CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[Dugout DickStone]

There hasn’t been a modern era pandemic yet without an estimated 75-85 million infected in the United States.

But now Useful Idiot Nation has completely lost its mind. 

Sad

I am sure I have said this before but, wow, you are so bad at expressing thoughts and ideas through the written word.  You are so super lucky you don't have to make a living that way.  You had to edit that mind fart.

[sonofdaxjones]

There hasn’t been a modern era pandemic yet without an estimated 75-85 million infected in the United States.

But now Useful Idiot Nation has completely lost its mind. 

Sad

I am sure I have said this before but, wow, you are so bad at expressing thoughts and ideas through the written word.  You are so super lucky you don't have to make a living that way.  You had to edit that mind fart.

Oh Super Slow Dug, you always get really  when facts get in the way of parroted Useful Idiot Talking points.

[sonofdaxjones]

Chinese doctors are seeing the coronavirus manifest differently among patients in its new cluster of cases in the northeast region compared to the original outbreak in Wuhan, suggesting that the pathogen may be changing in unknown ways and complicating efforts to stamp it out.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/20/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/china-new-coronavirus-outbreak/#.XsVJvIhKjD4

[420seriouscat69]

https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1262880127106629632?s=21

[star seed 7]

Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

[michigancat]

coronabros will be furious

[420seriouscat69]

100!

[420seriouscat69]

Have we looked at overall death numbers during this time vs last year? Are we down overall? I wouldn't be surprised.

[420seriouscat69]

Hard to die when you're pinned up in your house 24/7/365, jobless, getting lectured by coronabros on the reg.

[Phil Titola]

Cool reopening data by state

https://projects.propublica.org/reopening-america/

[DQ12]

Have we looked at overall death numbers during this time vs last year? Are we down overall? I wouldn't be surprised.

Good luck finding reliable, up-to-date nationwide all cause mortality.  It's a pain in the ass, but from what I've seen, we're not down.

What is interesting is that it appears that (at least recently, to the extent the graphs in the below linked article are reliable), in states like NY, the excess mortality figure is less than the reported covid death figure, which would suggest any one or a combination of (1) fewer people are dying from other causes; (2) covid deaths are being overcounted; (3) people who otherwise would have been expected to die of something else are instead dying from covid. 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries

[steve dave]

Hard to die when you're pinned up in your house 24/7/365, jobless, getting lectured by coronabros on the reg.

yep. also transmission of all other communicable diseases should be way down.

[Dugout DickStone]

Have we looked at overall death numbers during this time vs last year? Are we down overall? I wouldn't be surprised.

I doubt it.  Clay Travis told me that domestic abuse and suicide numbers would out pace the normal average death tolls.  So I bet its way up.  I mean, that is what Clay Travis said.  many many times.

[star seed 7]

Coronabros will love this

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1262847962855747585

[Phil Titola]

Have we looked at overall death numbers during this time vs last year? Are we down overall? I wouldn't be surprised.

Higher
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard

[420seriouscat69]

Coronabros will love this

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1262847962855747585

Yeah, I was wondering about this. Just got off my weekly call and there's no way i'm coming back to work for the next two months. People are scared to go to the dentist right now, so "our" reopening is going slower than estimated. Might be time to actually start looking for a job, because this crap will end soon. Tragic! Anyone need a recruiter in this economy?

[Dugout DickStone]

Have we looked at overall death numbers during this time vs last year? Are we down overall? I wouldn't be surprised.

Higher
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm#dashboard

Clay was right

[michigancat]

What is interesting is that it appears that (at least recently, to the extent the graphs in the below linked article are reliable), in states like NY, the excess mortality figure is less than the reported covid death figure, which would suggest any one or a combination of (1) fewer people are dying from other causes; (2) covid deaths are being overcounted; (3) people who otherwise would have been expected to die of something else are instead dying from covid. 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries

your link doesn't say that



there's also these two links

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html

[DQ12]

What is interesting is that it appears that (at least recently, to the extent the graphs in the below linked article are reliable), in states like NY, the excess mortality figure is less than the reported covid death figure, which would suggest any one or a combination of (1) fewer people are dying from other causes; (2) covid deaths are being overcounted; (3) people who otherwise would have been expected to die of something else are instead dying from covid. 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries

your link doesn't say that



there's also these two links

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html

Yes it does.

https://imgur.com/a/z7YbiS2

[Rage Against the McKee]

Are you reading "expected" as "excess"? Otherwise, I have no idea what that graph is supposed to show.

[DQ12]

Are you reading "expected" as "excess"? Otherwise, I have no idea what that graph is supposed to show.

Covid causes is red.  Other cause is gray.  Where the bottom of red dips below dotted (expected), covid deaths exceed excess deaths.  It's also possible that all cause deaths take a long time to get reported.

Also, I've been having a hell of a time getting [img] to work with imgur lately.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oh, you mean the tail at the end? I see that now. I'm not sure how much I would read into non-COVID deaths being down over a 4 day period. It's a possible trend to watch, though.

[michigancat]

gotta keep scrolling!

NYC's analysis doesn't seem to match that but it does make sense that overall deaths from other diseases are down as a result of the lockdown.



https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e5.htm

[DQ12]

Oh, you mean the tail at the end? I see that now. I'm not sure how much I would read into non-COVID deaths being down over a 4 day period. It's a possible trend to watch, though.

That's fair, though it looks like the data points are taken from each week, so I don't think it's just a day to day thing -- so at least for the week ending in April 17, Covid deaths in NYC exceeded the excess deaths by about 600. 

Just thought it was interesting when looking at the graphs and tried to figure out how that could be the case, even in a small sample size.

[DQ12]

gotta keep scrolling!

NYC's analysis doesn't seem to match that but it does make sense that overall deaths from other diseases are down as a result of the lockdown.



https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e5.htm

Yeah I saw that a couple of days ago and couldn't reconcile it with the economist chart.  I wonder if they're using different expected death formulas which messes with the excess figures.