up again monday.  i assume to prevent easter cookouts, egg hunts, etc.  not shutting them down for good starting this weekend.
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2020, 12:23:51 PM »
I think there's an interesting discussion there!  I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.

Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.

Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.

Interesting take. This is more of a philosophical comment than a political comment, but we would have never formed the U.S.A. were this thinking part of the pact. Policies directed at the health, safety, and welfare of individuals have historically been the province of the States. I find it unthinkable that the federal government could tell a state that it cannot enact measures stricter than those mandated by the federal government to protect its citizens.

What do you think of Trump's EPA telling California that it must roll back its environmental regulations that sweep more broadly than federal regulations? Because that's a real thing that happened, and I have a feeling you aren't a fan of that.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2020, 12:32:06 PM »
I think there's an interesting discussion there!  I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.

Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.

Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.

I think disallowing furniture sales makes sense. I am not going to purchase a piece of furniture without sitting/laying in it first. No idea on paint, though.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2020, 12:33:33 PM »
i went and looked at the order again.  i'd skimmed before and saw where it said retailers remain open, but it later directs you to the city of fresno website for a list of non-essential businesses, and some of them are retail.

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BUSINESSES THAT SHALL CLOSE
All businesses not listed as May Remain Open shall close, with these additional clarifications:

    Amphitheaters
    Amusement and theme parks
    Amusement arcades
    Archery ranges
    Arenas
    Art galleries
    Arts
    Auto sales showrooms and lots
    Banquet halls
    Barbers and hair salons
    Bars
    Bookstores
    Botanical gardens
    Bowling alleys
    Car washes (exterior only, customer remains in vehicle allowed)
    Casinos and cardrooms
    Churches (counseling, providing relief, and broadcasting religious services permitted – but no congregations of people)
    Clothing stores
    Craft and fabric stores (may fulfill orders curbside for fabric to be used for COVID-19 relief)
    Dance halls
    Dances
    Day spas
    Drive-in theaters
    Fitness Centers
    Florists
    Furniture stores
    Golf courses and driving ranges
    Gymnasiums
    Health clubs
    Historical sites
    Ice rinks
    Industrial and manufacturing not expressly permitted
    Libraries
    Liquor stores (grocery and convenience stores permitted)
    Massage parlors
    Miniature golf courses
    Motorcycle clubs
    Movie theaters
    Museums
    Music events
    Nightclubs
    Performing arts centers
    Pet grooming
    Pool and billiards lounges
    Private social clubs
    Public swimming pools
    Riding stables
    Roller skating rinks
    Second hand/thrift stores
    Shooting ranges
    Sports stadiums and facilities – all
    Swap meet/flea market
    Tasting rooms
    Tattoo and body piercing
    Tennis clubs
    Trampoline and bounce houses
    Water parks
    Zoos
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2020, 01:17:12 PM »
I think there's an interesting discussion there!  I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.

Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.

Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.

Interesting take. This is more of a philosophical comment than a political comment, but we would have never formed the U.S.A. were this thinking part of the pact. Policies directed at the health, safety, and welfare of individuals have historically been the province of the States. I find it unthinkable that the federal government could tell a state that it cannot enact measures stricter than those mandated by the federal government to protect its citizens.

What do you think of Trump's EPA telling California that it must roll back its environmental regulations that sweep more broadly than federal regulations? Because that's a real thing that happened, and I have a feeling you aren't a fan of that.

yeah I'd be OK with them being allowed to create stricter regulations, but I'd prefer to see some sort of science backed reasoning. I put "allowed" in parentheses because hadn't thought much about it and it would require competence at the federal level. But I don't think a state should be allowed to do something like say "church is now OK without any restrictions".

I was really thinking more about use of expert resources, though. I don't think it's a good system to have 50 different expert departments creating guidelines from scratch. Like someone at the CDC should be able to tell all 50 states whether or not closing down the garden department at home depot will reduce the spread in a meaningful way - it won't spread differently in Michigan or Alabama or California and you shouldn't need different people scrambling to solve this problem in parallel.

Basically I think the system should be like this:

1) CDC coordinates with other federal departments to create general guidelines for different stages of distancing - like if you are seeing x growth rate, implement this, y growth rate implement that, etc. It would include details like crowd density in different settings - parks, factories, stores, etc, best practices for PPE in those locations and whatever
2) States/counties municipalities closely monitor local patterns and execute the federal guidelines once they hit or are very close to certain thresholds
2a) States adjust needs specifically to their needs. The environmental regulations example is a good one! Like if states are seeing parks used in unique ways that leads to damage, they could take independent actions to protect them. Deciding that hardware stores are unessential is a bad example.
3) Then reverse it for opening back up. Scott Gottlieb had something that laid it out pretty well.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2020, 04:12:36 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2020, 04:28:49 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2020, 05:28:42 PM »
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2020, 02:17:56 AM »
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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2020, 11:30:36 AM »
Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.

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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2020, 11:33:39 AM »
Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.

drive in movies get crowded at concessions and have playgrounds and kids running around.

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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2020, 11:35:27 AM »
Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.

drive in movies get crowded at concessions and have playgrounds and kids running around.

So shut down the concession stands and playgrounds.

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Re: Conservative Turds losing their damn minds over coronavirus
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2020, 11:41:03 AM »
Ah yes. Drive-in movie theatres. The engine of the national economy. The President needs to do something about this.