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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #350 on: November 04, 2020, 11:01:39 PM »
I've been thinking, the dems will end up controlling the Senate. I think they get to 49, maybe even 50. The dems in the Warnock/Loeffler race will end up receiving more votes than the republicans. I think Loeffler will be hurt by not having trump on the ballot in the runoff and Warnock is popular in Georgia. That gets the dems to 49 which is actually 51 because Bernie and Angus King are independents who caucus with Democrats. I also think that if Ossoff can manage to get enough late votes to get Perdue under 50%, Perdue will also slide a bit without trump in the runoff.

If they don't pick off either of these spots I think 50/50 will be enough to get things done because on certain issues I think they can sway Collins, Murkowski, Sasse, Toomey. The turtle won't nearly have the do nothing hammer he has wielded the last 6 years.

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« Reply #351 on: November 05, 2020, 06:23:52 AM »
Those Georgia runoffs in January are going to be intense.

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« Reply #352 on: November 05, 2020, 09:19:42 AM »
Illinois voters reject tax hike.

Pubs dominate state house elections in key battle ground states, and flip one Gub seat. 

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« Reply #353 on: November 05, 2020, 09:22:09 AM »
Pubs continue to dominate local races and with redistricting coming, that doesn't seem likely to end any time soon.

Dems need to improve their weak-ass local game.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #354 on: November 05, 2020, 11:17:12 AM »
That gets the dems to 49 which is actually 51 because Bernie and Angus King are independents who caucus with Democrats.

49 includes sanders and king.

right now they have 48, they would need to win both ga runoffs to get to 50.  also still a longshot for the alaska candidate to win when all the mail in ballots are included (but he's down big now).
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« Reply #355 on: November 05, 2020, 12:18:15 PM »
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David Perdue has fallen under the 50 percent threshold to avoid a runoff in Georgia’s Senate race. He’s at 49.9997 percent — 141 votes short of winning outright with more votes still to be counted from Democratic areas.

Per NYT Reid Epstein. What a margin on that.

Forgot about the potential runoff on that :love:

The amount of money about to pour into GA is going to be ridiculous.  I don't like the Dem's chances but it will be interesting to see if having Trump off the ballot helps or hurts them.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #356 on: November 05, 2020, 12:23:50 PM »
It will be interesting to see if trump campaigns for the special elections. Common sense says yes, but also he could just say eff it and sulk
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #357 on: November 05, 2020, 12:30:50 PM »
It will be interesting to see if trump campaigns for the special elections. Common sense says yes, but also he could just say eff it and sulk

election counts in georgia are fraudulent, i'd recommend to my followers not to participate if i were him.
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« Reply #358 on: November 05, 2020, 01:11:44 PM »
It will be interesting to see if trump campaigns for the special elections. Common sense says yes, but also he could just say eff it and sulk

Trump will probably just hang out at Mar a Lago until January.

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« Reply #359 on: November 05, 2020, 01:15:08 PM »
That wouldn't surprise me. I could also see him doing a few "we still love you" rallies
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« Reply #360 on: November 05, 2020, 01:31:55 PM »
I would guess Trump kids will turn out to GA to try to rally but Trump won't GAF.  Could be a pretty clear indication of which of his bad person offspring have political aspirations.

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« Reply #361 on: November 05, 2020, 01:45:02 PM »
He likes the rallies, but he doesn't like most of the cities he has to go to for them. It would be interesting to see if his base abandons him once he's officially labeled as a loser, too.

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« Reply #362 on: November 05, 2020, 01:49:58 PM »
For those Georgia runoff, on January 5th, voter registration will reopen in Georgia until the first week of December. I have no idea about potential mail in ballot dates.

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« Reply #363 on: November 05, 2020, 01:53:27 PM »
Joe manchin would be an automatic no on any progressive legislation

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« Reply #364 on: November 05, 2020, 02:04:09 PM »
He likes the rallies, but he doesn't like most of the cities he has to go to for them. It would be interesting to see if his base abandons him once he's officially labeled as a loser, too.

He has them convinced he really didn't lose.  Moderates and some party leadership may abandon him but his base never will.

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« Reply #365 on: November 05, 2020, 02:06:13 PM »
Those truck decals are a pain to remove
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #366 on: November 05, 2020, 02:08:52 PM »
the moderate-progressive split didn't mean much in the house over the last two years, because trump.  with a smaller caucus and a less salient common enemy, things could heat up.

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1324439295847968768
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« Reply #367 on: November 05, 2020, 02:14:25 PM »
He likes the rallies, but he doesn't like most of the cities he has to go to for them. It would be interesting to see if his base abandons him once he's officially labeled as a loser, too.

He has them convinced he really didn't lose.  Moderates and some party leadership may abandon him but his base never will.

At some point, they are going to start believing he lost. They will still decorate their truck like he won, just like Texas A&M does with Kyle Field, but none of them will really believe it, and I think most of them aren't going to be that interested in going to a Trump rally.

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« Reply #368 on: November 05, 2020, 02:58:20 PM »
yeah, it's hard to sustain a sports-like fanship for a politician not in office and not campaigning for anything.  like, there's no games.
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« Reply #369 on: November 05, 2020, 03:25:07 PM »
Or they'll go for the same reason they went in 2015. Support their future nominee of choice.

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« Reply #370 on: November 05, 2020, 04:04:14 PM »
None of these people went to rallies before Trump. A lot of them didn't even vote.

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« Reply #371 on: November 05, 2020, 04:05:52 PM »
He's going to run again. Hopefully republicans narrowly reject him and he goes 3rd party
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #372 on: November 05, 2020, 04:38:37 PM »
I bet he’s dead in four years


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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #373 on: November 05, 2020, 04:48:17 PM »
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #374 on: November 05, 2020, 05:46:56 PM »
Joe manchin would be an automatic no on any progressive legislation

You are truly a dipshit, dumb troll clown.