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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9425 on: August 17, 2020, 07:33:20 AM »
Why is he comparing Stockholm to the state of New York vs New York City?


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He compared the cities in the thread.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9426 on: August 17, 2020, 07:36:57 AM »
https://twitter.com/yinonw/status/1295152579941249024?s=21


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Related. I've been low-key fanboy of this data for months but never could commit and have doubts

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity.html

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9427 on: August 17, 2020, 08:27:26 AM »
Summary please

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9428 on: August 17, 2020, 08:30:05 AM »
Summary please

New models showing herd immunity could be as low as 20% but there is obviously not any real consensus but it aligns with the data shown in Wacky's tweet that communities with antibodies around 15-20% then they have seen a decrease in spread which could very well be due to the mitigations put into place but Sweden did much less mitigation wise and are around same numbers.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9429 on: August 17, 2020, 08:34:58 AM »
Summary please

New models showing herd immunity could be as low as 20% but there is obviously not any real consensus but it aligns with the data shown in Wacky's tweet that communities with antibodies around 15-20% then they have seen a decrease in spread which could very well be due to the mitigations put into place but Sweden did much less mitigation wise and are around same numbers.

So, Sweden is out of the woods?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9430 on: August 17, 2020, 08:39:36 AM »


Summary please

New models showing herd immunity could be as low as 20% but there is obviously not any real consensus but it aligns with the data shown in Wacky's tweet that communities with antibodies around 15-20% then they have seen a decrease in spread which could very well be due to the mitigations put into place but Sweden did much less mitigation wise and are around same numbers.

So, Sweden is out of the woods?

The article showed lots of places with higher than 20% antibody rates. Also the herd immunity threshold will change as societies reopen. (Even Sweden shut down all large events and closed universities and high schools, for example).

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9431 on: August 17, 2020, 08:41:17 AM »
Summary please

New models showing herd immunity could be as low as 20% but there is obviously not any real consensus but it aligns with the data shown in Wacky's tweet that communities with antibodies around 15-20% then they have seen a decrease in spread which could very well be due to the mitigations put into place but Sweden did much less mitigation wise and are around same numbers.

So, Sweden is out of the woods?

Nobody can settle on an answer.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9432 on: August 17, 2020, 10:17:48 AM »
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1295077882402832384

I am not sure about other states, but in CO getting a rapid test is pretty easy.  Anyone can make an apt at an urgent care for a rapid test, and depending on insurance it can cost up to $50.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9433 on: August 17, 2020, 10:57:17 AM »
these case studies are probably interesting to Phil

https://twitter.com/janerecker/status/1295378693074964480

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9434 on: August 17, 2020, 11:05:43 AM »
these case studies are probably interesting to Phil

https://twitter.com/janerecker/status/1295378693074964480

Those are good.  Thanks.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9435 on: August 17, 2020, 11:27:20 AM »
The article showed lots of places with higher than 20% antibody rates. Also the herd immunity threshold will change as societies reopen. (Even Sweden shut down all large events and closed universities and high schools, for example).

i probably shouldn't be surprised how gullible and unsystematic people are in their thinking, but it does still usually surprise me.  good lord, all of you (not michigan).
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9436 on: August 17, 2020, 11:29:10 AM »
Nobody can settle on an answer.

plenty of people can settle on an answer.  but of course you can always search out and find people that have not if you're looking for that.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9437 on: August 17, 2020, 11:33:11 AM »
Sweden:  5,700 deaths from Covid-19, no lockdown

NYC:  27,000 deaths from Covid-19, lockdown

Lockdowns kill


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9438 on: August 17, 2020, 11:35:54 AM »
Nobody can settle on an answer.

plenty of people can settle on an answer.  but of course you can always search out and find people that have not if you're looking for that.

I was summarizing the article.  I totally agree this data is impacted by the mitigations in place in each country and I posted that earlier. 

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9442 on: August 17, 2020, 11:10:41 PM »
This has probably already been posted.

https://news.yale.edu/2020/08/15/yales-rapid-covid-19-saliva-test-receives-fda-emergency-use-authorization

Are these the ones rich people use to let people into their swank parties in the Hamptons or whatever.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9443 on: August 17, 2020, 11:19:19 PM »
This has probably already been posted.

https://news.yale.edu/2020/08/15/yales-rapid-covid-19-saliva-test-receives-fda-emergency-use-authorization

Are these the ones rich people use to let people into their swank parties in the Hamptons or whatever.

It's what's going to save college football.

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« Reply #9444 on: August 17, 2020, 11:31:59 PM »
This has probably already been posted.

https://news.yale.edu/2020/08/15/yales-rapid-covid-19-saliva-test-receives-fda-emergency-use-authorization

Are these the ones rich people use to let people into their swank parties in the Hamptons or whatever.

It's what's going to save college football.

Hells yeah. Hopefully they become widely available and we can use them everywhere soon
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9445 on: August 18, 2020, 12:10:45 AM »

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9447 on: August 18, 2020, 10:07:17 AM »
This rough ridin' lady.

https://twitter.com/gregggonsalves/status/1295499519988310018

she couldn't be more right. we are rough ridin' crybabies over wearing masks and not being able to go to bars, I can't imagine what a reaction to a REAL lockdown would be like.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9448 on: August 18, 2020, 11:17:46 AM »
This rough ridin' lady.

https://twitter.com/gregggonsalves/status/1295499519988310018

she couldn't be more right. we are rough ridin' crybabies over wearing masks and not being able to go to bars, I can't imagine what a reaction to a REAL lockdown would be like.
What constitutes a "real lockdown"?


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #9449 on: August 18, 2020, 11:22:55 AM »
There's a reason why Italy is banging the tincup in Brussels wanting to be bailed out by the EU.