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Quote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 01:35:35 PMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on July 21, 2022, 01:33:51 PMAlso, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.I'm pretty confident you are not their target audience.I'm not, but I'm also pretty sure that their target audience wants more restrictions on abortion than we currently have. It's weird that they claim to not want that.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on July 21, 2022, 01:33:51 PMAlso, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.I'm pretty confident you are not their target audience.
Also, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.
It’s like I always say when I’m holding someone at gun point: “pulling this trigger will not kill you, it will simply allow a bullet to fire in the direction in which I am pointing.”
Breaking one Commandment to enforce their stance on another Commandment. Christianity!
Quote from: CNS on July 21, 2022, 05:20:34 PMBreaking one Commandment to enforce their stance on another Commandment. Christianity!Which commandment is being broken?
Quote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 05:30:10 PMQuote from: CNS on July 21, 2022, 05:20:34 PMBreaking one Commandment to enforce their stance on another Commandment. Christianity!Which commandment is being broken?A eff ton of false witness
Quote from: CNS on July 21, 2022, 05:40:55 PMQuote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 05:30:10 PMQuote from: CNS on July 21, 2022, 05:20:34 PMBreaking one Commandment to enforce their stance on another Commandment. Christianity!Which commandment is being broken?A eff ton of false witnessFrom everything I have read and heard, the false witness is all on the part of the No campaign.
Quote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 05:46:10 PMQuote from: CNS on July 21, 2022, 05:40:55 PMQuote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 05:30:10 PMQuote from: CNS on July 21, 2022, 05:20:34 PMBreaking one Commandment to enforce their stance on another Commandment. Christianity!Which commandment is being broken?A eff ton of false witnessFrom everything I have read and heard, the false witness is all on the part of the No campaign.You aren’t paying attention. Read the fliers they mail.
Quote from: catastrophe on July 21, 2022, 05:14:29 PMIt’s like I always say when I’m holding someone at gun point: “pulling this trigger will not kill you, it will simply allow a bullet to fire in the direction in which I am pointing.”I'm pretty sure there is going to be a general election before any further changes to abortion laws could go into effect if the Value Them Both amendment passes. If it passes, Kansas voters will have the opportunity to vote for their elected representatives knowing that who they elect could mean changes to abortion laws.
This is the exact flavor of dishonest dealing and bad faith the entire movement is built around.
Quote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 05:33:17 PMQuote from: catastrophe on July 21, 2022, 05:14:29 PMIt’s like I always say when I’m holding someone at gun point: “pulling this trigger will not kill you, it will simply allow a bullet to fire in the direction in which I am pointing.”I'm pretty sure there is going to be a general election before any further changes to abortion laws could go into effect if the Value Them Both amendment passes. If it passes, Kansas voters will have the opportunity to vote for their elected representatives knowing that who they elect could mean changes to abortion laws.you are smart enough to not pretend to be this dumb
Quote from: Kat Kid on July 21, 2022, 08:06:31 PMQuote from: Justwin on July 21, 2022, 05:33:17 PMQuote from: catastrophe on July 21, 2022, 05:14:29 PMIt’s like I always say when I’m holding someone at gun point: “pulling this trigger will not kill you, it will simply allow a bullet to fire in the direction in which I am pointing.”I'm pretty sure there is going to be a general election before any further changes to abortion laws could go into effect if the Value Them Both amendment passes. If it passes, Kansas voters will have the opportunity to vote for their elected representatives knowing that who they elect could mean changes to abortion laws.you are smart enough to not pretend to be this dumbIf Laura Kelly is reelected, do you think there is a 100% chance that abortion will be banned in Kansas in the next four years assuming VTB passes?
Yes of course it's 100% There's a 95% chance a federal ban on abortion passes in the next four years, so it's all moot anyway.
I don’t understand the federal ban piece of this, how would that come to fruition?
Quote from: wetwillie on July 22, 2022, 08:06:19 AMI don’t understand the federal ban piece of this, how would that come to fruition?Republican president, congress, and senate is the only way, but it absolutely will become criminalized nationally whenever that happens again.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on July 22, 2022, 08:07:34 AMQuote from: wetwillie on July 22, 2022, 08:06:19 AMI don’t understand the federal ban piece of this, how would that come to fruition?Republican president, congress, and senate is the only way, but it absolutely will become criminalized nationally whenever that happens again.Can’t that just be changed everytime one party has a simple majority in Congress and the white house?