Kansas Completely Irrelevant

[sonofdaxjones]

Look at the actual numbers Ben . . . and should I post Lew's quotes again from this last April about ku athletics operating in the red??

There's a reason the IRS is still auditing ku athletics.

[pike]

My guess is he goes to whichever offers first.  Nail in KU basketball's coffin.  They had a pretty nice run despite all the violations and junk. 

Rapings, shootings, DUIs, and fast food incidents.

[OregonSmock]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html


Some highlights from the article:

6. Kansas becomes a LeBron-like free agent.
One of the great mysteries amid the ongoing Pac-16 speculation is what will become of Kansas, which, while not necessarily a football power, has a huge alumni base, sits in a decent TV market and, most notably, boasts one of the nation's most prestigious basketball programs. It's seems hard to believe the Jayhawks will fade into the wilderness.

Kansas has pledged its loyalty to the Big 12, but if the league implodes, who's to say the Big Ten wouldn't couple KU with Missouri? For all we know, Jim Delany prefers the Jayhawks. If not the Big Ten, what about the basketball-centric Big East, which knows no geographic bounds (see: Marquette)? It could be that KU can't go anywhere without K-State, thus diminishing its appeal, but if not, another major program could be changing major conferences.

11. A new conference is born.
For a brief, glorious four-year run in the early '90s, Nick Van Exel (Cincinnati), Penny Hardaway (Memphis) and Tom Kleinschmidt (DePaul) wreaked havoc in the short-lived Great Midwest. Why not bring it back -- only with a different lineup and a football edition?
I hereby propose the following consortium of teams plucked from the potential wreckage of the Big 12 and Big East: Cincinnati, Memphis, Louisville, West Virginia, USF, Connecticut, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor. With a couple of strong years, who's to say this league wouldn't qualify for BCS status?

[Trim]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html


Some highlights from the article:

6. Kansas becomes a LeBron-like free agent.

Both 2nd-round losers? 

[FHSU92]

Would they be more attractive than ksu if teams could actually fly into Lawrence like they can with the Hat?

[sonofdaxjones]

Butt hurt squawkville has cranked the validation and affirmation up to 11 . . . shooting for 12.

[Dugout DickStone]

ku fans are not taking this confirmation of their irrelevance very well. 

[chum1]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.

[pissclams]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.

only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

[FHSU92]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

What's the "unable to" part?  Is it being in a FBI/IRS investigation thingy; or, that they don't have room for a team from Hickrence, KS?

[sonofdaxjones]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.

only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

You know clams the overall power and weight this board carries across the spectrum of sports and world affairs can be a burden at times . . . but I think you'll agree it's worth it.

[michigancat]

only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

Exactly.  Here's what happened:

1)  Pac 10 "bigwig" really really wants Kansas.
2)  Bigwig reads Pete's post.
3)  Bigwig says, "well, guess we'll take OU/OSU instead.  Shucks."

[Dr Rick Daris]

only b/c the P10 listens to 810 and also had read Pete's post about the schools being connected.  if it weren't for Pete and BITB, KU would already be in the PAC 10 or Conference Elite.

Exactly.  Here's what happened:

1)  Pac 10 "bigwig" really really wants Kansas.
2)  Bigwig reads Pete's post.
3)  Bigwig says, "well, guess we'll take OU/OSU instead.  Shucks."

big 10 was a little different though.

1) big 10 wants to expand
2) big 10 studies expansion for like a year
3) big 10 totally wants ku
4) big 10 backs off as soon as they read a quote from BoR member dan lykins online in the topeka capital journal saying that ku and ksu as besties

[Brock Landers]

uk trying to convince everyone they are worthy of a megaconference invite reminds me of the scene in Risky Business, where Joel has the guy from Harvard in for an interview while there is a giant party going on around them.


Big 10/Pac 10 Guy:  "Let's see here.  A couple of fluky National Championships, multiple Final Four appearances.....ooooh, are those Helms title banners up there?  JV Tennis.....You've done some solid work but it's just not BCS Conference now, is it?"

uk:  (puts on sunglasses)  "Looks like Mountain West to me!!"

[OregonSmock]

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/06/why-texas-tech-got-the-nod-ahead-of-kans.html


Some people in Kansas City have expressed surprise that Texas Tech was included among the six Big 12 schools getting possible invites to the Pac-10, ahead of Kansas and Baylor.

(Don't take offense, Red Raider fans. It's a fair question).

One person with knowledge of the college football landscape offered an interesting explanation. The Texas political scene might make it difficult for Texas and Texas A&M to exit, leaving Tech in a husk of a conference. Rather than risk losing the Longhorns and Aggies, the Pac-10 opted for Tech, which has been extremely competitive in football and has added capacity to Jones AT&T Stadium. Three members in Texas is not necessarily a bad thing.

Kansas has great basketball tradition and some name value, along with bringing the Kansas City market. But the Pac-10 would probably have to take Kansas State along with KU.

Baylor, despite success in just about every sport except football, was hurt by being a private, church-affiliated school. The Pac-10 consists of large, secular, state schools. Remember the reports of how the conference was not sold on BYU? Baylor may have found itself in the same situation, which is a little bit of a shame given the basketball success this past season.



 

[michigancat]

That article is from Friday, bro.  The bolded part is false.

[OregonSmock]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.

The Pac 10 wants KU, but they don't want K-State.  You guys are like a cancer that won't go away.

[CNS]

Am I the only one not hearing all the swirling rumors of other conferences wanting KU?

[WillieWatanabe]

I just checked phog on this stuff for the first time.  It seems many are taking solace in the notion that the Pac-10 actually wants to take KU, but is unable to. 

Pac 10 couldn't care less about ku.

The Pac 10 wants KU, but they don't want K-State.  You guys are like a cancer that won't go away.

excellent work...great bbsing.

[KITNfury]

That article is from Friday, bro.  The bolded part is false.

Yep it's false, and they are still being passed over. Ouchies.

[Rage Against the McKee]

 

It's all K-State's fault. It has nothing to do with your fans not showing up to football games, or your football team sucking. Did you know that the BCS bowl last year with the two mid-majors actually drew better ratings than your Orange Bowl victory over Virginia Tech? To make matters worse, you know that everyone with even a curiosity about KU was watching that game because it was probably the last time KU will ever be in that position.

[sonofdaxjones]

Poor kid . . . that post was just an absolute fail on every level.

Sad . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben is just relegated to parrotting Tardville talking points . . . it has literally been weeks since he had anything original . . . so very sad.

[chum1]

The Pac-10 wants Texas and anyone else needed to get Texas.  That's it.  Whether or not KU and KSU are tied together is completely irrelevant.