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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2020, 06:43:37 PM »
Anyone following the Democratic senate primary in Kentucky? It's the perfect illustration of the completely broken democratic party.
You have three candidates:
Amy McGrath, a moderate democrat who has the entire weight of party's establishment behind her, despite the fact that she voiced support for the Brett Kavanaugh appointment, lost a house race in '18, and has made a series of gaffes trying to go after Turtle boy. She said this when announcing her candidacy,
“Kentuckians voted for Donald Trump because they wanted to drain the swamp and lower prescription drug prices,” she said. “A lot of what has stood in the way of what Donald Trump promised is Senator McConnell.”

Then you have two seemingly controversy free candidates

Charles Booker, a black progressive from Louisville who supports M4A and the GND.

Mike Broihier who is a farmer who supports UBI and M4A. He is endorsed by Andrew Yang and Marianne Williamson who when endorsing him made it sound like she's endorsing him over Booker because Booker can't relate to rural Kentuckians.

Then there's Matt Jones, the dude who owns Kentucky Sports Radio, who apparently had a large groundswell from people in Kentucky to run but he didn't after McGrath got him fired from a TV job he had.

Their primary is at the end of the month, I can't find any polling data at all, just data for McGrath v. Mr. Turtle.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2020, 01:00:47 PM »
Once Mitch starts spending real money, she's screwed.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2020, 01:03:06 PM »
I have been loosely following it. I know people aren't super into Amy McGrath and says she's awful, and I don't know much about her. How did she get dude fired from the radio?
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2020, 01:10:03 PM »
Following closely. ;)

Can't vote in the primary as I'm registered Republican. I will vote for Booker if he clears the primary and I have donated to his campaign. Hoping for a primary surprise. He's a great candidate in my opinion.

Amy is a trash candidate with her "How I'll work with Trump" line and noted vote for Kavanaugh. She's lining up to be a Dem version of Mitch and that's not what we need.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2020, 01:15:09 PM »
All in on Booker, then. Thinking of requesting a mail-in ballot or 5 to commit some of that tried and true Democrat voter fraud. :wink:
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2020, 07:11:34 AM »
A thread on why Amy sucks. Also, Booker is on a roll. He's polling withing 7 points of her.

https://twitter.com/Grova/status/1270177323673890817

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2020, 03:32:56 PM »
ipa, why don't you change your registration?
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2020, 03:47:26 PM »
I should have but it's too late now.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2020, 04:24:47 PM »
thanks, i was just curious.  it is interesting to me how people view their party identity vs their current alignment.  to what extent they view any conflict between the two as temporary or view one as a more existential item than the other.
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2020, 04:36:15 PM »
I registered Republican when I was 18. My world views have changed considerably in 30 years. I should switch parties as I see fit for primaries. I'm not beholden to either party.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2020, 05:04:03 PM »
I registered Republican when I was 18. My world views have changed considerably in 30 years. I should switch parties as I see fit for primaries. I'm not beholden to either party.

yeah, i'm somewhat similar in that i've always registered with whichever party whose primaries i wanted to vote in and it has never meant anything to me.  however, since 2016 i've grown increasingly well-aligned with democrats in a way that has never happened before.

oth, i think it would still be pretty easy for me to go back to registering as, and voting for, republicans in the future if the parties realign along different axes than they are currently.
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2020, 05:20:46 PM »
I don't see why the government has any part in the process.
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2020, 01:07:21 AM »
I am stunned that voting democrats allow party officials to run their party the way that they do. This has been a losing proposition over and over again. This shouldn't even be about moderate vs. progressive, the extent to which the DNCC and other like groups put the thumb on the scale takes the choice away from the people. Those fundraising stats are embarrassing. Unfortunately, the trumpism of the Republican party has distracted from the gigantic cluster eff the democratic party has become.

For the first time in the history of the country, there is no major party that is considered populist.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2020, 08:35:00 AM »
For the first time in the history of the country, there is no major party that is considered populist.

Is this true?  I'm not a political history buff, but just in my lifetime before I paid much attention, I wouldn't have thought that any party would have been considered "populist" during the HW Bush / Clinton / Bush eras.
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2020, 08:44:35 AM »
The Republican Party is very much the populist party in America.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2020, 10:20:40 AM »
Yeah, I wish we didn't have a populist choice.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2020, 06:54:41 PM »
i wish we had a non-populist choice.

i confess i don't know what mir is referencing though.  that the dscc endorsed mcgrath?
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2020, 11:12:15 PM »
If it were only an endorsement.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2020, 06:17:34 AM »
Ya. Definitely not an endorsement. Full on candidate placement.

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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2020, 04:58:53 PM »
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2020, 06:24:57 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2020, 08:30:55 AM »
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Re: 2020 (non-presidential) elections stuff
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2020, 11:44:36 AM »
Heard a radio ad for the trumper running against sharice davids in joco and it was equal parts  :sdeek: and  :lol:

He never actually names davids, instead calling her "aockc" multiple times. Also some crap about lawless hordes and communists ripping down monuments to erase our history, etc.
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