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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #175 on: March 24, 2018, 09:39:56 PM »
Holy crap, just read back a few posts. You guys are manic fucktards.
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #176 on: March 24, 2018, 09:55:47 PM »
I think the “ummm” was a reference to Chingon and FSD being the same person.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #177 on: March 24, 2018, 10:07:23 PM »
Well I never

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« Reply #178 on: March 24, 2018, 10:08:14 PM »
I think the “ummm” was a reference to Chingon and FSD being the same person.

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« Reply #179 on: March 24, 2018, 10:24:09 PM »
That was our best chance, even with a better team next year.
Absolutely, this run was all luck

We had a 14 point lead with 2 minutes on a 8 seed that every national media peep was picking to win

We beat a 5 seed who was playing like a 3 seed the last 6 weeks (like Cal teams do)

Did both with basically nothing from Wade.

We lucked out 1 game. We played great in the the other 2 games

JFC MC, you are so drunk on Weber hate it's comical.

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« Reply #180 on: March 24, 2018, 10:26:28 PM »
We didn't luck out on any of the games.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #181 on: March 24, 2018, 10:28:34 PM »
That was our best chance, even with a better team next year.
Absolutely, this run was all luck

We had a 14 point lead with 2 minutes on a 8 seed that every national media peep was picking to win

We beat a 5 seed who was playing like a 3 seed the last 6 weeks (like Cal teams do)

Did both with basically nothing from Wade.

We lucked out 1 game. We played great in the the other 2 games

JFC MC, you are so drunk on Weber hate it's comical.

Lucky draw, no way you can deny it. He definitely had his team play great 2 out of 4 games, though, so lets sign him up for a lifetime contract.

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« Reply #182 on: March 24, 2018, 10:34:51 PM »
You think 2010 makes an Elite 8 run with Denis out with injury??

Yeah it's possible, but not probable.

No 2018 team wasn't a top 20 team. But like u said it played great for 2 games minus a stud player.

Our best team played great for 3 with everyone healthy

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #183 on: March 24, 2018, 10:44:41 PM »
oscar Weber beats a hall of fame head coach with a team full of pros in a de facto home crowd without his best player and finishes the game with his tallest player on the floor at 6’3

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« Reply #184 on: March 25, 2018, 12:48:02 AM »
Agree that anyone who wants to talk about “luck” should factor in the injury lottery we lost going into the postseason.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #185 on: March 25, 2018, 12:53:16 AM »
Agree that anyone who wants to talk about “luck” should factor in the injury lottery we lost going into the postseason.

OK

*factoring*

We were still lucky that greatest upset in college basketball history happened and that we beat UK.

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« Reply #186 on: March 25, 2018, 02:56:32 AM »
I have no reason to believe that luck had anything to do with beating UK.  I was encouraged after reading _fan's breakdown that, for whatever reason, we seem to match up well with long teams.  I guess it is similar with how Loyola matched up with us.

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« Reply #187 on: March 26, 2018, 11:52:02 AM »
Luck had nothing to do with how any of our games played out. No seed in the tournament ended up with an easier path to the final 4 than we did, though. Had the team performed better throughout the season, we would have had a more difficult slate of teams to play despite getting a better seed. This is even true for all of the 1 seeds, except for Virginia, who had exactly the same path we had. That is luck.

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« Reply #188 on: March 26, 2018, 12:11:58 PM »
Well in that case I’m gonna call it bad luck we ended up playing Loyola. Give me Nevada any day over those guys. Would have given us the same seed total as Michigan and a much more realistic shot at a FF.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #189 on: March 26, 2018, 01:11:48 PM »
It's pretty fascinating to watch the tennis match between luck and the stats side of this talk. The "we didn't have to play Virginia" and the "We did this without Wade"

Just be happy an E8 happened, a second weekend happened, and that we beat Calipari. oscar's teams seem to always crap the bed around 1 out of 3 or 4 games at least, and this time it happened against a team that shot lights out from 3 in a great chance for a FF. Of course it sucks, but it happened, and I will never be ashamed of this weird but fun E8 run. Heck, we might get another S16/E8 or if luck permits get the FF next year. You should always want more, but guise, enjoy the glow of team that shut down Marcus Foster, only 9 to beat a 6, and the first ksu-cats team that made a very happy Ernie Barrett by beating Kentucky.
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #190 on: March 26, 2018, 01:15:46 PM »
It's pretty fascinating to watch the tennis match between luck and the stats side of this talk. The "we didn't have to play Virginia" and the "We did this without Wade"

Just be happy an E8 happened, a second weekend happened, and that we beat Calipari. oscar's teams seem to always crap the bed around 1 out of 3 or 4 games at least, and this time it happened against a team that shot lights out from 3 in a great chance for a FF. Of course it sucks, but it happened, and I will never be ashamed of this weird but fun E8 run. Heck, we might get another S16/E8 or if luck permits get the FF next year. You should always want more, but guise, enjoy the glow of team that shut down Marcus Foster, only 9 to beat a 6, and the first ksu-cats team that made a very happy Ernie Barrett by beating Kentucky.

I'm very happy that it happened. I don't think anyone is ashamed of the run. You are kidding yourself and setting yourself up for a major disappointment next year if you don't see how luck played a role in all of this, though.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #191 on: March 26, 2018, 01:19:06 PM »
Not having your all big 12 player able to play is definitely unlucky. We beat a Creighton team that beat Villanova this year, the tourney darlings, and an NBA team, so I think i'll stick to giving oscar and Co. some credit on this run.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #192 on: March 26, 2018, 01:28:59 PM »
Assuming Wade comes back healthy I will be disappointed if we don't make the Sweet 16 next year.  I will be ecstatic if we make the Elite Eight.  Pretty thin margin, but that's what it is.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #193 on: March 26, 2018, 01:32:13 PM »
No doubt getting to play UMBC was good fortune, but Creighton and Kentucky were both legitimate and solid tournament wins. No need to apologize for this run to the Elite 8 at all.

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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #194 on: March 26, 2018, 01:34:17 PM »
Not having your all big 12 player able to play is definitely unlucky. 

yes, it made the kentucky win much more improbable/lucky. UK was a really nice win, easily the best team KSU beat all year.

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« Reply #195 on: March 26, 2018, 01:54:12 PM »
UK was a really nice win, easily the best team KSU beat all year.

you called 2014 kstate (14.10) and 2017 kstate (17.44) indistinguishable, but claim kentucky (20.50) is "easily" better than tcu (18.53)?
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« Reply #196 on: March 26, 2018, 02:00:22 PM »
UK was a really nice win, easily the best team KSU beat all year.

you called 2014 kstate (14.10) and 2017 kstate (17.44) indistinguishable, but claim kentucky (20.50) is "easily" better than tcu (18.53)?

Hmmm looks like I was wrong. UK was not easily the best team KSU beat.

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« Reply #197 on: March 26, 2018, 02:01:43 PM »
heh.  you were supposed to admit you were wrong about 2017 kstate.
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Re: WE COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE THE FINAL FOUR
« Reply #198 on: March 26, 2018, 02:15:10 PM »
UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.   

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« Reply #199 on: March 26, 2018, 02:17:31 PM »
UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney  team we've beaten in 30+ years