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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: chum1 on March 22, 2018, 11:14:37 PM
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HOLY crap!!!!!
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Lol, I know right
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The way the MF'ers are playing, the sky is the limit.
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Wow
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Tournament performance is a poor indicator of coaching prowess
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Elite 8 could have 4 Big12 teams, too!
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kstate has a pretty good record against kp30+ teams.
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WITHOUT Claws
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Our next mission....make the nun cry!
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Elite 8 could have 4 Big12 teams, too!
ummm
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
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We already beat the highest seed we’d meet the entire tournament (at least until the final).
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I can't believe it
I couldn't even watch
I cant believe it
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
I usually make decisions for the long term, but not now. Final four or death
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
Yea sucks we couldn’t shake the guy, otherwise we could have had the same success of Illinois post-Weber.
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
good advice from a 26 year old who still calls himself "Bri"
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eff that old nun
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Elite 8 could have 4 Big12 teams, too!
ummm
If the 4th best Big 12 team could advance, no reason 1-3 can’t either.
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oscar is making me a believer. That sum bitch is coaching em up guys
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PLEASE beat Loyola!!! I don't want another Butler type story. I would really like to see a final four sometime in my life! You can't dream up brackets this open! Please take advantage!!
GO CATS!!!
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See you bros in San Anton :gocho:
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See you bros in San Anton :gocho:
When and where will the pak be? :katpak:
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
Yea sucks we couldn’t shake the guy, otherwise we could have had the same success of Illinois post-Weber.
Indubitably
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holy eff oscar. What a game. Sneed is a damn man
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
It's pretty evident that Champaign-Urbana is a crap hole that's hard to recruit to. Sorry bud.
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This is fun guys.
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MIR, please. CU is a lovely place full of great people, most of whom still enthusiastically cheer for oscar while bathing in the heinous Kams odor.
Don't let these IllinoisLoyaty honyocks taint an otherwise wonderful oscar-loving community.
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This is fun guys.
I 100% whole heartedly agree with this statement.
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WITHOUT Claws
This is by far the most impressive thing about what oscar has done and he's stuck to his guns. When the docs told him if he played on it hurt in the 2nd half and that he might not be available for Saturday, oscar sat his ass, because he's final 4 or bust. :love:
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I want this Final Four bad. COME ON oscar LET'S DO THIS. WHEN I SAY "oscar" YOU SAY "oscar", oscar...
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Defense Travels boys
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PLEASE beat Loyola!!! I don't want another Butler type story. I would really like to see a final four sometime in my life! You can't dream up brackets this open! Please take advantage!!
GO CATS!!!
:ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
More like LOLyola, amirite??!!!!
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PLEASE beat Loyola!!! I don't want another Butler type story. I would really like to see a final four sometime in my life! You can't dream up brackets this open! Please take advantage!!
GO CATS!!!
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Brad Stevens and Gordon Hayward aren't walking through that door
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Yeah, watching Loyola and Nevada go at it was SUPER duper mid majory.
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
I would happily give him 10 years for every F4.
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Congrats EMAW Nation. This is bittersweet. Elite 8 and very possible Final 4. You may have just secured Bruth for another 10+ years. God help you.
I would happily give him 10 years for every F4.
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I barely know a single person who was alive the last time we were in a Final 4. Like I hear stories about it, but I still think it's made up.
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I hope we get to play FSU.
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and Syracuse for the national championship
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and Syracuse for the national championship
hi, no
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
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Consecutive Creighton, UMBC, and UK wins wouldn't have been enough to get us ranked in the top 25 at the end of the season. But it is good enough to get us to the E8. Not to mention if we beat Loyola to get to the F4. The tournament is really fun sometimes.
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
He look like he finnda do it
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Beating 8, 16, 5, 11, 9, 11 to win a national championship would be the most amazing thing that has ever happened in sports.
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I want to play sister school duke
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Beating 8, 16, 5, 11, 9, 11 to win a national championship would be the most amazing thing that has ever happened in sports.
Of course we're the national champions, we beat the (best case scenario) 29th, 61st, 17th, 41st, 33rd, and 42nd best teams in the country. How else would you determine it?
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Then we return everyone and are ranked preseason #18 or something
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Beating 8, 16, 5, 11, 9, 11 to win a national championship would be the most amazing thing that has ever happened in sports.
Of course we're the national champions, we beat the (best case scenario) 29th, 61st, 17th, 41st, 33rd, and 42nd best teams in the country. How else would you determine it?
This is such a silly talking point. If anything the tournament is pretty compelling proof that no matter how much you like ranking/ordering teams, there is just not that much separation between them. Say Virginia demolishes UMBC and then has their UMBC-type performance against KSU. Why would that suddenly make our road to the E8 that much more impressive?
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Beating 8, 16, 5, 11, 9, 11 to win a national championship would be the most amazing thing that has ever happened in sports.
Of course we're the national champions, we beat the (best case scenario) 29th, 61st, 17th, 41st, 33rd, and 42nd best teams in the country. How else would you determine it?
This is such a silly talking point. If anything the tournament is pretty compelling proof that no matter how much you like ranking/ordering teams, there is just not that much separation between them. Say Virginia demolishes UMBC and then has their UMBC-type performance against KSU. Why would that suddenly make our road to the E8 that much more impressive?
I'm not arguing KSU doesn't deserve to be where they are. You play who the tournament/seeding gives you and you have to beat them. As much as KSU earned their right to the E8, 60 teams will have just as much earned their right to go home for mistakes big or small.
My larger point is that a 68 team single elimination tournament is an absolutely absurd way to declare a national champion. It is, however, a very fun way. Also, profitable.
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It's the best way.
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it's the only (valid) way.
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In any sport, the process for determining a champion doesn't really have to have anything to do with determining the best team. All you have to have is enough acceptance of the process.
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
It's amazingly disingenuous, sure.
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I would buy a Final Four shirt at Dillons. #RIPFatty
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Beating 8, 16, 5, 11, 9, 11 to win a national championship would be the most amazing thing that has ever happened in sports.
Of course we're the national champions, we beat the (best case scenario) 29th, 61st, 17th, 41st, 33rd, and 42nd best teams in the country. How else would you determine it?
This is such a silly talking point. If anything the tournament is pretty compelling proof that no matter how much you like ranking/ordering teams, there is just not that much separation between them. Say Virginia demolishes UMBC and then has their UMBC-type performance against KSU. Why would that suddenly make our road to the E8 that much more impressive?
yes
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
It's amazingly disingenuous, sure.
I mean the photo's great, but Mellinger has a classic non-take take
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he has a couple of really good paragraphs related to optics and what not
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
I'll talk to the junk I want to talk to sys, rusty, clams, trim, grapefruit, etc., but I'll be damned if I'm going to let ku fans use a bully pulpit to tell us that we should have been happy with a coach .500 in conference with one first four win, eff all of that and eff Sam Mellinger, Nate Bukaty and anyone else trying to "I told you so" to this entire fan base. These ku fans felt not the least bit threatened by oscar Weber but now they want to Lord superiority over my people? Nah, I'm not here for it.
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I'm with MIR. And if I have one more ku fan tell me they were cheering for us so help me.
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Mellinger, for me if oscar makes the F4 then absolutely all his past mistakes are 100% forgiven.
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he has a couple of really good paragraphs related to optics and what not
That he absolutely helped perpetuate. No one, literally no one in the media pitched a bigger crap fit about "go ask Fran."
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
I'll talk to the junk I want to talk to sys, rusty, clams, trim, grapefruit, etc., but I'll be damned if I'm going to let ku fans use a bully pulpit to tell us that we should have been happy with a coach .500 in conference with one first four win, eff all of that and eff Sam Mellinger, Nate Bukaty and anyone else trying to "I told you so" to this entire fan base. These ku fans felt not the least bit threatened by oscar Weber but now they want to Lord superiority over my people? Nah, I'm not here for it.
This run doesn't invalidate a single rough ridin' thing I've said about oscar. And neither would a win over Loyola. FWIW.
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I'm with MIR. And if I have one more ku fan tell me they were cheering for us so help me.
yes, heard a lot of "we cheered for you last night, but we know you'll be cheering for clemson hur hur huring" already. this was from facebook, i don't ever comment on facebook, or post, and i sure as hell wouldn't post about ku after one of their games, but sure enough they like to start posts after our games with back handed compliments and then make another comment to make it all about them in the end. so rough ridin' weird
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
I'll talk to the junk I want to talk to sys, rusty, clams, trim, grapefruit, etc., but I'll be damned if I'm going to let ku fans use a bully pulpit to tell us that we should have been happy with a coach .500 in conference with one first four win, eff all of that and eff Sam Mellinger, Nate Bukaty and anyone else trying to "I told you so" to this entire fan base. These ku fans felt not the least bit threatened by oscar Weber but now they want to Lord superiority over my people? Nah, I'm not here for it.
This run doesn't invalidate a single rough ridin' thing I've said about oscar. And neither would a win over Loyola. FWIW.
Okay.
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I'm with MIR. And if I have one more ku fan tell me they were cheering for us so help me.
yes, heard a lot of "we cheered for you last night, but we know you'll be cheering for clemson hur hur huring" already. this was from facebook, i don't ever comment on facebook, or post, and i sure as hell wouldn't post about ku after one of their games, but sure enough they like to start posts after our games with back handed compliments and then make another comment to make it all about them in the end. so rough ridin' weird
i don't care who anyone cheers for. cheer for the cats, against the cats, whatever. just don't act like i owe you a damn brownie point for saying you cheered for the Bruceketcats
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
I'll talk to the junk I want to talk to sys, rusty, clams, trim, grapefruit, etc., but I'll be damned if I'm going to let ku fans use a bully pulpit to tell us that we should have been happy with a coach .500 in conference with one first four win, eff all of that and eff Sam Mellinger, Nate Bukaty and anyone else trying to "I told you so" to this entire fan base. These ku fans felt not the least bit threatened by oscar Weber but now they want to Lord superiority over my people? Nah, I'm not here for it.
This run doesn't invalidate a single rough ridin' thing I've said about oscar. And neither would a win over Loyola. FWIW.
Okay.
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
I'll talk to the junk I want to talk to sys, rusty, clams, trim, grapefruit, etc., but I'll be damned if I'm going to let ku fans use a bully pulpit to tell us that we should have been happy with a coach .500 in conference with one first four win, eff all of that and eff Sam Mellinger, Nate Bukaty and anyone else trying to "I told you so" to this entire fan base. These ku fans felt not the least bit threatened by oscar Weber but now they want to Lord superiority over my people? Nah, I'm not here for it.
This run doesn't invalidate a single rough ridin' thing I've said about oscar. And neither would a win over Loyola. FWIW.
I think, I hope, over never thrown my proBruce stance in anyone's face simply because I've been all over the place on it. There isn't a person in the world who can claim some unwavering support, it's been a very uneven tenure, crap, we were dangerously close to losing to UMBC. I would not be surprised even a little bit if we lost 8+ games next year. I'm on board with oscar but I'm not going to act like this has been some smooth ride and I have no worries for the long term future of Kansas State basketball.
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This is amazing.
https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/977255509731561472?s=21
I'll talk to the junk I want to talk to sys, rusty, clams, trim, grapefruit, etc., but I'll be damned if I'm going to let ku fans use a bully pulpit to tell us that we should have been happy with a coach .500 in conference with one first four win, eff all of that and eff Sam Mellinger, Nate Bukaty and anyone else trying to "I told you so" to this entire fan base. These ku fans felt not the least bit threatened by oscar Weber but now they want to Lord superiority over my people? Nah, I'm not here for it.
This run doesn't invalidate a single rough ridin' thing I've said about oscar. And neither would a win over Loyola. FWIW.
I think, I hope, over never thrown my proBruce stance in anyone's face simply because I've been all over the place on it. There isn't a person in the world who can claim some unwavering support, it's been a very uneven tenure, crap, we were dangerously close to losing to UMBC. I would not be surprised even a little bit if we lost 8+ games next year. I'm on board with oscar but I'm not going to act like this has been some smooth ride and I have no worries for the long term future of Kansas State basketball.
This is why MiR is a top five basketball poster^^
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who has 2 arms and is going ot the final four?
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I'm with MIR. And if I have one more ku fan tell me they were cheering for us so help me.
It's like when the dad in Get Out said he would have voted for Obama a 3rd time
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hey oscar, pretend you are 5 years old holding both your parents hands at the park.
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I'm with MIR. And if I have one more ku fan tell me they were cheering for us so help me.
It's like when the dad in Get Out said he would have voted for Obama a 3rd time
it is exactly like that
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:lol:
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the only person i know who has been 100% ride or die with oscar is Mixed_Nutz
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I RSVP'd yes to a wedding that starts at 530 tomorrow
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I RSVP'd yes to a wedding that starts at 530 tomorrow
What's the kids/booze sitch?
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yeah i'm going to a wedding too. NBD. big game is next weekend.
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I RSVP'd yes to a wedding that starts at 530 tomorrow
What's the kids/booze sitch?
its with booze/kids. we were going to go and leave kids with a baby sitter and enjoy the open bar.
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I'm just going to say our babysitter fell through and send a gift
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then maybe our babysitter will come through just in time for the reception
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oscar, your thoughts on my plan?
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I enjoy seeing Shane as adorable as ever having an awesome time with these guys.
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I enjoy seeing Shane as adorable as ever having an awesome time with these guys.
I think Shane may end up being a really successful coach. That guy is one charismatic fellow.
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I didn't even read the article. I just thought the headline/picture was great.
CF3, great work ITT.
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I didn't even read the article. I just thought the headline/picture was great.
CF3, great work ITT.
:bball: :bball: :bball: :bball:
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Saturday is going to be so fun.
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I'd run through a brick wall for coach shane
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oscar has matched Frank Martin. I can't believe that. But it's true.
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Beating 8, 16, 5, 11, 9, 11 to win a national championship would be the most amazing thing that has ever happened in sports.
This would be more amazing than KU's perfect storm Orange Bowl season.
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the only person i know who has been 100% ride or die with oscar is Mixed_Nutz
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Those pictures are rough ridin' hilarious and I IRL lol’d at a few of those CF3 comments.
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Guys I just realized we are favored to make it to a FF and now I’m super excited/nervous already.
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I am super excited and nervous for the Cats tomorrow. Win or lose it’s been one amazing ride. The Kentucky win elevated this season to a whole new level. But damn, now we’re on the cusp of a Final Four and I’m gonna be disappointed if we fall short.
But if I had to choose amazingly steady defense or offense through the first three rounds as a predictor of future success, I’d take defense every time.
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There's your statue pose right there.
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I guess florida state calls themselves junkyard dogs defense
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I guess florida state calls themselves junkyard dogs defense
They also have a grading system for the players where they are evaluated on being in the right places in the floor, having their hands where they're supposed to be... Very play hard chartesque.
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MIR, please. CU is a lovely place full of great people, most of whom still enthusiastically cheer for oscar while bathing in the heinous Kams odor.
Don't let these IllinoisLoyaty honyocks taint an otherwise wonderful oscar-loving community.
Is Kams still there?
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MIR, please. CU is a lovely place full of great people, most of whom still enthusiastically cheer for oscar while bathing in the heinous Kams odor.
Don't let these IllinoisLoyaty honyocks taint an otherwise wonderful oscar-loving community.
Is Kams still there?
Oh yeah
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I don’t like the way we match up with loyola
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Please elaborate. I've not heard any matchup breakdown talk yet.
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They're iowa state wo talent. We roll
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they’re going to pressure our guards much more effectively than uk was able to
similar to how ucmb did
if we could take advantage of the mawein height advantage, we would have against umbc but we all saw how that went
which shooting team of ours shows up
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We're not going to give their shitty guard unfettered access to the paint to kick for 3's or dish for layups, they won't get to 50.
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They're iowa state wo talent. We roll
except iowa state didn’t make the tournament or elite 8 and stuff
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they’re going to pressure our guards much more effectively than uk was able to
similar to how ucmb did
if we could take advantage of the mawein height advantage, we would have against umbc but we all saw how that went
which shooting team of ours shows up
Seems like Wade could be a real factor then. Anyone heard more on his availability?
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he’s hurt and shouldn’t play
if we’re going to play small ball we have to commit to it
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So you’re saying they’re a bad matchup for us because they will counteract our small lineup that you think we should commit to?
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we don’t have a choice, unless there’s some big guys on our roster that i don’t know about
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Sneed is a big guy against this low-major excuse for a team. He is going to DOB the same way he bombed threes on KY.
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Guys....today’s the day! :excited: :excited:
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I think I’ll see more people this time.
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should have went to atlanta.
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Final fours.....how long have you went before you have went to one
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Could? Will!
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Did you guys ever look at upset filled regions in the past and think, "Man, I wish K-State could have been in that region." Because I did! AND NOW WE ARE!!!
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Could see a 9 seed in the final four! I mean can you imagine playing for a natty?!
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Aggieville would burn to the ground
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It might not be the K-State team most deserving of a final four but after so many near misses in my Cat fan career (I'm old) I don't give a crap. OT loss to Cuse in 75, Winston waved off tip-in in 77 to eventual NC Marquette, loss to eventual NC Louisville in last-second shot in OT in 80, EE loss to North Carolina the next year, worst of the worst 88 elite eight loss to KU when we were the better team with the best player in college BB, and 2010 EE game of spent legs.
So ask me if I gave a damn about making a nun cry.
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It might not be the K-State team most deserving of a final four but after so many near misses in my Cat fan career (I'm old) I don't give a crap. OT loss to Cuse in 75, Winston waved off tip-in in 77 to eventual NC Marquette, loss to eventual NC Louisville in last-second shot in OT in 80, EE loss to North Carolina the next year, worst of the worst 88 elite eight loss to KU when we were the better team with the best player in college BB, and 2010 EE game of spent legs.
So ask me if I gave a damn about making a nun cry.
YES EZfried, YES! Now that's some rough ridin' zeal right there!
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So ask me if I gave a damn about making a nun cry.
Nominate for new board name
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I am really anticipating a let down. Like so hard.
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I am really anticipating a let down. Like so hard.
This is the position of any real cats fan. We've had our guts ripped out enough times you cannot psychologically afford to not be prepared, at least on some level, for a kick in the nuts.
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It might not be the K-State team most deserving of a final four but after so many near misses in my Cat fan career (I'm old) I don't give a crap. OT loss to Cuse in 75, Winston waved off tip-in in 77 to eventual NC Marquette, loss to eventual NC Louisville in last-second shot in OT in 80, EE loss to North Carolina the next year, worst of the worst 88 elite eight loss to KU when we were the better team with the best player in college BB, and 2010 EE game of spent legs.
So ask me if I gave a damn about making a nun cry.
YES EZfried, YES! Now that's some rough ridin' zeal right there!
Is there video of any of these KITN's?
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I am really anticipating a let down. Like so hard.
This is the position of any real cats fan. We've had our guts ripped out enough times you cannot psychologically afford to not be prepared, at least on some level, for a kick in the nuts.
absolutely
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It’s a loser mentality but I guess it’s understandable. The highs won’t be as high as they could be unless you let go and fully expect to win.
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9 K-State 64
11 Loyola 57
Hey guys, I'm free again next Saturday. What you say, same 5:00 time next week in San Antonio.
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I see what you're saying ww, and I guess if we'd ever won a natty I might feel differently. But to date ive had about 5 times where Martin gramatica has kicked my nuts thru the back of the end zone on the fly so sorry... I've been conditioned to be prepared.
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I mean I'm not like a catzacker level doomsday prepper. Just cautiously optimistic. I'll still cheer my face off and be super excited if we win. :cheers:
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Thinking about maybe taking the easy way out and not watching.
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We win crap will be going crazy! Thou we have to embrace our inner villian to beat a team that a 98 years old nun loves.
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Do I want our wild wildcats to win? Of course. Do I want to burn in h-e-double hockey sticks for all eternity? Not particularly. This is a predicament, is what I'm getting at here.
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It might not be the K-State team most deserving of a final four but after so many near misses in my Cat fan career (I'm old) I don't give a crap. OT loss to Cuse in 75, Winston waved off tip-in in 77 to eventual NC Marquette, loss to eventual NC Louisville in last-second shot in OT in 80, EE loss to North Carolina the next year, worst of the worst 88 elite eight loss to KU when we were the better team with the best player in college BB, and 2010 EE game of spent legs.
So ask me if I gave a damn about making a nun cry.
I'm old too and remember all of those. Tonight could make up for a lot of past heart break. :ksu:
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No
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:cry:
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The AAC took in the wrong Missouri Valley team. That much is clear. Big 4 seed Wichita loses to a lowly 13 seed Cusa Marshall. This was supposed to be the Shockers nail it down year too.
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That was our best chance, even with a better team next year.
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That was our best chance, even with a better team next year.
Absolutely, this run was all luck
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As they all are.
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As they all are.
Much much much less so for high seeds.
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maybe kstate will be a high seed next year.
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maybe kstate will be a high seed next year.
We damn will better be. Hopefully people will actually have higher expectations for once.
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maybe kstate will be a high seed next year.
I bet we're a 6
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We should get a 4 or better if Dean is back.
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We should get a 4 or better if Dean is back.
Yes which is why I expect a 6
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Can we win 25 games or more and finish 1 or 2 in conference? The last time Oscar had a team like that, it crapped out in the first round.
That's why you need to take advantage of opportunities when they are in front of you.
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What’s more likely:
Making the elite 8 again next year or not?
The tournament is a giant crap shoot. We got an enormous break with UMBC winning and turned it into a E8. We got to play an 11 to go to the final 4 and lost. We’ll be a 6 seed or something like that and get put out in the first or second round.
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What’s more likely:
Making the elite 8 again next year or not?
The tournament is a giant crap shoot. We got an enormous break with UMBC winning and turned it into a E8. We got to play an 11 to go to the final 4 and lost. We’ll be a 6 seed or something like that and get put out in the first or second round.
It's less of a crapshoot if you get a high seed. I think a first or second round exit sounds right next season.
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Making the E8 is never gonna be likely. The best you can do is have a shot and hope you get favorable matchups along the way.
Even if we return all our players, Weber would deserve a massive extension if we make consecutive E8s.
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Can we win 25 games or more and finish 1 or 2 in conference? The last time Oscar had a team like that, it crapped out in the first round.
That's why you need to take advantage of opportunities when they are in front of you.
Yes...this. We took advantage of UVA getting run out but couldn’t take advantage of the second opportunity. Really frustrating....feels like we missed out on a golden opportunity.
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Making the E8 is never gonna be likely. The best you can do is have a shot and hope you get favorable matchups along the way.
No, the best you can do is be awesome in the regular season and get a high seed
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Ok, yea. That and then the rest of what I said.
FWIW - I will be pretty upset if we’re not at least within a game of the conference championship going into the final week of the 2018-19 season (assuming we keep all our guys). I also think a Sweet 16 is a very reasonable expectation (I would have expected the same even if we got bounced by UMBC this year).
If both those things happen, I wouldn’t expect oscar to go anywhere for the next 5 years.
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Ok, yea. That and then the rest of what I said.
FWIW - I will be pretty upset if we’re not at least within a game of the conference championship going into the final week of the 2018-19 season (assuming we keep all our guys). I also think a Sweet 16 is a very reasonable expectation.
If both those things happen, I wouldn’t expect oscar to go anywhere for the next 5 years.
I mean, the only thing that would make him go anywhere in the next five years is another fluke tournament run and getting a better job. Otherwise he's here till he retires.
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You don’t believe that. We miss the tournament next year after returning everyone and he’s right back on the hot seat. 5 years without results is an eternity in major college sports.
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You don’t believe that. We miss the tournament next year after returning everyone and he’s right back on the hot seat. 5 years without results is an eternity in major college sports.
he won't miss the tournament without mass defections or injury next season, which would give him the ol' reset button again like he did after he ran of Foster. Only this time he has an Elite 8 under his belt to give him a little more leeway.
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You don’t believe that. We miss the tournament next year after returning everyone and he’s right back on the hot seat. 5 years without results is an eternity in major college sports.
you've gotta be joking. he just went to the elite 8.
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they’re going to pressure our guards much more effectively than uk was able to
similar to how ucmb did
if we could take advantage of the mawein height advantage, we would have against umbc but we all saw how that went
which shooting team of ours shows up
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per kenpom ratings, this team team was worse than all but Frank's NIT team. Which doesn't feel wrong if you rearranged the order of the wins this season.
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3 consecutive tournament misses including next year would be enough for him to get forced out, IMO. No one is going to tolerate finishing at the bottom of the Big 12 that long either.
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I am really anticipating a let down. Like so hard.
This is the position of any real cats fan. We've had our guts ripped out enough times you cannot psychologically afford to not be prepared, at least on some level, for a kick in the nuts.
Why watch sports? I'm serious too, not trying to be a dick. Everyone gets their face kicked in, a lot. Why do you guys feel like we have the market cornered on misery?
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Can we win 25 games or more and finish 1 or 2 in conference? The last time Oscar had a team like that, it crapped out in the first round.
That's why you need to take advantage of opportunities when they are in front of you.
Yes...this. We took advantage of UVA getting run out but couldn’t take advantage of the second opportunity. Really frustrating....feels like we missed out on a golden opportunity.
I mean we clearly lost to a better team
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I mean we clearly lost to a better team.
:surprised:
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You don’t believe that. We miss the tournament next year after returning everyone and he’s right back on the hot seat. 5 years without results is an eternity in major college sports.
he won't miss the tournament without mass defections or injury next season, which would give him the ol' reset button again like he did after he ran of Foster. Only this time he has an Elite 8 under his belt to give him a little more leeway.
one thing is it seems like attendance is way down from the "Cult" years and I will be interested to see if it changes much after this run
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it seems like attendance is way down from the "Cult" years and I will be interested to see if it changes much after this run
i bet it does.
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I mean we clearly lost to a better team.
:surprised:
Touche. I thought about my kenpom post when oscar pulled the starters. I was expecting this.
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i tried to rub it in your face after the nevada game.
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i tried to rub it in your face after the nevada game.
I saw it but it was after we beat Kentucky so I shook it right off
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3 consecutive tournament misses including next year would be enough for him to get forced out, IMO. No one is going to tolerate finishing at the bottom of the Big 12 that long either.
We have fans who would gladly accept Tom Asbury seasons for the next ten years based on this run. oscar is here for as long as he wants barring some massive scandal. He has the coldest seat in the Big 12.
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3 consecutive tournament misses including next year would be enough for him to get forced out, IMO. No one is going to tolerate finishing at the bottom of the Big 12 that long either.
We have fans who would gladly accept Tom Asbury seasons for the next ten years based on this run. oscar is here for as long as he wants barring some massive scandal. He has the coldest seat in the Big 12.
You're better than this, that's a FSD post.
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3 consecutive tournament misses including next year would be enough for him to get forced out, IMO. No one is going to tolerate finishing at the bottom of the Big 12 that long either.
We have fans who would gladly accept Tom Asbury seasons for the next ten years based on this run. oscar is here for as long as he wants barring some massive scandal. He has the coldest seat in the Big 12.
You're better than this, that's a FSD post.
Ummmm...
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3 consecutive tournament misses including next year would be enough for him to get forced out, IMO. No one is going to tolerate finishing at the bottom of the Big 12 that long either.
We have fans who would gladly accept Tom Asbury seasons for the next ten years based on this run. oscar is here for as long as he wants barring some massive scandal. He has the coldest seat in the Big 12.
You're better than this, that's a FSD post.
Ummmm...
Ummmmm what, you don't think I know what he's referencing?
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I think the “ummm” was a reference to Chingon and FSD being the same person.
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The tiered games as a basis for seeding was clearly a train wreck, just as I said it would be.
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How so?
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Holy crap, just read back a few posts. You guys are manic fucktards.
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I think the “ummm” was a reference to Chingon and FSD being the same person.
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Well I never
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I think the “ummm” was a reference to Chingon and FSD being the same person.
O!
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That was our best chance, even with a better team next year.
Absolutely, this run was all luck
We had a 14 point lead with 2 minutes on a 8 seed that every national media peep was picking to win
We beat a 5 seed who was playing like a 3 seed the last 6 weeks (like Cal teams do)
Did both with basically nothing from Wade.
We lucked out 1 game. We played great in the the other 2 games
JFC MC, you are so drunk on Weber hate it's comical.
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We didn't luck out on any of the games.
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That was our best chance, even with a better team next year.
Absolutely, this run was all luck
We had a 14 point lead with 2 minutes on a 8 seed that every national media peep was picking to win
We beat a 5 seed who was playing like a 3 seed the last 6 weeks (like Cal teams do)
Did both with basically nothing from Wade.
We lucked out 1 game. We played great in the the other 2 games
JFC MC, you are so drunk on Weber hate it's comical.
Lucky draw, no way you can deny it. He definitely had his team play great 2 out of 4 games, though, so lets sign him up for a lifetime contract.
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You think 2010 makes an Elite 8 run with Denis out with injury??
Yeah it's possible, but not probable.
No 2018 team wasn't a top 20 team. But like u said it played great for 2 games minus a stud player.
Our best team played great for 3 with everyone healthy
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oscar Weber beats a hall of fame head coach with a team full of pros in a de facto home crowd without his best player and finishes the game with his tallest player on the floor at 6’3
Rusty-“ lucky draw man”
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Agree that anyone who wants to talk about “luck” should factor in the injury lottery we lost going into the postseason.
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Agree that anyone who wants to talk about “luck” should factor in the injury lottery we lost going into the postseason.
OK
*factoring*
We were still lucky that greatest upset in college basketball history happened and that we beat UK.
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I have no reason to believe that luck had anything to do with beating UK. I was encouraged after reading _fan's breakdown that, for whatever reason, we seem to match up well with long teams. I guess it is similar with how Loyola matched up with us.
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Luck had nothing to do with how any of our games played out. No seed in the tournament ended up with an easier path to the final 4 than we did, though. Had the team performed better throughout the season, we would have had a more difficult slate of teams to play despite getting a better seed. This is even true for all of the 1 seeds, except for Virginia, who had exactly the same path we had. That is luck.
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Well in that case I’m gonna call it bad luck we ended up playing Loyola. Give me Nevada any day over those guys. Would have given us the same seed total as Michigan and a much more realistic shot at a FF.
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It's pretty fascinating to watch the tennis match between luck and the stats side of this talk. The "we didn't have to play Virginia" and the "We did this without Wade"
Just be happy an E8 happened, a second weekend happened, and that we beat Calipari. oscar's teams seem to always crap the bed around 1 out of 3 or 4 games at least, and this time it happened against a team that shot lights out from 3 in a great chance for a FF. Of course it sucks, but it happened, and I will never be ashamed of this weird but fun E8 run. Heck, we might get another S16/E8 or if luck permits get the FF next year. You should always want more, but guise, enjoy the glow of team that shut down Marcus Foster, only 9 to beat a 6, and the first ksu-cats team that made a very happy Ernie Barrett by beating Kentucky.
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It's pretty fascinating to watch the tennis match between luck and the stats side of this talk. The "we didn't have to play Virginia" and the "We did this without Wade"
Just be happy an E8 happened, a second weekend happened, and that we beat Calipari. oscar's teams seem to always crap the bed around 1 out of 3 or 4 games at least, and this time it happened against a team that shot lights out from 3 in a great chance for a FF. Of course it sucks, but it happened, and I will never be ashamed of this weird but fun E8 run. Heck, we might get another S16/E8 or if luck permits get the FF next year. You should always want more, but guise, enjoy the glow of team that shut down Marcus Foster, only 9 to beat a 6, and the first ksu-cats team that made a very happy Ernie Barrett by beating Kentucky.
I'm very happy that it happened. I don't think anyone is ashamed of the run. You are kidding yourself and setting yourself up for a major disappointment next year if you don't see how luck played a role in all of this, though.
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Not having your all big 12 player able to play is definitely unlucky. We beat a Creighton team that beat Villanova this year, the tourney darlings, and an NBA team, so I think i'll stick to giving oscar and Co. some credit on this run.
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Assuming Wade comes back healthy I will be disappointed if we don't make the Sweet 16 next year. I will be ecstatic if we make the Elite Eight. Pretty thin margin, but that's what it is.
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No doubt getting to play UMBC was good fortune, but Creighton and Kentucky were both legitimate and solid tournament wins. No need to apologize for this run to the Elite 8 at all.
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Not having your all big 12 player able to play is definitely unlucky.
yes, it made the kentucky win much more improbable/lucky. UK was a really nice win, easily the best team KSU beat all year.
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UK was a really nice win, easily the best team KSU beat all year.
you called 2014 kstate (14.10) and 2017 kstate (17.44) indistinguishable, but claim kentucky (20.50) is "easily" better than tcu (18.53)?
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UK was a really nice win, easily the best team KSU beat all year.
you called 2014 kstate (14.10) and 2017 kstate (17.44) indistinguishable, but claim kentucky (20.50) is "easily" better than tcu (18.53)?
Hmmm looks like I was wrong. UK was not easily the best team KSU beat.
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heh. you were supposed to admit you were wrong about 2017 kstate.
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UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
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UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney team we've beaten in 30+ years
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It's pretty fascinating to watch the tennis match between luck and the stats side of this talk. The "we didn't have to play Virginia" and the "We did this without Wade"
Just be happy an E8 happened, a second weekend happened, and that we beat Calipari. oscar's teams seem to always crap the bed around 1 out of 3 or 4 games at least, and this time it happened against a team that shot lights out from 3 in a great chance for a FF. Of course it sucks, but it happened, and I will never be ashamed of this weird but fun E8 run. Heck, we might get another S16/E8 or if luck permits get the FF next year. You should always want more, but guise, enjoy the glow of team that shut down Marcus Foster, only 9 to beat a 6, and the first ksu-cats team that made a very happy Ernie Barrett by beating Kentucky.
I'm very happy that it happened. I don't think anyone is ashamed of the run. You are kidding yourself and setting yourself up for a major disappointment next year if you don't see how luck played a role in all of this, though.
Sure there is luck, and every team gets it, whether that is not facing VA or losing Wade for essentially the tourny. Also, no where did I say we will get a S16, E8 or FF, but that we have a chance. My expectation always regardless of how good our team is in the tourny is to make it to the 2nd weekend. Next year will be no different.
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UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney team we've beaten in 30+ years
One coils say that, but they would be wrong.
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UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney team we've beaten in 30+ years
One coils say that, but they would be wrong.
I think they are, they absolutely are but it really doesn't mean much given the relatively small sample size.
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Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.
This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.
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Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
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UK was far and away the most talented team we beat this season and maybe the most talented team Weber has beaten in his time at KSU.
One could say it's the most talented tourney team we've beaten in 30+ years
One coils say that, but they would be wrong.
I think they are, they absolutely are but it really doesn't mean much given the relatively small sample size.
yea they are for sure
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Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.
This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.
would it be better if we called it the "easiest path to the Elite Eight of any 9 seed in history" instead of "lucky"?
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the luck deniers are just making crap up in their non stop attempts to defend oscar. really shows how insecure some are in their love for oscar. but I get it, I really do.
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News flash, the entire tornament is a big cluster eff of randomness.
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News flash, the entire tornament is a big cluster eff of randomness.
answer my question
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I was replying to clams, not everything is about you
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Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.
This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.
would it be better if we called it the "easiest path to the Elite Eight of any 9 seed in history" instead of "lucky"?
Do whatever you want, that's a lot of qualifiers though.
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Also the conversation as to whether or not K-State is lucky and how lucky we were is silly. Every team playing in the elite eight, in the history of ever has a healthy amount of luck, stop acting like benefiting from luck is unique to anyone.
This is firmly in the making crap up wheelhouse of the people who make up basketball reasons for not liking oscar instead of his funny faces or squeaky voice.
would it be better if we called it the "easiest path to the Elite Eight of any 9 seed in history" instead of "lucky"?
Do whatever you want, that's a lot of qualifiers though.
Ok I'll stick with "lucky" then
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News flash, the entire tornament is a big cluster eff of randomness.
Exactly. It's why banking your fan feelings most entirely on the results of the tournament is foolhardy imo.
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maybe kstate will be a high seed next year.
I bet we're a 6
I was wrong!
What’s more likely:
Making the elite 8 again next year or not?
The tournament is a giant crap shoot. We got an enormous break with UMBC winning and turned it into a E8. We got to play an 11 to go to the final 4 and lost. We’ll be a 6 seed or something like that and get put out in the first or second round.
It's less of a crapshoot if you get a high seed. I think a first or second round exit sounds right next season.
I was right. :frown:
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