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Quote from: sys on February 15, 2019, 12:36:10 AMbeto's not afraid to make the case for immigration and border reform. https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/the-border-has-never-been-as-safe-and-secure-as-it-is-now-1442974787669Did I miss something? Who is?
beto's not afraid to make the case for immigration and border reform. https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/the-border-has-never-been-as-safe-and-secure-as-it-is-now-1442974787669
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 15, 2019, 01:00:50 PMIs this where we discuss the litany of unaware white Berniebots professing on twitter that "Barbara Lee is canceled" because she had the temerity to endorse Kamala Harris?I follow more than a few of them and haven't seen evidence of this beyond: "I obviously really respect Barbara Lee but I think she is wrong about this."
Is this where we discuss the litany of unaware white Berniebots professing on twitter that "Barbara Lee is canceled" because she had the temerity to endorse Kamala Harris?
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 15, 2019, 12:56:27 PMQuote from: sys on February 15, 2019, 12:36:10 AMbeto's not afraid to make the case for immigration and border reform. https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/the-border-has-never-been-as-safe-and-secure-as-it-is-now-1442974787669Did I miss something? Who is?i'd love it if you can show me any of them addressing the issue in anything other that anti-trump platitudes. i guess harris has proposed h-1b quota reform, but that'd like, almost offensively minor in ambition.
Quote from: Kat Kid on February 15, 2019, 04:08:13 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on February 15, 2019, 01:00:50 PMIs this where we discuss the litany of unaware white Berniebots professing on twitter that "Barbara Lee is canceled" because she had the temerity to endorse Kamala Harris?I follow more than a few of them and haven't seen evidence of this beyond: "I obviously really respect Barbara Lee but I think she is wrong about this."Yeah it hasn't got much traction all. I bet some of the absurd Bernie haters are pushing this narrative pretty hard though
Not addressing it doesn't mean they don't believe it should be a priority. It will certainly come through in the debates, it's not an issue you stump on unless you are from a border town.Border security and immigration reform have been tackled by the last two Democrat presidents. Just because there's pushback on what Trump considers immigration reform doesn't mean there's a million miles of space for others to fit in. I want to abolish ice but that doesn't mean I don't think there should be millions, if not billions spent to technology at the borders, not enough focus on the northern border.
Quote from: michigancat on February 15, 2019, 08:42:35 PMQuote from: Kat Kid on February 15, 2019, 04:08:13 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on February 15, 2019, 01:00:50 PMIs this where we discuss the litany of unaware white Berniebots professing on twitter that "Barbara Lee is canceled" because she had the temerity to endorse Kamala Harris?I follow more than a few of them and haven't seen evidence of this beyond: "I obviously really respect Barbara Lee but I think she is wrong about this."Yeah it hasn't got much traction all. I bet some of the absurd Bernie haters are pushing this narrative pretty hard thoughNo, it was definitely Bernie supporters, I mean all you have to do do is search Barbara Lee cancelled on twitter. There were several others not using her full name. Needless to say, I was disappointed. I was a Bernie Sanders delegate for heaven's sakes. There was a strong contingent of African Americans leery of Bernie Sanders supporters and their reaction to that endorsement didn't help and was the first real sign I saw that they may have a point.
Quote from: MakeItRain on February 16, 2019, 10:20:26 PMNot addressing it doesn't mean they don't believe it should be a priority. It will certainly come through in the debates, it's not an issue you stump on unless you are from a border town.Border security and immigration reform have been tackled by the last two Democrat presidents. Just because there's pushback on what Trump considers immigration reform doesn't mean there's a million miles of space for others to fit in. I want to abolish ice but that doesn't mean I don't think there should be millions, if not billions spent to technology at the borders, not enough focus on the northern border.i mean, yeah that's what it means. candidates talk about their priorities. and every president since reagan has been a complete failure on immigration and worse on the border.
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I think Bernie sucks, personally.
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 19, 2019, 10:32:37 AMI think Bernie sucks, personally.But do you blame him for getting Trump elected or think he's a maniacal racist and misogynist?
Quote from: michigancat on February 19, 2019, 11:12:14 AMQuote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 19, 2019, 10:32:37 AMI think Bernie sucks, personally.But do you blame him for getting Trump elected or think he's a maniacal racist and misogynist?I think Bernie sucks for reasons unrelated to those itemsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sys, I saw a tweet likening Bernie '16 to Santorum '12. Santorum was the "conservative" candidate to oppose Romney and got like 20% primary votes and won a handful of states. In '16 with a large field he got under 1 percent of primary votes.