Turn another Paige to read about Barry-ily losing; WVU ADV

[kso_FAN]

The freshmen did all they could to carry this thing, but mistakes (TOs) from returners did us in. We can't have Edwards and Westicles combine for 10 TOs in key situations really hurt us. Plus we just couldn't defend Paige.

Also,
0-11 from 3 in the 2nd half and OTs.
41% on FTs in the 1st.

These are the losses I remember when we are on the bubble or in the NIT (or worse).

[Canary]

Wes and Edwards did not lead. Hated to lose this game.

[wetwillie]

Didn't watch, how effectively did oscar use his time outs?

[Canary]

Also for the first time I thought wade looked lost for much of the game. Very tentative and unsure looking.

[kso_FAN]

Wes and Edwards did not lead. Hated to lose this game.

Yes, ultimately this was key for this loss. Wes' back to back TOs when Huggs switched to zone when the Cats led by 6 or 8 really stand out to me.

[Canary]

On one play in particular Wes had the ball with five seconds on the shot clock. He held it until 2 and then passed where wvu easily blocked the shot. I'm not bagging on him, but I expected better.

[catastrophe]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

[Canary]

It does. Another gE-we came down and mentioned that to me.

[kso_FAN]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

[Skipper44]

Edwards not being able to be on the floor at the end of regulation and most of OT is not encouraging for the rest of the season.  Barry making plays is

[Canary]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

One was extremely bad and one was very slow on his calls. It was inconsistent from start to finish.

[Skipper44]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

a little worse than a typical WVU type game, they had trouble with who was last to touch a ball out of bounds and the reviews took forever.  as a I said in chat it was a flash back to the JYC glory days when we would leave teams going coulda woulda shoulda after winning an ugly game on the road

[SdK]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

Yes. It was ridiculous

[catastrophe]

The goaltending call was textbook, and the crowd let the refs know. Otherwise, just frustrating because the refs literally could have called a foul on every shot and did so seemingly without any rhyme or reason.

On average the calls went both ways, though. Just really easy to see we should have had 2 more points than we did.

[Trim]

https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/683377695825121281

[Powercat Posse]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

They were bad in general on easy to see things.  They called WV for a goaltend call early that wasn't close to a goaltend. Then they missed one that was obvious late 1st half. 

1 guy called a charge on us when the WV player was 2 feet inside the arc under goal. Luckily another ref overruled him and called block.  All 3 refs really struggled with the speed/quickness that a Big 12 game possesses.  At times it looked like good HS refs trying to officiate a college game

WV plays more aggressively so I think if you watched the game neutral, you would think they got more of the calls.

[EMAWican]

Can anyone explain to me how the refs decided it was K State ball with 4.1 seconds left on that DJamer "tip" ball. Then they reversed the call, but changed the clock to 4.6?

[Canary]

Can anyone explain to me how the refs decided it was K State ball with 4.1 seconds left on that DJamer "tip" ball. Then they reversed the call, but changed the clock to 4.6?

I can't explain it but it took ten minutes for them to figure it out.

[Powercat Posse]

1) Poor early FT mentioned. Also poor Def Rebounding early (they had 8 ORs to our 4 DRs at one pt). Much better job DR% in 2nd half.

2) we did a great job for most of game limiting our TOs. 

3) I didn't like our effort on Defense.  WV will get their share of ORs, but allowing almost 61% on 2pt (29-48) isn't good. And it's not like they got 10 easy lay ups because of their press

4) Edwards got benched and can't say I blame that decision. Wes had 7 TOs but he at least made some plays in the 2nd half.

[Powercat Posse]

Can anyone explain to me how the refs decided it was K State ball with 4.1 seconds left on that DJamer "tip" ball. Then they reversed the call, but changed the clock to 4.6?

This is a problem CBB has. Reviews need to be on a time limit.  They looked at replay and determined DJamer did not touch ball.  They should have looked right then and there what the clock should be.  They didn't because they were clueless. So during a TO, they went back a 2nd time and looked at replay...and then saw an angle where DJamer touched ball. 

It was pretty easy to see clock should have been 4.6 seconds no matter who had the ball. What's BS is that took 2 long reviews to decide what to do.  It should have taken 90 seconds to decide that the original replay didn't show DJamer touched ball and 4.6 left when ball hit out of bounds

[EMAWican]

Can anyone explain to me how the refs decided it was K State ball with 4.1 seconds left on that DJamer "tip" ball. Then they reversed the call, but changed the clock to 4.6?

This is a problem CBB has. Reviews need to be on a time limit.  They looked at replay and determined DJamer did not touch ball.  They should have looked right then and there what the clock should be.  They didn't because they were clueless. So during a TO, they went back a 2nd time and looked at replay...and then saw an angle where DJamer touched ball. 

It was pretty easy to see clock should have been 4.6 seconds no matter who had the ball. What's BS is that took 2 long reviews to decide what to do.  It should have taken 90 seconds to decide that the original replay didn't show DJamer touched ball and 4.6 left when ball hit out of bounds

That's fine and dandy, but also remember that they changed the clock from 4.0 to 4.1 after the initial review, and then changed it again to 4.6. That whole sequence was so bizarre to watch.

[catzacker]

We are so close. So, so close to turning the corner. But we are young, ya know? Will take some time and definitely some patience.

[kso_FAN]

We are so close. So, so close to turning the corner. But we are young, ya know? Will take some time and definitely some patience.

Heh.

[catzacker]

At least the freshmen did well. Future is bright. They should be really good in 3 years.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

That missed goal tending call still burns.

I listened because I don't get ESPNU. Were the officials as bad as twitter indicated?

The officiating was extraordinarily incompetent, which is quite an achievement. The alcoholic that is the head official doesn't have a clue, and his partners were ridiculously stupid and worthless