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Quote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.
However, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.Yeshttps://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/1086109641803730944
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...
Quote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)
Quote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:07:58 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)I'm talking about the prospect of a jury in a federal criminal trial. It only takes one juror.
FBI Agent: Boss we got him to admit to lying to Congress.Mueller: Well if he’s such a liar why should we believe him?
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:18:21 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:07:58 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)I'm talking about the prospect of a jury in a federal criminal trial. It only takes one juror.this did not really answer my question.
we're not talking about a criminal trial here so none of that crap matters.
Quote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:20:32 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:18:21 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:07:58 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)I'm talking about the prospect of a jury in a federal criminal trial. It only takes one juror.this did not really answer my question.Some jurors might in fact think that if you lie about one thing, you can't be trusted about other things. Yes. Especially if you have an incentive to lie, combined with the fact that you're already a known liar. It's not far fetched to assume at least one out of a group of twelve people could feel that way.
Quote from: sys on January 17, 2019, 10:21:30 PMwe're not talking about a criminal trial here so none of that crap matters.I'm sorry, I thought you said you wanted him to face criminal charges? But anyway, if they have other documentary evidence, then Cohen's testimony is not dispositive, and it's a moot point.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:22:51 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:20:32 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:18:21 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:07:58 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)I'm talking about the prospect of a jury in a federal criminal trial. It only takes one juror.this did not really answer my question.Some jurors might in fact think that if you lie about one thing, you can't be trusted about other things. Yes. Especially if you have an incentive to lie, combined with the fact that you're already a known liar. It's not far fetched to assume at least one out of a group of twelve people could feel that way.I can see this. As someone trying to "use" his testimony I would think you couldn't use his testimony alone to prove any point. Of course if I was a juror I'd always think this. I'd need more than one person's "memory" of a situation to be very impactful to my decision. Wouldn't any good lawyer or whatever have a person's testimony then backed up by some other evidence? If not, lawyers aren't very smart, or jurors aren't.
Jurors aren’t very smart, Phil.
Quote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:40:42 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:22:51 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:20:32 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:18:21 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:07:58 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)I'm talking about the prospect of a jury in a federal criminal trial. It only takes one juror.this did not really answer my question.Some jurors might in fact think that if you lie about one thing, you can't be trusted about other things. Yes. Especially if you have an incentive to lie, combined with the fact that you're already a known liar. It's not far fetched to assume at least one out of a group of twelve people could feel that way.I can see this. As someone trying to "use" his testimony I would think you couldn't use his testimony alone to prove any point. Of course if I was a juror I'd always think this. I'd need more than one person's "memory" of a situation to be very impactful to my decision. Wouldn't any good lawyer or whatever have a person's testimony then backed up by some other evidence? If not, lawyers aren't very smart, or jurors aren't.Yes, so if they do indeed have tangible evidence, that's way more important than whatever Cohen says.
Quote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:46:58 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:40:42 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:22:51 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:20:32 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:18:21 PMQuote from: Phil Titola on January 17, 2019, 10:07:58 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 10:01:11 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:58:20 PMQuote from: Cat from DC on January 17, 2019, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: Spracne on January 17, 2019, 09:48:30 PMHowever, Cohen's credibility as a witness is questionable.Straight from the Presidents mouth.P sure any of the other lawyers on here would agree with me on this point, sport.No doubt. Your expedience to defend your dear leader on the other hand...Think whatever you want, shitwit. Cohen is a bad witness.not a lawyer -> so if cohen is found as a shady witness on one thing is he tainted on all things? That would be pretty sly of trump to keep a crap lawyer so he could leak Cohen being shady on one thing and invalidate his testimony on all things Trump even being Trumps point fixer guy. 4d chess (or maybe just regular chess for a shady guy like DJT)I'm talking about the prospect of a jury in a federal criminal trial. It only takes one juror.this did not really answer my question.Some jurors might in fact think that if you lie about one thing, you can't be trusted about other things. Yes. Especially if you have an incentive to lie, combined with the fact that you're already a known liar. It's not far fetched to assume at least one out of a group of twelve people could feel that way.I can see this. As someone trying to "use" his testimony I would think you couldn't use his testimony alone to prove any point. Of course if I was a juror I'd always think this. I'd need more than one person's "memory" of a situation to be very impactful to my decision. Wouldn't any good lawyer or whatever have a person's testimony then backed up by some other evidence? If not, lawyers aren't very smart, or jurors aren't.Yes, so if they do indeed have tangible evidence, that's way more important than whatever Cohen says.This seems like a no brainer comment that everybody gets though? So the original comment of cohen being credible is moot. You'd always need better evidence even if Cohen was a choir boy?
breaking the quote chain...Unless Cohen dishing is getting to dear leader. That's well worth the media attention that doesn't need any juror...which is probably the larger point to all of this, not just a criminal trial.
Cohen was Trump’s personal attorney. He had his apartment raided while he was still working as Trump’s attorney. The idea that there wouldn’t be evidence to back up the claims he makes is laughable.