CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[michigancat]

this is a good question, imo.

https://twitter.com/tylercowen/status/1473108788026744841

The answer is to go about your life and try not to feel guilty if you infect and kill an unvaccinated person

[michigancat]

But you might also need updated guidance for breakthrough cases

[steve dave]

I know, but I was full fledged symptomatic. Can I still not spread it with fever and chills possibly? I’m not questioning the accuracy, just seems weird to my non sciencey brain.

seems weird to me too.  dunno.

https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1472024457640394756

Very interesting. Thanks sys.

[steve dave]

If anyone paid any attention to what the NFLPA is trying to do, you'd already know what sysbot posted.

I have not been following that

[Cire]

There are people paying attention to what the nflpa is doing?


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[steve dave]

Though these people say closer to 5 if a rapid tests says negative and you are fully vaxxed

https://www.fastcompany.com/90707869/how-long-to-isolate-covid-vaccinated-booster?partner=feedburner&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feedburner+fastcompany&utm_content=feedburner

I'm going to test at the 5 day mark but I'm not holding my breath for a neg 

But what if someone still tests positive after 10 days? This is very common. People who have tested positive for COVID-19 are very likely to continue to test positive after 10 days. But they are not contagious.

People who have tested positive or who have been sick with COVID-19 often continue to test positive for up to three months. Even after your immune system neutralizes a virus (COVID-19 or almost any other virus), bits and pieces of the virus’s genetic material remain in your body — like DNA evidence left at a crime scene. These little viral remnants degrade over time. They can’t harm you, and they can’t infect anyone else, but they can cause you to continue to test positive.

[nicname]

this is a good question, imo.

https://twitter.com/tylercowen/status/1473108788026744841

The answer is to go about your life and try not to feel guilty if you infect and kill an unvaccinated person

Yes.


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[wetwillie]

Though these people say closer to 5 if a rapid tests says negative and you are fully vaxxed

https://www.fastcompany.com/90707869/how-long-to-isolate-covid-vaccinated-booster?partner=feedburner&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feedburner+fastcompany&utm_content=feedburner

I'm going to test at the 5 day mark but I'm not holding my breath for a neg 

But what if someone still tests positive after 10 days? This is very common. People who have tested positive for COVID-19 are very likely to continue to test positive after 10 days. But they are not contagious.

People who have tested positive or who have been sick with COVID-19 often continue to test positive for up to three months. Even after your immune system neutralizes a virus (COVID-19 or almost any other virus), bits and pieces of the virus’s genetic material remain in your body — like DNA evidence left at a crime scene. These little viral remnants degrade over time. They can’t harm you, and they can’t infect anyone else, but they can cause you to continue to test positive.

I bet that booster mRNA is whipping its ass right now.  I tested negative on day 9 but I felt normal again after about day 5 so you will probably be close.

[sonofdaxjones]

Though these people say closer to 5 if a rapid tests says negative and you are fully vaxxed

https://www.fastcompany.com/90707869/how-long-to-isolate-covid-vaccinated-booster?partner=feedburner&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feedburner+fastcompany&utm_content=feedburner

I'm going to test at the 5 day mark but I'm not holding my breath for a neg 

But what if someone still tests positive after 10 days? This is very common. People who have tested positive for COVID-19 are very likely to continue to test positive after 10 days. But they are not contagious.

People who have tested positive or who have been sick with COVID-19 often continue to test positive for up to three months. Even after your immune system neutralizes a virus (COVID-19 or almost any other virus), bits and pieces of the virus’s genetic material remain in your body — like DNA evidence left at a crime scene. These little viral remnants degrade over time. They can’t harm you, and they can’t infect anyone else, but they can cause you to continue to test positive.

Welcome to PCR cyclic testing can find anything if you want it to 101. 

One of the reasons why 35 plus cycle testing was so ridiculous. 

[steve dave]

yeah, sys's chart on the antigen tests being the best has me staying somewhat confident I'll pass.

[Phil Titola]

sounds like Biden read my post and is now going to offer up free tests to be sent to homes.  Of course my idea of drop shipping every address tests is better.

[Trim]

After reminding my kc friend that he'd need to show his 'chip card ever-y-where here and him not knowing where his is, he went to his installer at cvs before coming and they gave him a blank one to fill out along with some extras. 

[Phil Titola]

After reminding my kc friend that he'd need to show his 'chip card ever-y-where here and him not knowing where his is, he went to his installer at cvs before coming and they gave him a blank one to fill out along with some extras. 

New Orleans has this rule and I was maybe asked at 10% of the places.

[WillieWatanabe]

I can't believe I haven't gotten this thing yet. Everyone in my household has had it except me and my pops.

Then 11-yo Nicname Jr (unvaxxed) got it and had mild symptoms for several days in October.
Then 6-month old Baby Nicname got it earlier this month, which was quite scary, but pulled thru like a champ. Didn't even lose weight.
Mrs. Nicname (vaxxed) got it from Baby Nicname, which we knew would happen, and pulled thru like a total boss. Had mild symptoms for 2-3 days.

I can count at least two occasions since the whole thing began where I had what I thought were mild symptoms or lack of sleep/dehydration. One of these occurrences was when Nicname Jr had it; negative test. One was in March of 2020 I think. Very early on. Didn't get tested, but was better after an evening of worry.

My dad has also managed to avoid it, while begrudgingly taking as little precaution as possible. This includes getting vaxxed at much convincing from me. He's also a huge retardo-con/evangelical type, who gets his news from Facebook and other very reliable sources.

My mom and her husband (he's hardcore MAGA, she does whatever he does), both got it last thanksgiving time and were unvaxxed (still are), and beat it like champs. Lost taste and smell for a bit.

My brother's entire family has avoided it. They're a bizarre case of anti-covid vaxxers, one being an RN and the other being a well-respected (former) Nursing Home Administrator. They do/did all the non-vax precautions to the t. I don't get it.

No one's probably interested in reading all this but I figured I'd share.

Mods: move to the do you know anyone with covid thread if necessary.

Nicname would you be willing to share the progression of COVID that your 6 month old experienced?  I have a 5 month old that im preparing to have every virus under the sun that babies get including covid.

We suspected he might have been infected before he ever showed any symptoms, because his teenage cousin had been watching him two days prior, and then tested positive the next day. A day later he became increasingly fussy, and Mrs Nicname took him to get tested. By the end of that day he'd developed a slight cough. He developed a decent fever for a day or two early on as well. We got the positive test result the following morning, I believe.

The doctor told us all we could really do is keep him hydrated, breast feed him a lot (wife is vaxxed, so maybe antibodies?), and monitor his breathing, dry diapers, etc. They said to bring him in if things got worse/scary.

Over the next couple of days his cough got progressively more intense, then he started wheezing, and had a lot of mucous buildup in his nose/throat.  At one point she was trying to breast feed him and the mucous buildup was so bad he started choking. She tells me she turned him upside-down and performed some type of move that got him to stop choking.

I should add he was in relatively good spirits most of the time during the day when not coughing. Still, that was enough and we took him in the next day. I was worried before, but now scared shitless, truly trying to prepare myself for the fact he might not be around in a week or two.

Luckily the testing and hospital visit were encouraging. His oxygen level was keeping at 98% and they told us the wheezing and mucous issues were upper-respiratory, which is a big deal apparently.

After the hospital his cough slowly weakened, the wheezing went away and he pretty quickly got back to normal. He was off quarantine on schedule 10-days after diagnosis.

I'm very proud of him.

Thanks for sharing.
Our 13 month old has had some sort of runny nose, cough, or ear infection for like 2 months now. Just when he starts getting better, it starts up again. V frustrating. We all 3 got tested somewhere towards the middle of the sickness and we all came back negative. He started getting a v slight fever yesterday and now i'm getting worried again.

[sonofdaxjones]

There are people paying attention to what the nflpa is doing?


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I know you're very dim, but relative to the NFL/NFLPA is going with less testing and less restrictions on fully vaccinated personnel, instead focusing on those presenting actual symptoms. 

[sonofdaxjones]

For the Vax'd, Omicron is a cold, not trying to minimize it, but in all matter of speaking it's a cold.

Cold's can kill people if they don't care of themselves or have underlying conditions.   But for the otherwise relatively healthy who have a clue, who stay at home for a few days, it's a cold, still sucks, but then it's over. 

South Africa (now at the height of summer) is still running at 80-90% under their all time mortality rate, and their infections are decreasing, despite still only being at 33% vax rate.   A this time a SA gov't commission is saying the gov't needs to quit expanding massive resources on Omicron, it's a waste of time, human resources and money.

[sys]

The answer is to go about your life and try not to feel guilty if you infect and kill an unvaccinated person

if only a trusted source, like the white house, would give us that direction.

[Phil Titola]

For the Vax'd, Omicron is a cold, not trying to minimize it, but in all matter of speaking it's a cold.

Cold's can kill people if they don't care of themselves or have underlying conditions.   But for the otherwise relatively healthy who have a clue, who stay at home for a few days, it's a cold, still sucks, but then it's over. 

South Africa (now at the height of summer) is still running at 80-90% under their all time mortality rate, and their infections are decreasing, despite still only being at 33% vax rate.   A this time a SA gov't commission is saying the gov't needs to quit expanding massive resources on Omicron, it's a waste of time, human resources and money.

seems a bit premature to come to this conclusion but hope this is accurate.

[wiley]

I can't believe I haven't gotten this thing yet. Everyone in my household has had it except me and my pops.

Then 11-yo Nicname Jr (unvaxxed) got it and had mild symptoms for several days in October.
Then 6-month old Baby Nicname got it earlier this month, which was quite scary, but pulled thru like a champ. Didn't even lose weight.
Mrs. Nicname (vaxxed) got it from Baby Nicname, which we knew would happen, and pulled thru like a total boss. Had mild symptoms for 2-3 days.

I can count at least two occasions since the whole thing began where I had what I thought were mild symptoms or lack of sleep/dehydration. One of these occurrences was when Nicname Jr had it; negative test. One was in March of 2020 I think. Very early on. Didn't get tested, but was better after an evening of worry.

My dad has also managed to avoid it, while begrudgingly taking as little precaution as possible. This includes getting vaxxed at much convincing from me. He's also a huge retardo-con/evangelical type, who gets his news from Facebook and other very reliable sources.

My mom and her husband (he's hardcore MAGA, she does whatever he does), both got it last thanksgiving time and were unvaxxed (still are), and beat it like champs. Lost taste and smell for a bit.

My brother's entire family has avoided it. They're a bizarre case of anti-covid vaxxers, one being an RN and the other being a well-respected (former) Nursing Home Administrator. They do/did all the non-vax precautions to the t. I don't get it.

No one's probably interested in reading all this but I figured I'd share.

Mods: move to the do you know anyone with covid thread if necessary.

Nicname would you be willing to share the progression of COVID that your 6 month old experienced?  I have a 5 month old that im preparing to have every virus under the sun that babies get including covid.

We suspected he might have been infected before he ever showed any symptoms, because his teenage cousin had been watching him two days prior, and then tested positive the next day. A day later he became increasingly fussy, and Mrs Nicname took him to get tested. By the end of that day he'd developed a slight cough. He developed a decent fever for a day or two early on as well. We got the positive test result the following morning, I believe.

The doctor told us all we could really do is keep him hydrated, breast feed him a lot (wife is vaxxed, so maybe antibodies?), and monitor his breathing, dry diapers, etc. They said to bring him in if things got worse/scary.

Over the next couple of days his cough got progressively more intense, then he started wheezing, and had a lot of mucous buildup in his nose/throat.  At one point she was trying to breast feed him and the mucous buildup was so bad he started choking. She tells me she turned him upside-down and performed some type of move that got him to stop choking.

I should add he was in relatively good spirits most of the time during the day when not coughing. Still, that was enough and we took him in the next day. I was worried before, but now scared shitless, truly trying to prepare myself for the fact he might not be around in a week or two.

Luckily the testing and hospital visit were encouraging. His oxygen level was keeping at 98% and they told us the wheezing and mucous issues were upper-respiratory, which is a big deal apparently.

After the hospital his cough slowly weakened, the wheezing went away and he pretty quickly got back to normal. He was off quarantine on schedule 10-days after diagnosis.

I'm very proud of him.

Thanks for sharing.
Our 13 month old has had some sort of runny nose, cough, or ear infection for like 2 months now. Just when he starts getting better, it starts up again. V frustrating. We all 3 got tested somewhere towards the middle of the sickness and we all came back negative. He started getting a v slight fever yesterday and now i'm getting worried again.

Yeah, thanks for sharing.  Our oldest had pretty similar experience with RSV 2 years ago at the same age.  We have a 5 month old that has developed a runny nose but no fever or anything of that nature.  We’re doing the family test before Christmas to give ourselves peace of mind that we’re not having baby wiley be patient zero for an family xmas outbreak.

[steve dave]

The answer is to go about your life and try not to feel guilty if you infect and kill an unvaccinated person

if only a trusted source, like the white house, would give us that direction.

lmao

[Phil Titola]

For the Vax'd, Omicron is a cold, not trying to minimize it, but in all matter of speaking it's a cold.

Cold's can kill people if they don't care of themselves or have underlying conditions.   But for the otherwise relatively healthy who have a clue, who stay at home for a few days, it's a cold, still sucks, but then it's over. 

South Africa (now at the height of summer) is still running at 80-90% under their all time mortality rate, and their infections are decreasing, despite still only being at 33% vax rate.   A this time a SA gov't commission is saying the gov't needs to quit expanding massive resources on Omicron, it's a waste of time, human resources and money.

seems a bit premature to come to this conclusion but hope this is accurate.

UK study says no less severe than Delta 

https://news.yahoo.com/omicron-infections-appear-no-less-195632713.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMKAmxXoOlbyQkQstVf83unrWnnwa1qRppFPN8f9f3YJ5-cASs2oSK2smWUjnPCzRghhKflbRbCwYIEZL0xenkoPmzUaDJNt80OO_7ldwssAVvyc254HSHEJll_mYxwOcCqVvWNKae5y8NIIR8Xj2NA7QhN3tpji4KSU6hB327gG

[sonofdaxjones]

Parts of London are seeing positive test rates plummet.

South Africa at 1/10 the level of hospitalizations and deaths compared to their Delta Peak (keeping in mind seasonality and the fact that it's summer there).

What isn't discussed is testdemic, the psychological factor that drives people to get tested with every sniffle and sneeze as they read and watch the ominous warning of Omicron.  If people are getting PCR tested, the PCR test will likely find something even if the person has has no symptoms and is not contagious.

[Phil Titola]

Parts of London are seeing positive test rates plummet.

South Africa at 1/10 the level of hospitalizations and deaths compared to their Delta Peak (keeping in mind seasonality and the fact that it's summer there).

What isn't discussed is testdemic, the psychological factor that drives people to get tested with every sniffle and sneeze as they read and watch the ominous warning of Omicron.  If people are getting PCR tested, the PCR test will likely find something even if the person has has no symptoms and is not contagious.

Hard to blame the individual when every story and guidance says to get tested if you have any symptoms that mirror the common cold or allegies.

[michigancat]

Parts of London are seeing positive test rates plummet.

South Africa at 1/10 the level of hospitalizations and deaths compared to their Delta Peak (keeping in mind seasonality and the fact that it's summer there).

What isn't discussed is testdemic, the psychological factor that drives people to get tested with every sniffle and sneeze as they read and watch the ominous warning of Omicron.  If people are getting PCR tested, the PCR test will likely find something even if the person has has no symptoms and is not contagious.

Hard to blame the individual when every story and guidance says to get tested if you have any symptoms that mirror the common cold or allegies.

What's largely happening now is people are getting exposure notifications and therefore getting tested without symptoms because they want to make sure they are negative before they travel or go about their normal lives.

I forgot to mention that the schools here don't require any test or quarantine with asymptomatic vaccinated folks who have been exposed. Which night be pretty good guidance from some sort of larger authority.

[Phil Titola]

I've never gotten an exposure notification.  You talking like manually from a tracer or organization or one of those automated apps that don't exist in the midwest