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Quote from: catastrophe on February 10, 2016, 05:42:09 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 04:30:32 PMQuick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."He's mainly going to raise the crap out of the top marginal tax rates, so you probably won't feel much of a difference. But 40% paid in taxes? That better be including more than income tax.K-S-U always puts his sales tax, property tax, FICO, & social security into his "income tax" figures.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 04:30:32 PMQuick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."He's mainly going to raise the crap out of the top marginal tax rates, so you probably won't feel much of a difference. But 40% paid in taxes? That better be including more than income tax.
Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 04:30:32 PMQuick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).
Quote from: CNS on February 10, 2016, 01:52:11 PMTo be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents. I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party. If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad). Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.I'm pretty much okay with this, assuming the executive order thing stops.
To be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents. I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party. If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad). Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.
Quote from: chuckjames on February 10, 2016, 04:55:05 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 04:30:32 PMQuick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).Right - so if Bern gets his way, I'll pay higher taxes for the same exact "free" healthcare everybody who isn't paying as much gets, and it'll be like going to the VA. That doesn't sound fair, from my perspective.
Quote from: Emo EMAW on February 10, 2016, 02:15:48 PMQuote from: CNS on February 10, 2016, 01:52:11 PMTo be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents. I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party. If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad). Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.I'm pretty much okay with this, assuming the executive order thing stops.Obama has enacted fewer executive orders than any president per year, on average, since the great Grover Cleveland.http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/every-presidents-executive-actions-in-one-chart/
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 08:42:01 PMQuote from: chuckjames on February 10, 2016, 04:55:05 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 04:30:32 PMQuick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).Right - so if Bern gets his way, I'll pay higher taxes for the same exact "free" healthcare everybody who isn't paying as much gets, and it'll be like going to the VA. That doesn't sound fair, from my perspective.that's the price you pay for living in a civilized society. taxes go to all sorts of things you (and i!) don't use, not sure why you so butthurt about it.
i'm pretty butthurt about all of my taxes that get spent on other people's kids. i'll admit.
Can we go back to the part where @Ptolemy thought a Republican controlled Congress failed to stop Obamacare?
Lemy is a sock, and a bad one at that. Don't engage. It is just talking points with non rational thought mixed in with links from lol land.
I mean, companies weren't legally required to offer any health insurance for the last thirty years and most still did. Why would that change just because the mechanism that funds it shifts?
Quote from: CNS on February 11, 2016, 11:07:04 AMI mean, companies weren't legally required to offer any health insurance for the last thirty years and most still did. Why would that change just because the mechanism that funds it shifts? because employees would probably prefer to have increased salaries rather than redundant health care.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 08:42:01 PMQuote from: chuckjames on February 10, 2016, 04:55:05 PMQuote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2016, 04:30:32 PMQuick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).Right - so if Bern gets his way, I'll pay higher taxes for the same exact "free" healthcare everybody who isn't paying as much gets, and it'll be like going to the VA. That doesn't sound fair, from my perspective.And I don't think it's fair that some people are born rich, while others are born poor...alas life ain't fair.