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I'd say "Nazi" has gained a whole lot of meaning in political discourse, honestly. You never actually saw people flying Nazi flags in public when I was a kid. Feels a lot less hyperbolic knowing that these types are around and politically active.

yeah.
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I'd say "Nazi" has gained a whole lot of meaning in political discourse, honestly. You never actually saw people flying Nazi flags in public when I was a kid. Feels a lot less hyperbolic knowing that these types are around and politically active.

Hey, now. They prefer to be called Christian nationalists

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SOCIALIST IS IN THE NAME!

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Man, 'evil' has lost all meaning in political discourse. Much like 'nazi'.

Jesus Christ.

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Man, 'evil' has lost all meaning in political discourse. Much like 'nazi'.
I’m honestly interested in the adjective you’d use.

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The people who think transgender people are pretending to be someone they’re not want to preclude them from … acting?

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The people who think transgender people are pretending to be someone they’re not want to preclude them from … acting?
It really is a hell of a foil to the “we just want fairness in competition” talking point.

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The people who think transgender people are pretending to be someone they’re not want to preclude them from … acting?
It really is a hell of a foil to the “we just want fairness in competition” talking point.

Maybe the administrators thought a female puberty gave the kid an unfair advantage in singing? Or maybe it's just that they're really mean to kids who are different?

Who knows, what's really important is we use the correct language to describe the adults making rules ensuring that kids are only playing roles in a school play that match their birth sex

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Guys, do we think the ACLU lawyer should tone down this rhetoric a bit?

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This Sherman ISD decision unfortunately is an example of this extreme anti-transgender animus that we are seeing here in Texas and across the country

I think we'd be better served calling this "anti-transgender-lite" because it's not like the kid got beat up, he just got called names and followed to the bathroom and pulled from school stayed in a hotel for a few days:

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After local broadcast station KXII reported on the play’s postponement, Max said the atmosphere at school has completely shifted. Students follow him around and have called him transphobic names. His parents pulled him from school and opted to stay in a hotel for the later part of the week.

“People were trying to follow me to the bathroom to see which one I'd go into,” Max said.

I personally think it's great we are discussing how to best describe the administrators that protected cis boys acting roles - it's a healthy debate that hopefully won't make the adults feel too bad or dilute words too much. I think we should put these adults somewhere between "silly geese" and "drama queens" and not "anti-trans" or god forbid "evil". If you call them more intense than "drama queens", then they might dig in their heels and go from "anti-trans-lite" to "anti-trans-medium".

What do you all think?

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oh crap, we can't call these administrators "drama queens", because there might have been men making these decisions! And you can't misgender people (birth sex only) because it will hurt their feelings. Maybe call them "drama people" or "drama monarchs"? But that is too PC? Oh no, what will we call these people.

I think we should stick with "silly geese" to both be safe with gendering and to highlight the lighthearted nature of this rule they passed.

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Time for you to hop back in the pond if you're going to act like a silly goose

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Man, 'evil' has lost all meaning in political discourse. Much like 'nazi'.

Jesus Christ.

I didn't think that statement would be controversial.  :shy:

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Man, 'evil' has lost all meaning in political discourse. Much like 'nazi'.

Jesus Christ.

I didn't think that statement would be controversial.  :shy:

I think it's controversial only from those who think that action is actually evil. obviously people who think it's ok to do that to those kids would also be surprised by the reaction. good comparison with "nazi" too.

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Man, 'evil' has lost all meaning in political discourse. Much like 'nazi'.

Jesus Christ.

I didn't think that statement would be controversial.  :shy:

I think it's controversial only from those who think that action is actually evil. obviously people who think it's ok to do that to those kids would also be surprised by the reaction. good comparison with "nazi" too.

I don't even know why someone wrote the story. It's just adults protecting children, and we needed a big old story about it in Texas Monthly? Sheesh. :dunno:

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What happened to the good old days when we just harassed the gays? One day, everyone was like, "Aight, guess the gays won," and we had to move onto trans folk.

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What happened to the good old days when we just harassed the gays? One day, everyone was like, "Aight, guess the gays won," and we had to move onto trans folk.




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You know what makes me sick to my stomach? When I hear grown people say that kids have changed. Kids haven’t changed. Kids don’t know anything about anything We’ve changed as adults. We demand less of kids. We expect less of kids. We make their lives easier instead of preparing them for what life is truly about. We’re the ones that have changed. To blame kids is a cop-out.

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These silly geese just want to protect their kids

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"The non-binary and transgender extravaganza on display this Thanksgiving will be brought to you by Macy's during their annually sponsored Thanksgiving Day Parade," the petition, organized by One Million Moms, reads.

"Unless they are forewarned about it, this year's holiday parade will potentially expose tens of millions of viewers at home to the liberal LGBTQ agenda."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/thousands-sign-petition-macys-non-binary-trans-extravaganza-planned-thanksgiving-day-parade
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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These silly geese just want to protect their kids

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"The non-binary and transgender extravaganza on display this Thanksgiving will be brought to you by Macy's during their annually sponsored Thanksgiving Day Parade," the petition, organized by One Million Moms, reads.

"Unless they are forewarned about it, this year's holiday parade will potentially expose tens of millions of viewers at home to the liberal LGBTQ agenda."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/thousands-sign-petition-macys-non-binary-trans-extravaganza-planned-thanksgiving-day-parade

I miss the good old days when the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade was a safe space for youth to not be exposed to the gay agenda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ui1Gv69fWw&t=58s


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Is it fair for Transgenders to compete in sports as who they think they are? No
« Reply #1368 on: November 14, 2023, 07:43:17 PM »
These silly geese just want to protect their kids

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"The non-binary and transgender extravaganza on display this Thanksgiving will be brought to you by Macy's during their annually sponsored Thanksgiving Day Parade," the petition, organized by One Million Moms, reads.

"Unless they are forewarned about it, this year's holiday parade will potentially expose tens of millions of viewers at home to the liberal LGBTQ agenda."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/thousands-sign-petition-macys-non-binary-trans-extravaganza-planned-thanksgiving-day-parade
It still boggles my mind how many conservative thinkers are like, “damnit every time someone gets exposed to other ideas they stop being as conservative as me . . . obviously we need to stop letting our kids hear other points of view!”


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Sorry cis-gendered females, with the muscle of cis-gendered #blueanon males behind this movement, you don't stand a chance.   :frown:  Their message to you . . . you do not matter anymore.

Yet many issues affecting women, such as FGM, child marriage and forced marriage, reproductive rights, male violence against women and girls, rape as a war crime, pregnancy and maternity healthcare, and more, are inextricably linked with our female biology. How can this person be a champion of women if these issues are deemed unmentionable?”

https://twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1742255085240090762?s=20

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-model-shouldnt-represent-british-women-un-told-nsr0j02wc
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Is it fair for Transgenders to compete in sports as who they think they are? No
« Reply #1371 on: January 03, 2024, 02:58:47 PM »
I’m getting a paywall. Post the article, Dax!

From what I can see it looks like there is a disagreement among two private advocacy groups over who should represent one of them.

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Is it fair for Transgenders to compete in sports as who they think they are? No
« Reply #1372 on: January 04, 2024, 08:25:36 AM »
The UN is a private advocacy group?

Interesting if true.
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That’s why I’m asking the expert. It’s hard to tell what their relationship is to any government sponsored activity from what you shared. It seems like a difference in opinion between groups that have the right to different opinions.

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It's aseries of groups asking why the UN is appointing a biological male to the position stated.

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