Author Topic: Frank Martin (Read 53348 times)

CNS · « **Reply #400 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:13:57 AM »

Quote from: ksupamplemousse on February 19, 2016, 11:11:14 AM

Wacky, Nigel Johnson was a very objectively bad point guard. He never even sniffed a 2-1 a/to ratio. The closest he got was 1.5/1, and that is just terrible. He was bad at basketball. He buoyed his 3p% his sophomore year by having three out of body experience type games, but other than that, he was a bad shooter as well (shooting 20% from behind the arc in all other games, and under 30% his freshman year as well, which was also buoyed by a couple of ridiculous performances surrounded by 17% shooting from behind the arc in all other freshman contests). He sucked. Anything positive to be found in his stats can be linked back to a handful of games, literally like five good games in two years of college basketball. He was horrible. We are so bad now that he actually would have value on this team, but that is an indictment of oscar's recruiting and in no way an endorsement of Nigel's Johnson basketball skill, which was minimal.

Wacky, don't listen to this guy. I enjoyed watching you play when you played.

TownieCat · « **Reply #401 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:16:52 AM »

There's no way to back this up statistically other than his minutes played, but Nigel couldn't guard anyone.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #402 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:17:42 AM »

Quote from: ksupamplemousse on February 19, 2016, 11:11:14 AM

Wacky, Nigel Johnson was a very objectively bad point guard. He never even sniffed a 2-1 a/to ratio. The closest he got was 1.5/1, and that is just terrible. He was bad at basketball. He buoyed his 3p% his sophomore year by having three out of body experience type games, but other than that, he was a bad shooter as well (shooting 20% from behind the arc in all other games, and under 30% his freshman year as well, which was also buoyed by a couple of ridiculous performances surrounded by 17% shooting from behind the arc in all other freshman contests). He sucked. Anything positive to be found in his stats can be linked back to a handful of games, literally like five good games in two years of college basketball. He was horrible. We are so bad now that he actually would have value on this team, but that is an indictment of oscar's recruiting and in no way an endorsement of Nigel's Johnson basketball skill, which was minimal.

I don't think he would have much value this year; Brown and Stokes are much better players. He might get minutes over Ervin.

Johnson was a big reason we beat KU and ISU, so in a way I can see why wacky is overvaluing his play, but its still really weird.

Also, I often morphed Nigel with Wesley and kept calling one or the other "Wesley Johnson", who was actually the former Cyclone and Orangeman who is now in the NBA.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #403 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:19:51 AM »

Quote from: TownieCat on February 19, 2016, 11:16:52 AM

There's no way to back this up statistically other than his minutes played, but Nigel couldn't guard anyone.

He was really good at steals, but that doesn't make him a good defender.

CNS · « **Reply #404 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:22:02 AM »

I like Nigel. I miss liking our players.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #405 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:23:25 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 19, 2016, 10:38:32 AM

Quote from: TownieCat on February 19, 2016, 10:37:27 AM
Nigel played in 62 games for K-State and only scored in 40 of them.
How many of those games did he have limited playing time because of that other crap face PG?

More limited by him sucking

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #406 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:37:59 AM »

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on February 19, 2016, 11:17:42 AM

Quote from: ksupamplemousse on February 19, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
Wacky, Nigel Johnson was a very objectively bad point guard. He never even sniffed a 2-1 a/to ratio. The closest he got was 1.5/1, and that is just terrible. He was bad at basketball. He buoyed his 3p% his sophomore year by having three out of body experience type games, but other than that, he was a bad shooter as well (shooting 20% from behind the arc in all other games, and under 30% his freshman year as well, which was also buoyed by a couple of ridiculous performances surrounded by 17% shooting from behind the arc in all other freshman contests). He sucked. Anything positive to be found in his stats can be linked back to a handful of games, literally like five good games in two years of college basketball. He was horrible. We are so bad now that he actually would have value on this team, but that is an indictment of oscar's recruiting and in no way an endorsement of Nigel's Johnson basketball skill, which was minimal.

I don't think he would have much value this year; Brown and Stokes are much better players. He might get minutes over Ervin.

Johnson was a big reason we beat KU and ISU, so in a way I can see why wacky is overvaluing his play, but its still really weird.

Also, I often morphed Nigel with Wesley and kept calling one or the other "Wesley Johnson", who was actually the former Cyclone and Orangeman who is now in the NBA.

Ervin most likely doesn't get recruited if Nigel is still here, that's all I was saying. He would have backed up Stokes. There's some value in that, not a lot, but some.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #407 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:40:24 AM »

Fine, you guys win. I'm off of work. Have a great day! Rowdy- 1 Wacky- 0.

till next time.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #408 on:** February 19, 2016, 11:43:52 AM »

Quote from: CNS on February 19, 2016, 11:22:02 AM

I like Nigel. I miss liking our players.

I don't particularly care for our seniors, but I like the rest of this team.

I really like DJamer, Stokes, Brown, and Wade. I go back and forth with Wes, but mainly like him. I'd take all of those guys over Nigel.

Brock Landers · « **Reply #409 on:** February 19, 2016, 12:28:40 PM »

I just clicked on this thread for the first time in a couple of days and I'm not sure what the hell is going on with all the Nigel Johnson talk. Is it worth going back a few pages to see how it started??

Brock Landers · « **Reply #410 on:** February 19, 2016, 12:55:02 PM »

Okay my curiosity got the best of me so I went back and found where the Nigel Johnson talk started. Oh Wacky

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #411 on:** February 19, 2016, 02:34:36 PM »

CHONGS · « **Reply #412 on:** February 19, 2016, 03:22:01 PM »

To be fair, basketball really is basically a two game season for ole wackster.

Bill Clarahan · « **Reply #413 on:** February 19, 2016, 03:34:46 PM »

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on February 19, 2016, 11:43:52 AM

Quote from: CNS on February 19, 2016, 11:22:02 AM
I like Nigel. I miss liking our players.

I don't particularly care for our seniors, but I like the rest of this team.

I really like DJamer, Stokes, Brown, and Wade. I go back and forth with Wes, but mainly like him. I'd take all of those guys over Nigel.

I really don't see how Wade will be a decent player unless he gets away from oscar and then it looks iffy

mocat · « **Reply #414 on:** February 19, 2016, 03:35:33 PM »

Quote from: Chingon on February 19, 2016, 03:22:01 PM

To be fair, basketball really is basically a two game season for ole wackster.

TownieCat · « **Reply #415 on:** March 12, 2016, 12:18:32 PM »

11-8 vs the SEC. Only had to play UK, A&M, LSU, and Vandy once each. #62 RPI and #128 SOS. One top 50 win.

Best of luck to the Gamecocks in the NIT.

SdK · « **Reply #416 on:** March 12, 2016, 12:36:14 PM »

Maybe next year!

wetwillie · « **Reply #417 on:** March 13, 2016, 12:13:51 PM »

Lunardi scratched SC to last four out

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #418 on:** March 13, 2016, 12:23:26 PM »

They pretty much called them a bunch of trash dicks.

Lucas Scoopsalot · « **Reply #419 on:** March 13, 2016, 12:33:52 PM »

Vitale said they deserve to be in during this morning game.

TownieCat · « **Reply #420 on:** March 13, 2016, 12:51:29 PM »

There are 5 or 6 mid major teams that are more deserving of a bid than SC. They have one win vs the projected field and a handful of horrible losses.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #421 on:** March 13, 2016, 01:04:17 PM »

How can you be in a P5 conference and only played 2 games against the RPI Top 50? Does that happen often? Georgia is 63rd.

TownieCat · « **Reply #422 on:** March 13, 2016, 01:35:54 PM »

The SEC is probably the 7th or 8th best conference this year. It has 2 very good teams and the rest is dog crap.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #423 on:** March 13, 2016, 01:47:39 PM »

https://twitter.com/JimMWeber/status/709060324025102342

MakeItRain · « **Reply #424 on:** March 13, 2016, 01:52:04 PM »

Their profile is trash but you can't objectively put WSU in and USC out, they both have one great win and not much else. WSU has 3 top 100 wins, USC has 8. WSU's marquee win was at home, USC's was on the road.