2020 presidential candidate 'crats

[Rage Against the McKee]

Sys, I saw a tweet likening Bernie '16 to Santorum '12. Santorum was the "conservative" candidate to oppose Romney and got like 20% primary votes and won a handful of states. In '16 with a large field he got under 1 percent of primary votes.

I think Santorum or someone like him will make a strong showing in 2024. The republicans are sure to reflect on what has happened at some point and decide that they strayed too far from their core Christian values when they decided Donald Trump was the right man for president.

[star seed 7]

Yeah, I don't expect that low either, but the large field will definitely hurt him.

Also when you Google Bernie 2020 the first result is an ad for Warren 2020

https://twitter.com/eaweiss/status/1097880115323777027

[michigancat]

Yeah, I don't expect that low either, but the large field will definitely hurt him.

Also when you Google Bernie 2020 the first result is an ad for Warren 2020

https://twitter.com/eaweiss/status/1097880115323777027

I mean you just pay google for that

[star seed 7]

Oh, no kidding?

[sys]

like, traditionally, candidates drop out of primaries pretty quick, mostly because they run out of money.  i'm not sure candidates are going to run out of money so fast in 2020.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1097881486588444673

[wetwillie]

He raises money very well

[Institutional Control]

I think we can go ahead and call this thing for Pete now.

Pete 2020

[star seed 7]

I think we can go ahead and call this thing for Pete now.

Pete 2020

 

[sys]

2nd choice data!  22% of liz lads switch to sanders; 16% of bernie bros switch to warren.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

[steve dave]

2nd choice data!  22% of liz lads switch to sanders; 16% of bernie bros switch to warren.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

Those numbers are shockingly far from the 100%s I was expecting


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[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I am super excited that Bernie is officially in the race. He’s like the Dem version of Dr. Ron Paul in terms of annoying the other Dems and damaging their primary, but much more entertaining. Yes please!

Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren.... My gawd the liberals are going to absolutely piss away money this primary. Man it’s gonna be fun watching them try to out-crazy each other.

Ok, anyway, I have to acknowledge I can’t objectively evaluate this field. Progressivism is just too foreign a concept for my right-wing brain. For example, I cannot even fathom any of the foregoing clowns beating Trump (and that’s saying something, because I don’t have a high opinion of Trump).

During the 2016 GOP primary, I saw several candidates who I thought could both win the primary and the general. Trump wasn’t one of them, so that’s another strike against me. But I thought we had a handful of strong candidates that would do quite well against Hillary.

So give me your honest opinion, libs. Who do you think have the best shot of winning the primary, and who do you think is the best matchup for Trump. Please don’t cite any of the bullshit polling - it’s worthless. I want your gut take as a liberal. I’m not gonna laugh at you. Do you want a moderate, and if so who is that and how do they win the primary? Do you want a liberal champion? How do you figure someone on the far left winning the general?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think Kamala would be the strongest candidate in the general election. I think her proposal give low income earners an extra $6,000 per year would be an interesting social experiment to see if Trump's base likes money more than racism and misogyny. My gut tells me Beto comes out of the primaries, though. No real reason there. I don't like Trump's chances against anyone.

[Trim]

I’m in with Pete at this point because I don’t know who’s actually being talked about there and read the posts as being about our Pete.

[catastrophe]

I think Kamala would be the strongest candidate in the general election. I think her proposal give low income earners an extra $6,000 per year would be an interesting social experiment to see if Trump's base likes money more than racism and misogyny. My gut tells me Beto comes out of the primaries, though. No real reason there. I don't like Trump's chances against anyone.

I think you’re forgetting that Trump’s base, despite being very poor overall, see themselves as a couple years away from being very rich and therefore resent poor people getting any kind of handouts from the hard earned millions they’re about to hard earn but haven’t hard earned yet.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think Kamala would be the strongest candidate in the general election. I think her proposal give low income earners an extra $6,000 per year would be an interesting social experiment to see if Trump's base likes money more than racism and misogyny. My gut tells me Beto comes out of the primaries, though. No real reason there. I don't like Trump's chances against anyone.

I think you’re forgetting that Trump’s base, despite being very poor overall, see themselves as a couple years away from being very rich and therefore resent poor people getting any kind of handouts from the hard earned millions they’re about to hard earn but haven’t hard earned yet.

$500 per month covers rent for a lot of them. It is a huge pay increase. I don't think they will be able to easily brush it aside. They will consider it a hand up, while still considering most other government programs hand outs.

[michigancat]

Decent thread

https://twitter.com/samsanders/status/1097952991078805504

[sys]

Who do you think have the best shot of winning the primary, and who do you think is the best matchup for Trump. Do you want a moderate, and if so who is that and how do they win the primary? Do you want a liberal champion? How do you figure someone on the far left winning the general?

1) harris.
2) brown.
3) i'd prolly prefer beto.  not sure who you consider moderate and who you don't (for my purposes here, call moderates: biden, booker, klobuchar and some western gov or senator).  if biden runs, he prolly just has to not eff up and not look too old (i don't think he will run).  if booker consolidates the black vote he probably wins.  klobuchar has to win iowa and then be the only moderate left standing.  the anon westerner has to do the same but prolly can't.
4) dunno what that means.
5) sanders or warren would probably have the same strategy as any other dem, except sanders would maybe lean heavier on the upper midwest.

[sys]

i don't think this is a winning argument.

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1097909024673185793

[steve dave]

chuckled at this

https://twitter.com/kashanacauley/status/1097872478729203712?s=21


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[gatoveintisiete]

  at Booker winning, he cant orate like Obama, he comes across angry, he actually has a record and its not good, and we are living in a post Obama world.  He has no prayer, anyone who thinks differently doesn't have a clue.

[sys]

at Booker winning, he cant orate like Obama, he comes across angry, he actually has a record and its not good, and we are living in a post Obama world.  He has no prayer, anyone who thinks differently doesn't have a clue.

"comes off as angry".  good lord.

[gatoveintisiet]

 would win good grief

[gatoveintisiete]

he's not angry? I was afraid he would eat the peoples faces off at the hearings

[sys]

most people think his political personality challenge is convincing people that he actually is a giant goofy ball of hugs and not a slick politician pretending to be the friendliest person in the world.

[star seed 7]

Booker is grandstanding, not angry