Official 2016 Coaching Carousel (football edition)

[MakeItRain]

Oh okay.

How much more experienced Ron Prince than Venables in 2004?

He had been a coordinator of an average offense for 3 years and only been coaching at a P5 school for 5.

Venables has been coordinator or co-coordinator for 18 years for 2 major programs competing for league and national titles.

I don't think they are comparable. I do agree its weird that Venables has never seriously been pursued by anyone.

I have always assumed that Venables has been "seriously pursued" in the same way Snyder has been.  There is no question other programs have reached out, but I think he just has made it so clear he is not interested that it never goes far enough to even be a rumor.  It could even be that Venables' agent keeps coming forward to him with calls from schools that are interested and he just doesn't call them back.

Snyder was very close to going to UCLA. Venables and his agent gain absolutely nothing by dismissing jobs or keeping rumors quiet.

[michigancat]

to be fair, Leavitt hasn't been a serious candidate for a head coaching job since he got fired, either.

[Katpappy]

to be fair, Leavitt hasn't been a serious candidate for a head coaching job since he got fired, either.

Yea, but we know the reason why... Venables, not so much.

[KITNfury]

Charlie Strong didn't get a job for a long time when people were saying how qualified he was.  Then he did.  So what.  Maybe Venables has had opportunities.  Maybe not.  Maybe he'd make a good coach or not.  But to add any credence to whether he's qualified or not simply based upon him not being hired by now is rough ridin' stupid.  When Snyder is done,  you reach out to him and interview him.  If he's a weirdo loser that the AD doesn't believe can do the job,  then fine.  Until then,  I wouldn't assume anything because what we do know is that he's been mentored by possibly 3 Hall of fame coaches and has had great success as a coordinator and positions coach.

[ChiComCat]

I think we're enough better that available coaches would pick us over Minnesota but not enough better that a coach would leave Minnesota for us.

You're right.  But for more reason than you listed.  The only way (well not counting the Currie brucing it up) we would hire a Minnesota coach is if he were having good success.  And if a coach there had the ball rolling,  why would he risk leaving to another,  comparable job? Probably wouldn't unless you threw tons of money at him and even then maybe not.

I didn't list any reasons but yea, what you're saying.

[MakeItRain]

Charlie Strong didn't get a job for a long time when people were saying how qualified he was.  Then he did.  So what.  Maybe Venables has had opportunities.  Maybe not.  Maybe he'd make a good coach or not.  But to add any credence to whether he's qualified or not simply based upon him not being hired by now is rough ridin' stupid.  When Snyder is done,  you reach out to him and interview him.  If he's a weirdo loser that the AD doesn't believe can do the job,  then fine.  Until then,  I wouldn't assume anything because what we do know is that he's been mentored by possibly 3 Hall of fame coaches and has had great success as a coordinator and positions coach.

Fair point, not sure Chuck Strong is the best example though.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=3813793

[KITNfury]

Charlie Strong didn't get a job for a long time when people were saying how qualified he was.  Then he did.  So what.  Maybe Venables has had opportunities.  Maybe not.  Maybe he'd make a good coach or not.  But to add any credence to whether he's qualified or not simply based upon him not being hired by now is rough ridin' stupid.  When Snyder is done,  you reach out to him and interview him.  If he's a weirdo loser that the AD doesn't believe can do the job,  then fine.  Until then,  I wouldn't assume anything because what we do know is that he's been mentored by possibly 3 Hall of fame coaches and has had great success as a coordinator and positions coach.

Fair point, not sure Chuck Strong is the best example though.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=3813793

That might be true, but hardly a fact. But I don't want to get lost in the weeds with it.

[fun muffin]

I want Les Miles baaaaad!!!! 

I think he absolutely would come here.  And I think we could get 10 years out of him. 

He'd be very entertaining and would probably win a lot.  I'm all in on Les!!!

[MakeItRain]

He was very meh at OSU during the most pud time in the history of the Big 12.

[michigancat]

He was very meh at OSU during the most pud time in the history of the Big 12.

to be fair, they'd had one winning season in the 13 seasons before he arrived and he had 3 in 4 seasons. When he took over a good program in a good conference, he did pretty good.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I feel like Les Miles turned himself into a household name at LSU and would be able to recruit much better at this point than he was able to at OSU.

[420seriouscat69]

We don't have any grass for Les to eat tho. Big problem.

[Rage Against the McKee]

We could find him some.

[michigancat]

I feel like Les Miles turned himself into a household name at LSU and would be able to recruit much better at this point than he was able to at OSU.

Yep I'm guessing he learned a thing or two in 11 years since

[Katpappy]

Problem is he will cost somewhere in the range of 4 to 5 mil.  I doubt JC will fork over that much for a fired coach... but wait a minute, Oscar!!!

[MakeItRain]

Problem is he will cost somewhere in the range of 4 to 5 mil.  I doubt JC will fork over that much for a fired coach... but wait a minute, Oscar!!!

No he won't, not even close, he was fired, there isn't a program in America going to pay a fired 60something $4 million.

[BackPayne]

Dykes gone at Cal.

[MakeItRain]

In the strangest and most elongated coaching carousel in recent memory Sonny Dykes was fired today. Bet he wishes he went to Baylor, pretty dirty move by Cal.

[scottwildcat]

Fire up the Chip Kelly to Cal rumors.

[TheHamburglar]

Oh okay.

How much more experienced Ron Prince than Venables in 2004?

He had been a coordinator of an average offense for 3 years and only been coaching at a P5 school for 5.

Venables has been coordinator or co-coordinator for 18 years for 2 major programs competing for league and national titles.

I don't think they are comparable. I do agree its weird that Venables has never seriously been pursued by anyone.

I have always assumed that Venables has been "seriously pursued" in the same way Snyder has been.  There is no question other programs have reached out, but I think he just has made it so clear he is not interested that it never goes far enough to even be a rumor.  It could even be that Venables' agent keeps coming forward to him with calls from schools that are interested and he just doesn't call them back.

Snyder was very close to going to UCLA. Venables and his agent gain absolutely nothing by dismissing jobs or keeping rumors quiet.

It was well known in Oklahoma that Brent went after the Arkansas State job after either Freeze or Mahlzan left.

[MakeItRain]

Oh okay.

How much more experienced Ron Prince than Venables in 2004?

He had been a coordinator of an average offense for 3 years and only been coaching at a P5 school for 5.

Venables has been coordinator or co-coordinator for 18 years for 2 major programs competing for league and national titles.

I don't think they are comparable. I do agree its weird that Venables has never seriously been pursued by anyone.

I have always assumed that Venables has been "seriously pursued" in the same way Snyder has been.  There is no question other programs have reached out, but I think he just has made it so clear he is not interested that it never goes far enough to even be a rumor.  It could even be that Venables' agent keeps coming forward to him with calls from schools that are interested and he just doesn't call them back.

Snyder was very close to going to UCLA. Venables and his agent gain absolutely nothing by dismissing jobs or keeping rumors quiet.

It was well known in Oklahoma that Brent went after the Arkansas State job after either Freeze or Mahlzan left.

That's a pretty big red flag, no?

[Skipper44]

Must be some OurVaniers down there

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Les Miles is a weirdo. Do not want.

[ChiComCat]

Problem is he will cost somewhere in the range of 4 to 5 mil.  I doubt JC will fork over that much for a fired coach... but wait a minute, Oscar!!!

No he won't, not even close, he was fired, there isn't a program in America going to pay a fired 60something $4 million.

Agreed.  Les Miles has started trying to get group of 5 jobs.  He will take what is offered. 

[DOD Take 2]

Oh okay.

How much more experienced Ron Prince than Venables in 2004?

He had been a coordinator of an average offense for 3 years and only been coaching at a P5 school for 5.

Venables has been coordinator or co-coordinator for 18 years for 2 major programs competing for league and national titles.

I don't think they are comparable. I do agree its weird that Venables has never seriously been pursued by anyone.

I have always assumed that Venables has been "seriously pursued" in the same way Snyder has been.  There is no question other programs have reached out, but I think he just has made it so clear he is not interested that it never goes far enough to even be a rumor.  It could even be that Venables' agent keeps coming forward to him with calls from schools that are interested and he just doesn't call them back.

Snyder was very close to going to UCLA. Venables and his agent gain absolutely nothing by dismissing jobs or keeping rumors quiet.

It was well known in Oklahoma that Brent went after the Arkansas State job after either Freeze or Mahlzan left.

That's a pretty big red flag, no?

Why is this a red flag? I'm guessing it was after Freeze left is when he wanted it, because his first year as Clemson was the year Malzahn was at Ark St. Makes sense if he tried to get it, Stoops just brought in his brother to be a co-DC which clearly upset Venables. I don't think losing a HC gig to Malzahn would've be that big of an issue