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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: michigancat on April 10, 2020, 07:14:45 PM
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It's a little late, but these dumb dumbs deserve a thread. Matt Walsh is patient zero
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1248754589240868865
Shitbag Jesse Kelly had rocketed into my awareness
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1248740002550419456
I didn't realize our old racist friends Clay Travis was one of these guys until today. "Coronabros" lol
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1248284466344275969
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Sean Davis is good too
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1248658456720150530
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that does seem dumb that you can't buy/sell seeds in michigan, if that is real.
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that does seem dumb that you can't buy/sell seeds in michigan, if that is real.
Yes.
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I think there's an interesting discussion there! I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.
Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.
Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.
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the fresno order (which presumably is at least as strict as the ca order, but i haven't read the ca one) classifies all retailers as essential businesses.
fresno is shutting down the city parks this weekend, which i don't know if it makes sense or not, but it's annoying.
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the fresno order (which presumably is at least as strict as the ca order, but i haven't read the ca one) classifies all retailers as essential businesses.
fresno is shutting down the city parks this weekend, which i don't know if it makes sense or not, but it's annoying.
if all retailers are essential, wtf is shut down other than restaurants and theaters?
I think park closures are a something that could really benefit from universal federal guidance. Like if there was a federal guideline for park visitor density, the cities could see if they were meeting it and shut it down if they were exceeding. No offense to the Fresno mayor but they probably don't really know if shutting down the parks will help but I imagine someone in the CDC could focus on park safety and advise the entire country.
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to clarify, they are shutting parks down for the weekend and then opening them up again monday. i assume to prevent easter cookouts, egg hunts, etc. not shutting them down for good starting this weekend.
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I think there's an interesting discussion there! I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.
Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.
Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.
Interesting take. This is more of a philosophical comment than a political comment, but we would have never formed the U.S.A. were this thinking part of the pact. Policies directed at the health, safety, and welfare of individuals have historically been the province of the States. I find it unthinkable that the federal government could tell a state that it cannot enact measures stricter than those mandated by the federal government to protect its citizens.
What do you think of Trump's EPA telling California that it must roll back its environmental regulations that sweep more broadly than federal regulations? Because that's a real thing that happened, and I have a feeling you aren't a fan of that.
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I think there's an interesting discussion there! I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.
Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.
Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.
I think disallowing furniture sales makes sense. I am not going to purchase a piece of furniture without sitting/laying in it first. No idea on paint, though.
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i went and looked at the order again. i'd skimmed before and saw where it said retailers remain open, but it later directs you to the city of fresno website for a list of non-essential businesses, and some of them are retail.
BUSINESSES THAT SHALL CLOSE
All businesses not listed as May Remain Open shall close, with these additional clarifications:
Amphitheaters
Amusement and theme parks
Amusement arcades
Archery ranges
Arenas
Art galleries
Arts
Auto sales showrooms and lots
Banquet halls
Barbers and hair salons
Bars
Bookstores
Botanical gardens
Bowling alleys
Car washes (exterior only, customer remains in vehicle allowed)
Casinos and cardrooms
Churches (counseling, providing relief, and broadcasting religious services permitted – but no congregations of people)
Clothing stores
Craft and fabric stores (may fulfill orders curbside for fabric to be used for COVID-19 relief)
Dance halls
Dances
Day spas
Drive-in theaters
Fitness Centers
Florists
Furniture stores
Golf courses and driving ranges
Gymnasiums
Health clubs
Historical sites
Ice rinks
Industrial and manufacturing not expressly permitted
Libraries
Liquor stores (grocery and convenience stores permitted)
Massage parlors
Miniature golf courses
Motorcycle clubs
Movie theaters
Museums
Music events
Nightclubs
Performing arts centers
Pet grooming
Pool and billiards lounges
Private social clubs
Public swimming pools
Riding stables
Roller skating rinks
Second hand/thrift stores
Shooting ranges
Sports stadiums and facilities – all
Swap meet/flea market
Tasting rooms
Tattoo and body piercing
Tennis clubs
Trampoline and bounce houses
Water parks
Zoos
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I think there's an interesting discussion there! I got curious and read the order and it says food and agriculture is essential work along with hardware stores. But it explicitly says to block off garden, paint and furniture in stores with more than 50k square feet. I would say it should be open and think she should explain how that got in there.
Really, it's madness that the federal government isn't providing better guidelines both on what should stay open but also what conditions trigger different levels of closure and social distancing at the state or local level. IMO the state shouldn't be expected (or maybe allowed) to create new special guidelines unless it involves a very specific regional need.
Regardless, I don't think it's a leftist dream scenario.
Interesting take. This is more of a philosophical comment than a political comment, but we would have never formed the U.S.A. were this thinking part of the pact. Policies directed at the health, safety, and welfare of individuals have historically been the province of the States. I find it unthinkable that the federal government could tell a state that it cannot enact measures stricter than those mandated by the federal government to protect its citizens.
What do you think of Trump's EPA telling California that it must roll back its environmental regulations that sweep more broadly than federal regulations? Because that's a real thing that happened, and I have a feeling you aren't a fan of that.
yeah I'd be OK with them being allowed to create stricter regulations, but I'd prefer to see some sort of science backed reasoning. I put "allowed" in parentheses because hadn't thought much about it and it would require competence at the federal level. But I don't think a state should be allowed to do something like say "church is now OK without any restrictions".
I was really thinking more about use of expert resources, though. I don't think it's a good system to have 50 different expert departments creating guidelines from scratch. Like someone at the CDC should be able to tell all 50 states whether or not closing down the garden department at home depot will reduce the spread in a meaningful way - it won't spread differently in Michigan or Alabama or California and you shouldn't need different people scrambling to solve this problem in parallel.
Basically I think the system should be like this:
1) CDC coordinates with other federal departments to create general guidelines for different stages of distancing - like if you are seeing x growth rate, implement this, y growth rate implement that, etc. It would include details like crowd density in different settings - parks, factories, stores, etc, best practices for PPE in those locations and whatever
2) States/counties municipalities closely monitor local patterns and execute the federal guidelines once they hit or are very close to certain thresholds
2a) States adjust needs specifically to their needs. The environmental regulations example is a good one! Like if states are seeing parks used in unique ways that leads to damage, they could take independent actions to protect them. Deciding that hardware stores are unessential is a bad example.
3) Then reverse it for opening back up. Scott Gottlieb had something that laid it out pretty well.
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https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/1249020511662878720
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1249030655834558464
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What is a drive thru church service
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What is a drive thru church service
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1248804042463227904
https://twitter.com/TheRightScoop/status/1248647353395032064
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Weird time rn to be praising/thanking god anyway.
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1249030655834558464
omg :lol:
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1249412488363376640
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https://twitter.com/johnnyb09274870/status/1249413003780468736
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What is a drive thru church service
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1248804042463227904
https://twitter.com/TheRightScoop/status/1248647353395032064
Does seem a little silly to be writing tickets for that if true.
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Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.
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Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.
drive in movies get crowded at concessions and have playgrounds and kids running around.
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Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.
drive in movies get crowded at concessions and have playgrounds and kids running around.
So shut down the concession stands and playgrounds.
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Ah yes. Drive-in movie theatres. The engine of the national economy. The President needs to do something about this.
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Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.
drive in movies get crowded at concessions and have playgrounds and kids running around.
So shut down the concession stands and playgrounds.
I don't think it would be worth it for the owners without concessions, but I could be wrong. Looks like a lot are still open though and I think they'll do really well post-lockdown.
https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2020/4/8/21191638/coronavirus-covid-19-drive-in-movie-theaters-box-office
and like spracne said, WGAF? Even the drive thru church shutdowns probably affect less than 1000 people. Let the conservatives go apeshit over it.
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i can't think of any reason why drive in churches would pose a significant transmission risk.
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Yeah, I don't see the point of shutting down any sort of drive in church service, or even drive in movies for that matter.
drive in movies get crowded at concessions and have playgrounds and kids running around.
So shut down the concession stands and playgrounds.
I don't think it would be worth it for the owners without concessions, but I could be wrong. Looks like a lot are still open though and I think they'll do really well post-lockdown.
https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2020/4/8/21191638/coronavirus-covid-19-drive-in-movie-theaters-box-office
and like spracne said, WGAF? Even the drive thru church shutdowns probably affect less than 1000 people. Let the conservatives go apeshit over it.
Exactly. I just think that the correct response to any sort of "WGAF?" issue is to leave the people alone instead of treating them like criminals.
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I think drive thru church is really dumb, but even super lib california for the most part is OK with them. It impacts a tiny number of people, whatever
https://laist.com/2020/04/11/easter-churches-los-angeles-riverside-san-bernardino-coronavirus-drive-car-services.php
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1249722102971805697
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1249722102971805697
That’s good, we should stop singing the national anthem before sporting events. What a silly tradition.
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Every team should have its own drinking song that everyone sings to get all fired up before the game instead.
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1249722102971805697
That’s good, we should stop singing the national anthem before sporting events. What a silly tradition.
Yes, it’s very outdated.
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I'd like you to think up a better way to tell people what country the game is being played in.
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you know when I went to Crystal Palace (I owe you all a recap) they didn't play the national anthem but holy crap they got pumped up when they played "Glad all Over". (But not when they played local legend Stormzy!)
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1249753658495062017
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If the anthem continues, I'll be happy to show Matt how to sit through it and pound beer and play on his phone. I mean, I'll demonstrate over zoom or whatever; I'm not going to a game until I'm vaccinated/chipped/immune.
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T's & P's michigancat.... :cry:
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1249853630833885184?s=20
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Lol michigan
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Walsh went Kapernick
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Walsh went Kapernick
:lol: :lol:
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Every team should have its own drinking song that everyone sings to get all fired up before the game instead.
When I went to Fort Hays for a couple years the band played and we sang In Heaven There Is No Beer before football games as part of the pre-game.
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not really losing his damn mind but LMAO
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1249783243500593155
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Wow lmao
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Is Jesse Kelly someone I should know? Feel like I'm missing the joke :(
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Is Jesse Kelly someone I should know? Feel like I'm missing the joke :(
He's just a conservative being an bad person. It also felt a bit dog whistly
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I need someone smarter than me to explain it to me. What's the funny part I'm missing?
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I need someone smarter than me to explain it to me. What's the funny part I'm missing?
Saying it looks like something he’d do is extremely tacky.
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It’s cringe’y
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I need someone smarter than me to explain it to me. What's the funny part I'm missing?
Saying it looks like something he’d do is extremely tacky.
But who is this guy and why should I care?
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I need someone smarter than me to explain it to me. What's the funny part I'm missing?
Saying it looks like something he’d do is extremely tacky.
But who is this guy and why should I care?
No idea
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He's a conservative turd, obviously
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He started getting retweeted all the time by Matt Walsh and folks like him when the lockdowns started
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I mean takes like this will get you noticed!
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1242440826317344768
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I'm not big on the Bible but is he comparing this preacher to Jesus???
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1250059230176071681
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The replies to that...woof. One was “now he’s getting praised by God instead of listening to the fear mongering down here, lucky him.”
Also, I don’t know much about the evangelical/baptist community, but are they cherry picking some verse to put their spouse above their kids? I’ve been seeing a lot more “Jesus, Husband/Wife, Father/Mother in that order” bios lately. They always put spouse first, as if Jerry Falwell Jr told them to. If I have to choose between my wife and kids, Mrs. Hamburg stands no chance.
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https://twitter.com/RandyRRQuaid/status/1250096390543495168?s=20
You serious, Clark?
:lol:
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https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1250786383267946497
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The replies to that...woof. One was “now he’s getting praised by God instead of listening to the fear mongering down here, lucky him.”
Also, I don’t know much about the evangelical/baptist community, but are they cherry picking some verse to put their spouse above their kids? I’ve been seeing a lot more “Jesus, Husband/Wife, Father/Mother in that order” bios lately. They always put spouse first, as if Jerry Falwell Jr told them to. If I have to choose between my wife and kids, Mrs. Hamburg stands no chance.
I believe that has always been the way it is laid out.
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https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1251300355582935046
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The replies to that...woof. One was “now he’s getting praised by God instead of listening to the fear mongering down here, lucky him.”
Also, I don’t know much about the evangelical/baptist community, but are they cherry picking some verse to put their spouse above their kids? I’ve been seeing a lot more “Jesus, Husband/Wife, Father/Mother in that order” bios lately. They always put spouse first, as if Jerry Falwell Jr told them to. If I have to choose between my wife and kids, Mrs. Hamburg stands no chance.
I believe that has always been the way it is laid out.
Kids used to die way more often than they do now.
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https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1251300355582935046
imagine being that dumb
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https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1251300355582935046
imagine being that dumb
They reopened the beaches for a reason
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This because a very important talking point for conservatives yesterday
https://twitter.com/JohnEkdahl/status/1251359031064702977
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This because a very important talking point for conservatives yesterday
https://twitter.com/JohnEkdahl/status/1251359031064702977
Would this dump eff be happy if they shut down public transportation in NYC. Or is he just itching to put on his G-string and go swimming.
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https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1251300355582935046
imagine being that dumb
I’m going to make a “shame yourself” post here. The first 20 times I saw those tweets I couldn’t understand why everyone was giving him such a hard time for just not putting on the bottom strap. I thought he just had a nice mask instead of an annoying behind the ears one.
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https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1251300355582935046
imagine being that dumb
I’m going to make a “shame yourself” post here. The first 20 times I saw those tweets I couldn’t understand why everyone was giving him such a hard time for just not putting on the bottom strap. I thought he just had a nice mask instead of an annoying behind the ears one.
I'm a scarf guy. I too shouldn't be a governor. Not sure what Ron's excuse is.
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1252391630490877952
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https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1256057218329276416
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1261663256072028162
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Outstanding meltdown #cRusty
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Usually this is reserved for conservative media but I think this applies!
https://twitter.com/KevinVesey/status/1261001977598808065
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MAGA
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261470041221902338
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261651008398282754
Psychopath in chief
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Hong Kong Flu: 125K American's dead, tens of millions infected, even the POTUS and the VPOTUS got sick, hundreds of thousands dead world wide.
Zero shut downs, barely even made the front page news, they held Woodstock.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/why-life-went-on-as-normal-during-the-killer-pandemic-of-1969/
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Wrong thread
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Wrong thread
:curse: as usual
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man, maqas love yelling at the local news lmao
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man, maqas love yelling at the local news lmao
Frightening
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lmao
https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1262365081452662785
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https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/1262502173952421889
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yikes
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1262439059994992643
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Lotta conservative turds here
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1271203807712575489
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Wonder if the protest organizers make you sign a coronavirus waiver like Trump does.
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Obviously you don't know about all the bullshit paperwork antifa makes you fill out on your first day
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Obviously you don't know about all the bullshit paperwork antifa makes you fill out on your first day
:ROFL: That was only in the Statin and Hitler days. :ROFL:
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Why weren't the author's names circled as well, and what is being protested at the trump rally? Protesting against equal rights?
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I've been slacking
https://twitter.com/bethanyshondark/status/1285890699746054144
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Imagine defending that crazy fake doctor
https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/1288115538657386500
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Imagine being part of a campaign that's openly conjuring up a myriad of ridiculous bogeymen about a drug that's been around for 5 to 6 decades and is taken by millions of people every day, and collectively been doled out in doses numbering in the tens of billions in the course of its history.
It's amazing.
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1289923844711436288
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1289924952213221376
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LOL who is Clay dunking on here?
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1439410038423134210
(Also pretty sure New York has had boatloads of sold out sporting events going back to the NBA playoffs in April)
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https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1444853847734771712
everyone made fun of him and laughed at him so of course
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1444887207614066689
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I'm just upset that he said 'no cap'. I'll also take this to the signs of getting old thread.
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I'm just upset that he said 'no cap'. I'll also take this to the signs of getting old thread.
He needs to be beaten with a sock full of hot quarters for that
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https://twitter.com/jasonscampbell/status/1457835361812496395?s=21
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