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Quote from: chum1 on March 12, 2020, 08:44:09 AMQuote from: michigancat on March 12, 2020, 08:41:57 AMQuote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on March 12, 2020, 08:40:06 AMYoung voters are fool's gold. Might not matter to Biden as much as the party if they're thinking long-term. they won't be young voters foreverUnfortunately, and I really wish it wasn't this way, but today's young progressives are tomorrow's moderate and conservative voters.oh, eff em then
Quote from: michigancat on March 12, 2020, 08:41:57 AMQuote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on March 12, 2020, 08:40:06 AMYoung voters are fool's gold. Might not matter to Biden as much as the party if they're thinking long-term. they won't be young voters foreverUnfortunately, and I really wish it wasn't this way, but today's young progressives are tomorrow's moderate and conservative voters.
Quote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on March 12, 2020, 08:40:06 AMYoung voters are fool's gold. Might not matter to Biden as much as the party if they're thinking long-term. they won't be young voters forever
Young voters are fool's gold.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 12, 2020, 09:03:30 AMIt's just pragmatic for an older person heavily invested in the market to not vote for economic disruption.will millennials be as heavily invested in the market as boomers or even gen x'ers?
It's just pragmatic for an older person heavily invested in the market to not vote for economic disruption.
Quote from: michigancat on March 12, 2020, 08:54:40 AMQuote from: chum1 on March 12, 2020, 08:44:09 AMQuote from: michigancat on March 12, 2020, 08:41:57 AMQuote from: Libdork.9 rolled back from 1.0 on March 12, 2020, 08:40:06 AMYoung voters are fool's gold. Might not matter to Biden as much as the party if they're thinking long-term. they won't be young voters foreverUnfortunately, and I really wish it wasn't this way, but today's young progressives are tomorrow's moderate and conservative voters.oh, eff em thenLol. I don't mean that they don't deserve any representation. But, yeah, your representation will be limited if you don't vote. That's how it works. Obviously.
Sanders has been winning the 30-44 bracket consistently too. Seems dumb to assume that in 10 years those folks will vote like boomers did at the same age but I'll trust the republican experts
And progressives during the old zoomer era will think Bernie is an establishment cuck who isn't doing enough to get their vote
The fact that young progressives become moderates who become old conservatives is absolutely a fact. And will always be a fact. But, what is progressive/moderate/conservative will change gradually, like it always has. And I’ll vote Biden and would have voted Bernie while holding my nose if he had won. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Holy crap that's old.
Obama showed you can appeal to the youth without handing elections to republicans and was perceived as the progressive choice in the primary. Trump just mindfucked everyone
Quote from: michigancat on March 12, 2020, 09:57:45 AMObama showed you can appeal to the youth without handing elections to republicans and was perceived as the progressive choice in the primary. Trump just mindfucked everyoneDennis Kucinich and John Edwards are rolling over in their rough ridin' graves.
I think the bigger thing about the 2020 race is if Coronavirus put the Dow Jones/S&P 500 below 18K, it's reasonable to think Trump would cancel the elections "for public safety" and to be rescheduled at a future time....the Senate GOP would be in danger of losing control and go along with it...the SCOTUS realizing Trump would get another 2-3 Judges probably in a year or two...would say it's constitutional. Election would be scheduled of course after so long of a time...that Trump gets to choose
what could we even do if he did delay it tho
The population is moving left, just not as quickly as you and mir want. When millenials vote in boomer numbers, I doubt it will be for a Bernie type, probably more of a moderate progressive. The zoomers might finally vote in a Bernie.
Quote from: michigancat on March 12, 2020, 09:22:12 AMSanders has been winning the 30-44 bracket consistently too. Seems dumb to assume that in 10 years those folks will vote like boomers did at the same age but I'll trust the republican experts I'm as far left as anyone here. Maybe farther. I also understand that social progress is SLOW and that the more elections Republicans win, the less progress is made.
The Republican Party has consciously moved hard right twice in our lifetime. The Contract With America was a response to the Clinton election. The Tea Party was a response to the Obama election. The blue wave and progressives getting a voice in the house was a response to the trump election. There is no reason for you to think that a moderate democrat getting elected will do anything to appreciably push a liberal agenda. It's literally never been done since LBJ. The Democratic Party has not shown the backbone to move anywhere close to left of center in our lifetime with a presidential win.