CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[star seed 7]

I thought the survival rate on a vent was lower than that, but maybe I'm thinking of something. I remember an er doctor on surly posted a bunch of medical info crap he's learned treating patients and that after a week on a vent the survival rate is nominal and basically just taking up equipment.

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1245317642560430081

 

better than a trashbag (which has happened)

better or exactly the same with pre cut holes.

the pre cut holes are better!

[XocolateThundarr]

whoa!  this is awesome, other than it might already be too late and also probably business owners don't know about it.  hopefully they do the same for larger businesses too.

https://twitter.com/whinecough/status/1245155798713597952

Should be bigger news if it's what the guy described

I applied for this last night and am looking into the payroll protection component of it as well. Should be up and running on Friday.

[Dugout DickStone]

Yeah. WHO the eff cares?

MAGAs who get boners over lady gaga

I don't know or hang out with any MAGAs, but from what I gather they ain't too fond of satan worshiping pop stars. 

MAGAs hate her but talk about her non-stop 24/7.  She is like AOC

[treysolid]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1245317642560430081

 

better than a trashbag (which has happened)

better or exactly the same with pre cut holes.

the pre cut holes are better!

Let's take into account that's an OGBYN, which *could* mean that better quality gear is being prioritized to doctors and nurses dealing directly with COVID-19 patients. Obviously tho, you'd like to have suitable PPE for every person who works in the hospital.

[Spracne]

i've been looking for that data point.  it's hard to find.  i interact with a person on twitter who is convinced that all the emphasis on ventilators is misplaced because those people are all gonna die anyways, they just die slower with a ventilator.

20% is a little lower than i'd guess for the global recovery rate for intubated patients, but it does seem like if they put you on a ventilator, that's really bad news.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8404197

depends a lot on the patient but yeah that 20% number seems really low

If you have to go on a ventilator, things are grim. Given that the worst patients seem to develop ARDS as a result of the virus, that's a bad combination.

[Phil Titola]

Guess that's why we don't have a lot of ventilators in the US hospital supplies if they only have a 20% success rate.  Woof.

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1245317642560430081

 

better than a trashbag (which has happened)

better or exactly the same with pre cut holes.

the pre cut holes are better!

Let's take into account that's an OGBYN, which *could* mean that better quality gear is being prioritized to doctors and nurses dealing directly with COVID-19 patients. Obviously tho, you'd like to have suitable PPE for every person who works in the hospital.

I'm just going to say what we're all thinking. Once she's up there in the stirrups the OB better squat down like a catcher with that yankees poncho on.

[Spracne]

And if you have to go on an ECMO machine as a result of this, your lungs are probably permanently mumped and u gonna die.

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1245317642560430081

 

better than a trashbag (which has happened)

better or exactly the same with pre cut holes.

the pre cut holes are better!

Let's take into account that's an OGBYN, which *could* mean that better quality gear is being prioritized to doctors and nurses dealing directly with COVID-19 patients. Obviously tho, you'd like to have suitable PPE for every person who works in the hospital.

There are definitely nurses treating covid patients in trash bags instead of proper gowns in the US right now

[Dugout DickStone]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1245317642560430081

 

better than a trashbag (which has happened)

better or exactly the same with pre cut holes.

the pre cut holes are better!

Let's take into account that's an OGBYN, which *could* mean that better quality gear is being prioritized to doctors and nurses dealing directly with COVID-19 patients. Obviously tho, you'd like to have suitable PPE for every person who works in the hospital.

I'm just going to say what we're all thinking. Once she's up there in the stirrups the OB better squat down like a catcher with that yankees poncho on.

Big oppy for the Mets to give back too

[Dugout DickStone]

Where do I get odds on Trump declaring this is china's fault and therefore we don't owe them any $$?

[catastrophe]

Guess that's why we don't have a lot of ventilators in the US hospital supplies if they only have a 20% success rate.  Woof.

I think it’s fair to say COVID-19 can be quite a bit worse than other things you might need a ventilator for.

[star seed 7]

https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1245317642560430081

 

better than a trashbag (which has happened)

better or exactly the same with pre cut holes.

the pre cut holes are better!

Let's take into account that's an OGBYN, which *could* mean that better quality gear is being prioritized to doctors and nurses dealing directly with COVID-19 patients. Obviously tho, you'd like to have suitable PPE for every person who works in the hospital.

Saw a meme the other day with a monkey dressed up like a doctor and the text said "stay at home unless you want to be intubated by an obgyn"

[Rage Against the McKee]

Guess that's why we don't have a lot of ventilators in the US hospital supplies if they only have a 20% success rate.  Woof.

I think it’s fair to say COVID-19 can be quite a bit worse than other things you might need a ventilator for.

I'm not sure that's true. Just about anything you would need a ventilator for is very serious.

[steve dave]

terrifying

https://twitter.com/WABirdthistle/status/1241449677540728839

good news!

https://twitter.com/DavidLat/status/1245419225721733122

[Bqqkie Pimp]

 

Where do I get odds on Trump declaring this is china's fault and therefore we don't owe them any $$?

Lemme know if you find a book taking action on that...

I'd like to build a 3T parlay with China, Gates and that Harvard professor.

[sys]

probably not going to stay a rich man's flu.

https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1245411954048618496

[michigancat]

More on the beauty of the free market in a pandemic. It's encouraging that smaller organizations can pool resources to compete with larger ones, but it seems pretty clear our federal government is shitting the bed

So organizers from the group, whose member organizations include religious congregations, unions, schools, community health centers, and other civic institutions, began to investigate whether they might be able to arrange a purchase of some of the supplies themselves — and quickly found themselves in what has become the “Wild West” global market of medical supplies. Among the suppliers they identified was a Canadian distributor who claimed last week to have millions of N95 masks, but demanded a minimum purchase of 20 million.

Within hours of the distributor’s demand, the group had assembled a consortium of 19 different entities in need of the masks, including two major hospital chains, one city health department in Colorado, six county governments in three states, and one governor’s office. Though several of the buyers were also hoping to purchase gowns, gloves, ventilators, and other supplies, they were pooling resources to be able to put in the minimum order of 3M’s 1860 N95 mask, which protects health care workers against airborne particles and is “resistant to splash and spatter of blood and other infectious materials.”

Although the 1860 N95 masks should cost $1.27 each, according to a price list 3M issued yesterday, the Canadian dealer was charging more than $7 per mask. But the jacked-up price isn’t what killed the deal. Even the major hospital chains were desperate enough to spend the money. Instead, the group’s purchase began to fall apart when the dealer said that the Canadian military had seized 10 million of the masks and then insisted that the group not only commit to buying the remaining 20 million masks but also to five additional monthly purchases of 20 million masks, totaling $140 million.

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-3m-n95-masks-price-gouging/


another one

Remington received text updates from his network about ever-changing quantities of masks in Houston, New Jersey, Miami, Los Angeles and other U.S. cities, along with cities in Canada and the UK. I was astounded by the numbers of masks at these locations. At one point he received an update that 43 million masks were available in New Jersey, in the same time-frame that federal and state leaders were saying in press conferences that they were “scouring the globe” for masks. But the masks in New Jersey, along with many million more, didn’t go to any domestic buyer. Instead, according to the broker, they were all purchased by foreign buyers.

“Most of the masks are leaving the country,” he told me.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2020/03/30/i-spent-a-day-in-the-coronavirus-driven-feeding-frenzy-of-n95-mask-sellers-and-buyers-and-this-is-what-i-learned/#6a95653c56d4

[sys]

https://twitter.com/web/status/1245176316296560641

[catastrophe]

Guess that's why we don't have a lot of ventilators in the US hospital supplies if they only have a 20% success rate.  Woof.

I think it’s fair to say COVID-19 can be quite a bit worse than other things you might need a ventilator for.

I'm not sure that's true. Just about anything you would need a ventilator for is very serious.

Serious, sure. But I’d put something like ARDS a little further down the spectrum than sleep apnea.

[star seed 7]

Sys, that's something I was just thinking about earlier today as I drove past an engineering firm with an empty parking lot, and it made me think of all the factory, warehouse, and construction workers that are still going to work. Despite best practices, they are still likely exposed to numerous other people every day. The work from home privilege is certainly an interesting class divide.

[Dugout DickStone]

Where do I get odds on Trump declaring this is china's fault and therefore we don't owe them any $$?

Lemme know if you find a book taking action on that...

I'd like to build a 3T parlay with China, Gates and that Harvard professor.

googles "book that takes bets from total nitiwits"

No luck bud.

[sys]

i've been working a little, but it's at a very low key site with only like 5 workers, so it's still pretty socially distant.  i'm really interested to see if, when i'm next scheduled at a big job site, they still do the morning safety sign in where everyone passes around the same pen and clipboard.

[sys]

i'd be surprised if 10% of small business owners are aware of this.

https://twitter.com/MichaelRStrain/status/1245393953723219969