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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2018, 10:07:54 PM »
Leach - Too much of a POS, or good enough at football to overlook all that?

Not that great at football

compared to whom? I will predict that he's great at football relative relative to whoever we end up hiring.

Who we currently have. Since he got to Washington State his wins number is within a couple of games, give or take, as Snyder's in the same time period. I looked it up like a month ago. If Snyder were to stay on in certain this year would be an aberration and most years we'd be at 6-8 wins, that's exactly what Leach is.

I have no idea what Venables, LittreLL, Kleiman, Satterfield, et al would do here, I'm certain what Leach would do.

Mike Leach has won 8 or more regular season games in the last 4 seasons and will almost definitely win more this year...Snyder's won 8 regular season games once in the last 4 seasons and will almost definitely fewer than six this year.

And to your other point that Leach will only beat Snyder in that S& P+ for the third time this year...it will happen two years in a row.

Honestly I think now we're a 5-7 win program that can win 9 in an exceptional year while Leach has built a 7-9 win program that can win 11 in an exceptional year. Which is what Snyder 2.0 HAD been and I would take right now. I may be reacting too strongly to the last two seasons, but I don't see any indication that Snyder will improve any time soon, while I would absolutely accept Leach's results and trajectory. Admittedly I don't know exactly what Leach's recruiting looks like, but I am assuming they're in a more stable position.

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2018, 10:26:30 PM »
kiffin doesn’t even drive anymore if that gives you an idea about his ability to function. Like, he has a full time driver because he actually needs one.

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2018, 10:45:09 PM »
Does that person also show up an hour late to team meetings completely incoherent?

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2018, 11:00:18 PM »
Are you talking about Steve Sarkesian?
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2018, 11:00:57 PM »
GUYS SCREW IT LET'S GO FOR SARK
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2018, 06:04:51 AM »
Very sad news about lane, hope he gets the help he needs. 
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2018, 10:31:55 AM »
Some stuff on Leach starting at 8:30 including why he's been stuck in the Lubbocks and Pullmans and struggles against well-coached teams: https://www.spreaker.com/user/9808617/softy-2018-11-07-petros-papadakis

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2018, 11:04:34 AM »
Leach - Too much of a POS, or good enough at football to overlook all that?

This is tough.  I suppose that since I refuse to support K-State basketball on the grounds that the coach is a piece of crap dork wad, I should apply the same criteria to football.  However, the football coach will not be hired by the AD who killed fun KSU basketball for me, so I will give a POS football coach a shot to earn my support.  In my judgment, there is enough of a differentiation in these situations to allow this alternative treatment.  Proceed with Leach at all haste, TIA.

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2018, 03:06:29 PM »
I just think leach is annoying.  I get his appeal though


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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2018, 04:09:49 PM »
Even if he wasn’t a great fit, Leach would be good for the long term health of the program. He’s one of very few candidates that I can be confident would do things his own way from day 1 instead of trying to appease people and pay homage to an outgoing legend. I think that sort of mental block could mess with a lot of other coaches.

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2018, 05:42:27 PM »
Even if he wasn’t a great fit, Leach would be good for the long term health of the program. He’s one of very few candidates that I can be confident would do things his own way from day 1 instead of trying to appease people and pay homage to an outgoing legend. I think that sort of mental block could mess with a lot of other coaches.

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2018, 06:03:59 PM »
Even if he wasn’t a great fit, Leach would be good for the long term health of the program. He’s one of very few candidates that I can be confident would do things his own way from day 1 instead of trying to appease people and pay homage to an outgoing legend. I think that sort of mental block could mess with a lot of other coaches.

it's the only reason prince failed
I don’t think that was the only reason, see also: Ron Prince Stories thread
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #112 on: November 08, 2018, 07:16:29 PM »
Even if he wasn’t a great fit, Leach would be good for the long term health of the program. He’s one of very few candidates that I can be confident would do things his own way from day 1 instead of trying to appease people and pay homage to an outgoing legend. I think that sort of mental block could mess with a lot of other coaches.

it's the only reason prince failed

Prince had never established that his vast plans in his binder could/would work. I actually think he had a chance to make them work if he had been able to work with other good coaches; ie. his first staff. And had he not felt the need to insert his thumb into things he had no business dealing with, namely the defense. The 2008 defense gave up an astonishing 3 points per possession to opponents and it wasn't because of the lack of talent. I'd say that defense was more talented than the one we have now, but the Bosco Boy's podcast with Ian Cambell and Reggie Walker is very revealing not only to how bad Prince was to the players, but his ineptitude in trying to adjust the defensive philosophy. Prince and Leach both have big personalities, but that is where the comparison ends. And as has been said, Leach's persona as a coach in following Snyder is one of the major reasons I like him.

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2018, 07:34:10 PM »
Prince failed because he wouldn’t let Reggie walker on the field
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2018, 08:00:23 PM »
Sorry, only reason

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2018, 12:11:38 AM »
Chris Klieman, N Dakota State.
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2018, 07:50:13 AM »
That wouldn't surprise me, but I'd rather have LittreLL or Venables

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2018, 08:31:17 AM »
Has there been any successful p5 coach that jumped up from fcs?
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2018, 08:41:52 AM »
Has there been any successful p5 coach that jumped up from fcs?
Jim Tressel and Jim Harbaugh immediately come to mind

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2018, 08:48:55 AM »
Paul Johnson might depending on how you define success and if you overlook his time at navy
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #121 on: November 09, 2018, 08:55:07 AM »
Jim tressel is interesting.

Where did squawkbaugh coach?
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #122 on: November 09, 2018, 09:05:18 AM »
Jim tressel is interesting.

Where did squawkbaugh coach?

San Diego

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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #123 on: November 09, 2018, 09:10:39 AM »
Ah, I always assumed it was sd state.
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Re: Coaching Search 2018
« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2018, 09:11:50 AM »
While he'd be my 5th or 6th choice, I could deal with NDSU guy if I knew what kind of staff he would be putting together.

Has to be guys with P5 experience IMO.