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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2017, 11:03:29 AM »
I can't count on much from Stokes outside of a few hilarious TO's. I can't picture is scoring enough to win.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2017, 11:22:15 AM »
Quote from: Dlew12 on March 14, 2017, 09:58:03 AM
The line just moved big time in K-State's direction.  Anyone have any clue why?

Moved big in our direction the day we played Baylor too!!
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2017, 11:24:24 AM »
Vegas insider on 810 right now. Says Wake's defense is hot garbage.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2017, 11:32:50 AM »
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 14, 2017, 11:24:24 AM
Vegas insider on 810 right now. Says Wake's defense is hot garbage.

Seems like your gE insider already told you this....

Quote from: ksu_FWN on March 12, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
Great offense, bad defense, fast pace.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2017, 11:37:27 AM »
 :D :cheers:
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2017, 11:38:29 AM »
This game is on too early. :frown:
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2017, 12:13:56 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FWN on March 14, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 14, 2017, 11:24:24 AM
Vegas insider on 810 right now. Says Wake's defense is hot garbage.

Seems like your gE insider already told you this....

Quote from: ksu_FWN on March 12, 2017, 08:28:28 PM
Great offense, bad defense, fast pace.

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This is why I pay premium for this site.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2017, 12:34:01 PM »
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Kansas State (PK) over Wake Forest: Kansas State is a team that I didn't think deserved a spot in the NCAA Tournament due to a very mediocre non-conference strength of schedule, conference W-L record, and RPI Top 50/100 records. That said, they are better than their resume, suffering from a little bit of bad luck in close games. Also, the Big 12 was just ridiculously strong, with no opportunities for easy victories. Both of these teams have mismatches, from Kansas State's pressure defense to Wake Forest's John Collins inside, but when all else fails I give the coaching advantage to oscar Weber. Criticize Weber's recruiting all you want, but he's one of the best game coaches that you'll find in Division I basketball.

http://basketballpredictions.blogspot.com/2017/03/day-1-picking-lines.html
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2017, 12:44:24 PM »
"Jeff" really needs to up his troll game
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2017, 12:59:03 PM »
Also, people seem to be talking about how our defense has picked up lately and that's why we won 3 of our last 4.

Well, that's not really true.

We gave up 1.14 points per possession when we beat TCU.

We gave up 1.09 ppp when we beat Baylor.

We did play great defense against Tech (.75 ppp), but Tech wasn't very good either. Also, we played great defense against WVU (.86 ppp) but we lost.

Even going back to our other win lately, we gave up 1.07 ppp to a pretty bad Texas offense.

The key to winning those games was making shots. 53% from 3 at Texas. 43% from 3 at TCU. 43% from 3 against Baylor.

We need to play decent defense against Wake tonight, hopefully allowing no more than 1.08 ppp or so; but if we don't make shots and shoot 40% from 3 and over 55% eFG% it won't matter.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2017, 01:14:03 PM »
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 14, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
Wake Favorited by 1 on Brovada. Easy $. Take the cats!
Bovada seems to be having some technical difficulties. Are you able to login?

Asking for a friend....
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2017, 01:15:50 PM »
Yes sir. My friend did it first thing this morning.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2017, 01:18:22 PM »
Quote from: WackyCat08 on March 14, 2017, 01:15:50 PM
Yes sir. My friend did it first thing this morning.
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Maybe their servers are struggling to keep up with so many people betting on the Cats. I'll tell my friend to try again later.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2017, 01:29:20 PM »
If we can hold Wake to 1.08 PPP or under, I really like our chances (maybe even 1.10, with Wake D being as bad as I think it is)

Last 6 Conference games on road & 2 games in KC..  our team did allow 1.03 PPP (541 pts 527 Poss)
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2017, 01:45:19 PM »
Ok, guys, what is a good PPP #?  I don't follow that crap and don't understand it all that well...

Is under 1.0 good, average, or bad?
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2017, 01:51:46 PM »
Quote from: PIPE on March 14, 2017, 01:45:19 PM
Ok, guys, what is a good PPP #?  I don't follow that crap and don't understand it all that well...

Is under 1.0 good, average, or bad?
points per possession
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2017, 02:24:25 PM »
Quote from: PIPE on March 14, 2017, 01:45:19 PM
Ok, guys, what is a good PPP #?  I don't follow that crap and don't understand it all that well...

Is under 1.0 good, average, or bad?

NCAA average is 1.05 ppp, maybe some of this makes more sense knowing that.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2017, 02:27:56 PM »
Maybe I'm reading it wrong but Wakes record looks awful against decent teams.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2017, 02:29:31 PM »
Like why were analysts saying we shouldn't have made it in, but WF did. ACC bias?
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2017, 02:34:47 PM »
Quote from: SdK on March 14, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
Like why were analysts saying we shouldn't have made it in, but WF did. ACC bias?


Many were saying they (Wake) didn't deserve to be in either.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2017, 02:40:24 PM »
guys remember how much fun it is to go deep into the tourney??..  I'd really like to have that happen again
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2017, 02:40:57 PM »
No one in a play in game deserves to be in
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2017, 02:48:46 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 14, 2017, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: SdK on March 14, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
Like why were analysts saying we shouldn't have made it in, but WF did. ACC bias?


Many were saying they (Wake) didn't deserve to be in either.
Maybe I'm watching the wrong coverage. I've binging on this espn jazz
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2017, 02:59:37 PM »
Quote from: SdK on March 14, 2017, 02:27:56 PM
Maybe I'm reading it wrong but Wakes record looks awful against decent teams.

2-11 vs KenPom top 50 (3-10 vs RPI top 50) isn't anything to brag about, no doubt.  They went 10-10 vs ACC teams. 6 of those wins came against 13th,14th,15th place teams. Also beat 11 seed once.

They were also 1-10 away from home vs Top 100 RPI in the Power 6 BB conferences.  So it's easy to see why they barely got in like us
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2017, 03:22:20 PM »
Quote from: pissclams on March 14, 2017, 12:44:24 PM
"Jeff" really needs to up his troll game



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