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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12375 on: December 03, 2020, 10:42:39 PM »

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12376 on: December 03, 2020, 10:52:11 PM »
I love it

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12377 on: December 03, 2020, 10:55:52 PM »
I’m gonna keep a current copy of my ‘chip records literally on me at all times via tattoo.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12378 on: December 03, 2020, 11:24:35 PM »
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1334494592482283520

People are going to freak out.  :bwpopcorn:
Why? This isn't a new thing in the world.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12379 on: December 03, 2020, 11:27:50 PM »
Neither is partisanship, paranoia, or tribalism.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12380 on: December 03, 2020, 11:33:40 PM »
i may have missed it in the SF things thread, but London Breed is an incred mayor name

Yeah, great name, unfortunately she's a centrist cash and clout grabber, who will do nothing to fix the affordable housing issue in San Francisco. She'll get to continue to hang out with really rich democrats though who will prepare her for her next political opportunity. Her type bothers me 10x more than the Candace Owens types, just the ultimate opportunist sellout.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12381 on: December 03, 2020, 11:36:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1334494592482283520

People are going to freak out.  :bwpopcorn:

You know they have given people their vaccination records and when the next shot is due since at least the 70's right?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12382 on: December 03, 2020, 11:38:18 PM »
Neither is partisanship, paranoia, or tribalism.

Not the same, you don't have children. This is like thinking people will freak out over receiving an insurance card or a birth certificate. Sure, some may but people who are getting the shot will primarily be used to receiving shot records.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12383 on: December 03, 2020, 11:44:51 PM »
breed is the most pro-housing, pro-construction mayor sf has had in decades.  there may be fair criticisms of her mayorship, but holding her responsible for the city's lack of building isn't one.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #12384 on: December 04, 2020, 12:04:16 AM »
Breed gets flack for only focusing on market rate housing and cozying up to developers (like she was eating at French Laundry with, see thread)

https://twitter.com/mayavada/status/1334618327801425920

I really don't see anything significant happening with SF housing ever without some sort of federal intervention, it's just going to be a weird town for the uber rich and a few low-income subsidized folks. There will be politicians that will focus on just market rate or just subsidized with a few in between but no one really wants enough to make a real difference in affordability.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12385 on: December 04, 2020, 12:16:26 AM »
yeah, it seems pretty intractable, but people and businesses moving out might shake things up a little.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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« Reply #12387 on: December 04, 2020, 12:25:30 AM »
yeah, it seems pretty intractable, but people and businesses moving out might shake things up a little.
Maybe but it seems temporary. There are still an awful lot of high paying job listings out there.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12388 on: December 04, 2020, 12:29:18 AM »
Maybe but it seems temporary.

probably.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12389 on: December 04, 2020, 12:29:23 AM »
https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1334641685154902021
My theory about the reduced capacity doing less than closing at 10pm may have been right!

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12390 on: December 04, 2020, 12:36:32 AM »
Neither is partisanship, paranoia, or tribalism.

Not the same, you don't have children. This is like thinking people will freak out over receiving an insurance card or a birth certificate. Sure, some may but people who are getting the shot will primarily be used to receiving shot records.

Awfully presumptuous of you ...

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12391 on: December 04, 2020, 02:23:25 AM »
My theory about the reduced capacity doing less than closing at 10pm may have been right!

if just closing them is off the table, i think having a curfew probably is pretty good policy.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12392 on: December 04, 2020, 06:49:16 AM »
https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1334641685154902021
My theory about the reduced capacity doing less than closing at 10pm may have been right!
Weddings and funeral events are bars after 10pm environments and we know a lot of those events like that being superspreaders

These airlfow studies are very interesting but this is still only 3 infections and do we know with any certainly this is the situation these people were infected?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12393 on: December 04, 2020, 07:03:27 AM »
I read Korea so I’m confident it is accurate


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12394 on: December 04, 2020, 07:25:12 AM »
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1334494592482283520

People are going to freak out.  :bwpopcorn:

You know they have given people their vaccination records and when the next shot is due since at least the 70's right?

JUST LIKE THE NAZIS GAVE THE JEWS CARDS!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #12395 on: December 04, 2020, 07:38:10 AM »


https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1334641685154902021
My theory about the reduced capacity doing less than closing at 10pm may have been right!
Weddings and funeral events are bars after 10pm environments and we know a lot of those events like that being superspreaders

These airlfow studies are very interesting but this is still only 3 infections and do we know with any certainly this is the situation these people were infected?

Yes they know with certainty

https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1334681114544369664

And obviously weddings and bars are worse but the takeaway here is that aerosolized transmission can take place over much more than six feet distance and in a very short time with the right (or wrong) airflow situation.

We need our HVACats to weigh in here

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« Reply #12396 on: December 04, 2020, 07:52:01 AM »
Neither is partisanship, paranoia, or tribalism.

Not the same, you don't have children. This is like thinking people will freak out over receiving an insurance card or a birth certificate. Sure, some may but people who are getting the shot will primarily be used to receiving shot records.
I’m not saying it would be rational. And I don’t know how old your kids are, but I only understand the analogy from when I was a kid. Based on my experience as a proud vaxxer parent I’m not sure they really do the cards anymore.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12397 on: December 04, 2020, 07:57:12 AM »
In my opinion, that transmission is amplified with ductless products. It's essentially a recirc unit with a coil. Would like to know if they had outdoor air for dilution introduced in the ductless unit. Perhaps they have OA connected and thus only a few infections.

In US, code requires outdoor air in commercial buildings. We also tend to use central HVAC rather than ductless units. Should aid in dispersion/dilution in US. However, many restaurant/bar systems are so grossly oversized that outdoor air economizers are taken to zero percent because of comfort issues.

Still not ideal to be in a room with a bunch of loud talking and such.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12398 on: December 04, 2020, 08:03:04 AM »
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1334494592482283520

People are going to freak out.  :bwpopcorn:

You know they have given people their vaccination records and when the next shot is due since at least the 70's right?

Of course, but I've also seen a lot of MAGA folks refer to the vaccine as the mark of the beast and discussing how businesses are going to bar them from entry due to not having an ID confirming their vaccination.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #12399 on: December 04, 2020, 08:10:15 AM »
I wonder how that social security card is working for them.