Donald H. Bush

[420seriouscat69]

Apparently most of America is racist.

actually no.  Less than 47.2%

So then most of America loves a criminal? Makes sense. Sounds like everyone is evil.

[renocat]

Acter a hot discussion at a bar break here at a meeting in Portland, I have decided  Trump is a moderate.

[MakeItRain]

<-- moderate   

 

[420seriouscat69]

Me too, Emo! 

[Emo EMAW]

<-- moderate   

 

Try me MIR!

[MakeItRain]

<-- moderate   

 

Try me MIR!

I'd be happy to hear your moderate policy positions.

[sonofdaxjones]

What's best for America and Americans guy here: 

End Wars of Aggression-check

Defeat Islamic State and stabilize region-check

Bring home offshore capital for a one time relatively low fee- check

Reduce foreign based military installations and build a strong mobile military- check

Make friends/calm the waters with Russia-check

Secure borders and seek immediate immigration overhaul- check

Deport criminal illegals- check

Re-evaluate trade agreements, seek to tweak-check

Incentivize US based manufacturing- check

Overhaul healthcare interstate insurance offerings, no required health insurance, keep pre existing condition clause- check

National infrastructure and science/engineering/education initiative-check

[Dugout DickStone]

What's best for America and Americans guy here: 

End Wars of Aggression-check

Defeat Islamic State and stabilize region-check

Bring home offshore capital for a one time relatively low fee- check

Reduce foreign based military installations and build a strong mobile military- check

Make friends/calm the waters with Russia-check

Secure borders and seek immediate immigration overhaul- check

Deport criminal illegals- check

Re-evaluate trade agreements, seek to tweak-check

Incentivize US based manufacturing- check

Overhaul healthcare interstate insurance offerings, no required health insurance, keep pre existing condition clause- check

National infrastructure and science/engineering/education initiative-check

all good ideas.  A few almost impossible ones

[Emo EMAW]

<-- moderate   

 

Try me MIR!

I'd be happy to hear your moderate policy positions.

I'm for same sex marriage.  I'm for them adopting and raising children.  I am for some environmental regulation.  I'm not hawkish by any means.  I'm certainly against the Patriot Act, although I'm not sure that qualifies. 

[MakeItRain]

<-- moderate   

 

Try me MIR!

I'd be happy to hear your moderate policy positions.

I'm for same sex marriage.  I'm for them adopting and raising children.  I am for some environmental regulation.  I'm not hawkish by any means.  I'm certainly against the Patriot Act, although I'm not sure that qualifies.

So you have one liberal policy position, gay marriage? Not sure why you mentioned adoption though. I have one conservative policy position, I'm not a moderate.

[Institutional Control]

What's best for America and Americans guy here: 

End Wars of Aggression-check

Defeat Islamic State and stabilize region-check

Bring home offshore capital for a one time relatively low fee- check

Reduce foreign based military installations and build a strong mobile military- check

Make friends/calm the waters with Russia-check

Secure borders and seek immediate immigration overhaul- check

Deport criminal illegals- check

Re-evaluate trade agreements, seek to tweak-check

Incentivize US based manufacturing- check

Overhaul healthcare interstate insurance offerings, no required health insurance, keep pre existing condition clause- check

National infrastructure and science/engineering/education initiative-check

Here's a dumb question... Why do we want more manufacturing jobs?  As someone who worked in a couple of factories I can confirm they're shitty jobs.

[chum1]

http://www.people-press.org/quiz/political-typology/

[chum1]

Your best fit is...

Solid Liberal

[Emo EMAW]

What's best for America and Americans guy here: 

End Wars of Aggression-check

Defeat Islamic State and stabilize region-check

Bring home offshore capital for a one time relatively low fee- check

Reduce foreign based military installations and build a strong mobile military- check

Make friends/calm the waters with Russia-check

Secure borders and seek immediate immigration overhaul- check

Deport criminal illegals- check

Re-evaluate trade agreements, seek to tweak-check

Incentivize US based manufacturing- check

Overhaul healthcare interstate insurance offerings, no required health insurance, keep pre existing condition clause- check

National infrastructure and science/engineering/education initiative-check

Here's a dumb question... Why do we want more manufacturing jobs?  As someone who worked in a couple of factories I can confirm they're shitty jobs.

They're better than a lot of jobs, and they're also better than no jobs.  Germany has done a lot to bolster it's mfg jobs with huuuuuuge growth in high-tech mfg, which is where we should go because we can absolutely compete with Germany in this arena. 

[chum1]

http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/26/the-political-typology-beyond-red-vs-blue/

Are Young Outsiders and Hard-Pressed Skeptics moderates?

[Institutional Control]

http://www.people-press.org/quiz/political-typology/

I did not like that quiz.  Most of the answers were too extreme.

I'm already sure I'm liberal.

[Institutional Control]

What's best for America and Americans guy here: 

End Wars of Aggression-check

Defeat Islamic State and stabilize region-check

Bring home offshore capital for a one time relatively low fee- check

Reduce foreign based military installations and build a strong mobile military- check

Make friends/calm the waters with Russia-check

Secure borders and seek immediate immigration overhaul- check

Deport criminal illegals- check

Re-evaluate trade agreements, seek to tweak-check

Incentivize US based manufacturing- check

Overhaul healthcare interstate insurance offerings, no required health insurance, keep pre existing condition clause- check

National infrastructure and science/engineering/education initiative-check

Here's a dumb question... Why do we want more manufacturing jobs?  As someone who worked in a couple of factories I can confirm they're shitty jobs.

They're better than a lot of jobs, and they're also better than no jobs.  Germany has done a lot to bolster it's mfg jobs with huuuuuuge growth in high-tech mfg, which is where we should go because we can absolutely compete with Germany in this arena.

They are better than no jobs, I'll give you that.

http://futurism.com/expert-automation-may-present-roadblocks-to-trumps-job-promises/

[Emo EMAW]

I don't know what you're advocating or disagreeing with me about in that link. 

[sys]

I did not like that quiz.  Most of the answers were too extreme.

I'm already sure I'm liberal.

i took it and got solid liberal, retook it answering one question (maybe two, can't recall for sure) differently and got business conservative.

 

[Institutional Control]

I don't know what you're advocating or disagreeing with me about in that link.

I'm not really advocating or disagreeing with you with that link.  I just saw that story on FB and thought it was relevant.

I think manufacturing jobs were good back when they paid well.  With all the union busting legislation in the past 20 years, manufacturing jobs suck because they don't pay much more than the average service job. 

If I could make 80K putting together a 1000 widgets a day, then yeah... that might be a good job.  But those jobs pay about $30K a year now.  I worked with guys who lost fingers in the factory.  Most of them thought they were lucky because the $10K per knuckle paid for their new Dodge Ram.  In my 20 years of working in offices, never met anyone who lost a limb at work.

[catastrophe]

I did not like that quiz.  Most of the answers were too extreme.

I'm already sure I'm liberal.

i took it and got solid liberal, retook it answering one question (maybe two, can't recall for sure) differently and got business conservative.

 

I like the isidewith quiz. Gives a good spectrum of options and tells you the candidate you are most closely aligned with ideologically, plus gives a breakdown of where you fall in the political spectrum. It's a good 15 minute commitment though.

When I took it, I was literally right in the middle: centrist.

[sys]

isn't that the one that tells everyone they're marching lockstep with sanders, though?

[catastrophe]

Maybe everyone that you know. I got Gary Johnson by over 90%. Bernie was a distant second, though.

[sys]

Maybe everyone that you know. I got Gary Johnson by over 90%. Bernie was a distant second, though.

yeah, i think he's always second.

[catastrophe]