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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4400 on: April 16, 2020, 12:22:13 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4401 on: April 16, 2020, 12:28:24 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

It's probably just a back lash at the Mega Useful Idiot talking points which may as well have been written by the Chinese Communist Party Propaganda Ministry.   

No doubt President Xi has taken notes from Vlad Putin at how easily Useful Idiot Nation in the United States can be employed and deployed to carry forward the desired agenda and achieve the desired outcomes.


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4402 on: April 16, 2020, 12:30:23 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4403 on: April 16, 2020, 12:32:37 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.




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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4404 on: April 16, 2020, 12:33:31 PM »
the flu is a virus (or viruses) that we will probably live with forever. But it's at a stable state because of vaccines and hospital capacities built around it being around forever. same thing can happen with covid

that's true, that's just not how I was reading what I responded to.  I took it as way bigger "deal with for the rest of our lifvs" as I'd consider the flu vaccine effective but it does kill a lot a year.

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« Reply #4405 on: April 16, 2020, 12:35:48 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism? 

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4406 on: April 16, 2020, 12:36:27 PM »
https://www.france24.com/en/20200416-grave-concerns-about-covid-19-immunity-passports

Anxious about both the unfolding economic disaster and the risk of Covid-19 resurging if lockdowns are reversed prematurely, some officials in hard-hit countries have suggested that a system of immunity passports could be a route out of the coronavirus crisis – for some at least. The idea is that people who have already had the disease and thereby gained immunity could be given permits to live their lives mostly like they did before the pandemic.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4407 on: April 16, 2020, 12:51:31 PM »
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“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Xi broke the rim and glass fell all over our president.  Is it an intentional strategy to appear impotent to engender him with the voting bases of the south?  They love losing and being beta

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4408 on: April 16, 2020, 12:54:50 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing? 


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4409 on: April 16, 2020, 01:01:46 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Let's assume they screwed up (they likely did) and then played Trump like a total and complete rube (he is) then what? 

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4410 on: April 16, 2020, 01:03:10 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?

Thanks for responding, Phil.

Sadly, Useful Idiot Nation does an excellent job of parroting Chinese Propaganda that usually comes from media sources with vast financial interests in China.   Comcast and Bloomberg are just two examples.

What Useful Idiot Nation always fails to understand is that the Chinese Communist Party hasn't really hidden the fact that they plan on dominating the world, and plan on doing so within the next 5 to 10 years by pretty much any means possible.   China 2025, which seeks to dominate the whole of global technology manufacturing,  and Belt and Road are just two examples.   Strategic Control of the South China Sea would be the 3rd example.   China's geo-strategic acquisition strategy would be a 4th example;  Australia (for example), might as well be called China-South, look at a map of strategic Australian ports (massive Chinese investment and acquisition) and think for a moment, but I digress.  '

The counter argument to this would be to ask, isn't the United States attempting to do the same thing?   Certainly, and in many cases it's been a disaster, look no further than what the previous two administrations have done in the Middle East, what a cluster eff, huh?  (thankfully we have a president who doesn't believe in all that regime change BS at the level the 2 previous guys).    Given that the United States has pulled back into trying the dominate the world from an economic perspective with this administration, there was most certainly hope that it would be trade and not burning down countries and walking away, would be the new course.    The quandary is that a post recession United States economic powerhouse was/is/will be a direct threat to Chinese initiatives and ambition. 

One could very easily argue that President Xi and the party allowed this virus to go global after realizing that there was nothing they could do to contain it.  Knowing full well that they would and are deploying draconian measure to control, while the rest of the industrialized world still has a smidge of humanity and human rights coursing through their collective veins.     

The counter argument to this would be that this virus would decimate the economies that China depends on, a valid point.   However one school believes that the Communist Chinese regime thought their system would emerge through the viral worm hole better positioned to take advantage of a economically weakened (G20) world and thus be able to accelerate their two primary global initiatives.   

Phil, it's been a pleasure, any questions?


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4411 on: April 16, 2020, 01:03:35 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Let's assume they screwed up (they likely did) and then played Trump like a total and complete rube (he is) then what?
I don't know.  There's a referendum on Trump in 7 months.  With respect to China, is your answer "do nothing"?


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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4412 on: April 16, 2020, 01:06:35 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Let's assume they screwed up (they likely did) and then played Trump like a total and complete rube (he is) then what?
I don't know.  Is your answer "do nothing"?

I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4413 on: April 16, 2020, 01:08:45 PM »
I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.
I agree that the origin isn't a priority right now.  All I'm saying is that I think the world eventually deserves an answer as to how this episode actually began. 


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« Reply #4414 on: April 16, 2020, 01:11:38 PM »
I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.
I agree that the origin isn't a priority right now.  All I'm saying is that I think the world eventually deserves an answer as to how this episode actually began. 

ok

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4415 on: April 16, 2020, 01:12:09 PM »
dentistry seems like one of those services people are likely to avoid for a while.
My daughter is in braces and was due for an adjustment right after shelter in place started. Not sure what we're gonna do because the office didn't return our calls. I might try again since it's sorta settled down.

I have a nephew who lost a tooth 2 weeks ago and can't get it fixed.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4416 on: April 16, 2020, 01:19:49 PM »
belgium is quietly getting its ass kicked on a per capita basis.  3rd most per capita deaths after san marino and andorra.  almost 5k total deaths.
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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4417 on: April 16, 2020, 01:23:29 PM »
I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.
I agree that the origin isn't a priority right now.  All I'm saying is that I think the world eventually deserves an answer as to how this episode actually began. 

ok

I'll add I'm way more interested in what Trump knew and did/didn't do than China. I'll assume China mumped up and lied but I'm not sure what we can effectively do about it. With Trump we can possibly throw him in prison and maybe come up with a plan for future pandemics response. It's crazy how people just kinda forgot this:

https://twitter.com/bill_maxwell_/status/1238250928605708288?s=21


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This is an impeachable offense.  Not that it matters of course..........
He should be in prison if there's any way to prove that, impeachment is too light

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4418 on: April 16, 2020, 01:39:05 PM »
EU/EEA/UK Cases as of today per the ECDC:

Total Cases detected during Covid-19 Pandemic:  852,174   Mortality:  85,926  Mortality Rate Per Infected:  10%


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« Reply #4419 on: April 16, 2020, 01:43:03 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Sure.  Want to kick them off the planet or something?  How about we figure out our own country's eff up while we are at it?   Since we were you know told about it in January and sat on our thumbs laughing about it for a month at pep rallies?

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4420 on: April 16, 2020, 01:44:47 PM »
I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.
I agree that the origin isn't a priority right now.  All I'm saying is that I think the world eventually deserves an answer as to how this episode actually began.

We all agree then.  Everybody was talking about right now.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4421 on: April 16, 2020, 01:46:29 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Sure.  Want to kick them off the planet or something?  How about we figure out our own country's eff up while we are at it?   Since we were you know told about it in January and sat on our thumbs laughing about it for a month at pep rallies?

Phil, perfectly fine to want to blame Trump.   

But you need to also invoke numerous other Useful Idiot leaders who played it down and then had a total meltdown about the travel ban(s), multiple POS LibDerp Leaders by word and action told people to ignore Trump and gather in large numbers and party.

You also know full well that had Trump started the FearPorn in January Useful Idiot Nation would have immediately defaulted to Trump trying to distract from impeachment.    Useful Idiot Nation will never own it, tho.




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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4422 on: April 16, 2020, 01:49:25 PM »
I think that's the answer right now. Anyone who could intelligently investigate Chinese mistakes leading to virus spread should probably be put to use investigating/understanding/coming up with solutions for current domestic virus spread.
I agree that the origin isn't a priority right now.  All I'm saying is that I think the world eventually deserves an answer as to how this episode actually began.

It came from china, who lied their asses off and dunked on our President.  They are very culpable.  We (the world) should do what we can to punish them.

now what?

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« Reply #4423 on: April 16, 2020, 01:50:39 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Sure.  Want to kick them off the planet or something?  How about we figure out our own country's eff up while we are at it?   Since we were you know told about it in January and sat on our thumbs laughing about it for a month at pep rallies?


You also know full well that had Trump started the FearPorn in January Useful Idiot Nation would have immediately defaulted to Trump trying to distract from impeachment.    Useful Idiot Nation will never own it, tho.

He would have been right to do so with the information he had and they would have been on the wrong side.  Instead he LOL'd around at his pep rallies and did get this country prepared for this.  So you want people to own something that never happened?  Goodness Dax.  Take ownership of what actually DID and IS happening.

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Re: Thanks China (and Canada) . . . Topic: CoronaVirus!
« Reply #4424 on: April 16, 2020, 01:54:54 PM »
So is the new incel talking point to blame this wholly on china?  and if so, to what end?  Be super war thirsty and fight them?  Cancel our debt?

just spitballing but it seems to be the super old/impotent and stupid position now.  I bet it is widely held in the poorest/fattest and dumbest states.

yeah trying to nail down China so we have a fall guy doesn't seem like a productive use of resources

cRusty, please document the resources that will be expanded, and while you're at it, please pass me another defective Chinese produced mask.

The president and secretary of state are usually valuable resources but I get your point given our current people in those positions.

Firing up people to blame China to what end as was asked earlier?  Nationalism?
If a Chinese fuckup led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the globe, isn't that worth at least knowing?

Sure.  Want to kick them off the planet or something?  How about we figure out our own country's eff up while we are at it?   Since we were you know told about it in January and sat on our thumbs laughing about it for a month at pep rallies?


You also know full well that had Trump started the FearPorn in January Useful Idiot Nation would have immediately defaulted to Trump trying to distract from impeachment.    Useful Idiot Nation will never own it, tho.

He would have been right to do so with the information he had and they would have been on the wrong side.  Instead he LOL'd around at his pep rallies and did get this country prepared for this.  So you want people to own something that never happened?  Goodness Dax.  Take ownership of what actually DID and IS happening.

Geezus, you're such a hyper partisan fuckstick.   The de facto leader of Useful Idiot Nation tore up the SOU which brought up Covid-19 and told her entire constituency to not pay any attention to any of it.   She then literally told people to go gather in large groups and ignore pretty much everything in terms of what NOT to do relative to the spread of this virus.   The Mayor of the largest city in the country and his health commissioner did the exact same thing.