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He makes a great point about the economy and about everything people built for the last 20-30 years and how they’re about to lose it to a .05/1 percent death rate disease. I’m not a Q guy or a Dax guy, but how long are you willing to shutdown for, for a disease that’s killing people with weak immune systems (who are MAINLY suffering)?
Quote from: michigancat on May 13, 2020, 10:02:30 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on May 13, 2020, 09:46:57 PMQuote from: michigancat on May 13, 2020, 09:41:39 PMQuote from: sys on May 13, 2020, 08:36:00 PMtalking, shouting and singing.https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1260652736783069184makes sense that the clubs in Korea led to super-spreading. also another reason restaurants are more likely to cause transmission than grocery stores. I'm not talking to anyone at a grocery store if I can help it.Is dinner conversation that boisterous? Thinking its a lot closer to a grocery store risk than a club risk.obviously depends on the restaurant, but there's definitely more talking at restaurants than grocery stores. I mean the point is usually to talk while you eat.True. Guess I'm thinking overall risk profile with tables spread apart and I'm only with my group vs. passing dozens of mouth breathers at the grocery store makes it kind of closer together than when I think of being at Last Chance.
Quote from: Phil Titola on May 13, 2020, 09:46:57 PMQuote from: michigancat on May 13, 2020, 09:41:39 PMQuote from: sys on May 13, 2020, 08:36:00 PMtalking, shouting and singing.https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1260652736783069184makes sense that the clubs in Korea led to super-spreading. also another reason restaurants are more likely to cause transmission than grocery stores. I'm not talking to anyone at a grocery store if I can help it.Is dinner conversation that boisterous? Thinking its a lot closer to a grocery store risk than a club risk.obviously depends on the restaurant, but there's definitely more talking at restaurants than grocery stores. I mean the point is usually to talk while you eat.
Quote from: michigancat on May 13, 2020, 09:41:39 PMQuote from: sys on May 13, 2020, 08:36:00 PMtalking, shouting and singing.https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1260652736783069184makes sense that the clubs in Korea led to super-spreading. also another reason restaurants are more likely to cause transmission than grocery stores. I'm not talking to anyone at a grocery store if I can help it.Is dinner conversation that boisterous? Thinking its a lot closer to a grocery store risk than a club risk.
Quote from: sys on May 13, 2020, 08:36:00 PMtalking, shouting and singing.https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1260652736783069184makes sense that the clubs in Korea led to super-spreading. also another reason restaurants are more likely to cause transmission than grocery stores. I'm not talking to anyone at a grocery store if I can help it.
talking, shouting and singing.https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1260652736783069184
Quote from: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2020, 10:22:26 PMHe makes a great point about the economy and about everything people built for the last 20-30 years and how they’re about to lose it to a .05/1 percent death rate disease. I’m not a Q guy or a Dax guy, but how long are you willing to shutdown for, for a disease that’s killing people with weak immune systems (who are MAINLY suffering)?wacky, for your own mental well being I'd suggest you mute portney. this is true in pandemic season but also in general.https://twitter.com/aud_bowler/status/1260673897009160194
Quote from: Phil Titola on May 13, 2020, 10:20:39 PMQuote from: michigancat on May 13, 2020, 10:02:30 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on May 13, 2020, 09:46:57 PMQuote from: michigancat on May 13, 2020, 09:41:39 PMQuote from: sys on May 13, 2020, 08:36:00 PMtalking, shouting and singing.https://twitter.com/carlzimmer/status/1260652736783069184makes sense that the clubs in Korea led to super-spreading. also another reason restaurants are more likely to cause transmission than grocery stores. I'm not talking to anyone at a grocery store if I can help it.Is dinner conversation that boisterous? Thinking its a lot closer to a grocery store risk than a club risk.obviously depends on the restaurant, but there's definitely more talking at restaurants than grocery stores. I mean the point is usually to talk while you eat.True. Guess I'm thinking overall risk profile with tables spread apart and I'm only with my group vs. passing dozens of mouth breathers at the grocery store makes it kind of closer together than when I think of being at Last Chance.Walking past a mouth breather infected with coronavirus is much less likely to get you sick than sitting 6 feet away from one for a whole hour is.
The evidence supporting mask use is rolling in on a country-by-country level at this point.Unfortunately we have a contingent extolling one false narrative after another in the United States.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2020, 09:31:03 AMThe evidence supporting mask use is rolling in on a country-by-country level at this point.Unfortunately we have a contingent extolling one false narrative after another in the United States.you can just say the President, it's okay. Lead by example they say.
re: my last post, fantastic breakdown of a lot of different spreading event dynamics.https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1257392347010215947and this study in the Lancet regarding 350 contacts to the first known person to person spread in the UShttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30607-3/fulltext
Quote from: Phil Titola on May 14, 2020, 09:31:39 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2020, 09:31:03 AMThe evidence supporting mask use is rolling in on a country-by-country level at this point.Unfortunately we have a contingent extolling one false narrative after another in the United States.you can just say the President, it's okay. Lead by example they say.Well, one thing for sure, we can always count on you to inject politics. I'm surprised you're even posting, figured you'd be rubbing one out while watching Bright's #FearPorn hour.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coronavirus-test-shortages-trigger-a-new-strategy-group-screening2/This sounds nice.
Quote from: memphis on May 14, 2020, 09:39:39 AMhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coronavirus-test-shortages-trigger-a-new-strategy-group-screening2/This sounds nice.This is interesting.And in the proud tradition of Phil Titola, I'll gladly get political. This article is indicative of how much bullshit the narrative that Barry Obama handed Trump a "playbook" on Pandemic's. He handed Trump a White Paper backed by a bunch of people talking about things, but not doing much acting on things. I'm sure the conference locations and expense reports were fantastic, though.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-pandemic-playbook/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2020, 09:44:49 AMQuote from: memphis on May 14, 2020, 09:39:39 AMhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coronavirus-test-shortages-trigger-a-new-strategy-group-screening2/This sounds nice.This is interesting.And in the proud tradition of Phil Titola, I'll gladly get political. This article is indicative of how much bullshit the narrative that Barry Obama handed Trump a "playbook" on Pandemic's. He handed Trump a White Paper backed by a bunch of people talking about things, but not doing much acting on things. I'm sure the conference locations and expense reports were fantastic, though.You continue to be wrong about this and here is the playbook. Just open it up and see that it's not what you describe. You don't have to admit it, just stop looking so dumb. Note: Nobody is "talking about things", it literally talks about how to act on things.https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf
Quote from: Phil Titola on May 14, 2020, 09:47:44 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2020, 09:44:49 AMQuote from: memphis on May 14, 2020, 09:39:39 AMhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coronavirus-test-shortages-trigger-a-new-strategy-group-screening2/This sounds nice.This is interesting.And in the proud tradition of Phil Titola, I'll gladly get political. This article is indicative of how much bullshit the narrative that Barry Obama handed Trump a "playbook" on Pandemic's. He handed Trump a White Paper backed by a bunch of people talking about things, but not doing much acting on things. I'm sure the conference locations and expense reports were fantastic, though.You continue to be wrong about this and here is the playbook. Just open it up and see that it's not what you describe. You don't have to admit it, just stop looking so dumb. Note: Nobody is "talking about things", it literally talks about how to act on things.https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdfYou can stop the charade that a document actually accomplishes anything. That's literally nothing but pages of bullet points that can be found on government documents created by working groups by the tens of thousands every year. It literally accomplishes nothing that matters, but makes everyone feel better about themselves. Was there any movement what-so-ever in reducing the ridiculous FDA bureaucracy on to many things to even get into here? Clearly not.Was there any attempt to re-domesticate and ramp up production of vital items and materials needed to respond to a world wide pandemic? Clearly not.Was there any attempt to de-couple strategically important pharmaceutical items and domesticate them in the United States? Clearly not.
in the end, EMAW will always win.