Turn another Paige to read about Barry-ily losing; WVU ADV

[kso_FAN]

wvu hasn't beaten anyone yet, kstate is actually their best win.  they've compiled large movs against bad teams.

True. It's a good way to inflate kp ratings. Missouri used to do the same under Anderson.

I still think they are 4th in the league.

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WVU played zone in the 2nd and OT. Our zone o is putrid. Hence the shooting drop off.

Weber was all over the refs, as was huggy. Both were threatened with t's on several occasions. I'm guessing Weber didn't make tv. The Big 12 needs to address who it hires for officials if they give a crap about competition. It's been a major problem for several years, and it's getting worse. The tall skinny black bald guy is utterly incompetent. Like having a mentally handicapped person working in mission control.

True, he didn't.  They tend to show him very unfavorably when he does.

Just watching the game from home looks like a win if more consistent with FTs and 3pt shots, just stating the obvious.  Refs are a constant and hope impartial as to why I never really bitch too much about them.

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-01-02/late-no-call-seals-k-states-fate-double-ot-loss-no-19-west-virginia

[slackcat]

Meh, calls go both ways.  If any 2nd half 3s had gone in would have been a W in regulation.

[manpow5]

I think we can all agree that even though there was a lot of bad, there was a lot of good. At the start of the season if you told me wedbe going in to conference play with only 2 losses and those 2 losses were to 2 top 25 teams that we really should have won, I would have laughef at you. I know your level of hate for Weber is off the charts, but the dude has some how scrapped together a semi decent team with young talent that could kill it in the next couple years. It may be an ugly year going forward, but it'll be good experience for the young guys who will lead us to success the next couple years.

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Meh, calls go both ways.  If any 2nd half 3s had gone in would have been a W in regulation.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that refs were a factor in the game.  I was lol'n at the theme of that game story and the idea that Weber "glared menacingly."  B-team beat writer crossover season.

[EMAWican]

This year's team is more entertaining purely from a basketball standpoint than last year's, but goodness gracious that has yet to translate to wins against above average teams.

[slackcat]

Meh, calls go both ways.  If any 2nd half 3s had gone in would have been a W in regulation.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that refs were a factor in the game.  I was lol'n at the theme of that game story and the idea that Weber "glared menacingly."  B-team beat writer crossover season.

I refuse to fill out survey to read article, just me.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

This year's team is more entertaining purely from a basketball standpoint than last year's, but goodness gracious that has yet to translate to wins against above average teams.

Maybe from a basketball standpoint, but on pure entertainment, not even close. Marcus doing what ever he wants at end of games and sinking Oklahoma twice with buzzer beaters was pretty epic. Also. all of the drama between him and oscar was just 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

WVU played zone in the 2nd and OT. Our zone o is putrid. Hence the shooting drop off.

We are relying on our freshman guards to hit 3s and we will for the entire Big 12 season.

In the first half Brown/Stokes went 3-6 from 3. The rest of the game they went 0-7. Part of that is the zone, but part of that is simply not making open shots. Also, our 2PT% got better as the game went along and in the 2nd half we actually shot a lower % of 3s to 2s than the first half. Perhaps in the OTs we got a little crazy as 6 of our 11 shots were 3s.

I do like that we did an excellent job of attacking WVU and got to the FT line.

We just didn't finish the game. I still think a big part of that is our experienced perimeter players simply didn't step up and make plays.

They switched to zone (122 trap thing) at about the 7 minute mark of the 2nd half. From that point forward we struggled to Pentwater the top of the arc. That's where the wheels came off on offense.

[kso_FAN]

Yeah, I remember Westicles had turnovers on the first 2 possessions after they switched.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

We called a timeout soontherafter, and the guys executed the play drawn up by throwing a two hop lob to the cheerleader on the baseline

[sys]

I think we can all agree that even though there was a lot of bad, there was a lot of good. At the start of the season if you told me wedbe going in to conference play with only 2 losses and those 2 losses were to 2 top 25 teams that we really should have won, I would have laughef at you. I know your level of hate for Weber is off the charts, but the dude has some how scrapped together a semi decent team with young talent that could kill it in the next couple years. It may be an ugly year going forward, but it'll be good experience for the young guys who will lead us to success the next couple years.

i guess that depends on your expectations.  kstate was the only home big 12 team that lost yesterday.  tcu is the only team that i expect to end up with a losing record at home in conference.

[MakeItRain]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

The officiating was extraordinarily incompetent, which is quite an achievement. The alcoholic that is the head official doesn't have a clue, and his partners were ridiculously stupid and worthless

Tom O'Neill. He had security tell me to calm down during a game in the Wooly era. I called him a worthless drunk and I told him he was sweating gin.

[MakeItRain]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

Knock it off man. The officiating was atrocious. They struggled with the speed and physicality of the game and were waaaaayyyyyy to reliant on video replay. They weren't why we lost but they hurt the rhythm of the game and made it brutal to watch. I loved them going to replay after a full timeout to check two tenths of a second.

[ChiComCat]

Agree with MIR - That was some of the most incompetent officiating that I have seen.  Calls were consistently way late or incorrect with the replay process butchered into wasting at least 5 minutes.

[cfbandyman]

on the pro side of things, brian smoller was a treat on the radio call. he's like that really annoying announcer that other teams have that is CERTAIN every call against his team is the most egregious call ever and acts way over the top emotionally about key plays. i love him.

Ugh, listened to him when he called the Georgia game. I had to take my headphones out a few times he was screaming so loud. Stanbot was audibly annoyed tho, which was fun to listen to.

[catzacker]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

Knock it off man. The officiating was atrocious. They struggled with the speed and physicality of the game and were waaaaayyyyyy to reliant on video replay. They weren't why we lost but they hurt the rhythm of the game and made it brutal to watch. I loved them going to replay after a full timeout to check two tenths of a second.

They didn't do anything that effected one team more than the other. They struggled on that replay but ultimately got it right from their original call. But I enjoyed oscar bitching about the refs instead of taking the entire blame for watching his team crap itself at the site of a 1-3-1 zone.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

The officiating was extraordinarily incompetent, which is quite an achievement. The alcoholic that is the head official doesn't have a clue, and his partners were ridiculously stupid and worthless

Tom O'Neill. He had security tell me to calm down during a game in the Wooly era. I called him a worthless drunk and I told him he was sweating gin.

He has that bright red cirrhosis nose that's about to fall off. He puts his hair on with shoe polish

[MakeItRain]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

Knock it off man. The officiating was atrocious. They struggled with the speed and physicality of the game and were waaaaayyyyyy to reliant on video replay. They weren't why we lost but they hurt the rhythm of the game and made it brutal to watch. I loved them going to replay after a full timeout to check two tenths of a second.

They didn't do anything that effected one team more than the other. They struggled on that replay but ultimately got it right from their original call. But I enjoyed oscar bitching about the refs instead of taking the entire blame for watching his team crap itself at the site of a 1-3-1 zone.

They didn't effect the outcome but they were poop.

For the life of me I don't get why anyone ever plays man against us, none of oscar's teams here have been even passable against a zone and this team has fewer shooters than we have had since Huggins pre Cartier Wooly.

[michigancat]

We had fewer shooters last year when foster was busy ruining everything

[michigancat]

And I can't figure out why brown has played so little before Saturday.

[MakeItRain]

We had fewer shooters last year when foster was busy ruining everything

Sorry man but not even close, these guys are dreadful ahooters
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=36655.msg1499131#msg1499131
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33829.msg1290889#msg1290889

[TwobizE2P]

I think we can all agree that even though there was a lot of bad, there was a lot of good. At the start of the season if you told me wedbe going in to conference play with only 2 losses and those 2 losses were to 2 top 25 teams that we really should have won, I would have laughef at you. I know your level of hate for Weber is off the charts, but the dude has some how scrapped together a semi decent team with young talent that could kill it in the next couple years. It may be an ugly year going forward, but it'll be good experience for the young guys who will lead us to success the next couple years.

I completely agree with this. Major upside surprise but also partly due to oscar cleverly setting expectations remarkably low by eviserating last year's team. Lost 80% of our scoring from LY.

Weber's big challenge is keeping a certain player eligible this semester.