Fire Chris Klieman

[nicname]

Those are not terrible numbers, honestly. Certainly better than what we're seeing right now.

the offense has been horrible because the QB has been horrible.  in the last two years, when skylar has been playing, the offense has been as good as any K-State offense since 2012 (at least based on PPD).

if the offense sucks next year without thompson, yeah, that's on Mess.  but i don't know how anyone can be so critical when his starting QB has been hurt in 11 of the last 15 games.  that's a product of shitty luck, not bad coordinating.

If only we had a serviceable backup.......

Will’s ppd probably looks pretty decent this year tbh.

[Purple Derpathy]

Those are not terrible numbers, honestly. Certainly better than what we're seeing right now.

the offense has been horrible because the QB has been horrible.  in the last two years, when skylar has been playing, the offense has been as good as any K-State offense since 2012 (at least based on PPD).

if the offense sucks next year without thompson, yeah, that's on Mess.  but i don't know how anyone can be so critical when his starting QB has been hurt in 11 of the last 15 games.  that's a product of shitty luck, not bad coordinating.

If only we had a serviceable backup.......

Will’s ppd probably looks pretty decent this year tbh.

For our team or the opponent?

[wetwillie]

I wonder if the HC being LHC Bill Snyder helped our PPD

[Kid In the Hall]

Those are not terrible numbers, honestly. Certainly better than what we're seeing right now.

the offense has been horrible because the QB has been horrible.  in the last two years, when skylar has been playing, the offense has been as good as any K-State offense since 2012 (at least based on PPD).

if the offense sucks next year without thompson, yeah, that's on Mess.  but i don't know how anyone can be so critical when his starting QB has been hurt in 11 of the last 15 games.  that's a product of shitty luck, not bad coordinating.

Part of that criticalness comes from the fact that he was terrible at Iowa State (yeah, they weren't good, but still) and there were some absolute turds in 2019 even with Thompson (that Navy game was one for the ages from an offensive ineptitude standpoint). Aside from OSU this year, I've been pretty pleased with Mess - something I wouldn't have thought I would have said before the season started.

[wiley]

Those are not terrible numbers, honestly. Certainly better than what we're seeing right now.

the offense has been horrible because the QB has been horrible.  in the last two years, when skylar has been playing, the offense has been as good as any K-State offense since 2012 (at least based on PPD).

if the offense sucks next year without thompson, yeah, that's on Mess.  but i don't know how anyone can be so critical when his starting QB has been hurt in 11 of the last 15 games.  that's a product of shitty luck, not bad coordinating.

Part of that criticalness comes from the fact that he was terrible at Iowa State (yeah, they weren't good, but still) and there were some absolute turds in 2019 even with Thompson (that Navy game was one for the ages from an offensive ineptitude standpoint). Aside from OSU this year, I've been pretty pleased with Mess - something I wouldn't have thought I would have said before the season started.

Wasn't the online pretty suspect that year.  Or maybe wr injury issues.  Just looking back at the stats and it seemed like we never threw the ball and it was rarely down field.

[nicname]

Howard: drives/pts

SIU: 10/24
Nevada: 7/28
OSU: 4/3
Total: 21/55

2.62 ppd

My math or method May be off

Edit: w/ drive by drive

SIU:
Drive 1 - 7 pts
Drive 2 - 7 pts
Drive 3 - 0 pts
Drive 4 - 0 pts
Drive 5 - 0 pts
Drive 6 - 3 pts
Drive 7 - 0 pts
Drive 8 - 0 pts
Drive 9 - 0 pts
Drive 10 - 7 pts
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10 drives 24 pts

Nevada
Drive 1 - 7 pts
Drive 2 - 0 pts
Drive 3 - 0 pts
Drive 4 - 0 pts
Drive 5 - 7 pts
Drive 6 - 7 pts
Drive 7 - 7 pts
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7 drives 28 pts

OSU
Drive 1 - 3 pts
Drive 2 - 0 pts
Drive 3 - 0 pts
Drive 4 - 0 pts
-----------------
4 drives 3 pts

[nicname]

Lewis: drives/pts
11/20 = 1.82 ppd

Nevada:
Drive 1 - 7 pts
Drive 2 - 3 pts
----------------
2 drives 10 pts

OSU:
Drive 1 - 0 pts
Drive 2 - 0 pts
Drive 3 - 3 pts
Drive 4 - 0 pts
Drive 5 - 0 pts
Drive 6 - 7 pts
Drive 7 - 0 pts
Drive 8 - 0 pts
Drive 9 - 0 pts
----------------
9 drives 10 pts

[PurpleOil]

Those are not terrible numbers, honestly. Certainly better than what we're seeing right now.

the offense has been horrible because the QB has been horrible.  in the last two years, when skylar has been playing, the offense has been as good as any K-State offense since 2012 (at least based on PPD).

if the offense sucks next year without thompson, yeah, that's on Mess.  but i don't know how anyone can be so critical when his starting QB has been hurt in 11 of the last 15 games.  that's a product of shitty luck, not bad coordinating.

I agree completely

[420seriouscat69]

We talked about QB's for next year, so here you go:

https://twitter.com/Briley_moore22/status/1447589183019749382?s=20

[PurpleOil]

Would definitely take over Howard

[Purple Derpathy]

Would take Kody Cook over Will Howard. I would think very few schools would have an edge on us when it comes to recruiting a QB as a grad transfer. Your competition is Lewis, Howard, and some freshman who hasn't ever seen the field. You get an experienced O-Line, what should be a few quality TE targets, and the best RB in the Big XII.  If we could get our WR corps to marginally improve, the opportunity sells itself.

[DQ12]

We talked about QB's for next year, so here you go:

https://twitter.com/Briley_moore22/status/1447589183019749382?s=20

I think we should aim a little higher than UNI's walk-on backup.

[420seriouscat69]

 

[MakeItRain]

We talked about QB's for next year, so here you go:

https://twitter.com/Briley_moore22/status/1447589183019749382?s=20

I think we should aim a little higher than UNI's walk-on backup.

He was only a walk on because he played for a historically dog crap high school, Des Moines Lincoln, a true city school with zero resources. He was put on scholarship as a freshman. He started 20 games for them. His first ever game was in '19 against Iowa State and he absolutely outplayed Purdy. He had 2800 passing yards his freshman year.

He got COVID last year then a Michigan State transfer came in, dude had 5 P5 offers, McElvain lost his job to the transfer. We could do much much worse. I'd guarantee he'd transfer to a P5 if he was taller than 5'11".

I'm calling it now McElvain will be our starting QB against South Dakota next September.

[wetwillie]

I don’t think he will be a cat

['taterblast]

why would we go after a transfer QB when we have the best back up in the country

[wiley]

why would we go after a transfer QB when we have the best back up in the country

Best transfer QB in the country trumps best backup

[Cire]

Crazy to think that Jesse Ertz would EASILY beat out Howard and Lewis, even with one leg.

[michigancat]

Jesse Ertz was very good for like the second half of his junior season

[PurpleOil]

We talked about QB's for next year, so here you go:

https://twitter.com/Briley_moore22/status/1447589183019749382?s=20

I think we should aim a little higher than UNI's walk-on backup.

He was only a walk on because he played for a historically dog crap high school, Des Moines Lincoln, a true city school with zero resources. He was put on scholarship as a freshman. He started 20 games for them. His first ever game was in '19 against Iowa State and he absolutely outplayed Purdy. He had 2800 passing yards his freshman year.

He got COVID last year then a Michigan State transfer came in, dude had 5 P5 offers, McElvain lost his job to the transfer. We could do much much worse. I'd guarantee he'd transfer to a P5 if he was taller than 5'11".

I'm calling it now McElvain will be our starting QB against South Dakota next September.

I swear to god if you get my hopes up and we see Howard under center next year...

[PurpleOil]

Crazy to think that Jesse Ertz would EASILY beat out Howard and Lewis, even with one leg.

It's not that crazy when you realize that Ertz acknowledged that it's generally a bad thing for a QB to keep giving the ball to the other team, so he didn't.

[nicname]

Howard will be the starter next season. He will be serviceable.

[wetwillie]

Howard will be the starter next season. He will be serviceable.

I give that a 0% chance.  Staff is going to get a transfer QB.

[Cire]

Howard will be the starter next season. He will be serviceable.

I give that a 0% chance.  Staff is going to get a transfer QB.

I imagine this to be the case. 

[Houstoncat93]

Rattler will most likely be available