1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...

[Ptolemy]

To be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents.  I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party.  If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad).  Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.

Actually, given that Democrats have lost more than 1000 seats in government since Obama has started his wreck-capitalism-campaign...

Since Obama took office Democrats have lost:
** 14 Senate seats
** 69 House seats
** 12 governorships
** 910 state legislature seats
That’s over 1,000 seats lost.

You are witnessing a wave.

[Emo EMAW]

To be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents.  I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party.  If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad).  Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.

I'm pretty much okay with this, assuming the executive order thing stops.

[catastrophe]

Lincoln killed it with executive orders, btw.

[Ptolemy]

To be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents.  I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party.  If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad).  Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.

I'm pretty much okay with this, assuming the executive order thing stops.

What exactly has the Republican Congress stopped Obama on? They fully funded: Obama's amnesty program, Obamacare again and again and again, vote in favor of his judicial appointments, have abided by Harry Reid and Obama's desire to end the filibuster rule for judicial appointments, allowed his fast and furious and IRS scandals to go without an independent counsel, the ONE guy in the senate, Cruz, that tried to de-fund the ACA got demonized by the establishment...!!!  The reason there is an insurgent campaign that is unseating the establishment RINO's is because they refuse to try to stop Obama. Hell, the only way the EPA got stopped/delayed on raising our utility rates is because 29 states sued to stop him. 

[star seed 7]

To be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents.  I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party.  If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad).  Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.

Actually, given that Democrats have lost more than 1000 seats in government since Obama has started his wreck-capitalism-campaign...

Since Obama took office Democrats have lost:
** 14 Senate seats
** 69 House seats
** 12 governorships
** 910 state legislature seats
That’s over 1,000 seats lost.

You are witnessing a wave.

 

[chuckjames]

Lincoln killed it with executive orders, btw.

Lincoln also killed at not caring about the 8th amendment.

[Emo EMAW]

To be fair, I am not a fan of the executive order spree that seems to be the preferred way of doing biz for the last few presidents.  I do blame congress, the level of partisan separation, and the thought that the best way to govern is to not even listen to or engage the other party.  If congress wasn't a crap storm the office of the president wouldn't have had to wrangle a way to accomplish something(good or bad).  Congress is now more of a place to go hang out, troll ppl on twitter, and just make sure that if the other party has a president in power that they don't ever get anything they want.

I'm pretty much okay with this, assuming the executive order thing stops.

What exactly has the Republican Congress stopped Obama on? They fully funded: Obama's amnesty program, Obamacare again and again and again, vote in favor of his judicial appointments, have abided by Harry Reid and Obama's desire to end the filibuster rule for judicial appointments, allowed his fast and furious and IRS scandals to go without an independent counsel, the ONE guy in the senate, Cruz, that tried to de-fund the ACA got demonized by the establishment...!!!  The reason there is an insurgent campaign that is unseating the establishment RINO's is because they refuse to try to stop Obama. Hell, the only way the EPA got stopped/delayed on raising our utility rates is because 29 states sued to stop him.

12/24/2009:  Senate, 58 D / 40 R
03/21/2010:  House, 253 D / 177 R

[GregKSU1027]

All of these damnned Millenials voting for bernie..  By God get off our lawns.

[ednksu]

Lincoln killed it with executive orders, btw.

Lincoln also killed at not caring about the 8th amendment.

[kso_FAN]

This is cool.

https://twitter.com/jgrovum/status/697527444732059649

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Why is the wallet depicted as a blue circle?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

[Rage Against the McKee]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

I doubt it changes much. Your federal tax burden would probably increase by about 10-15%, so instead of 22% of your overall income it would be 25-26%. That's assuming Bernie could ever get congress to approve his tax increases in the first place.

[mocat]

if you are relatively wealthy and you support Bernie, do the "lazy and looking for free crap" memes apply to you? or is it confirmed only people without a job that support this guy? trying to get a sense of this deal

[chuckjames]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).

[chuckjames]

And I'm not even feeling the bern that much. Just glad he bringing the democrats as far left as the GOP is right nowadays.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).

The problem with that argument for me is that my employer pays for my healthcare, and I really doubt I'd get a raise that covers the amount they've been paying.

[chuckjames]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

yea i dont think your tax liability will drastically increase..and the only increase you would see is to pay for single payer healthcare...but then you dont have to worry about health insurance so it will be a net gain or close to it (i know you think youll get shitty cover through single payer, not arguing that).

The problem with that argument for me is that my employer pays for my healthcare, and I really doubt I'd get a raise that covers the amount they've been paying.

Nope Not a chance.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

if you are relatively wealthy and you support Bernie, do the "lazy and looking for free crap" memes apply to you? or is it confirmed only people without a job that support this guy? trying to get a sense of this deal

I think it means you are willing to work for less money so lazy people millennials can have free crap.

[catastrophe]

I have a job and I'd take Bernie over most of the leading candidates right now (though I hope a really solid 3rd party shows up too).

[catastrophe]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

He's mainly going to raise the crap out of the top marginal tax rates, so you probably won't feel much of a difference. But 40% paid in taxes? That better be including more than income tax.

[Institutional Control]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

He's mainly going to raise the crap out of the top marginal tax rates, so you probably won't feel much of a difference. But 40% paid in taxes? That better be including more than income tax.

K-S-U always puts his sales tax, property tax, FICO, & social security into his "income tax" figures. 

[star seed 7]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

He's mainly going to raise the crap out of the top marginal tax rates, so you probably won't feel much of a difference. But 40% paid in taxes? That better be including more than income tax.

K-S-U always puts his sales tax, property tax, FICO, & social security into his "income tax" figures.

Also likes to use "almost over 50%" a lot too

[sys]

Even when he wins he loses.  Hillary took the majority of delegates.

not accurate.

[chuckjames]

Quick question for those who feel the bern: I currently pay about 40% of my income in the form of one tax or another, including 22% to the federal government (that's total tax / AGI). How much more of my income will Bernie take? I need something more specific than "according to my ability."

He's mainly going to raise the crap out of the top marginal tax rates, so you probably won't feel much of a difference. But 40% paid in taxes? That better be including more than income tax.

K-S-U always puts his sales tax, property tax, FICO, & social security into his "income tax" figures.

Also likes to use "almost over 50%" a lot too

What about the Gas Tax??? Thats gotta put him over the 50% mark.