The Trump Presidency

[steve dave]

it's actually the case for sure

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Welp, Ken Paxton is surely Trump's next choice for AG.

Hearing Rudy vs Alina Habba death match for the nomination.

[DQ12]

it's actually the case for sure

i'm waiting for Educatorkat (who you sometimes (very unfairly!) call "tankiekat") to weigh in.

[steve dave]

it's actually the case for sure

i'm waiting for Educatorkat (who you sometimes (very unfairly!) call "tankiekat") to weigh in.

I only do that when he's being a turbo lib

[steve dave]

it's actually the case for sure

i'm waiting for Educatorkat (who you sometimes (very unfairly!) call "tankiekat") to weigh in.

I only do that when he's being a turbo lib

WHICH IS FUCKIN' ALWAYS

[steve dave]

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1859656526107115701?s=46


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[steve dave]

https://x.com/lolennui/status/1859663905888649335?s=46


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[sonofdaxjones]

Trump should just forge on with an AG pick based on his mandate because nothing short of a #blueanon piss boy like Merrick Shaky Garland is going to satisfy the blueanon rage complex


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Agreed. This morning I was thinking about if Trump is willing to deal with the scrutiny of Gaetz to get someone who will do his bidding then what do we have in store because it must be bad.

We couldn’t possibly get a worse AG than the one that apparently couldn’t prosecute a very well known pedophile. Even after investigating them for 18 months.

Let’s common ground this thing and call for making the attorney general’s office great again while we wipe away the ineffective piss boy stench of Merrick Shaky Garland.


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[_33]

No doubt, I think my general statement to people that complain about the "state of education" generally public or private is to say "compared to what?"

If people want to make the claim that schools are worse than 100 years ago, 50 years ago, 30 years ago...I'd like to know what they are pointing to and why they think that. The other point is that segregation in schools is obviously nothing new and now it is more by class than by race (or gender) but it is still a big improvement even though I would like to try and reduce it as a means to an end of a more just society and a more equitable educational system.

I am lucky that in MHK there are 2 middle schools and 1 high school and I would say I would be happy sending my kids to any of the elementary schools, and the one they go to is pretty ethnically and economically diverse and the teachers are largely outstanding.

I think much of the school district (and private/public) disparity in metrics can be boiled down to self-selection stuff and parenting.  You are much more of an expert in this stuff than I am (obviously), so feel free to point out if you disagree.

But I'm of the opinion that teachers are, broadly speaking, very competent, but they can only lead the horses to water.  When you look at things like test scores, graduation, college enrollment -- basically any metric to judge schools, what you're largely seeing is a function of the level of involvement and concern the parents the parents have in their kids' education. IDK what it boils down to, but I'm guessing something like instilling "discipline" (like, do your homework, go to bed at a reasonable time, study for your tests, bring home a good report card etc.) is probably the key thing.  And there's all sorts of reasons a particular school district could have varying degrees of discipline (economic, cultural, familial etc.), but in my (again, very non-expert) opinion, that's largely what it comes down to.  And I don't know of a policy position more concrete than "bring more people out of poverty" that really does anything to change that.  So in my dumb right leaning brain, things like "we need more school funding!" misses the mark because, again, I think the teachers/resources aren't the cause of the disparate indicators. 

In other words, when Steve Dave says this

The great part about living in great places is that the public schools are great.

Is that actually the case?  Or do "great places" just have parents that typically raise good high school students that reflect well for their schools?

Am I completely off-base here?

This is 100% correct. And I was a high school teacher for 11 years so I know some stuff about this stuff.

[Stupid Fitz]

Trump should just forge on with an AG pick based on his mandate because nothing short of a #blueanon piss boy like Merrick Shaky Garland is going to satisfy the blueanon rage complex


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Agreed. This morning I was thinking about if Trump is willing to deal with the scrutiny of Gaetz to get someone who will do his bidding then what do we have in store because it must be bad.

We couldn’t possibly get a worse AG than the one that apparently couldn’t prosecute a very well known pedophile. Even after investigating them for 18 months.

Let’s common ground this thing and call for making the attorney general’s office great again while we wipe away the ineffective piss boy stench of Merrick Shaky Garland.


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Do I even want to know? Also, sorry to everyone else.

[Kat Kid]

If the question is, does poverty and trauma make it more difficult for children to be good students?
The answer is yes. The solution for that is greater economic equality throughout the society.

However, in these United States of America we don't really like economic equality much and we definitely do not like programs for poor people. We do have a few very popular universal programs to address poverty that have enormous success rates but still have to argue about if they are worth keeping, let alone if we should try the same model for other things.

One thing that is slightly more palatable than money for poor people is money for public schools. Public Schools provide some services for poor people in addition to educating them. In so far as schools today offer vastly more services than in the past, they are attempting to address the underlying societal inequality. Whether schools are best situated to address that is kind of irrelevant if you believe, as I do, that most or all of these programs would not exist if they weren't in public schools.

[bucket]

If the question is, does poverty and trauma make it more difficult for children to be good students?
The answer is yes. The solution for that is greater economic equality throughout the society.

However, in these United States of America we don't really like economic equality much and we definitely do not like programs for poor people. We do have a few very popular universal programs to address poverty that have enormous success rates but still have to argue about if they are worth keeping, let alone if we should try the same model for other things.

One thing that is slightly more palatable than money for poor people is money for public schools. Public Schools provide some services for poor people in addition to educating them. In so far as schools today offer vastly more services than in the past, they are attempting to address the underlying societal inequality. Whether schools are best situated to address that is kind of irrelevant if you believe, as I do, that most or all of these programs would not exist if they weren't in public schools.

Good article on the topic that I was recently forced to reread due to some of the conversations that I was a part of.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/23/upshot/sat-inequality.html

[yoga-like_abana]

The solution for that is greater economic equality throughout the society.

Comrade Kid

[wetwillie]

This is a safe space for Trump shenanigans. Keep your rough ridin' public ed bullshit out of it.

[sonofdaxjones]

Trump should just forge on with an AG pick based on his mandate because nothing short of a #blueanon piss boy like Merrick Shaky Garland is going to satisfy the blueanon rage complex


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Agreed. This morning I was thinking about if Trump is willing to deal with the scrutiny of Gaetz to get someone who will do his bidding then what do we have in store because it must be bad.

We couldn’t possibly get a worse AG than the one that apparently couldn’t prosecute a very well known pedophile. Even after investigating them for 18 months.

Let’s common ground this thing and call for making the attorney general’s office great again while we wipe away the ineffective piss boy stench of Merrick Shaky Garland.


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Do I even want to know? Also, sorry to everyone else.

You are amazingly dense


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[nicname]

Tell me about this new smoke show AG.

[sonofdaxjones]

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[bucket]

Sounds pretty spot on, Dax.

[wetwillie]

Looks like Gaetz was a sacrificial lamb

[Dugout DickStone]

Looks like Gaetz was a sacrificial lamb

At the expense of maga who had to dive in hard for a groomer

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I think Bondi was always the first choice, Gaetz was just a fun troll that needed an excuse to resign from the house and keep the report sealed.

[sonofdaxjones]

Pleased that a known (per #blueanon) pedophile that Merrick Shaky Garland failed to prosecute won’t be our next AG.


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[Dugout DickStone]

Pleased that a known (per #blueanon) pedophile that Merrick Shaky Garland failed to prosecute won’t be our next AG.


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Damn he big mad a groomer isn’t gonna be AG.

Don’t worry there or other pedophiles in the running

[sonofdaxjones]

Pleased that a known (per #blueanon) pedophile that Merrick Shaky Garland failed to prosecute won’t be our next AG.


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Damn he big mad a groomer isn’t gonna be AG.

Don’t worry there or other pedophiles in the running

#slowduggin - completely enraged that utterly incompetent Merrick Shakes Garland investigated MG for a year and half, and couldn’t find anything to charge him with. 

Meanwhile, apparently everyone knew he was a pedo.

Join us on common ground in exiting out incompetent Merrick Shakes Garland as our AG from office.


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[Pete]

I think Bondi was always the first choice, Gaetz was just a fun troll that needed an excuse to resign from the house and keep the report sealed.

I think you nailed it