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If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« on: March 12, 2017, 06:32:25 PM »
Here are their player stats. I'll try to get some team stats later. Plenty of places to talk about your hatred for oscar, talk about the game(s) in the NCAA tournament here.





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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 06:34:28 PM »
what did they finish kenpom like mid 30's?
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 06:35:37 PM »
I've watched one of their games. They're not very talented.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 06:36:10 PM »
what did they finish kenpom like mid 30's?

30, one spot behind us.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 06:36:46 PM »
LOL so is John Collins all they have or what?
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 06:40:12 PM »
I think DJamer is going to foul out of this contest. 
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 06:41:33 PM »
I think DJamer is going to foul out of this contest.
Hopefully no one dunks in pre game! :Carl:
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2017, 06:45:20 PM »
Massey formula says "Cats by 3" with a  58% win probability on neutral court.

http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=292154&t0=Kansas+State&h=0&s1=292154&t1=Wake+Forest

bears are fast...

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 08:28:28 PM »
Sort of the ACC version of Oklahoma State. Great offense, bad defense, fast pace. Of course, their best player is a post and OSU is guard oriented.




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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 08:33:16 PM »
can you get stats for the starting 5 median AND mean bicep circumferences? I have an algo that will perfectly predict the outcome of this game based on those 2 inputs.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2017, 08:34:37 PM »
alternatively if someone would just post a photo of each bicep in question I can extrapolate the necessary data using modern analysis techniques.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 08:54:32 PM »
They don't TO the ball much.
They get to the line a decent amount, and they make them. 77% on FTs.
Teams shoot a lot of 3s against them. Almost 40% of shots by their ACC opponents were 3PA

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2017, 09:49:35 PM »
I've actually seen Wake in person twice since I've last seen K-State. I don't think they're very good at all. DJamer won't guard Collins, that will be Dean-o. DJamer will guard Mitoglu, who I actually like, he's solid but unremarkable, decent defender. Our guards should eat them up, they aren't deadly shooters, the lottery should be interesting.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2017, 10:49:13 PM »
I've actually seen Wake in person twice since I've last seen K-State. I don't think they're very good at all. DJamer won't guard Collins, that will be Dean-o. DJamer will guard Mitoglu, who I actually like, he's solid but unremarkable, decent defender. Our guards should eat them up, they aren't deadly shooters, the lottery should be interesting.

What games did you attend??

Collins has gotten to the FT more the 2nd half of the year. He attempted 5.1 the first 17 games. Attempted 8.3 the last 15.  He looks like someone who may be prone to foul trouble. Plays about 2/3 of the game. I noticed that in 10 of the past 21 games, he has had 4 or 5 fouls

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2017, 10:50:26 PM »
I am concerned that Arians, the 6-6 grad transfer from Milwaukee that shot 40% from 3 might get lucky

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2017, 11:12:25 PM »
I've actually seen Wake in person twice since I've last seen K-State. I don't think they're very good at all. DJamer won't guard Collins, that will be Dean-o. DJamer will guard Mitoglu, who I actually like, he's solid but unremarkable, decent defender. Our guards should eat them up, they aren't deadly shooters, the lottery should be interesting.

What games did you attend??

Collins has gotten to the FT more the 2nd half of the year. He attempted 5.1 the first 17 games. Attempted 8.3 the last 15.  He looks like someone who may be prone to foul trouble. Plays about 2/3 of the game. I noticed that in 10 of the past 21 games, he has had 4 or 5 fouls

I saw them beat Georgia Tech last season and I saw them lose to Northwestern this year. Collins will pick up some fouls crashing the boards. I'll be interested in seeing how aggressive Dean-o will be driving the ball, he normally doesn't have a player as big as Collins on him.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2017, 11:44:59 PM »
Brown needs to have game face on defensively. Crawford has been ave 18.5 the past 12 games. 73-85 on FTs in those games.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2017, 07:03:28 AM »
More advanced stats. Breakdown of each team vs kenpom top 50, top 100, and top 100 road/neutral.

The Cats have performed better vs every group, though our slower pace/decent defense/poor offense vs their faster pace/decent offense/poor defense creates a very interesting match up.


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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2017, 08:31:46 AM »
slower pace ?  we're hyper aggressive.


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2017, 08:38:08 AM »


I'll be interested in seeing how aggressive Dean-o will be driving the ball, he normally doesn't have a player as big as Collins on him.

I'm gonna go hyper-insightful and say "not very"

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2017, 08:54:06 AM »
Dean aggressive? Never seen it.
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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2017, 09:36:26 AM »
you guys remember the last time we played a Crawford in the NC twoA's??
We're looking at a triple OT and our guys being too tired for Fridays contest

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2017, 09:48:45 AM »
If we play fast paced, we're playing thier game, going to lose.

When we are actively trying to slow down the pace, our Off. Ef falls of the chart, we lose.

Outlook not good at this time.  Does oscar get the boot for 5 years w/out NCAA win?

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Re: If you want to talk about the game against Wake Forest
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2017, 09:50:24 AM »


If we play fast paced, we're playing thier game, going to lose.


I disagree