Turn another Paige to read about Barry-ily losing; WVU ADV

[catzacker]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

[Canary]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

We disagree on both counts.  The officials were inconsistent.  Not the reason we lost to a ranked team.  We didn't do enough to win, but not because we suck. 

[catzacker]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

We disagree on both counts.  The officials were inconsistent.  Not the reason we lost to a ranked team.  We didn't do enough to win, but not because we suck.

Then enjoy your shitty excuse-filled ksu basketball this season.

[Canary]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

We disagree on both counts.  The officials were inconsistent.  Not the reason we lost to a ranked team.  We didn't do enough to win, but not because we suck.

Then enjoy your shitty excuse-filled ksu basketball this season.

Dang, someone needs a hug.

[catzacker]

The officiating was fine. Equal "bad" calls on each side. We lost because we suck.

We disagree on both counts.  The officials were inconsistent.  Not the reason we lost to a ranked team.  We didn't do enough to win, but not because we suck.

Then enjoy your shitty excuse-filled ksu basketball this season.

Dang, someone needs a hug.

I would rather have a better basketball team.

[Skipper44]

We got one but have since pissed it all away

[kso_FAN]

Update Box with OTs separated:



Shooting drop off as the game progressed was really bad.

[chum1]

Glad I missed this one! Sounds super frustrating!

[Kat Kid]

Hopper inspires zero confidence with the ball.

[catastrophe]

FT shooting under 50% pretty much made the difference. We have to be way better than that with the new rules.

[kso_FAN]

FT shooting under 50% pretty much made the difference. We have to be way better than that with the new rules.

That's fair, but i evened out and we were very good in the 2nd half and overtime. We ended up at 65%, our season average is 68%.

But we didn't make a 3 after the first half and the turnover rate was not in our favor in the 2nd half and OT. Those two things cost us the game more than FTs. JMHO.

[pvegs]

on the pro side of things, brian smoller was a treat on the radio call. he's like that really annoying announcer that other teams have that is CERTAIN every call against his team is the most egregious call ever and acts way over the top emotionally about key plays. i love him.

[kso_FAN]

on the pro side of things, brian smoller was a treat on the radio call. he's like that really annoying announcer that other teams have that is CERTAIN every call against his team is the most egregious call ever and acts way over the top emotionally about key plays. i love him.

Future VOTW.

[Canary]

on the pro side of things, brian smoller was a treat on the radio call. he's like that really annoying announcer that other teams have that is CERTAIN every call against his team is the most egregious call ever and acts way over the top emotionally about key plays. i love him.

Sounds like Bob Davis.  Not a fan of that kind of radio.

[catastrophe]

FT shooting under 50% pretty much made the difference. We have to be way better than that with the new rules.

That's fair, but i evened out and we were very good in the 2nd half and overtime. We ended up at 65%, our season average is 68%.

But we didn't make a 3 after the first half and the turnover rate was not in our favor in the 2nd half and OT. Those two things cost us the game more than FTs. JMHO.

I actually misread the graphic.  FT % could have made the difference in the first half, but it's good that our guys were able to be clutch in the 2nd / OT.  The drop off in 3-PTs is terrible after finally coming out and at least having an average day compared to most teams.

[Mixed-Nutz]

Can anyone explain to me how the refs decided it was K State ball with 4.1 seconds left on that DJamer "tip" ball. Then they reversed the call, but changed the clock to 4.6?

This is a problem CBB has. Reviews need to be on a time limit.  They looked at replay and determined DJamer did not touch ball.  They should have looked right then and there what the clock should be.  They didn't because they were clueless. So during a TO, they went back a 2nd time and looked at replay...and then saw an angle where DJamer touched ball. 

It was pretty easy to see clock should have been 4.6 seconds no matter who had the ball. What's BS is that took 2 long reviews to decide what to do.  It should have taken 90 seconds to decide that the original replay didn't show DJamer touched ball and 4.6 left when ball hit out of bounds

They completely screw up that entire sequence. On the inbound WVU took too much time to get a shot up and should have been a shot clock violation.

[slackcat]

Just to add to what has already been said, props to Huggs for working the refs like a boss.  He was in their ears on every indecisive call while oscar stood on the sideline with his rough ridin' pie hole open.  He will not fight for his guys which pisses me off every time. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

WVU played zone in the 2nd and OT. Our zone o is putrid. Hence the shooting drop off.

Weber was all over the refs, as was huggy. Both were threatened with t's on several occasions. I'm guessing Weber didn't make tv. The Big 12 needs to address who it hires for officials if they give a crap about competition. It's been a major problem for several years, and it's getting worse. The tall skinny black bald guy is utterly incompetent. Like having a mentally handicapped person working in mission control.

[kso_FAN]

WVU played zone in the 2nd and OT. Our zone o is putrid. Hence the shooting drop off.

We are relying on our freshman guards to hit 3s and we will for the entire Big 12 season.

In the first half Brown/Stokes went 3-6 from 3. The rest of the game they went 0-7. Part of that is the zone, but part of that is simply not making open shots. Also, our 2PT% got better as the game went along and in the 2nd half we actually shot a lower % of 3s to 2s than the first half. Perhaps in the OTs we got a little crazy as 6 of our 11 shots were 3s.

I do like that we did an excellent job of attacking WVU and got to the FT line.

We just didn't finish the game. I still think a big part of that is our experienced perimeter players simply didn't step up and make plays.

[ksupamplemousse]

Pretty confident of two things after attending the game yesterday 1) That's as well (or damn close to it) as this team is capable of playing 2) Huggy does not have a top 20 squad on his hands. They play hard though.

[420seriouscat69]

I don't know about #2. They've looked really good at times this year.

[slackcat]

WVU played zone in the 2nd and OT. Our zone o is putrid. Hence the shooting drop off.

Weber was all over the refs, as was huggy. Both were threatened with t's on several occasions. I'm guessing Weber didn't make tv. The Big 12 needs to address who it hires for officials if they give a crap about competition. It's been a major problem for several years, and it's getting worse. The tall skinny black bald guy is utterly incompetent. Like having a mentally handicapped person working in mission control.

True, he didn't.  They tend to show him very unfavorably when he does.

Just watching the game from home looks like a win if more consistent with FTs and 3pt shots, just stating the obvious.  Refs are a constant and hope impartial as to why I never really bitch too much about them.

[kso_FAN]

Handling their pressure was fairly impressive. Last year in our 2 games against WVU we turned it over on 28% of our possessions. Handling the basketball as a team is probably the biggest improvement from this year's version of Bruceketball.

Not if only we could shoot it a little bit.

WVU will finish 3rd/4th in this league. I think KU and OU are clearly the top with ISU next and then WVU.

[sys]

wvu hasn't beaten anyone yet, kstate is actually their best win.  they've compiled large movs against bad teams.

[Trim]

They looked like huggins' post-Bill KSU team.