goemaw.com

General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: sys on April 23, 2019, 12:16:14 PM

Title: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on April 23, 2019, 12:16:14 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on April 23, 2019, 12:19:41 PM
Maybe she's a better legislator than writer.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 23, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
No, thanks.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2019, 01:29:20 PM
It kills me that she's all in on Warren :curse:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Brock Landers on April 23, 2019, 01:32:21 PM
My company has a book club and she had the featured title last month.  That's all I've got on the ol' Smarshmeister.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on April 23, 2019, 01:38:19 PM
It kills me that she's all in on Warren :curse:

lol.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2019, 02:06:02 PM
I suppose she's better than a lot of bernie bros
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on April 23, 2019, 06:34:22 PM
Maybe she's a better legislator than writer.

I did not read her book, but have generally enjoyed her articles. Did you read the book?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on April 23, 2019, 06:53:03 PM
We decided we didn't like her here.

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3492.msg1886317#msg1886317
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on March 05, 2020, 12:33:50 PM
Feeling pretty good about this. Especially with Biden at the top.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on March 05, 2020, 12:48:47 PM
I wondered how AZ would react to the governor appointing the person who literally just lost the election for the other senate seat. Seemed a bit tonedeaf
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on March 09, 2020, 08:07:00 AM
Montana's popular Democratic governor.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on March 30, 2020, 10:13:31 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on April 03, 2020, 02:53:32 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on April 03, 2020, 03:30:00 PM
lol @ loeffler.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on April 03, 2020, 03:35:27 PM
Such an insanely lucky break for Collins.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on April 16, 2020, 09:00:22 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on April 17, 2020, 07:49:59 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2020, 08:41:51 AM
I think that poll reflects what would happen if Trump wasn't also on the ballot.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2020, 09:15:27 AM
Man, does kansas have the morality to reject KKKobach yet again?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2020, 09:43:08 AM
Kobach and Trump are basically the same ideologically. Trump will win, and I don't understand why a Trump supporter would not also support Kobach.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on May 05, 2020, 07:44:14 AM
Haven't yet put a MT poll result in this thread.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: porky morgan on May 05, 2020, 10:02:48 AM
Tester won in `16. No reason Bullock can't win. We never see Daines back from Washington, he's not a very strong candidate here.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on May 14, 2020, 10:42:14 AM
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/05/14/mcconnell-pompeo-kansas-senate-255451
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on May 14, 2020, 10:55:48 PM
biden has been extremely generous and accommodating, not just to sanders, but to almost all of the other former candidates and their supporters.  it make me optimistic for his presidency.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 15, 2020, 08:50:23 AM
LOL, Biden's performance over the last few days has been nothing short of  :lol:

He's a puppet for the Communist wing of the most corrupt political party on earth.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on June 07, 2020, 06:43:37 PM
Anyone following the Democratic senate primary in Kentucky? It's the perfect illustration of the completely broken democratic party.
You have three candidates:
Amy McGrath, a moderate democrat who has the entire weight of party's establishment behind her, despite the fact that she voiced support for the Brett Kavanaugh appointment, lost a house race in '18, and has made a series of gaffes trying to go after Turtle boy. She said this when announcing her candidacy,
“Kentuckians voted for Donald Trump because they wanted to drain the swamp and lower prescription drug prices,” she said. “A lot of what has stood in the way of what Donald Trump promised is Senator McConnell.”

Then you have two seemingly controversy free candidates

Charles Booker, a black progressive from Louisville who supports M4A and the GND.

Mike Broihier who is a farmer who supports UBI and M4A. He is endorsed by Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson who when endorsing him made it sound like she's endorsing him over Booker because Booker can't relate to rural Kentuckians.

Then there's Matt Jones, the dude who owns Kentucky Sports Radio, who apparently had a large groundswell from people in Kentucky to run but he didn't after McGrath got him fired from a TV job he had.

Their primary is at the end of the month, I can't find any polling data at all, just data for McGrath v. Mr. Turtle.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on June 09, 2020, 07:06:52 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on June 09, 2020, 01:00:47 PM
Once Mitch starts spending real money, she's screwed.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 09, 2020, 01:03:06 PM
I have been loosely following it. I know people aren't super into Amy McGrath and says she's awful, and I don't know much about her. How did she get dude fired from the radio?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on June 09, 2020, 01:10:03 PM
Following closely. ;)

Can't vote in the primary as I'm registered Republican. I will vote for Booker if he clears the primary and I have donated to his campaign. Hoping for a primary surprise. He's a great candidate in my opinion.

Amy is a trash candidate with her "How I'll work with Trump" line and noted vote for Kavanaugh. She's lining up to be a Dem version of Mitch and that's not what we need.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 09, 2020, 01:15:09 PM
All in on Booker, then. Thinking of requesting a mail-in ballot or 5 to commit some of that tried and true Democrat voter fraud. :wink:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on June 14, 2020, 07:11:34 AM
A thread on why Amy sucks. Also, Booker is on a roll. He's polling withing 7 points of her.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on June 14, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
ipa, why don't you change your registration?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on June 14, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
I should have but it's too late now.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on June 14, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
thanks, i was just curious.  it is interesting to me how people view their party identity vs their current alignment.  to what extent they view any conflict between the two as temporary or view one as a more existential item than the other.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on June 14, 2020, 04:36:15 PM
I registered Republican when I was 18. My world views have changed considerably in 30 years. I should switch parties as I see fit for primaries. I'm not beholden to either party.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on June 14, 2020, 05:04:03 PM
I registered Republican when I was 18. My world views have changed considerably in 30 years. I should switch parties as I see fit for primaries. I'm not beholden to either party.

yeah, i'm somewhat similar in that i've always registered with whichever party whose primaries i wanted to vote in and it has never meant anything to me.  however, since 2016 i've grown increasingly well-aligned with democrats in a way that has never happened before.

oth, i think it would still be pretty easy for me to go back to registering as, and voting for, republicans in the future if the parties realign along different axes than they are currently.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2020, 05:20:46 PM
I don't see why the government has any part in the process.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on June 15, 2020, 01:07:21 AM
I am stunned that voting democrats allow party officials to run their party the way that they do. This has been a losing proposition over and over again. This shouldn't even be about moderate vs. progressive, the extent to which the DNCC and other like groups put the thumb on the scale takes the choice away from the people. Those fundraising stats are embarrassing. Unfortunately, the trumpism of the Republican party has distracted from the gigantic cluster eff the democratic party has become.

For the first time in the history of the country, there is no major party that is considered populist.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on June 15, 2020, 08:35:00 AM
For the first time in the history of the country, there is no major party that is considered populist.

Is this true?  I'm not a political history buff, but just in my lifetime before I paid much attention, I wouldn't have thought that any party would have been considered "populist" during the HW Bush / Clinton / Bush eras.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on June 15, 2020, 08:44:35 AM
The Republican Party is very much the populist party in America.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Yeah, I wish we didn't have a populist choice.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on June 15, 2020, 06:54:41 PM
i wish we had a non-populist choice.

i confess i don't know what mir is referencing though.  that the dscc endorsed mcgrath?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on June 15, 2020, 11:12:15 PM
If it were only an endorsement.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on June 16, 2020, 06:17:34 AM
Ya. Definitely not an endorsement. Full on candidate placement.

Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on June 18, 2020, 08:26:51 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: DaBigTrain on June 19, 2020, 04:58:53 PM
lol what in the world


Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2020, 06:24:57 PM
Warshington DC @mocat
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: mocat on June 22, 2020, 08:30:55 AM
that was incredible. the wrist brace
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2020, 11:44:36 AM
Heard a radio ad for the trumper running against sharice davids in joco and it was equal parts  :sdeek: and  :lol:

He never actually names davids, instead calling her "aockc" multiple times. Also some crap about lawless hordes and communists ripping down monuments to erase our history, etc.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on June 30, 2020, 11:45:40 AM
Welp, establishment dem money burned on a victory for pilot amy. Now they get to burn more to lose to cocaine mitch and orange man.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2020, 11:54:04 AM
Heard a radio ad for the trumper running against sharice davids in joco and it was equal parts  :sdeek: and  :lol:

He never actually names davids, instead calling her "aockc" multiple times. Also some crap about lawless hordes and communists ripping down monuments to erase our history, etc.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ballotpedia-api4/files/thumbs/200/300/Mar92020848AM_80182230_IMG_9170.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on June 30, 2020, 11:55:23 AM
aockc is pretty great
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on June 30, 2020, 11:57:33 AM
Sidenote, that's the exact image in my head when I picture dax  :Rusty:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Trim on June 30, 2020, 12:09:39 PM
AOKC would've been so much better.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 30, 2020, 12:14:54 PM
I'm an extreme weirdo


Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 30, 2020, 01:15:12 PM
Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on June 30, 2020, 02:29:39 PM
Heard a radio ad for the trumper running against sharice davids in joco and it was equal parts  :sdeek: and  :lol:

He never actually names davids, instead calling her "aockc" multiple times. Also some crap about lawless hordes and communists ripping down monuments to erase our history, etc.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ballotpedia-api4/files/thumbs/200/300/Mar92020848AM_80182230_IMG_9170.jpg)


(https://theartofventriloquism.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/jeffdunhamchaos1611.jpg?w=660)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 30, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?

I'm voting for Marshall and Clifford in those races. Kobach is more likely to lose in the general election than Marshall is, but it's going to be next to impossible for the democrats to win a senate seat with Trump on the ballot and Kobach would be a terrible senator for us.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on June 30, 2020, 02:52:07 PM
is that the same Tracey Mann that was KSU student body president?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on June 30, 2020, 03:45:49 PM
is that the same Tracey Mann that was KSU student body president?
yes. I knew him at K-State. Sent a message to his campaign expressing my concern that the main message of his campaign seemed to be blind loyal to Trump. Have not heard back from them.

Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?

I'm voting for Marshall and Clifford in those races. Kobach is more likely to lose in the general election than Marshall is, but it's going to be next to impossible for the democrats to win a senate seat with Trump on the ballot and Kobach would be a terrible senator for us.
Kobach would be an absolute disaster. What do you know about Clifford?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on July 06, 2020, 07:51:49 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 06, 2020, 08:43:39 AM
is that the same Tracey Mann that was KSU student body president?
yes. I knew him at K-State. Sent a message to his campaign expressing my concern that the main message of his campaign seemed to be blind loyal to Trump. Have not heard back from them.

Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?

I'm voting for Marshall and Clifford in those races. Kobach is more likely to lose in the general election than Marshall is, but it's going to be next to impossible for the democrats to win a senate seat with Trump on the ballot and Kobach would be a terrible senator for us.
Kobach would be an absolute disaster. What do you know about Clifford?

I don't know much about him. It's kind of hard to know much about politicians at that level. I know some people who know him personally, though, and they all think he's great. His tv ad mentions that he stands with Trump, but every Kansas republican has an ad that says that.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 06, 2020, 02:13:39 PM

Greenfield has a shitton of money, and Ernst has barely started campaigning. I really doubt Greenfield is going to win, she's an establishment moderate democrat and Ernst is very popular with Republicans in the state. Greenfield is going after Ernst for health care policy, but she herself hasn't endorsed any real changes to the status quo. Ernst has actually done a great job of walking the fine line of not embracing MAGA but keeping them just close enough. Ernst is much more popular with republicans than Greenfield is with democrats, and unlike Mr. Turtle, she doesn't have a trump problem.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 07, 2020, 05:13:03 PM
is that the same Tracey Mann that was KSU student body president?
yes. I knew him at K-State. Sent a message to his campaign expressing my concern that the main message of his campaign seemed to be blind loyal to Trump. Have not heard back from them.

Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?

I'm voting for Marshall and Clifford in those races. Kobach is more likely to lose in the general election than Marshall is, but it's going to be next to impossible for the democrats to win a senate seat with Trump on the ballot and Kobach would be a terrible senator for us.
Kobach would be an absolute disaster. What do you know about Clifford?

I don't know much about him. It's kind of hard to know much about politicians at that level. I know some people who know him personally, though, and they all think he's great. His tv ad mentions that he stands with Trump, but every Kansas republican has an ad that says that.
Heard a Clifford ad on the radio where he was touting his Air Force experiencing and declaring that he "would be the wingman that Donald Trump needs in Washington."
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on July 08, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
is this dude getting any traction?  is he in position to split some kobach voters off?

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on July 08, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
eff Kobach is back? I though we got rid of him.  I will make sure to vote against him even if it’s the only vote I cast on the ballot.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 08, 2020, 05:52:19 PM
is this dude getting any traction?  is he in position to split some kobach voters off?


Kevin Kietzman's homeboy
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kid In the Hall on July 08, 2020, 07:48:02 PM
Hamilton is running ads like crazy, but he won't win. If you're a republican, you want Marshall because he will win the statewide election. If you're a democrat, you want Kobach to win and hope for a repeat of two years ago.

History says Kansas won't elect a democrat to the senate (haven't in nearly 100 years). But, Kobach is Kobach...
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on July 08, 2020, 07:51:30 PM
I’ll vote Marshall in primary and person not named Kobach in general.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 15, 2020, 03:26:20 PM
?s=21
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2020, 03:48:33 PM
is that the same Tracey Mann that was KSU student body president?
yes. I knew him at K-State. Sent a message to his campaign expressing my concern that the main message of his campaign seemed to be blind loyal to Trump. Have not heard back from them.

Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?

I'm voting for Marshall and Clifford in those races. Kobach is more likely to lose in the general election than Marshall is, but it's going to be next to impossible for the democrats to win a senate seat with Trump on the ballot and Kobach would be a terrible senator for us.
Kobach would be an absolute disaster. What do you know about Clifford?

I don't know much about him. It's kind of hard to know much about politicians at that level. I know some people who know him personally, though, and they all think he's great. His tv ad mentions that he stands with Trump, but every Kansas republican has an ad that says that.
Heard a Clifford ad on the radio where he was touting his Air Force experiencing and declaring that he "would be the wingman that Donald Trump needs in Washington."

Yeah, I'm not voting for him in the general election, but I think he's probably the best of the republican candidates.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2020, 03:49:57 PM
Hamilton is running ads like crazy, but he won't win. If you're a republican, you want Marshall because he will win the statewide election. If you're a democrat, you want Kobach to win and hope for a repeat of two years ago.

History says Kansas won't elect a democrat to the senate (haven't in nearly 100 years). But, Kobach is Kobach...

Yeah, republicans should want Marshall because it's possible Kobach loses. Democrats should also want Marshall because Kobach is still very likely to win and he's terrible.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on July 15, 2020, 03:51:22 PM
Hamilton's running ads like he's running out of time.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2020, 03:54:01 PM
Hamilton's running ads like he's running out of time.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 15, 2020, 04:40:38 PM
Hamilton is running ads like crazy, but he won't win. If you're a republican, you want Marshall because he will win the statewide election. If you're a democrat, you want Kobach to win and hope for a repeat of two years ago.

History says Kansas won't elect a democrat to the senate (haven't in nearly 100 years). But, Kobach is Kobach...

Yeah, republicans should want Marshall because it's possible Kobach loses. Democrats should also want Marshall because Kobach is still very likely to win and he's terrible.

Which is worse?

Kobach wins and he also wins General by slight margin when we were hoping the past would repeat itself?

or

Marshall wins Primary and easily wins General?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 15, 2020, 04:43:53 PM
Kobach winning the general is worse. Best case is Kobach losing the general, which is possible, but not likely.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 15, 2020, 04:46:42 PM
Kobach winning the general is worse. Best case is Kobach losing the general, which is possible, but not likely.

Agreed.  #NeverKobach as soon as possible (Primary)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on July 20, 2020, 10:00:14 PM
does this seem plausible to anyone living in ks 2?

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2020, 10:02:45 PM
Wasn't he just arrested?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 20, 2020, 10:06:35 PM
Wasn't he just arrested?

Yeah, voter fraud among other things, see Kansas thread.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on July 20, 2020, 10:21:05 PM
his primary opponent reportedly was only 1 point up on the dem too.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 21, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
I would vote for Watkins over LaTurner.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on July 21, 2020, 05:40:32 PM
the curb music and the veep music pretty much make anything amusing (placed in this thread because i find it interesting how desantis was doing amazingly well as a bipartisan gov after running as a full on trumpalo and then coronavirus has just taken him completely the eff out, at least for now).

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on July 21, 2020, 06:43:45 PM
Yes, in 2070 the curb credits will still be used and no one will remember how it started
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on July 21, 2020, 06:48:30 PM
My candidate/hero doesn’t believe in the values of most people in the state of Alabama. He believes in abortion, no guns, big spending.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 21, 2020, 09:50:05 PM
That was the best use of the curb theme music I've ever seen. The look he gives right before it fades to black is the chef's kiss.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on July 23, 2020, 08:55:50 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on July 23, 2020, 09:05:04 PM
In the name of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I hope they take it back.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on July 24, 2020, 05:26:47 AM
georgia senate at tossup is a well, goddamn.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on July 24, 2020, 07:30:45 AM
I've been curious how Arizona will turn out. If I was a voter there I'd be pretty motivated after the governor appointed the person who had just lost the senate election.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 25, 2020, 10:41:50 AM
georgia senate at tossup is a well, goddamn.

What is the site you use to bet on this stuff? I live in a legal gaming state, but it's only sports. I'm going to place my first political bet that Joni Ernst wins Iowa.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on July 25, 2020, 10:50:20 AM
georgia senate at tossup is a well, goddamn.

What is the site you use to bet on this stuff? I live in a legal gaming state, but it's only sports. I'm going to place my first political bet that Joni Ernst wins Iowa.
https://www.predictit.org/
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 25, 2020, 03:12:15 PM
georgia senate at tossup is a well, goddamn.

What is the site you use to bet on this stuff? I live in a legal gaming state, but it's only sports. I'm going to place my first political bet that Joni Ernst wins Iowa.
https://www.predictit.org/

Thanks, signed up for an account but making this bet feels like betting against your own team, but with higher stakes.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on July 30, 2020, 09:06:10 AM
is that the same Tracey Mann that was KSU student body president?
yes. I knew him at K-State. Sent a message to his campaign expressing my concern that the main message of his campaign seemed to be blind loyal to Trump. Have not heard back from them.

Thoughts for what to do with the Republican primary for Pat Robert's senate seat?

1. Kobach - reactionary boot-licker
2. Marshall - anxious to prove that he is almost as skilled at boot-licking as Kobach but won't come across to moderates as a complete psycho in the general election
3. A former football player that I don't know anything about

I think I'm gonna vote #NeverKobach...

Is there a viable alternative to TrumpToady Tracey Mann in the Big First - either in the primary or general election?

I'm voting for Marshall and Clifford in those races. Kobach is more likely to lose in the general election than Marshall is, but it's going to be next to impossible for the democrats to win a senate seat with Trump on the ballot and Kobach would be a terrible senator for us.
Kobach would be an absolute disaster. What do you know about Clifford?

I don't know much about him. It's kind of hard to know much about politicians at that level. I know some people who know him personally, though, and they all think he's great. His tv ad mentions that he stands with Trump, but every Kansas republican has an ad that says that.
An attack add against Clifford popped up in my FB feed yesterday. Talking about how Clifford was soft on immigration and had allowed the paradise of SW Kansas to be overrun by dirty immigrants from Somalia. You should have seen the racist filth that popped up in the comments section. I was going to link to the add / post but I cannot find it. Maybe it has been taken down...
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 09:22:49 AM
georgia senate at tossup is a well, goddamn.

What is the site you use to bet on this stuff? I live in a legal gaming state, but it's only sports. I'm going to place my first political bet that Joni Ernst wins Iowa.
https://www.predictit.org/

Thanks, signed up for an account but making this bet feels like betting against your own team, but with higher stakes.
I used to bet against K-State every single game as an emotional hedge.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 09:24:47 AM
I remember sitting in a Vegas bar watching us play Wisconsin in the NCAA (Frank calls Kellis a rough ridin' downgrade game) and being almost completely neutral on if we won or not because I had nailed the $ amount. It was an incredible feeling in that there was almost no feeling.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 09:28:40 AM
Like I'd fist pump us hitting a 3 but then immediately the financial repercussions would pull me back to the center.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Phil Titola on July 30, 2020, 09:34:35 AM
Like I'd fist pump us hitting a 3 but then immediately the financial repercussions would pull me back to the center.

I also subscibe to this approach except I can never bring myself to bet enough to quite neutralize the EMAW in me, it's more just a "damn we lost but least I made $50"
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on July 30, 2020, 09:47:30 AM
I remember sitting in a Vegas bar watching us play Wisconsin in the NCAA (Frank calls Kellis a rough ridin' downgrade game) and being almost completely neutral on if we won or not because I had nailed the $ amount. It was an incredible feeling in that there was almost no feeling.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Couldn't be me. That was my toughest loss ever as a K-State basketball fan. Jake's tears :bawl: I can't watch sports as an unemotional third party, even for teams I don't care about I'll eventually pick sides if I'm watching.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on July 30, 2020, 10:00:53 AM
I was at a bachelor party in Austin and kind of made the group go to a dive bar while I watched it and got increasingly drunk.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on July 30, 2020, 10:10:40 AM
I remember sitting in a Vegas bar watching us play Wisconsin in the NCAA (Frank calls Kellis a rough ridin' downgrade game) and being almost completely neutral on if we won or not because I had nailed the $ amount. It was an incredible feeling in that there was almost no feeling.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Couldn't be me. That was my toughest loss ever as a K-State basketball fan. Jake's tears :bawl: I can't watch sports as an unemotional third party, even for teams I don't care about I'll eventually pick sides if I'm watching.

Same, if I'm truely neutral, then I'm not watching
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
I remember sitting in a Vegas bar watching us play Wisconsin in the NCAA (Frank calls Kellis a rough ridin' downgrade game) and being almost completely neutral on if we won or not because I had nailed the $ amount. It was an incredible feeling in that there was almost no feeling.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ACTUARIES HATE HIM!
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 01, 2020, 05:58:50 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on August 01, 2020, 06:06:53 PM
I think trump might be realizing he is finished
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Katpappy on August 01, 2020, 07:23:32 PM
Maybe that's why he's wearing a mask more often. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on August 04, 2020, 02:53:20 PM
https://www.al.com/politics/2020/08/poll-tommy-tuberville-leads-doug-jones-by-17-points-in-alabama-senate-race.html

That's two touchdowns and a field goal for you sports fans out there.

Seems like aligning against Trump and with Pelosi is a losing position in Alabama.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: LickNeckey on August 04, 2020, 02:56:17 PM
Shocking...

Doug Jones barely beat a pederast.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on August 04, 2020, 07:36:40 PM
So does Kobach take this thing?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 04, 2020, 08:15:21 PM
So does Kobach take this thing?

looks like kansas is finally putting a stake through this monster's heart.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2020, 08:29:12 PM
My candidate/hero doesn’t believe in the values of most people in the state of Alabama. He believes in abortion, no guns, big spending.
Well now Super Obsessed ChinSTALKER, Doug Jones owns guns and for the most part abortion is a side show IMO. 

Big spending?  LOL, you’re an amazing dork that stands out in this sea of dorks.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 05, 2020, 01:11:57 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 05, 2020, 01:29:39 AM
goodbye, yellow.

Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 05, 2020, 01:33:01 AM
crazy ass eastern kansas.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2020, 09:06:45 AM
Orange Meade makes me happy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 06, 2020, 02:00:04 AM
good grief, someone raise the interest rates.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 12, 2020, 12:58:42 AM
republicans added another member to their growing qanon caucus.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on August 12, 2020, 07:56:46 AM
good grief, someone raise the interest rates.

1291388027655389186[/tweet]] (http://[tweet)[/url]


UBI increases Federal revenue.  :Wha:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 12, 2020, 11:36:55 AM
markey is rough ridin' shameless with this pay everyone crap.  what a weak and foolish man.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2020, 12:03:47 PM
republicans added another member to their growing qanon caucus.


I love it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on August 12, 2020, 01:37:52 PM
markey is rough ridin' shameless with this pay everyone crap.  what a weak and foolish man.

he's not going to pay you, don't worry about it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on August 12, 2020, 01:44:02 PM
good grief, someone raise the interest rates.


Congress is proposing to spend 3 trillion...
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on August 12, 2020, 01:45:22 PM
Which equates to 8500/person
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on August 12, 2020, 01:53:05 PM
Which is absurd
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on August 12, 2020, 02:07:39 PM
I want $8500 for all of my 20 children too
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 12, 2020, 02:17:20 PM
i'm a hard no on paying the children.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on August 12, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
Not up to you, sorry.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 12, 2020, 02:20:08 PM
i need to find out kennedy's position on giving children money.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on August 12, 2020, 02:24:33 PM
I want $8500 for all of my 20 children too

It’s all probably going to businesses and states, regardless of whether they need it or not.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 12, 2020, 02:25:34 PM
They should subtract $2000 per child.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 12, 2020, 02:41:07 PM
They should subtract $2000 per child.

that would be fair and would also help defray some of the strain on the public purse.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 13, 2020, 10:13:03 PM
extending expanded unemployment is vital.  sending checks to everyone is stupid.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on August 13, 2020, 10:41:44 PM
Well, I wouldn’t worry too much about them sending checks to everyone because they decided they just aren’t going to do crap for anyone.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on August 13, 2020, 10:42:49 PM
extending expanded unemployment is vital.  sending checks to everyone is stupid.


I agree, but it doesn’t cost anywhere near 3 trillion to do that
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on August 13, 2020, 10:45:04 PM
The reason the market is so high is bc of a literal flood of liquidity
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 13, 2020, 11:11:01 PM
they decided they just aren’t going to do crap for anyone.

not a sustainable position.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on August 14, 2020, 11:22:08 PM
they decided they just aren’t going to do crap for anyone.

not a sustainable position.
People keep saying that, and I keep looking at the actors involved and what they are saying and I think we may be sustaining that position for awhile.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 14, 2020, 11:40:20 PM
Around me, hiring signs are plastered in nearly every window.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 14, 2020, 11:43:19 PM
Around me, hiring signs are plastered in nearly every window.
In first world Alabama!? :surprised:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 14, 2020, 11:50:28 PM
Around me, hiring signs are plastered in nearly every window.
In first world Alabama!? :surprised:

Mad as usual.

 :frown:

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 18, 2020, 07:14:53 PM
ok.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on August 18, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
lmao


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 18, 2020, 07:20:30 PM
Wow :sdeek:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on August 18, 2020, 07:29:44 PM
She had Matt Gaetz endorsement which should surprise no one.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on August 18, 2020, 08:01:35 PM
Those are some weird looking faces.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on August 18, 2020, 08:10:50 PM
holy crap lmao


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on August 18, 2020, 08:12:50 PM
It won't be as funny when she's in Congress.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 18, 2020, 08:16:38 PM
It won't be as funny when she's in Congress.

it's a pretty safe dem district.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on August 18, 2020, 08:17:49 PM
You never know sys.  You never know.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on August 18, 2020, 08:34:17 PM
Is that the woman who chained herself to Twitters front door to demand they reinstate her account and they just started using a different door?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on August 18, 2020, 09:05:39 PM
Lmfao Florida
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on August 18, 2020, 11:06:30 PM
lmao @ rough ridin' ben sasse thinking he can win a nomination in this party.

Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on August 19, 2020, 12:05:35 AM
It won't be as funny when she's in Congress.

If it were a R district I'd laugh my ass off.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on August 19, 2020, 08:12:59 AM
Is that the woman who chained herself to Twitters front door to demand they reinstate her account and they just started using a different door?

Yes, she's banned from basically every site online.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Woogy on August 19, 2020, 08:38:29 AM
Pugsley and Wednesday go to Washington.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 19, 2020, 11:34:38 AM
Is that the woman who chained herself to Twitters front door to demand they reinstate her account and they just started using a different door?

Yes, she's banned from basically every site online.

This is Jacobs big chance to be a part of her staff!
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on August 19, 2020, 01:29:49 PM
How do you get banned from money? She got banned by PayPal, how did she offend money?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on August 19, 2020, 07:50:33 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200820/7ced9575a796d7e32c9241460e24c641.jpg)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2020, 10:44:48 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2020, 01:11:11 AM
Well, good thing I didn't actually put anything down on the Iowa Senate race yet

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on September 08, 2020, 02:17:59 PM
I had no idea this was even a little bit competitive.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 08, 2020, 02:22:48 PM
I'd like her chances if it weren't a presidential election year. Marshall kind of sucks.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on September 08, 2020, 02:37:29 PM
My tiny slice of my drive to work and driving/running around my neighborhood puts Bollier-Marshall signs at like 20 to 1. I fully understand that is just JoCo and the rest of the state is totally different but I could see it being within 5% when done. She does have a ton, and I mean a ton of money for a Senate race. I do think Marshall wins though, if it had been Kobach, I think she'd win.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on September 08, 2020, 02:42:52 PM
does Boiler have a cash advantage because Marshall had to spend so much against Kobach? That seems crazy
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on September 08, 2020, 03:20:10 PM
does Boiler have a cash advantage because Marshall had to spend so much against Kobach? That seems crazy

no, she it's because she raised a lot of money.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
Doug Jones just whipping yard sign ass in upper middle class Homewood and Vestavia Hills, crushing yard sign ball sacks in upper class Mountain Brook and completely dominating in Hoover White Flight Enclave/New Money Hoods of Shoal Creek and Graystone (very surprised the HOA isn't on this).   It was a total Doug Jones rout in mega white Lib enclave Highland Park in BHAM proper and Southside/5 Points South.

Suffice it to say, Doug Jones has locked down his fellow BHAM moneyed white folks!

 

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on September 08, 2020, 04:51:16 PM
Doug is huge with liberal wannabe white elites. Thank God real Alabama voters can see right through him.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 08, 2020, 05:02:23 PM
Chin with more shitty posting.

 :frown: :frown:

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2020, 02:43:49 PM
(https://media.tenor.com/images/afdd108e2e6b46fd825a66e1b92dc87e/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on September 10, 2020, 02:46:19 PM
Lol what the...
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on September 10, 2020, 06:45:39 PM
I hate Joe Lieberman so much.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on September 14, 2020, 09:40:36 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 15, 2020, 04:23:58 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Phil Titola on September 15, 2020, 04:38:50 PM

It upsets me greatly that posing at a gun shop works to crank people up.  So simple.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on September 15, 2020, 05:16:18 PM

It upsets me greatly that posing at a gun shop works to crank people up.  So simple.
Like throwing chum to sharks
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Brock Landers on September 15, 2020, 07:49:18 PM

It upsets me greatly that posing at a gun shop works to crank people up.  So simple.
Like throwing chum to sharks

This was such a fantastically stupid move that I can only conclude it was done on purpose as some sort of passive aggressive shot at Trump.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2020, 01:42:51 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2020, 12:20:31 AM
Now do Kentucky. The DNC really mumped that one up, badly.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on September 17, 2020, 09:00:46 PM
lol @ loeffler.


pretty amazingly, loeffler has come back in this thing to make it competitive.  in fact, she's had a decent lead in the last polls (there haven't been many), although i think i'd still bet on collins to win if i had to place a bet.

perhaps even more amazingly, dems are still splitting the vote, so it's technically possible that dems get shut out of the run off entirely, although i think it is almost certain that voters break for warnock at some point.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on September 19, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on September 19, 2020, 11:35:33 PM
The amount of money being spent here on this race is unreal one day I'm gonna log how many campaign and super pac ads I see in an hour for this race alone. I've never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on September 20, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
The amount of money being spent here on this race is unreal one day I'm gonna log how many campaign and super pac ads I see in an hour for this race alone. I've never seen anything like it.

i don't think that's even one of the top money senate races.  dems are pouring money over candidates this year.  by now, actblue has probably taken in 100m since rbg's death and presumably most of that is going to senate candidates.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on September 21, 2020, 05:14:42 AM
Now do Kentucky. The DNC really mumped that one up, badly.
Yes they did. It's almost like they want to keep Mitch in office.

Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on September 21, 2020, 04:20:06 PM
Don't donate to McGrath if you like to support candidates outside your area. She's completely toasted. 50,000 swing in Republican favor this summer.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200921/4cabf8b09e733caf6433a4b1d92f472b.jpg)

Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
Jesus.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 01, 2020, 04:44:41 PM
the funny thing is that he appears to be the blandest, most boring candidate possible, at least from a casual glance.  and he's intentionally been running an out of sight, out of mind campaign.  generic alternative really seems to be a great strategy for 2020.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on October 01, 2020, 04:54:13 PM
Who is he running against?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2020, 04:56:45 PM
He's going to kick Thom Tillis's ass.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: nicname on October 05, 2020, 09:06:54 PM
Not sure if there is a political ads thread (there should be), so I’m gonna put this Doug Jones gem here:

Tommy Tuberville “The Quitter)

?s=20
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on October 07, 2020, 10:25:32 AM
House forecast live

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/house/
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 08, 2020, 07:01:21 AM
about to buy all of the remaining time in iowa just to keep ernst from getting any of it.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on October 09, 2020, 10:08:59 AM
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/

Maybe the Senate does flip  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 09, 2020, 04:29:06 PM
68% seems about right.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 11, 2020, 03:31:31 PM
is the aggregate value of every television, radio and digital ad in south carolina in september and october greater than 57 million dollars?

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 14, 2020, 06:06:20 PM
  :emawkid:

(https://i.imgur.com/CjMW8KB.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 14, 2020, 06:18:51 PM
Vonda signed her name and doesn't need anyone's protection.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 14, 2020, 06:45:14 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 14, 2020, 07:16:15 PM
  :emawkid:

(https://i.imgur.com/CjMW8KB.jpg)

How do you "see an illegal?" I bet ol Vonda would deny being a racist.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on October 15, 2020, 08:24:32 AM
  :emawkid:

(https://i.imgur.com/CjMW8KB.jpg)

How do you "see an illegal?" I bet ol Vonda would deny being a racist.
Using 20/20 "ill-eagle" vision. Listening for illegal accents or illegal use of non-American languages. They're pretty trained up on this stuff in Green, KS
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 15, 2020, 08:45:26 PM
brutal.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on October 15, 2020, 09:06:32 PM
Lol

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on October 15, 2020, 09:15:40 PM
That sneaky SOB moderator
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on October 15, 2020, 09:17:06 PM
MIR is going to say mean things about this lady I can feel it
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on October 15, 2020, 09:29:13 PM
Sounds like some Donna Brazile character must have been feeding her the questions. Very shady if you ask me
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2020, 05:04:26 AM
Damn good think I never placed that predictit bet back in the early summer.

FWIW neither of the only two Des Moines news stations that anyone watches, including the one that hosted that debate, played that clip on their 10:00 news, nor did they have it on their social media. The Lincoln Protect has it though and I'm guessing we'll see it on ads the last three weeks of campaigning.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2020, 05:09:15 AM
MIR is going to say mean things about this lady I can feel it

She's a clown. Didn't embrace trumpism until this summer as a plot to get reelected and it blew up in her face. She had a dumb motorcycle rally last weekend, we drove by it a couple of times, a lot of crackers having a superspreader event with no masks, same uterus l idiots who came to watch the cheeto on Wednesday.

She'll probably run in and win the primary for Grassley's senate seat in two years.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2020, 05:20:01 AM
Where the hell is all of this money coming from and shouldn't we as a country be disturbed by this?

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on October 16, 2020, 05:34:43 AM
Corporate America runs the show. Aren't you entertained?

Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 16, 2020, 05:55:52 AM
the majority of the money comes from individual donations from american citizens.  it's not a good way to run elections, but the show is being run by us.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on October 16, 2020, 06:20:11 AM
the majority of the money comes from individual donations from american citizens.  it's not a good way to run elections, but the show is being run by us.

Large Contributions   $282,507,952   52.52%
Small Individual Contributions (< $200)   $203,671,028   37.87%
Other   $51,669,512   9.60%


Is open secrets a decent spot to get info like this?  I don’t know what constitutes a large contribution so a lot of individual contributions could be in that bucket.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 16, 2020, 06:58:32 AM
large contributions = contributions between $2800-$200.  small contributions are less than $200.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on October 16, 2020, 07:27:40 AM
Where the hell is all of this money coming from and shouldn't we as a country be disturbed by this?


Yes, yes, and I am part of the small donor problem so shame on me.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on October 16, 2020, 07:32:41 AM
If that money can help offset the overrepresentation of rural voters, it seems like a good thing to me.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 16, 2020, 07:47:35 AM
I'm curious how much comes from out of state. Obviously the internet (and how the internet has evolved) makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on October 16, 2020, 07:51:46 AM
Wonder how much they see as in the diminished returns category at this point and will use for some other purpose than this election cycle.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 16, 2020, 01:49:59 PM
I figured the "Large Contribution" category would be >$2800. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on October 16, 2020, 01:51:23 PM
Texags thinks it's China cash  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 16, 2020, 02:10:34 PM
Mrs. WnK was trigger happy on donating to this year's elections.  Many senators in other states received our money and she let me know afterwards.

I'm impressed with the amount of small contributions.  People want change. 

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on October 16, 2020, 05:28:59 PM
Where the hell is all of this money coming from and shouldn't we as a country be disturbed by this?


Damn, that is a lot of money
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on October 16, 2020, 05:31:54 PM
Where the hell is all of this money coming from and shouldn't we as a country be disturbed by this?

I’m surprised it isn’t 10/10 every new election cycle I guess
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on October 16, 2020, 05:41:29 PM
Are TV stations just swimming in Scrooge McDuck piles of gold from all this campaign spend?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 16, 2020, 05:47:14 PM
I figured the "Large Contribution" category would be >$2800.

$2800 is the contribution limit for donations to candidates.  if you want to give a lot of money, you have to give it to a superpac.  you can also give a medium-large amount of money to a party group (like the dscc or kansas republican party, for example)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 16, 2020, 06:02:13 PM
I have $25 to Jaime Harrison.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 16, 2020, 06:09:15 PM
I gave a few bucks to Mark Kelly too but I don’t remember how much. Winning the Senate is way more important than the presidency.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 16, 2020, 06:11:07 PM
Where the hell is all of this money coming from and shouldn't we as a country be disturbed by this?

I’m surprised it isn’t 10/10 every new election cycle I guess
I don't think there's 10 truly competitive Senate races most years and I'm assuming that until very recently less money was spent on races in smaller states
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 17, 2020, 10:44:09 PM
subtle.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 17, 2020, 11:19:03 PM
subtle.


Wow, that's brilliant!
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Trim on October 18, 2020, 12:03:34 AM
:frown:


Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 18, 2020, 05:09:51 PM
dude is scared shitless.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on October 18, 2020, 05:47:32 PM
That's a really weird way to say it
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 18, 2020, 06:35:03 PM
Ads in Texas use a candidate’s association with Trump as a negative. Never thought I’d see it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 08:39:42 PM
texas posters, please report here if you see any of these ads.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on October 20, 2020, 08:43:29 PM
If the question is whether I've seen a bunch of MJ Hegar ads lately, the answer is "yes."
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 08:46:32 PM
If the question is whether I've seen a bunch of MJ Hegar ads lately, the answer is "yes."

paid for by her campaign, by schumer's group or by this superpac?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on October 20, 2020, 08:47:14 PM
If the question is whether I've seen a bunch of MJ Hegar ads lately, the answer is "yes."

paid for by her campaign, by schumer's group or by this superpac?

I don't know?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 08:48:27 PM
interesting that this is completely focused on health care and covid.  trump won this district by 9 in '16, cruz won it by 1 in '18.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 08:49:18 PM
I don't know?

please pay attention to the credits the next time you see them.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on October 20, 2020, 08:49:53 PM
I don't know?

please pay attention to the credits the next time you see them.

Just for you, I shall try.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Trim on October 20, 2020, 08:55:30 PM
interesting that this is completely focused on health care and covid.  trump won this district by 9 in '16, cruz won it by 1 in '18.


That's definitely not what I know about Dan Crenshaw.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 20, 2020, 09:00:11 PM
I will say I have never seen Cornyn ads ever until this election.  But every other commercial is for Heger.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 09:01:37 PM
Just for you, I shall try.

thank you.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 09:04:30 PM
 :Take the Bait:
I will say I have never seen Cornyn ads ever until this election.  But every other commercial is for Heger.

that's interesting because hegar hasn't raised all that much money herself.  she raised like 14 million last quarter, which would normally be fine, but compared to like harrison raising 50 million or whatever it was, it's pretty bad.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 20, 2020, 09:14:13 PM
I think Beto should have run.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 09:18:37 PM
yeah, a lot of people think that.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 20, 2020, 09:19:29 PM
I never donated to Heger because I never thought she had a chance of winning, I still don’t but it will be closer than I thought.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on October 20, 2020, 09:20:26 PM
I think Beto should have run.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don't worry, that dorkstore will be sweating through shirts on a skateboard at your local Whataburger for many years to come.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 20, 2020, 09:23:31 PM
I never donated to Heger because I never thought she had a chance of winning, I still don’t but it will be closer than I thought.

my expectation since forever has been that she'll run a couple of points behind biden.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on October 21, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
texas posters, please report here if you see any of these ads.


The recode article was interesting, at least the statement trying to quantify late TV ads' impact. I cant image it's that high of an effect tho.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on October 21, 2020, 06:16:47 PM
Definitely seen some ads, but I suspect most people like myself were going to vote against Cornyn regardless of his opponent if they were going to vote him down at all.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 21, 2020, 07:09:58 PM
Definitely seen some ads, but I suspect most people like myself were going to vote against Cornyn regardless of his opponent if they were going to vote him down at all.

her one and only job as a candidate is basically to try and reduce the number of voters that vote biden/cornyn from a maximum of maybe 5% down to as close to 0% as she can get it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 21, 2020, 08:28:10 PM
just had my first irl poll call from someone that wasn't a call center or something. lady called me and asked me about my voting potential, about NE gambling laws on the ballot, my thoughts on various NE gambling commercials (both pro and con), my political leanings, and then from WTF'ville my thoughts on Ted Cruz (giant lmao 1 out of 10). she apologized for having to read off in their entirety the (3) gambling things I voted on but no biggie. she also laughed with me about ted cruz but said she couldn't comment on any of the questions she asked.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on October 21, 2020, 08:59:47 PM
just had my first irl poll call from someone that wasn't a call center or something. lady called me and asked me about my voting potential, about NE gambling laws on the ballot, my thoughts on various NE gambling commercials (both pro and con), my political leanings, and then from WTF'ville my thoughts on Ted Cruz (giant lmao 1 out of 10). she apologized for having to read off in their entirety the (3) gambling things I voted on but no biggie. she also laughed with me about ted cruz but said she couldn't comment on any of the questions she asked.

So you were a Texas resident at some point?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on October 21, 2020, 10:08:28 PM
Ted Cruz is known to be a dumbass in other parts of the country as well.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 21, 2020, 11:03:40 PM
I never donated to Heger because I never thought she had a chance of winning, I still don’t but it will be closer than I thought.

my expectation since forever has been that she'll run a couple of points behind biden.

aren't states generally more conservative with presidential elections?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 21, 2020, 11:24:54 PM
I never donated to Heger because I never thought she had a chance of winning, I still don’t but it will be closer than I thought.

my expectation since forever has been that she'll run a couple of points behind biden.

aren't states generally more conservative with presidential elections?

They are more republican across the board, actually.

On Netflix there's a series called Explained, they have several subseries, the one you should watch is "Whose Vote Counts: Explained", that specific episode(there are 3 about this election) lays out, in detail, why that is.  Very interesting.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 21, 2020, 11:49:13 PM
aren't states generally more conservative with presidential elections?

not that i'm aware of.

with respect to 2020 senate vs presidential races in competitive states, there seem to be a fair share of both senate candidates that run ahead of the presidential and the reverse.  for a while trump was running ahead of most 'pub senate candidates, but that has recently flipped.  and for a while most dem senate candidates were running ahead of biden, but i think that is reversing too (because of undecideds, the relationships aren't just mirror images).

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2020, 02:02:14 AM
Turtle looking [redacted] starting to molt his reptile skin.
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: nicname on October 22, 2020, 02:06:33 AM
Turtle looking [redacted] starting to molt his reptile skin.
Invalid Tweet ID

Old AF and full of sin.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 22, 2020, 08:22:16 AM
It's happening.

(https://i.ibb.co/SsmrL7X/TT74344.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 08:42:59 AM
bet he's on blood thinners for something. makes that happen to olds.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on October 22, 2020, 09:11:24 AM
bet he's on blood thinners for something. makes that happen to olds.

Sounds right.  My grandfather was on blood thinners 5-10 years before his death and skin looked similar.  The skin becomes very thin.  Mitch could bleed out from a simple paper cut.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MadCat on October 22, 2020, 09:17:09 AM
bet he's on blood thinners for something. makes that happen to olds.

Sounds right.  My grandfather was on blood thinners 5-10 years before his death and skin looked similar.  The skin becomes very thin.  Mitch could bleed out from a simple paper cut.
My dad's on blood thinners and his hands look like that.  He's always bumping into crap too so he almost always has a bandaid or two on.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2020, 09:20:49 AM
Crap like that is why I have no intention of getting old
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2020, 11:27:03 AM
bet he's on blood thinners for something. makes that happen to olds.

Sounds right.  My grandfather was on blood thinners 5-10 years before his death and skin looked similar.  The skin becomes very thin.  Mitch could bleed out from a simple paper cut.
My dad's on blood thinners and his hands look like that.  He's always bumping into crap too so he almost always has a bandaid or two on.

Do blood thinners make your mouth and nose look like that too?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: IPA4Me on October 22, 2020, 11:29:22 AM
Yes.

Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 11:31:22 AM
Yeah, you basically internally and externally bleed constantly if you are on enough of them.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on October 22, 2020, 11:33:04 AM
I legit can't look at those photos long, it's very :barf:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on October 22, 2020, 11:36:02 AM
Crap like that is why I have no intention of getting old

So far, no matter what signs of aging I experience, I'm sorta always 18 according to what my brain often tells me. Like, I saw a video of someone skateboarding in a pool the other day and thought, "I should get out my skateboard and do some of that," and, like, I would probably literally die if I tried that.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2020, 11:59:03 AM
I'm voting for one Republican, whenever it is I finally decide to go vote, and it's for the least likely of races, Polk County Sheriff. The Democrat hasn't filled out any of the questionnaires that I could find. The Republican incumbent, whether he believes it or not, has committed to all the reforms many are asking for from law enforcement, and I know for a fact that they have expanded their anti bias training.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 12:27:39 PM
I'm voting for one Republican, whenever it is I finally decide to go vote, and it's for the least likely of races, Polk County Sheriff. The Democrat hasn't filled out any of the questionnaires that I could find. The Republican incumbent, whether he believes it or not, has committed to all the reforms many are asking for from law enforcement, and I know for a fact that they have expanded their anti bias training.

I voted for 2 dems, the rest pubs, no to retaining any judges, and for the legalized gambling stuff (3 things)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on October 22, 2020, 01:00:38 PM
I'm voting for one Republican, whenever it is I finally decide to go vote, and it's for the least likely of races, Polk County Sheriff. The Democrat hasn't filled out any of the questionnaires that I could find. The Republican incumbent, whether he believes it or not, has committed to all the reforms many are asking for from law enforcement, and I know for a fact that they have expanded their anti bias training.
Got a Republican candidate for sheriff here as well who surprisingly seems a lot more interested in actually improving accountability measures.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 22, 2020, 01:11:39 PM
I will not be voting for any republicans
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2020, 01:20:11 PM
I'm not voting for any republicans, either. eff 'em.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 22, 2020, 01:24:44 PM
I voted for my neighbor for School Board and I think he's Republican.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 22, 2020, 01:24:55 PM
to be fair, Trump is the only republican on my ballot with a realistic shot at winning an office. Also a city council candidate who I think is running as a dem but everyone says is basically a republican if not explicitly a republican
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on October 22, 2020, 01:30:37 PM
I'm not sure any Democrats on my ballot have a chance of winning.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2020, 01:32:44 PM
to be fair, Trump is the only republican on my ballot with a realistic shot at winning an office. Also a city council candidate who I think is running as a dem but everyone says is basically a republican if not explicitly a republican

If I lived where you lived, I would probably vote for the DINO.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on October 22, 2020, 01:44:38 PM
The Democratic Party sends me a cheat sheet that tells me which candidates and issues to vote for. Very convenient.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on October 22, 2020, 01:47:53 PM
I’ll probably vote Democrat for President, Senate, and Representative. Somehow Republican for states attorney to vote against Kim Foxx .  Would have considered voting against Quigley for US Rep, but here’s one of his oppponent’s questionnaire answers:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201022/1fd8c6b4090cb5e65b73087d240d712b.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on October 22, 2020, 01:49:09 PM
I did not vote for any pubs, but if this was 2 years ago with Bollier being my State Senator and Stephanie Clayton being my state rep, they were pubs then and I voted for them, and now they are dems so, :dunno: 

Most pubs these days are not even close to moderates
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Phil Titola on October 22, 2020, 01:52:58 PM
KS only has trump up single digits.  Wasn't someone here talking about living in a non-competitive state and their vote didn't matter?

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article246630883.html#storylink=mainstage_card2
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
KS only has trump up single digits.  Wasn't someone here talking about living in a non-competitive state and their vote didn't matter?

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article246630883.html#storylink=mainstage_card2

It's still a non-competitive state and your vote still doesn't matter. Vote Biden, anyway.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 22, 2020, 05:41:25 PM
I voted for 2 dems, the rest pubs, no to retaining any judges, and for the legalized gambling stuff (3 things)

did you vote for bacon or eastman?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 05:43:23 PM
I voted for 2 dems, the rest pubs, no to retaining any judges, and for the legalized gambling stuff (3 things)

did you vote for bacon or eastman?
Eastman was my other Dem besides Biden


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 22, 2020, 05:52:21 PM
Eastman was my other Dem besides Biden

interesting.  should be a tight race.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 05:59:53 PM
Hopefully


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on October 22, 2020, 06:26:59 PM
I completed my ballot today.

Mental health services levy: yes
Senior citizen services levy: yes
Fire Department levy: yes
Police Department levy: no
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on October 22, 2020, 06:46:15 PM
I’m not voting for any republicans this year.  Also not voting for any democrats. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: treysolid on October 22, 2020, 09:30:59 PM
this is pretty cool

Quote

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 22, 2020, 09:48:54 PM
Saw that and was impressed by it, but my next thought was something like that works well in Utah where the electorate is more homogenized. There are people, and I'm one of them, who feels politics are more of a zero sum game because of the importance of policy. For instance, potential differences on the voting rights act may not be as important in Utah or even for me in Iowa, as it is in Ohio or Georgia. I don't want to hold hands and sing kumbaya with someone who wants to limit the representation of minority communities.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
yes, agreed mir. works for 2 utah dudes.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 22, 2020, 10:38:08 PM
Fuckin mormon nerds
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on October 22, 2020, 10:39:12 PM
Might not be as relevant for governor but a utah dem should slam the crap out of pubs for the kids in cages thing, the Mormons are very immigrant-friendly
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MadCat on October 23, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF7habaTvAY[/youtube]
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 23, 2020, 07:13:12 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on October 23, 2020, 09:35:17 PM
well this is a hell of a thing.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 23, 2020, 11:29:52 PM
lol, what a rough ridin' loon.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on October 24, 2020, 09:03:03 PM
Dems are also running Texas senate ads on a national broadcast, there was an anti Cornyn ad in the tech wvu game.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on November 02, 2020, 11:39:28 AM
WTF Iowa

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 02, 2020, 11:40:56 AM
Damn. I figured Ernst was toast when she didn't even know the price of corn.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 12:19:34 PM
Damn. I figured Ernst was toast when she didn't even know the price of corn.

Hasn't been brought up since it happened. Greenfield only runs positive ads and I guess the super pacs couldn't get an ad of that turned around fast enough.

This race has always been close, swinging from R lean to D lean back to R lean is really stupid, it's a tossup, period.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on November 02, 2020, 12:36:44 PM
Wasn't Iowa considered a swing state as recently 2012?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 02, 2020, 12:48:25 PM
Wasn't Iowa considered a swing state as recently 2012?

Has been and will continue to be purple. Obama won Iowa twice, we currently have 3 of 4 dem reps, good chance that goes 4 for 4 tomorrow, tons of dem senators and governors.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 08:48:19 AM
every election i tell myself i will research the judges next time  :frown:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on November 03, 2020, 08:49:36 AM
Are republicans projected to maintain control of the senate?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 08:51:32 AM
Are republicans projected to maintain control of the senate?

No. They probably have a better shot at holding onto the senate than the white house, though.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on November 03, 2020, 08:58:50 AM
Are republicans projected to maintain control of the senate?
I think at best, the Dems get 50. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2020, 09:00:16 AM
every election i tell myself i will research the judges next time  :frown:
I vote not to retain the ones here 100% of the time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on November 03, 2020, 09:05:52 AM
every election i tell myself i will research the judges next time  :frown:
I vote not to retain the ones here 100% of the time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Same! My ballot had like 6 real things to vote on, and like 7 pages of judges for me to mush
Title: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on November 03, 2020, 09:19:37 AM
every election i tell myself i will research the judges next time  :frown:
It might be the biggest reason I think election of judges is a bad idea.

I don’t mind retention elections though. In that regard I’m definitely in the “no news is good news” camp and say let them keep judging on if I haven’t heard of them.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MadCat on November 03, 2020, 09:20:04 AM
I voted to kick the dudes and the gal named Karen.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: mocat on November 03, 2020, 09:34:38 AM
i voted based on their faces  :frown:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 09:35:08 AM
every election i tell myself i will research the judges next time  :frown:

I tried, no luck
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 03, 2020, 09:36:51 AM
I vote no on the judges when I think the governor would appoint good judges and yes on them when we have someone like Brownback in office.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on November 03, 2020, 09:39:32 AM
I vote no on the judges when I think the governor would appoint good judges and yes on them when we have someone like Brownback in office.

this is probably smart, I just leave it blank unless I know something.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 03, 2020, 09:41:16 AM
part of me thinks it would be better to have experienced judges rather than non-experienced ones but I honestly don't know. Thankfully only had to vote for one.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Gooch on November 03, 2020, 09:54:23 AM
Most of the judges up in KS voted surprisingly non-shitty in the last few big cases to come up to them so I voted to retain all but one.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Trim on November 03, 2020, 11:01:49 AM
You can watch mail-in ballot processing/counting (or fraud, if you think that!) live here:

https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/elections/about-us/security-and-accountability/watch-us-in-action.aspx
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on November 03, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
part of me thinks it would be better to have experienced judges rather than non-experienced ones but I honestly don't know. Thankfully only had to vote for one.
Experience is better, and it introduces more opportunities for corruption if there is constantly a new crop of judge candidates trying to get in good graces with the governor. There is a reason that, as political as the process is, federal lifetime appointment judges are still the most respected.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 07:14:30 PM
Moscow Mitch crushing McGrath.

That was $100 million pissed down the drain.

Sadly BidenVoter rules in California and NY so can't go after MPOS Schumer and Pelosi like that.


Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: tdaver on November 03, 2020, 07:44:37 PM
https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/letters/2020/10/19/letter-take-care-when/

I couldn’t remember which judge this was when I voted, so I voted no for all of them.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 03, 2020, 09:02:53 PM
Given the results of tonight it shouldn't come as a surprise but the underdogs appear to be losing. Graham and Coryn are projected winners and Tillis is leading a tight race.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2020, 09:06:42 PM
Is Bollier’s goose cooked?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wiley on November 03, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
Is Bollier’s goose cooked?
I would think so

Sent from my LG-LS998 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 03, 2020, 09:14:03 PM
Is Bollier’s goose cooked?
I would think so

Sent from my LG-LS998 using Tapatalk

Probably so. 538 is reporting after poll results could benefit Bollier.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 03, 2020, 09:18:45 PM
Sorry Dax, and Alabama, Tubberville is the declared winner.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
What an amazing country
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 09:25:54 PM
Given the results of tonight it shouldn't come as a surprise but the underdogs appear to be losing. Graham and Coryn are projected winners and Tillis is leading a tight race.

None of them ever polled behind, same with Mitch.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 09:39:29 PM
Sorry Dax, and Alabama, Tubberville is the declared winner.

Sorry Doug.

Regards:

Mr. and Mrs. Dax: Two non hyper partisan voters



Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 09:40:42 PM
tillis did.  he was behind in probably 90% of polls.  but yeah, the others were heavy favorites.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 03, 2020, 09:41:51 PM
$200 million pissed away in SC and KY.

That's some kind of Trump hate right there.

SMDH, sad

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 03, 2020, 10:01:24 PM
 https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/9xHE8Dbw1urCFABMpbS9 (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/9xHE8Dbw1urCFABMpbS9)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: DQ12 on November 03, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
Aaron Coleman whipping Frownfelter's ass.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 10:09:37 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2020, 10:10:52 PM
Aaron Coleman whipping Frownfelter's ass.

Mike O'Donnell won in Wichita, the voters DGAF about these white boys acting a fool.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 03, 2020, 11:44:43 PM
huh.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 12:47:59 AM
Wonder which side SD came down on.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 01:28:18 AM
huh.


30 PERCENT! FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2020, 06:43:59 AM
Wonder which side SD came down on.
I was a firm no slavery and yes gambling voter and both came through


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on November 04, 2020, 06:48:15 AM
Joco kicking that booze law's ass was nice
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 08:24:38 AM
huh.


30 PERCENT! FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK

That's got to be a little over 50% for republicans, right?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 08:29:53 AM
That GA runoff is almost certainly going Loeffler, right?  Particularly if Biden wins, I'd imagine that helps turnout for the Republicans.

Disappointed to see Fanny Fang lose in MHK.  I think she's a badass and could do well in politics long term.  After looking at it, I'm really curious as to how the county districts got drawn up as it looks batshit insane.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 08:30:29 AM
Cocaine, Meth, and Heroine was decriminalized in Oregon.

Rec weed passed in Montana, South Dakota, Arizona, and New Jersey
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 08:32:23 AM
That GA runoff is almost certainly going Loeffler, right?  Particularly if Biden wins, I'd imagine that helps turnout for the Republicans.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/yGaoeD7zvX0a_W_ibM98ShfdRYB6_jT3iY5kqNWyovXzmLv21D3On_tqNC4sR7UsowFbp4_wdhVkP-STv_-a-6A2Doih3LpBxmyEsAe6g2pNgVHpwP7vHgrZc4y_ZU7TedFuayuVvgPMw1Rdc8nIQf_MMRc7bbBI56k)

I'm not even sure yet that Ossoff will lose
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 04, 2020, 08:43:47 AM
huh.

That would not have passed in Kansas. Maybe in the 1860s, not today.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 04, 2020, 08:44:49 AM
Does Susan Collins pull out a victory?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 08:51:07 AM
Does Susan Collins pull out a victory?

Per CNN, Maine has relatively few counties reporting.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 04, 2020, 08:57:30 AM
I'm quite surprised the Senate results are what they are at this point.  The predictions seemed way off.  At one point they were talking minimum 5 flips in favor of Dems and that is just not going to happen. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:00:03 AM
Remember in Maine what you're seeing isn't what the actual vote is. If neither woman gets 50% which they almost certainly won't, they have to recount but the recount goes to ranked choice. I haven't seen any data indicating how that ranked choice will go but I have to think more Mainers hate the crap out of Collins than they do Gideon.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:00:42 AM
I'm quite surprised the Senate results are what they are at this point.  The predictions seemed way off.  At one point they were talking minimum 5 flips in favor of Dems and that is just not going to happen.

The +1 that is out there right now does not account for Mark Kelly. They still have two races in Georgia, a race in Michigan, a race in Maine, and one in NC.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 09:03:51 AM
Also remember in '18 the dems didn't win the house until the day after election day.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 04, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
Remember in Maine what you're seeing isn't what the actual vote is. If neither woman gets 50% which they almost certainly won't, they have to recount but the recount goes to ranked choice. I haven't seen any data indicating how that ranked choice will go but I have to think more Mainers hate the crap out of Collins than they do Gideon.

I had heard ranked choice voting likely would break to Gideon, wasn't sure if Collins would get the 50% or not (I think the prior guess was neither would break the 50% margin).
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on November 04, 2020, 01:09:21 PM
These pubs in Congress knew what I didn't. Trump was actually carrying them.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 04, 2020, 01:13:10 PM
Really disappointed that female Ben Sasse won.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2020, 06:19:53 PM
These pubs in Congress knew what I didn't. Trump was actually carrying them.

There was one pair of footprints in the sand...
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 07:09:00 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on November 04, 2020, 07:11:10 PM
Doesn’t that just sum it up.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 04, 2020, 11:01:39 PM
I've been thinking, the dems will end up controlling the Senate. I think they get to 49, maybe even 50. The dems in the Warnock/Loeffler race will end up receiving more votes than the republicans. I think Loeffler will be hurt by not having trump on the ballot in the runoff and Warnock is popular in Georgia. That gets the dems to 49 which is actually 51 because Bernie and Angus King are independents who caucus with Democrats. I also think that if Ossoff can manage to get enough late votes to get Perdue under 50%, Perdue will also slide a bit without trump in the runoff.

If they don't pick off either of these spots I think 50/50 will be enough to get things done because on certain issues I think they can sway Collins, Murkowski, Sasse, Toomey. The turtle won't nearly have the do nothing hammer he has wielded the last 6 years.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 06:23:52 AM
Those Georgia runoffs in January are going to be intense.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 05, 2020, 07:10:33 AM
Depending on what we are talking about, I don't know how much cross aisle support is going to be there. For example, I don't think Ben Sasse will suddenly become less fiscally conservative and I think a lot of what the Democrats want to enact have budgetary implications.

Maybe McConnell loses some grip on acting as a caucus, I don't see any indication of that. Fending off a large Senate flip could reinforce his mandate for example, and if Biden wins he wouldn't have to bargain against his own party which is easier on the messaging aspect.

Near term is more interesting re Trumps lasting footprint on the Republican party. Will Trump just browbeat Rs into a higher stimulus for example out of spite or suddenly not care much?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2020, 09:19:42 AM
Illinois voters reject tax hike.

Pubs dominate state house elections in key battle ground states, and flip one Gub seat. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 09:22:09 AM
Pubs continue to dominate local races and with redistricting coming, that doesn't seem likely to end any time soon.

Dems need to improve their weak-ass local game.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 05, 2020, 10:45:59 AM
Pubs continue to dominate local races and with redistricting coming, that doesn't seem likely to end any time soon.

Dems need to improve their weak-ass local game.

Chum had a tweet on that in the political hobbyist thread, dunno how accurate it was. Certainly one way to try and get the House of Reps.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 11:17:12 AM
That gets the dems to 49 which is actually 51 because Bernie and Angus King are independents who caucus with Democrats.

49 includes sanders and king.

right now they have 48, they would need to win both ga runoffs to get to 50.  also still a longshot for the alaska candidate to win when all the mail in ballots are included (but he's down big now).
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 05, 2020, 12:12:04 PM
Quote
David Perdue has fallen under the 50 percent threshold to avoid a runoff in Georgia’s Senate race. He’s at 49.9997 percent — 141 votes short of winning outright with more votes still to be counted from Democratic areas.

Per NYT Reid Epstein. What a margin on that.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 12:18:15 PM
Quote
David Perdue has fallen under the 50 percent threshold to avoid a runoff in Georgia’s Senate race. He’s at 49.9997 percent — 141 votes short of winning outright with more votes still to be counted from Democratic areas.

Per NYT Reid Epstein. What a margin on that.

Forgot about the potential runoff on that :love:

The amount of money about to pour into GA is going to be ridiculous.  I don't like the Dem's chances but it will be interesting to see if having Trump off the ballot helps or hurts them.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
It will be interesting to see if trump campaigns for the special elections. Common sense says yes, but also he could just say eff it and sulk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 12:30:50 PM
It will be interesting to see if trump campaigns for the special elections. Common sense says yes, but also he could just say eff it and sulk

election counts in georgia are fraudulent, i'd recommend to my followers not to participate if i were him.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 01:11:44 PM
It will be interesting to see if trump campaigns for the special elections. Common sense says yes, but also he could just say eff it and sulk

Trump will probably just hang out at Mar a Lago until January.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 01:15:08 PM
That wouldn't surprise me. I could also see him doing a few "we still love you" rallies
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 01:31:55 PM
I would guess Trump kids will turn out to GA to try to rally but Trump won't GAF.  Could be a pretty clear indication of which of his bad person offspring have political aspirations.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 01:45:02 PM
He likes the rallies, but he doesn't like most of the cities he has to go to for them. It would be interesting to see if his base abandons him once he's officially labeled as a loser, too.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 01:49:58 PM
For those Georgia runoff, on January 5th, voter registration will reopen in Georgia until the first week of December. I have no idea about potential mail in ballot dates.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on November 05, 2020, 01:53:27 PM
Joe manchin would be an automatic no on any progressive legislation
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on November 05, 2020, 02:04:09 PM
He likes the rallies, but he doesn't like most of the cities he has to go to for them. It would be interesting to see if his base abandons him once he's officially labeled as a loser, too.

He has them convinced he really didn't lose.  Moderates and some party leadership may abandon him but his base never will.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 02:06:13 PM
Those truck decals are a pain to remove
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 02:08:52 PM
the moderate-progressive split didn't mean much in the house over the last two years, because trump.  with a smaller caucus and a less salient common enemy, things could heat up.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 02:14:25 PM
He likes the rallies, but he doesn't like most of the cities he has to go to for them. It would be interesting to see if his base abandons him once he's officially labeled as a loser, too.

He has them convinced he really didn't lose.  Moderates and some party leadership may abandon him but his base never will.

At some point, they are going to start believing he lost. They will still decorate their truck like he won, just like Texas A&M does with Kyle Field, but none of them will really believe it, and I think most of them aren't going to be that interested in going to a Trump rally.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
yeah, it's hard to sustain a sports-like fanship for a politician not in office and not campaigning for anything.  like, there's no games.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 03:25:07 PM
Or they'll go for the same reason they went in 2015. Support their future nominee of choice.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 04:04:14 PM
None of these people went to rallies before Trump. A lot of them didn't even vote.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 04:05:52 PM
He's going to run again. Hopefully republicans narrowly reject him and he goes 3rd party
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Cire on November 05, 2020, 04:38:37 PM
I bet he’s dead in four years


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 04:48:17 PM
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 05:46:56 PM
Joe manchin would be an automatic no on any progressive legislation

You are truly a dipshit, dumb troll clown.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 05:50:01 PM
He's going to run again. Hopefully republicans narrowly reject him and he goes 3rd party

If the ‘rona couldn’t kill him he may live to 100
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 05:54:22 PM
the moderate-progressive split didn't mean much in the house over the last two years, because trump.  with a smaller caucus and a less salient common enemy, things could heat up.


LOL, why is Abigail acting like this is her first election? Defunding the police was never part of any platform anywhere, it was an activist talking point that the pubs used against the dems, that crap happens every single election. I'm guessing the reason she was in a close election has less to do about what activists say and think and more about she's the type to blame others for her nearly losing.

These idiots making policy decisions based on what mean ads the super pacs will run is exactly why they, unlike republicans, have spent the last 30 years not getting dick done.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2020, 05:56:12 PM
He's going to run again. Hopefully republicans narrowly reject him and he goes 3rd party

No chance. There will be trump republicans that will run though, certainly a woman, someone like Sarah Sanders.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 05:56:50 PM
I'm 100% certain Ivanka will run
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2020, 06:25:36 PM
I figured it would be Nikki Haley
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 06:42:38 PM
I'm guessing the reason she was in a close election has less to do about what activists say and think and more about she's the type to blame others for her nearly losing.

it was a close election because she represents a (slightly) red district.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 06:45:14 PM
it was a close election because she represents a (slightly) red district.

also, she's been in congress for two years.  she's no more responsible for not getting dick done than omar is.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 05, 2020, 06:49:11 PM
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.

Increased access to voting helped Democrats, imo. I mean, you had a month to vote. I don't think this many people will be able to vote in 2 or 4 years.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 06:56:02 PM
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.

Increased access to voting helped Democrats, imo. I mean, you had a month to vote. I don't think this many people will be able to vote in 2 or 4 years.

It's really hard to say it helped the democrats more than the repulicans.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 05, 2020, 07:01:51 PM
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.

Increased access to voting helped Democrats, imo. I mean, you had a month to vote. I don't think this many people will be able to vote in 2 or 4 years.

It's really hard to say it helped the democrats more than the repulicans.

You think all of those democrats would have showed up on election day? This was the most free, most fair election in the countries history.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on November 05, 2020, 07:05:12 PM
Joe manchin would be an automatic no on any progressive legislation

You are truly a dipshit, dumb troll clown.

You disagree??  WV is red by a huge margin.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on November 05, 2020, 07:07:22 PM
Also, you’re a crazy person and should seek help
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 05, 2020, 07:10:05 PM
I'm guessing the reason she was in a close election has less to do about what activists say and think and more about she's the type to blame others for her nearly losing.

it was a close election because she represents a (slightly) red district.

Off topic, still enjoy the county of Goochland   :Keke:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2020, 07:21:09 PM
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.

Increased access to voting helped Democrats, imo. I mean, you had a month to vote. I don't think this many people will be able to vote in 2 or 4 years.

It's really hard to say it helped the democrats more than the repulicans.

You think all of those democrats would have showed up on election day? This was the most free, most fair election in the countries history.

No, but the repulicans wouldn't have, either.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 05, 2020, 07:39:43 PM
When it comes to turnout, I don't think there is a good way to isolate this, but how much did Democrats ceding a ground game(door to door, in person) to Republicans alter things?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2020, 08:49:48 PM
no idea if these people are up for election or anything but what a world

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 05, 2020, 09:00:08 PM
I think Trump's base is fool's gold, anyway. Pursuing them probably helps the republicans keep the senate, but the presidency is always going to be a long shot if they plan on continuing to run somebody who doesn't have the slightest prayer of winning the popular vote. It feels like Trump came close in this one, but really by late Tuesday it was apparent that the odds were not in his favor at all. Planning on winning the number of close states that their current strategy requires is like betting a parlay.

Increased access to voting helped Democrats, imo. I mean, you had a month to vote. I don't think this many people will be able to vote in 2 or 4 years.

It's really hard to say it helped the democrats more than the repulicans.

You think all of those democrats would have showed up on election day? This was the most free, most fair election in the countries history.

No, but the repulicans wouldn't have, either.

I think it favors democrats.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2020, 09:03:36 PM
no idea if these people are up for election or anything but what a world


That dude has a long history of getting caught and re-elected
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 05, 2020, 09:09:03 PM
rumors that gp bush is going to kill and bury him next election.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2020, 10:43:23 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on November 05, 2020, 10:50:42 PM
Gross keeps saying that he's going to win. Sure would be nice.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 03:55:37 AM
I'm guessing the reason she was in a close election has less to do about what activists say and think and more about she's the type to blame others for her nearly losing.

it was a close election because she represents a (slightly) red district.

I think you need to tell Abby Spanbarger this, she's the one blaming activists, not me.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 04:12:11 AM
Joe manchin would be an automatic no on any progressive legislation

You are truly a dipshit, dumb troll clown.

You disagree??  WV is red by a huge margin.

Of course I agree, you idiot. I called you a dipshit because your point was basic and overly simplistic. Yet, you somehow made it worse by saying that he will vote that way because "WV is red by a huge margin." They've had two Republican senators and two Republican governors the last 40 years, that's the same as Massachusetts.

Everyone reading this board knows that Manchin is a centrist. I'm interested in what you consider "progressive legislation" though. Do you really think a man who represents one of the poorest states in the country, with notoriously limited and expensive access to healthcare would vote no on a public option?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2020, 06:53:08 AM
Also, you’re a crazy person and should seek help
1000% correct
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on November 06, 2020, 07:32:17 AM
?s=20
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on November 06, 2020, 07:38:02 AM
?s=20
Pretty good!
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2020, 07:57:09 AM
BRB moving to Georgia
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2020, 07:59:08 AM
i think it would be stressful to live in a state where your vote mattered

what a terrible burden
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
i think it would be stressful to live in a state where your vote mattered

what a terrible burden

it actually rules
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 09:54:21 AM
I'm guessing the reason she was in a close election has less to do about what activists say and think and more about she's the type to blame others for her nearly losing.

it was a close election because she represents a (slightly) red district.

I think you need to tell Abby Spanbarger this, she's the one blaming activists, not me.
AOC not having it


Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on November 06, 2020, 10:31:27 AM
Kelly wins AZ
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 10:44:54 AM
Lol

?s=19
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 06, 2020, 11:34:37 AM
What's the insistence on slogans? Tacit acknowledgement that we all have ADD and respond to trolling?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 03:11:58 PM
it would be great if we could get all prominent dem politicians together and force them to listen to david shor for an hour or two (i definitely include beto in that group, love the guy, but some of his theories of change are empirically wrong).

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 03:34:41 PM
it would be great if we could get all prominent dem politicians together and force them to listen to david shor for an hour or two (i definitely include beto in that group, love the guy, but some of his theories of change are empirically wrong).


AOC posting what "defund the police" means to her on an IG story is a bit of a stretch example. If anything she's listening to him by not making it a central issue, but she's able to do that without completely alienating activists who support it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 03:38:48 PM
Also, this is a pretty bad take. Plenty of moral issues start off being unpopular with the general public

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 04:02:16 PM
Also, this is a pretty bad take. Plenty of moral issues start off being unpopular with the general public


shor has presented evidence that politicians taking up unpopular causes (that are slowly gaining in popularity) not only risks electoral consequence but slows the progress of the cause by making it partisan.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 04:18:50 PM
Also, this is a pretty bad take. Plenty of moral issues start off being unpopular with the general public


shor has presented evidence that politicians taking up unpopular causes (that are slowly gaining in popularity) not only risks electoral consequence but slows the progress of the cause by making it partisan.

I'm sure he has. However I think he underestimates the ability of human politicians to communicate with other humans with some degree of nuance.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 04:22:59 PM
i think he's suggesting that they should do exactly that.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 04:24:43 PM
i think he's suggesting that the should do that.
That's what AOC is doing. He's suggesting she has a moral obligation completely disown "defund the police" activists, which I'm not even sure are that prevalent right now.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 06, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Naming a movement "defund the police" doesn't allow for much nuance. If you want to have a conversation about nuance, you should come up with a better name.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 04:47:57 PM
That's what AOC is doing. He's suggesting she has a moral obligation completely disown "defund the police" activists, which I'm not even sure are that prevalent right now.

yeah, i think his idea of a nuanced communication is more along the lines of "of course i don't want to defund the police, our communities need to be protected, we need effective and fair police forces, and by the way, most police officers are fair, but we also need to end this practice of xxxx and reform yyyy and hold law enforcement accountable for zzzz" that most dem pols used and not so much "let me explain to you idiots why defund doesn't mean defund".

that this slogan has already mostly died out on it's own in like four months should serve as evidence of how flawed it was.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 04:48:26 PM
Naming a movement "defund the police" doesn't allow for much nuance. If you want to have a conversation about nuance, you should come up with a better name.
Yes. This is why AOC, a very smart politician, never says it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 04:50:59 PM
That's what AOC is doing. He's suggesting she has a moral obligation completely disown "defund the police" activists, which I'm not even sure are that prevalent right now.

yeah, i think his idea of a nuanced communication is more along the lines of "of course i don't want to defund the police, our communities need to be protected, we need effective and fair police forces, and by the way, most police officers are fair, but we also need to end this practice of xxxx and reform yyyy and hold law enforcement accountable for zzzz" that most dem pols used and not so much "let me explain to you idiots why defund doesn't mean defund".

I don't think so, he's a robot
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 04:56:07 PM
This is why AOC, a very smart politician, never says it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/505307-ocasio-cortez-dismisses-proposed-1b-cut-defunding-police-means-defunding
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 06, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
Sys have you seen any Shor polling takes yet? Saw some graph on his Twitter but wasn't very explanatory.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 06, 2020, 05:09:43 PM


This is why AOC, a very smart politician, never says it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/505307-ocasio-cortez-dismisses-proposed-1b-cut-defunding-police-means-defunding

It's nowhere on her Twitter, shor had to find a screenshot of an IG story, and I can't find the full statement anywhere. Also "Never" was said with nuance.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 06, 2020, 05:24:08 PM
Sys have you seen any Shor polling takes yet? Saw some graph on his Twitter but wasn't very explanatory.

i haven't seen him comment post election but before the election he was pushing the idea that 2016 polling error was due to non-response bias from low social trust individuals and that he didn't think weighting for education was sufficient to correct that bias.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2020, 08:00:30 PM
My God, this is a reminder of why I hate democrats. There's a debate about a 31 year old democrat having actual beliefs that a lot of democrats her age has. She hasn't been jaded by Washington yet and these dumb fucks can't handle it.

Republicans embrace some wildly radical positions and own them. No one thinks the military should be funded at the levels in which we do. No one is in favor of the border separation policy. No one wants to lose their social security. No one wants federal minimum wage to sit at $7.25. Abolishing of Roe vs. Wade is a radical position. Removing protections for pre-existing conditions is a radical position. On and on and on. The problem with the democratic party is exactly what the republicans say it is. It's a party in which the decision makers are white, comfortable, elitist eggheads, completely out of touch with what people actually want. It's a party with no soul and that's exactly what they want, their policy is driven by pollsters and beltway policy wonks. I swear to god, I'll never vote for a bland, moderate, safe democrat ever ever again. If Stephen Miller ran for president and I had the ability to either tie or break a tie for the whole thing between him and a moderate dem, I'm writing in Fred Hampton Jr.

If this leads to 4 more years of Obama era leadership, I will spend the rest of my natural life hoping for the demise of the democratic party.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on November 06, 2020, 08:31:04 PM
I hear you brother.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 07, 2020, 08:52:00 AM
Quote
Speaker Nancy Pelosi has so far lost seven incumbents in Tuesday’s election, and that number could increase to about a dozen as more votes are tallied in New York, California and Utah. That would leave Democrats with a razor-thin margin — and an even more emboldened GOP minority — as the party looks to govern under a potential President Joe Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/06/house-dems-losses-434783
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 07, 2020, 12:34:34 PM
honestly, it's hard to care when they don't have the senate.  oh, it's gonna be harder to pass messaging bills?  who gives a eff.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on November 07, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Well you can bet a Republican house would hemorrhage money investigating Burisma for literally as long as they’re in control.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2020, 01:06:36 PM
Another screed.  Amazing
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 09, 2020, 12:11:05 AM
most of the senate races were doomed when biden's support ended up being 3-4 points behind the polling average.  but maine is totally different.  amazing overperformance by collins.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 09, 2020, 12:14:47 AM
also golden, the dem congressperson for me2, won fairly easily.  maine is a tiny corner of america still ticket splitting like it's 1984.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 09, 2020, 01:26:00 PM
Maine is one of those places small enough where familiarity matters. What you can and have done for the state is much less important than waffling on national matters. I have no doubt that Collins is getting votes from democrats who didn't care about impeachment or supreme court nominees.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on November 09, 2020, 01:46:38 PM
Finally looked into Alaska. Maybe GA for whatever reason loses turnout disproportionately only on one side without Trump on the ticket.

Quote
It’s a relatively safe bet that the registered Republicans voted for Sullivan, Shuckerow said, “so if you look at the remaining votes, Al Gross and his team would have to pull nearly 98% of the remaining votes.”

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/11/09/alaska-us-senate-race-gross-trails-sullivan-but-says-math-is-in-his-favor/
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 12, 2020, 10:52:20 PM
ladies and gentlemen, we have a new dumbest senator.




Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2020, 11:08:05 PM
lmao AL, what are you doing


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2020, 11:12:16 PM
CTT = Coach Tommy Tuberville?

sweet jesus
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2020, 08:42:21 AM
Welcome to nearly 2 weeks ago cRusty the CoronaBro.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 13, 2020, 05:45:01 PM
good article.

the answer to the question weigel poses is fairly self-evident.  the good news is that it will easy and painless to stop associating with protests and activists when they are protesting while a democrat holds the white house; the incentives all align.

the test will be the next time a republican controls the presidency.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2020, 10:54:46 PM
I really think the dems are risking looking like they are running from black people right back into the arms of the their safe, monied corporate mommies and daddies.

I listen to several black hosted political and pop culture podcasts and this sentiment is really starting take hold, leading to real apprehension with the democratic party and the Biden administration. I really don't think the democrats will actually listen though.

This is one that I listen to, it's very informative but entertaining, if you're interested. No policy wonks or eggheads with models, just two funny, but well read black men discussing the state of the democratic party and black people.

Quote
BOMM: Black Opinions Matter
Woke Bros: ‘Clapback’
Wos and Nando return to begin discussing the next steps following the 2020 presidential election. The guys discuss the huge upcoming senate election in Georgia, talk about AOC not backing down to other dems and they breakdown the possible ramifications of President-Elect Joe Biden’s cabinet selections. Produced by: Rob Lopez

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/woke-bros-clapback/id1438653513?i=1000498269549
or
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wV51dGM95ohqsU808whJt
or
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS9oOERrX0NVNA/episode/ZTQ5ZWIyODEtMjZkMy00MmY1LWFlOWQtM2YzNzlkOTE5OTVm
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 13, 2020, 11:05:31 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 14, 2020, 01:23:35 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: dal9 on November 14, 2020, 10:07:13 PM
ah, dril, you got to hand it to him
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2020, 03:15:42 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 16, 2020, 03:45:48 PM
Yikes, that dude looks right out of the Hitler youth casting department
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: dal9 on November 16, 2020, 04:36:44 PM
Yikes, that dude looks right out of the Hitler youth casting department
except for being crippled
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2020, 04:40:12 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
 :sdeek:

Wonder how Tubbs would've reacted if it was a football game and Doug Jones decided to head into the locker room instead of shake his hands, bet he'd yuck it up at the ol presser
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on November 16, 2020, 04:41:58 PM
Invalid Tweet ID

aoc does lose me a bit on student debt but there ya have it
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2020, 05:38:31 PM
Yikes, that dude looks right out of the Hitler youth casting department
except for being crippled

Who's crippled?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on November 16, 2020, 05:49:01 PM
Yikes, that dude looks right out of the Hitler youth casting department
except for being crippled

Who's crippled?

Madison Cawthorn
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
Yikes, that dude looks right out of the Hitler youth casting department
except for being crippled

Who's crippled?

Madison Cawthorn

Didn't even know he was paralyzed until now, lots of cropped photos of the dude.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 16, 2020, 06:53:49 PM
Invalid Tweet ID

Aoc doesn’t work in healthcare.  She’s volunteering healthcare workers to work for less money so that she can get votes.  She has zero skin in the game and is benefitting from the work of others.  She’s like a self-righteous version of Jeff bezos except she put a lot less work in to get where she’s at and you uphold her as some sort of humanitarian savior.  It’s pathetic.

she doesn't work in the oil and gas industry either. shameful
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on November 16, 2020, 06:57:04 PM
Thanks for that mich
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2020, 08:23:16 PM
Thanks for that mich

If I posted something that stupid, I would have deleted it too. It's a good thing I don't have to bear the burden of stupidity.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on November 16, 2020, 08:52:41 PM
Thanks for that mich

If I posted something that stupid, I would have deleted it too. It's a good thing I don't have to bear the burden of stupidity.

Everything i said is true but I can’t be engaging in political arguments with strangers on the internet.  It’s a fruitless endeavor.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: dal9 on November 16, 2020, 09:53:05 PM
what? that tweet was hilarious....
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2020, 12:25:16 AM
Apparently not for super serious kim carnes who needed 100 words to express displeasure with a joke tweet using hyperbole.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2020, 11:25:08 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Cire on November 17, 2020, 11:36:08 AM
Unconfirmed that Madison Crawthorn was elated to be in the place that they voted on the Emancipation Proclamation because he's such a big history guy.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2020, 12:50:06 PM

Splitting out the congressional district, that's cute.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2020, 12:51:12 PM
Unconfirmed that Madison Crawthorn was elated to be in the place that they voted on the Emancipation Proclamation because he's such a big history guy.

Was hilarious, and I'm sure he's 100% impervious to any criticism he's received for saying that.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2020, 01:06:16 PM
I'd like to visit the Eagle's Nest. I don't think it's racist to want to go there. It's very weird that he referred to Hitler as "The Fuhrer," though. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that he's a Nazi, but I haven't seen enough evidence to declare him one at this point.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2020, 01:19:32 PM
Setting up a website to attack a journalist for "working for non-whites to help destroy white male candidates" is enough for me
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 17, 2020, 01:22:42 PM
I'd like to visit the Eagle's Nest. I don't think it's racist to want to go there. It's very weird that he referred to Hitler as "The Fuhrer," though. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that he's a Nazi, but I haven't seen enough evidence to declare him one at this point.

Publicly calling hitler the fuhrer and saying the phrase "Jewish blood running through your blood" while trying to literally convert Jews and Muslims to Christianity is enough for me to brand him an antisemite at the very least. And that's giving him credit for naming his business SPQR Holdings, as the world's most unfortunate coincidences, although he didn't change the name.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2020, 01:53:17 PM
OK, I didn't know about all of that other stuff. I only knew about the tweet with the selfie at Hitler's vacation home.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
Yikes, that dude looks right out of the Hitler youth casting department
except for being crippled

Who's crippled?

Madison Cawthorn
lmao



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on November 17, 2020, 05:30:53 PM
classic dril
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on November 25, 2020, 05:57:07 PM
brindisi was down like 28-29k votes before they counted the absentees.  crazy.


the downside to this enjoyable drama is that the good voters of ny22 (and ia02) are probably going to be without representation in the house for like 3 months while they recount and file lawsuits and crap.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2020, 10:22:11 PM
brindisi was down like 28-29k votes before they counted the absentees.  crazy.


the downside to this enjoyable drama is that the good voters of ny22 (and ia02) are probably going to be without representation in the house for like 3 months while they recount and file lawsuits and crap.


They just said today that they are going to certify IA-2 on Monday, they have to by law, but I don't know how that will even be possible. They have not done any hand recounts, the ones they have done have all been machine recounts.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2020, 03:49:51 PM
Iowa 2 is down to 6 votes and is still slated for certification tomorrow, Rita Hart, the dems down 6 votes, has not filed a lawsuit yet, though I imagine it's coming. One county has an unaccounted for 131 vote discrepancy and another had a machine breakdown during the recount but the recount wasn't restarted.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 01, 2020, 01:49:36 AM


unrelated to the tweet above, the ny22 race has swung back to the republican by 13 votes.  pending recount, of course.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2020, 03:57:22 AM
The Iowa race was certified, Hart has 48 hours to contest it.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on December 01, 2020, 09:41:01 AM
Well, this would hurt a lot if Trumpers buy in.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on December 01, 2020, 09:48:02 AM
False flag planted by George Soros.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: ChiComCat on December 01, 2020, 10:04:53 AM
I've seen stories where Republicans are worried about turnout since "it's rigged anyways"

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
I think Republicans not showing up without trump on the ballot was always going to be an issue in those races.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on December 01, 2020, 12:11:42 PM
There are "boycott voting" threads all over texags,we'll see if anything actually comes of it. They are megamaga pissed at literally everyone in Georgia
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MadCat on December 01, 2020, 01:10:06 PM
I mean, why bother voting?  Let the Dems have their stupid seats.  I didn't want to play anyway. :don'tcare:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 01, 2020, 01:25:50 PM
Well, this would hurt a lot if Trumpers buy in.

It will be interesting to see how loyalty to Trump is used as an issue in Republican primaries in 2022 and 2024. May be one (among several) reasons that Republicans are largely silent on Trump's attempts to undermine the results of the election.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Cire on December 02, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
Trumps going to Grift tens/hundreds? of millions of dollars away from other pub candidates and quid pro quo them into getting some.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2020, 11:26:16 PM
Saw this while looking at the Crenshaw stuff. This is an embarrassment, this country isn't a democracy and never has been.
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on December 03, 2020, 11:30:25 PM
Most disappointing Supreme Court decision in recent memory.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 03, 2020, 11:49:08 PM
the funny thing is that the crenshaw district looks bad, but because the suburbs have moved left pretty hard over the last ten years, it's actually now pretty competitive.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on December 04, 2020, 08:08:55 AM
reminded me of this good tweet

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on December 04, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2Tc29.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2020, 09:19:27 PM
reminded me of this good tweet


lol
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2020, 09:25:09 PM

The dems backed all of these milquetoast moderates that they could use to raise a ton of money and not scare suburbanites, and it was by all accounts a failed experiment. In many cases, not Gideon obviously, they lost to non moderate, right wing, MAGA embracing republicans. Do you think the DNC learned anything about this strategy or will we be talking about them losing their very slim majority (If they're lucky) in two years?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 04, 2020, 09:37:30 PM
non-milquetoast moderates generally did even worse.  everyone lost.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on December 04, 2020, 09:39:18 PM

The dems backed all of these milquetoast moderates that they could use to raise a ton of money and not scare suburbanites, and it was by all accounts a failed experiment. In many cases, not Gideon obviously, they lost to non moderate, right wing, MAGA embracing republicans. Do you think the DNC learned anything about this strategy or will we be talking about them losing their very slim majority (If they're lucky) in two years?

Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your claim that the reason democrats weren’t successful is bc they aren’t liberal enough?  Bc you look crazy.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2020, 09:59:23 PM
non-milquetoast moderates generally did even worse.  everyone lost.

No such thing
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 04, 2020, 10:04:56 PM
No such thing

there were lots of house candidates.  also the tennessee senate candidate.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2020, 10:07:57 PM

The dems backed all of these milquetoast moderates that they could use to raise a ton of money and not scare suburbanites, and it was by all accounts a failed experiment. In many cases, not Gideon obviously, they lost to non moderate, right wing, MAGA embracing republicans. Do you think the DNC learned anything about this strategy or will we be talking about them losing their very slim majority (If they're lucky) in two years?

Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your claim that the reason democrats weren’t successful is bc they aren’t liberal enough?  Bc you look crazy.

No, I'm not, because you continue to oversimplify the conversation. I didn't say a damn thing about "not being liberal enough." I've showed you exit polls more than once that showed many of the issues that corporate dems run from are widely accepted by liberals, moderates, and in some cases conservatives, I won't do it again. I'm not going to waste my time convincing some brain dead anonymous internet poster that speaking to policy other than "we're not MAGA" isn't some far left concept. We're taking senate here but to my point

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2020, 10:09:17 PM
No such thing

there were lots of house candidates.  also the tennessee senate candidate.

Moderates who ran on policy stances not roundly adopted by the DNC?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 04, 2020, 10:13:13 PM
No such thing

there were lots of house candidates.  also the tennessee senate candidate.

Moderates who ran on policy stances not roundly adopted by the DNC?

oh, my phrasing was confusing.  i was saying that there were lots of candidates that were not "milquetoast moderates" not that there were lots of moderate candidates that were non milquetoast.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2020, 10:14:52 PM
No such thing

there were lots of house candidates.  also the tennessee senate candidate.

Moderates who ran on policy stances not roundly adopted by the DNC?

oh, my phrasing was confusing.  i was saying that there were lots of candidates that were not "milquetoast moderates" not that there were lots of moderate candidates that were non milquetoast.

Yes, agreed
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on December 04, 2020, 11:13:31 PM

The dems backed all of these milquetoast moderates that they could use to raise a ton of money and not scare suburbanites, and it was by all accounts a failed experiment. In many cases, not Gideon obviously, they lost to non moderate, right wing, MAGA embracing republicans. Do you think the DNC learned anything about this strategy or will we be talking about them losing their very slim majority (If they're lucky) in two years?

Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your claim that the reason democrats weren’t successful is bc they aren’t liberal enough?  Bc you look crazy.

No, I'm not, because you continue to oversimplify the conversation. I didn't say a damn thing about "not being liberal enough." I've showed you exit polls more than once that showed many of the issues that corporate dems run from are widely accepted by liberals, moderates, and in some cases conservatives, I won't do it again. I'm not going to waste my time convincing some brain dead anonymous internet poster that speaking to policy other than "we're not MAGA" isn't some far left concept. We're taking senate here but to my point


I think what you’re trying to say is no you don’t have any evidence.  You were pushing that exit poll garbage in the primaries as the candidate promoting those policies got obliterated by biden.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 04, 2020, 11:51:01 PM
kind of a fun quiz you can take to test how well you understand public opinion on a few issues.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/sanders-poll-quiz/
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2020, 12:00:29 AM
kind of a fun quiz you can take to test how well you understand public opinion on a few issues.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/sanders-poll-quiz/

I was shocked more people support free college than Medicare for all. Was pretty close on the rest.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 05, 2020, 12:15:00 AM
I was shocked more people support free college than Medicare for all. Was pretty close on the rest.

shor is always saying that candidates should just talk about education nonstop.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2020, 12:49:48 AM

The dems backed all of these milquetoast moderates that they could use to raise a ton of money and not scare suburbanites, and it was by all accounts a failed experiment. In many cases, not Gideon obviously, they lost to non moderate, right wing, MAGA embracing republicans. Do you think the DNC learned anything about this strategy or will we be talking about them losing their very slim majority (If they're lucky) in two years?

Do you have a single shred of evidence to support your claim that the reason democrats weren’t successful is bc they aren’t liberal enough?  Bc you look crazy.

No, I'm not, because you continue to oversimplify the conversation. I didn't say a damn thing about "not being liberal enough." I've showed you exit polls more than once that showed many of the issues that corporate dems run from are widely accepted by liberals, moderates, and in some cases conservatives, I won't do it again. I'm not going to waste my time convincing some brain dead anonymous internet poster that speaking to policy other than "we're not MAGA" isn't some far left concept. We're taking senate here but to my point


I think what you’re trying to say is no you don’t have any evidence.  You were pushing that exit poll garbage in the primaries as the candidate promoting those policies got obliterated by biden.

[redacted] I posted the fox news exit polls from the general election a month ago.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2020, 12:57:33 AM
kind of a fun quiz you can take to test how well you understand public opinion on a few issues.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/sanders-poll-quiz/

The only one I fell out of the margin of error on was M4A and I missed that one by almost 20%. Their polling data on that one doesn't match a few exit polls from the general. I'm guessing that public opinion hasn't shifted that much in a year, but maybe the pandemic has changed people's minds.

Personally I still favor a public option over M4A. M4A still doesn't address how we would deal with the destruction of a multi trillion dollar industry that employs tens, if not hundreds of thousand people.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on December 05, 2020, 07:19:47 AM
I was shocked more people support free college than Medicare for all. Was pretty close on the rest.

shor is always saying that candidates should just talk about education nonstop.

Along the same lines, dunno if other polls back this up, but makes sense to me.

Quote
8 in 10 voters back a proposal to offer optional public pre-K to all 3- and 4-year old children in the country
Support for optional public pre-K crosses party lines with 90 percent of Democrats supporting this idea along with three-quarters of independents and 72 percent of Republicans. Nearly 9 in 10 parents support this idea as do 8 in 10 of those without children.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/early-childhood/reports/2020/09/25/490772/voters-want-child-care-ahead-2020-elections/
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on December 05, 2020, 11:45:29 PM
The Medicare 4 all one was the only one I missed by a wide margin and it is stupid because the polling on that has been all over the place depending upon the wording.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on December 07, 2020, 08:46:33 AM
Anecdotal, jmo I don't think the mixed messages will hurt turnout too much on the R side. As the article states, could be close enough that any marginal shift is really important. My guess is the argument that Pence states is convincing enough(don't let the radical left win and destroy good ole USA!).

Quote
“I know we’ve all got our doubts about the last election. And I actually hear some people saying, ‘Just don’t vote,’” Pence said at a rally here on Friday. “My fellow Americans, if you don’t vote, they win.”

...

 But conservative groups are also galvanized. In a series of door knocks in Valdosta over the course of 90 minutes the morning after Trump’s rally, a half-dozen Georgians who answered the door for an operative with Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity affirmed their plans to vote, most of them enthusiastically.

“I don’t think I’ve knocked on a single door where people said, 'I like David Perdue, but it’s not going to matter, so why bother?'” said Greg Conterio, who was in the state from AFP’s Florida team to aid the canvassing efforts.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/07/republicans-prod-base-georgia-runoffs-443403
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on December 07, 2020, 08:54:45 AM
I was high on border crossings and reparations, and way low on wealth tax.  Everything else I was right on.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 07, 2020, 01:09:13 PM
Anecdotal, jmo I don't think the mixed messages will hurt turnout too much on the R side.

yeah, they'll vote.  it's just like people believe in heaven, but they don't try to die quicker to get there.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 08, 2020, 11:53:04 AM
unbelievable.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: wetwillie on December 08, 2020, 11:58:59 AM
For those of us who don’t follow this stuff what does it mean exactly?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 08, 2020, 12:06:38 PM
For those of us who don’t follow this stuff what does it mean exactly?

big picture it means that 7 of 8 counties in some rando ny district totally mumped up their election canvass and a judge rightfully held them up to public ridicule.

in electoral terms it means that the dem is likely to win although without knowing where the uncounted ballots came from and why they weren't counted, it's not a sure thing.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on December 08, 2020, 12:12:01 PM
For those of us who don’t follow this stuff what does it mean exactly?

Trump wins NY!
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Kat Kid on December 12, 2020, 10:13:08 AM
Is there any chance the dems win 1 or both of the GA senate races?  I'm giving it a zero percent chance.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 12, 2020, 11:19:29 AM
Is there any chance the dems win 1 or both of the GA senate races?  I'm giving it a zero percent chance.

yeah, decent chance.  under 50%, i think, but pretty decent.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on December 12, 2020, 11:26:06 AM
I don't see it happening, some polls say they're both close, but I don't really have a very informed opinion on it tbh.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 12, 2020, 11:29:04 AM
we just had an election a month ago where each side gathered enough votes to win the upcoming election.  it's just a matter of who can get a few % more of the same people that just voted for them to come back out again.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on December 13, 2020, 08:21:25 PM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on December 15, 2020, 10:12:59 AM
Quote
So far in the 2020 runoff election, 482,792 people have voted.
At this point in the 2020 general election, that number was 633,990.
Total turnout for the 2020 runoff election is -24% lower.
The voting method breakdown is 314,499 (-37%) mail ballots and 168,293 (+23%) early votes.

http://georgiavotes.com/
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: LickNeckey on December 15, 2020, 10:33:44 AM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I love how Pubs now just openly admit that they can't win without massive disenfranchisement efforts
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 18, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on December 18, 2020, 11:28:43 AM
I actually thought a lot of those responses were fair since she really wanted to focus on her campaign instead of Biden, but she just crumbled when that guy asked if she thought not recognizing Biden as president elect would hurt her.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on December 29, 2020, 04:21:54 PM
good summary of why people are becoming increasingly bullish on dem chances in ga.  either republican voters are increasingly waiting until election day or they just aren't going to vote.  turnout was about 5 m (1 m eday) in the ge, so turnout is way down compared to the ge on both sides.



Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on December 29, 2020, 06:59:52 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if republicans lost considering trump is doing everything he can to ensure that they do.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 01:02:35 PM
What does everyone think is going to happen in GA?  I'm going with the thought that the Pubs will win but maybe they'll surprise me.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on January 05, 2021, 01:24:30 PM
I think it’s split


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on January 05, 2021, 01:59:31 PM
Both seats are going D
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on January 05, 2021, 02:01:28 PM
Ossoff follows dril on Twitter


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2021, 02:02:36 PM
Split or pubs. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 05, 2021, 02:23:28 PM
What does everyone think is going to happen in GA?  I'm going with the thought that the Pubs will win but maybe they'll surprise me.

i think dems are more likely to win, but i have low confidence in that prediction.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 02:23:45 PM
I'd bet on a split, if only because I think Loeffler is so unpalatable. Mildly shocked if pubs win both, really shocked if dems win both, and boy will maga lose their goddamn minds if that happens.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on January 05, 2021, 02:38:26 PM
I'd say split, but then I come back and think isn't it more likely that one party sweeps both seats?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 05, 2021, 02:40:30 PM
I'd say split, but then I come back and think isn't it more likely that one party sweeps both seats?

yeah, a split seems pretty unlikely to me.  the races would need to be very close.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2021, 02:48:35 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Looks like Trump thinks the dems will win.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 05, 2021, 06:21:37 PM
based on election day turnout reports, i now think the republicans are more likely to win.  imo, if eday turnout is over 1.1 m or so, it favors the republicans.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2021, 06:55:56 PM
There are too many variables that are working out different from the general election for me to even try to make a guess that turns out to be wrong.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 07:10:27 PM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 07:15:10 PM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on January 05, 2021, 07:16:26 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/georgia-senate-election-results/

538 is optimistic for D's based on margins in counties where 95% of votes have been counted.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2021, 07:27:41 PM
GA rural whites turning out more for Trump than for non-Trump Rs is a thing that makes sense.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 07:33:02 PM
STOP THE COUNTING!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 07:40:42 PM
STOP THE COUNTING!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

someone should @ that to trump, but nah, keep it going, going to make it look so much sweeter.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 07:42:33 PM
I'd bet on a split, if only because I think Loeffler is so unpalatable. Mildly shocked if pubs win both, really shocked if dems win both, and boy will maga lose their goddamn minds if that happens.

Revising to still think split, really shocked if pubs win both, mildly shocked if dems win both.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 05, 2021, 08:32:27 PM
I watched for 5 minutes after the basketball game ended, saw the update that put both races at 50/50, got pissed and turned to the UT flood aggie game..
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2021, 08:38:21 PM
Looking like an easy dem sweep, given what's left to count.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2021, 08:42:34 PM
 :excited:

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 08:52:08 PM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: kim carnes on January 05, 2021, 08:56:23 PM
this was over before it ever got started given what transpired over the last month
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 05, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
based on election day turnout reports, i now think the republicans are more likely to win.  imo, if eday turnout is over 1.1 m or so, it favors the republicans.

well that was too low.  probably closer to 1.35m.  impressive eday turnout by dems.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on January 05, 2021, 09:16:25 PM
So Biden might get to pick his cabinet :surprised:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 09:19:10 PM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2021, 09:29:29 PM
 :excited:

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on January 05, 2021, 09:33:12 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 09:34:57 PM
He just read that the Dekalb Co was about to report 171k ish votes, what a baby
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 09:35:42 PM
And by read, was told by his henchmen
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2021, 10:12:08 PM
I don’t think Dems have enough ya’ll.  I’m sticking to split or both Republicans.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 10:16:23 PM
I don’t think Dems have enough ya’ll.  I’m sticking to split or both Republicans.
You’re alone on that island, bud.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on January 05, 2021, 10:17:23 PM
Both of you act like you aren't aware of the huge dump about to happen in Dekalb Cnty...
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:27:21 PM
The lack of personnel and computing processing power in greater Atlanta ballot counting is very interesting given the relative technical prowess, networking power, human resources and computing capacity available in the private sector in that metroplex.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2021, 10:28:21 PM
I appreciated getting to hear the word dump as much as I did tonight. Should be a fun next few years. Trumpers are going to lose their minds insane. Will not be able to accept the results.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2021, 10:29:28 PM
Dump just happened and Perdue still 15k ahead.

More surprised there is a 40k swing between the two races.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
Also I had heard 17k overseas votes.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:32:03 PM
Agreed Rick, using history as our guide, 2000/1, 2004/5, 2016/17, BidenVoters have shown again and again their ability to immediately acquiesce and accept the outcomes of elections.   Particularly in light of the factual reality that very few of them participated in any efforts to continuously cast doubts as to the outcomes of those elections over a protracted period of time.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: chum1 on January 05, 2021, 10:34:59 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:37:15 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

That would be incorrect.

I'm pretty familiar with the governments in greater Atlanta, and I'm just very surprised given the amount of resources available they seem to have a really hard time counting ballots in a timely fashion.  I find that very strange.

But like most local governments, there's an extreme amount of nepotism, favoritism and incompetency, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2021, 10:37:50 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

Did you see where I predicted he would?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:39:32 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

Did you see where I predicted he would?

Rick, Bidenvoters by a large percentage did not accept Bush x 2, and did not accept Trump.   It simply played out over a more protracted period.

So acting like this is some sort of MAGA only situation is both laughable and stupid . . . but expected.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 10:41:11 PM
I'd bet on a split, if only because I think Loeffler is so unpalatable. Mildly shocked if pubs win both, really shocked if dems win both, and boy will maga lose their goddamn minds if that happens.

Revising to still think split, really shocked if pubs win both, mildly shocked if dems win both.

Welp, bring out the brooms
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 05, 2021, 10:41:42 PM
Wow Ossoff only down 500 votes. 

I do not want either of the Republicans winning. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 10:42:25 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

Did you see where I predicted he would?

ATL counties has orders of magnitude more votes to count, yet they are slow and incompetent, don't you know
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 10:43:51 PM
 
Wow Ossoff only down 500 votes. 

I do not want either of the Republicans winning.

It's done, IMO, but stay riveted if it helps. Ossoff probably wins by ~25k when all is said and done. Wornack is going to end up winning easily
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:44:37 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

Did you see where I predicted he would?

ATL counties has orders of magnitude more votes to count, yet they are slow and incompetent, don't you know

Your inability to comprehend the resources available to them in order to handle the situation is expected and yet still  :lol:
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 05, 2021, 10:47:45 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

Did you see where I predicted he would?

ATL counties has orders of magnitude more votes to count, yet they are slow and incompetent, don't you know

Your inability to comprehend the resources available to them in order to handle the situation is expected and yet still  :lol:

Your inability to comprehend anything remotely proves what a backwards dumbfuck you've always been. Can't wait for your screeds tomorrow your pathetic worthless piece of crap. Enjoy butthurtsville pop you
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:48:42 PM
Dax obviously having trouble with accepting today's result.

Did you see where I predicted he would?

ATL counties has orders of magnitude more votes to count, yet they are slow and incompetent, don't you know

Your inability to comprehend the resources available to them in order to handle the situation is expected and yet still  :lol:

Your inability to comprehend anything remotely proves what a backwards dumbfuck you've always been. Can't wait for your screeds tomorrow your pathetic worthless piece of crap. Enjoy butthurtsville pop you

Just because you are and always have been a complete dumbass, doesn't mean you have to rage out on me (as usual)

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on January 05, 2021, 10:49:43 PM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:51:00 PM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.

Spracne sounds like a great candidate for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission position.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on January 05, 2021, 10:52:55 PM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.

Spracne sounds like a great candidate for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission position.

Any decent American who has observed politics since the general election should feel appalled at what has occurred and, to a feeble extent, is still occurring.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 05, 2021, 10:54:06 PM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.

Spracne sounds like a great candidate for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission position.

Any decent American who has observed politics since the general election should feel appalled at what has occurred and, to a feeble extent, is still occurring.

Agreed, all time record votes for one of the most corrupt politicians in modern U.S. political history.

It's very sad.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 05, 2021, 10:54:23 PM
?s=21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on January 05, 2021, 10:56:05 PM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.

I think this is a mods dream tbh, Biden as Pres and zero margin in the Senate (but enough to break complete obstruction).
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: bucket on January 05, 2021, 11:53:35 PM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2021, 12:38:52 AM
Dr. Rick "The Predict" Daris
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2021, 12:46:30 AM
While I prefer divided governance

lol, of course
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Spracne on January 06, 2021, 12:55:21 AM
While I prefer divided governance

lol, of course

Leave me alone, please.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2021, 01:02:40 AM
While I prefer divided governance

lol, of course

Leave me alone, please.

Why are you such a crybaby on the politics board? My God that was innocuous.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2021, 01:04:16 AM
MSNBC has called the Warnock Loeffler race.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: waks on January 06, 2021, 02:04:07 AM
I'm speechless.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 02:24:47 AM
ossoff up by 12k now, good chance the race will finish out of recount territory (within 0.5%).
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 03:35:59 AM
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 06, 2021, 07:14:50 AM
heh.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on January 06, 2021, 07:18:17 AM
Such a dork lol
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 06, 2021, 07:28:04 AM
You know you are peak MAGA when you blame the runoff results on fraud instead of Trump’s berating of the two Republican candidates since he lost in November. 

MAGA has officially killed the GOP.  Blue wave successfully executed.

Deep State/Q believers should be blaming Trump family as a long-play ploy to kill the Republican Party. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 06, 2021, 07:34:40 AM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.

What’s the GA result if trump and magas had not actively campaigned for GA GOP voters to stay home?  That was an all time dick blasting right?
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: waks on January 06, 2021, 09:35:05 AM
heh.

Wow. That's the first time I've seen the whole video. If he didn't have the resume that he does I would say there's a 100% chance that dude has never touched a boob.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Phil Titola on January 06, 2021, 12:29:36 PM
You know you are peak MAGA when you blame the runoff results on fraud instead of Trump’s berating of the two Republican candidates since he lost in November. 

MAGA has officially killed the GOP.  Blue wave successfully executed.

Deep State/Q believers should be blaming Trump family as a long-play ploy to kill the Republican Party.
Network capacity of ATL as a indicator of fraud was my favorite.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 06, 2021, 01:13:07 PM
IMO, (most) elected Pubs deserve this. While I prefer divided governance, perhaps this is what is best to cleanse the national palate of Trumpism. eff 'em, ban 'em, etc.

What’s the GA result if trump and magas had not actively campaigned for GA GOP voters to stay home?  That was an all time dick blasting right?

Doesn't look like that made much of a difference. The democrats out performed Biden and the percentages for the republicans are similar to trumps.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: steve dave on January 13, 2021, 08:32:01 PM
reminded me of this good tweet


Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: 8manpick on January 13, 2021, 09:23:12 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210114/45c3bb53c72c21f2f2c17df1bc7ef0db.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 13, 2021, 10:38:03 PM
Don Trump:  Former huge Dem who hung with the Clinton's, and all the ProgFascist New Yorkers.

Killing GOP conspiracy:  Under consideration

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: catastrophe on January 13, 2021, 10:55:09 PM
If you wanted to make a case for Trump being the biggest POS democrat of all time, I’m not sure I’d disagree.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 13, 2021, 10:59:55 PM
If you wanted to make a case for Trump being the biggest POS democrat of all time, I’m not sure I’d disagree.

You're bringing less than nothing these days
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 14, 2021, 08:33:21 AM
Crenshaw has more eyes than balls.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 14, 2021, 01:26:24 PM
Crenshaw has more eyes than balls.

Trim is going to crush your windpipe
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Trim on January 14, 2021, 01:36:58 PM
Crenshaw has more eyes than balls.

Trim is going to crush your windpipe

Nah, this wasn't offensive to livetrim'rs, but conceivably could be offensive to vag-possess'rs. 
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 14, 2021, 10:06:36 PM
Crenshaw has more eyes than balls.

Trim is going to crush your windpipe

Nah, this wasn't offensive to livetrim'rs, but conceivably could be offensive to vag-possess'rs.

lol, I completely forgot about his eye sitch, I thought it was a uniball joke but it's a unieye joke
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on January 24, 2021, 09:38:13 PM
So Georgia might try and regulate out the fears from the last election, in a completely non-partisan way I'm sure. But seriously I don't know why he'd want to play with that tortured logic

Quote
“A large percentage of my constituents have lost faith in the integrity of our election system,” he said. “So we're going to try to address some things that we feel like can restore the public's confidence in the system.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/24/republicans-voter-id-laws-461707
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 26, 2021, 05:34:23 PM
good reminder that it's probably more likely than not that we'll lose a senator one way or another before the '22 election.  and with the 50:50 balance, even temporary absences could dramatically impact legislation.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: cfbandyman on January 26, 2021, 05:36:20 PM
Sure, and it obv goes both ways, the turtle ain't exactly the picture of health
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 26, 2021, 05:44:09 PM
yeah.  "we'll" in my post refers to americans, not dems.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on January 26, 2021, 07:09:59 PM
good reminder that it's probably more likely than not that we'll lose a senator one way or another before the '22 election.  and with the 50:50 balance, even temporary absences could dramatically impact legislation.


Leahy in particular is an interesting case if he needed to be replaced. He's a dem senator in a blue state with a republican governor. I'd assume the governor would appoint another dem as to not upset the apple cart. My guess is the governor has an interest in being re-elected.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Chingon on January 26, 2021, 07:11:49 PM
He'd be crazy (or ready to be done in politics) to appoint anyone but a republican.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 26, 2021, 07:22:02 PM
I'd assume the governor would appoint another dem as to not upset the apple cart. My guess is the governor has an interest in being re-elected.

probably.  he said something along those lines when asked about potentially replacing sanders if he was selected for a cabinet position.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sys on January 26, 2021, 07:23:16 PM
He'd be crazy (or ready to be done in politics) to appoint anyone but a republican.

vermont is a very blue state.  he was elected by dems.
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: star seed 7 on January 26, 2021, 07:40:28 PM
That guy is also supposed to be the judge in the senate trial since Roberts dipped out
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: Institutional Control on January 26, 2021, 08:02:32 PM
Leahy is out of the hospital already, buzzards.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on February 19, 2021, 10:34:27 AM
So Georgia might try and regulate out the fears from the last election, in a completely non-partisan way I'm sure. But seriously I don't know why he'd want to play with that tortured logic

Quote
“A large percentage of my constituents have lost faith in the integrity of our election system,” he said. “So we're going to try to address some things that we feel like can restore the public's confidence in the system.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/24/republicans-voter-id-laws-461707

Guess an update, doesn't jump out as absolutely terrible tbh, bones to pick for sure.

https://www.gpb.org/news/2021/02/18/georgia-republicans-file-sweeping-elections-bill-limits-early-absentee-voting
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: memphis on February 23, 2021, 07:49:50 PM
Welp, devil was in the deets, the removal of no excuse absentee ballots is pretty egregious.

?s=20
Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 23, 2021, 07:56:37 PM
While seemingly demanding and endless, ever growing and ubiquitous level of oversight by government into everyday life in America.  Progfascist Nation takes two massive steps back when it comes to oversight of the electoral/election process.

Very weird, yet still fascinating.

Title: Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
Post by: MakeItRain on February 23, 2021, 11:14:14 PM
Welp, devil was in the deets, the removal of no excuse absentee ballots is pretty egregious.

?s=20

We knew the response was to just take away voting rights. Unfortunately the dems on the federal level could hardly be bothered to care.