CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[DQ12]

FWIW, I'd be pretty surprised if stores like target start requiring chip papers. 

[wetwillie]

FWIW, I'd be pretty surprised if stores like target start requiring chip papers. 

Yo tambien hermano

[Trim]

It’d be great if among competing businesses, some require chips and some don’t and the free market runs its course.

[DQ12]

It’d be great if among competing businesses, some require chips and some don’t and the free market runs its course.

Yeah I guess I don't totally see the point.  If I'm chipped then IDGAF if some non-chipped cretin shops next to me.  And if I'm not chipped yet, then daddy still needs groceries.

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It’d be great if among competing businesses, some require chips and some don’t and the free market runs its course.

Yeah I guess I don't totally see the point.  If I'm chipped then IDGAF if some non-chipped cretin shops next to me.  And if I'm not chipped yet, then daddy still needs groceries.

Well, the good 'chip is only 95% effective.  If you've got nothing but 95's (shout to Devon Peterson) mingling in your shop, pretty low risk of a problem.  Add in a bunch of 0's (in COVID protection and life generally), what, 1 in 20 of the chip'd can still get it from some loser?

Beyond that, for my personal shopping satisfaction, it'd be nice to know that the people I'll be around in one store are all normal or better people who wisely got chip'd, and that I can stay out of the store that allows unchip'd and probably attracts those sorts of "muh freedom" people, not just becaue they're COVID-ridden but because they're gross across the board.

[michigancat]

I don't see them ever being required but I'm assuming there will people who for some reason or another many people won't be able to safely get the chip and need the protection of a chipped population. That's why the anti-vaxxers are so problematic - it isn't just about protecting yourself.

I thought everyone knew this

[Dugout DickStone]

It's about liability.

[IPA4Me]

Haven't been asked to show my vax card since I joined the Navy. Good bbs'n though. Carry on smartly.

[steve dave]

France has a bill or whatever they call them over there being considered that would require proof of vacc to use public transportation.


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[steve dave]

Haven't been asked to show my vax card since I joined the Navy. Good bbs'n though. Carry on smartly.

Most universities require proof of vaccinations. K-12 schools as well.


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[Dugout DickStone]

Most schools do.  This is not new or controversial.  Retail will simply find a way to either confirm your chipping or you will waive/release them from liability. 

Once we stamp the bug out, they will stop.

[DQ12]

I don't see them ever being required but I'm assuming there will people who for some reason or another many people won't be able to safely get the chip and need the protection of a chipped population. That's why the anti-vaxxers are so problematic - it isn't just about protecting yourself.

I thought everyone knew this

Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

Most schools do.  This is not new or controversial.  Retail will simply find a way to either confirm your chipping or you will waive/release them from liability. 

Once we stamp the bug out, they will stop.

How long are you expecting public places to pay for someone to require proof for every customer around the clock?  Like, forever?

I'm really struggling to see the liability risk you're talking about.

[Dugout DickStone]

I don't see them ever being required but I'm assuming there will people who for some reason or another many people won't be able to safely get the chip and need the protection of a chipped population. That's why the anti-vaxxers are so problematic - it isn't just about protecting yourself.

I thought everyone knew this

Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

Most schools do.  This is not new or controversial.  Retail will simply find a way to either confirm your chipping or you will waive/release them from liability. 

Once we stamp the bug out, they will stop.

How long are you expecting public places to pay for someone to require proof for every customer around the clock?  Like, forever?

No clue.  Hadn't considered that "public places" might do this.  Would be interesting to consider had I brought it up.    Never mentioned public places in any of my posts.  At first blush, I would assume until the vaccine has been effectively administered, it seems like most experts think a year at the longest to get most of the US chipped.  So, at minimum wage that $40-50k outlay for one year seems like a decent deal

[Phil Titola]

All this vax/chip talk gets me horned up to watch some "this vaccine is the sign of the beast" twitter/tiktok crazies.

[DQ12]

I don't see them ever being required but I'm assuming there will people who for some reason or another many people won't be able to safely get the chip and need the protection of a chipped population. That's why the anti-vaxxers are so problematic - it isn't just about protecting yourself.

I thought everyone knew this

Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

Most schools do.  This is not new or controversial.  Retail will simply find a way to either confirm your chipping or you will waive/release them from liability. 

Once we stamp the bug out, they will stop.

How long are you expecting public places to pay for someone to require proof for every customer around the clock?  Like, forever?

No clue.  Hadn't considered that "public places" might do this.  Would be interesting to consider had I brought it up.    Never mentioned public places in any of my posts.  At first blush, I would assume until the vaccine has been effectively administered, it seems like most experts think a year at the longest to get most of the US chipped.  So, at minimum wage that $40-50k outlay for one year seems like a decent deal

I guess I don't see the significant difference between a target and a restaurant/bowling alley/movie theater/etc., as examples of "public places."

I also don't see any important distinction between asking for papers in April and asking for papers in January of '21, assuming die-hard non-chippers comprise any significant portion of the gen pop.

From a risk perspective, I think places (whether it's target/grocery store/movie theater etc.) would actually be assuming more risk if they opted to require papers. 

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Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

COVID aside, wouldn't you rather be around the type of people who understood the importance of getting chip'd and did so?  Like beyond that they're chip'd, that they're not gross dumbfucks?  Maybe it's just the Judge in me. 

[star seed 7]

I don't see why any business would require it. It's also going to be a compliance nightmare with all the chip'rs walking around maskless. I could easily see requiring masks for everyone for most of next year.

[DQ12]

Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

COVID aside, wouldn't you rather be around the type of people who understood the importance of getting chip'd and did so?  Like beyond that they're chip'd, that they're not gross dumbfucks?  Maybe it's just the Judge in me.

Yeah if someone is an anti-chipper, I'm thinking less of them.  I'll still shop in the same store as them to the extent it's even slightly more convenient.

[Phil Titola]

Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

COVID aside, wouldn't you rather be around the type of people who understood the importance of getting chip'd and did so?  Like beyond that they're chip'd, that they're not gross dumbfucks?  Maybe it's just the Judge in me.

My first indoor bar experience in 21 would for sure be a chip certified bar.

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Right.  I get that. I was responding to the "Free Market" hypo from Trim, and saying that from my perspective (getting chipped sometime in the spring probably), which I assume will be shared by the vast majority of the populace, i won't really care if I'm shopping at a non-chip-requisite store.  I imagine some chipped people would go out of their way to shop at a chip store, but I doubt it would enter the equation for most people.

COVID aside, wouldn't you rather be around the type of people who understood the importance of getting chip'd and did so?  Like beyond that they're chip'd, that they're not gross dumbfucks?  Maybe it's just the Judge in me.

Yeah if someone is an anti-chipper, I'm thinking less of them.  I'll still shop in the same store as them to the extent it's even slightly more convenient.

I have a lot of time flexibility, so I'm already often doing life tasks in not necessarily the most convenient way in order to minimize my exposure to the undesirable.

[IPA4Me]

Haven't been asked to show my vax card since I joined the Navy. Good bbs'n though. Carry on smartly.

Most universities require proof of vaccinations. K-12 schools as well.


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Yes, SD, that would have been before I showed it to the Navy.


Y'all are high as kites if you think retail will be checking chip cards at the door.

[steve dave]

Haven't been asked to show my vax card since I joined the Navy. Good bbs'n though. Carry on smartly.

Most universities require proof of vaccinations. K-12 schools as well.


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Yes, SD, that would have been before I showed it to the Navy.


Y'all are high as kites if you think retail will be checking chip cards at the door.

I know, I was just adding it in general.

There’s already a lot of politicizing/posturing going on in higher Ed about adding the Covid Vacc to the required. It’s very bizarre. Interestingly, some institutions are being reduced to using right wing politicians own bigotry to get them to get on board with adding it. “What if dirty foreigners bring it onto our campus?”


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[catastrophe]

You can link to the law.  I'll wait

I don't know where you live, but I'm guessing there either is or was a mask mandate there, and that your Target was handing them out because the expense per mask is a net benefit to them if it allowed you shop to there.

Turned away for not using hand sanitizer is a new one for me.  If you think that is liability related, then my professional advice is that they have a better chance of warding off litigation by throwing salt over their shoulder.

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https://twitter.com/AnnieMapp_/status/1341799192981893124

[steve dave]

holy crap

https://twitter.com/KansasGOP/status/1341820809468325889