STAR WARS EPISODE VII THREAD WITH SPOILERS

[mocat]

you would think the first order would have made him shave his head or something, right?

The first order are the Yankees of the Galaxy.

if they were the yankees his hair would be short AF and he would have a great stache.

[Cartierfor3]

Rebellion is the Royals.

[Phil Titola]

Rebellion is the Royals.

oh man.....

Yoda- Mr. K
Luke - George Brett
Han - UL Washington
Leia - Ken Brett
Vader - Bo Jackson
Admiral Akbar - Joe Randa
Ren - Hosmer

[Mrs. Gooch]

Gooch's idea was that Rey is super strong in the force because both her parents are force sensitive (twincest). 

[Pete]

Gooch's idea was that Rey is super strong in the force because both her parents are force sensitive (twincest). 

Welling the Phantom Menenace they threw the idea out there that Aniken's mom, the slave, never had sex and Aniken was born from a virgin as the product of the "force."  So, maybe Luke had Rey without having sex, similar to his grandma, but kinda how Arnold Schwarzenegger did in the classic file, Twins.

[Asteriskhead]

Gooch's idea was that Rey is super strong in the force because both her parents are force sensitive (twincest). 

Welling the Phantom Menenace they threw the idea out there that Aniken's mom, the slave, never had sex and Aniken was born from a virgin as the product of the "force."  So, maybe Luke had Rey without having sex, similar to his grandma, but kinda how Arnold Schwarzenegger did in the classic file, Twins.

smh, that's Junior, man.

[Panjandrum]

Gooch's idea was that Rey is super strong in the force because both her parents are force sensitive (twincest). 

Welling the Phantom Menenace they threw the idea out there that Aniken's mom, the slave, never had sex and Aniken was born from a virgin as the product of the "force."  So, maybe Luke had Rey without having sex, similar to his grandma, but kinda how Arnold Schwarzenegger did in the classic file, Twins.

It may just be coincidence in casting, but man...

[puniraptor]

Rewatch ing phantom menace probably for the first timeas an adult and it is just mind blowingly horrible. The only good part is where that short armed worm alien pod racer is like "SQUAAAAAANT" and crashes and dies in the cave. The trade federation guys have a Japanese accent.

[star seed 7]

Rewatch ing phantom menace probably for the first timeas an adult and it is just mind blowingly horrible. The only good part is where that short armed worm alien pod racer is like "SQUAAAAAANT" and crashes and dies in the cave. The trade federation guys have a Japanese accent.

So racist

[The Big Train]

Saw it today. Wow! I loved it, I waited to even open this thread until I watched it. Agree with a lot of the theories and stuff ITT. Probably go watch it again

[KCFDcat]

Saw it again tonight. Wow. Much better second time.

[scottwildcat]

I was a fan of the film but I don't understand how Finn or Rey could compete in a light saber duel with someone who is trained in the art. Also is Rey the ultimate Jedi? How else could she be so strong with no training? 


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[KCFDcat]

I was a fan of the film but I don't understand how Finn or Rey could compete in a light saber duel with someone who is trained in the art. Also is Rey the ultimate Jedi? How else could she be so strong with no training? 


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She's the real chosen one. Anakin was a fake.

[Dr Rick Daris]

Watched it in imax 3D. It was well done and broadly appealing. Can't wait for the next and I think I've only seen three of the previous.

[renocat]

I knew I should not have gone.  My inner Luke Wookie is trying to get out.  Making light saber noises when whizzing is not a healthy sign of stable mental health.  Great movie.  Renosweets is still mourning the heartless killing of Han.  She wapped my son and said don't do that to your father.  I will stay away from renoboy when I have nasal problems.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Ok. Saw it tonight for first time and here are hot takes without having read this thread.

Overall I enjoyed it. Definitely better than Lucas's prequel CGI shitstorm.

The things I enjoyed most were:
1. Truer to the original series. Loved the bigger presence of physical set pieces, muppets, etc.
2. Good actors which actually had some good dialogue.
3. Lots of good humor, just like Ep 4.
4. Love the new droid.
5. Han was great.

Stuff I didn't like so much:
1. Not much of a story. It really doesn't stand on its own and was actually boring at times.
2. The new bad guy seemed like a whiny little bitch. Hope he gets a lot better.
3. At times this movie felt less like a new installment and more just a reunion of old friends and tribute to the old series. Which is great and all, but doesn't necessarily make for a great movie. I felt the same way about Indy 4 - but this was way better than Indy 4.

Finally, I was surprised we got almost nothing from Brienne. WTF?

[Cartierfor3]

comparing that to Indy 4 is something a low would do

[Pete]

I was a fan of the film but I don't understand how Finn or Rey could compete in a light saber duel with someone who is trained in the art. Also is Rey the ultimate Jedi? How else could she be so strong with no training? 


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I think Rey and Finn are Jedi, who were trained for a bit at Luke's academy, and Rey is particularly talented with the force (Luke's kid, what).

I just saw it for a second time tonight.  It really struck me how good the little things were in this film.  Great side characters all over the place. 

That Hitler-esque New Order general will be fun to hate going forward.  Kylo is going in to "have his training completed" by the Supreme Leader, so he should mature quite a bit....I think it was very purposeful to have him be such a bitch.

One thing I am worried about is what they are going to do with Poe.   There is a story out about how JJ was going to have him die in this episode, but later rethought that.  If that's the case, then it seems hard to believe that Poe is a large part of the future movies, unless they totally re-write stuff.  Without Poe, they really lack the "bad boy" element that Han gave them.  Maybe Luke will make up for that going forward, which would be a fun twist to see, but I doubt it.

[Trim]

They should've filmed all 3 movies at once. 

[The Big Train]

this isnt LOTR

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

They should've filmed all 3 movies at once.

this isnt LOTR

Well yes and no. It is very clearly just the first installment of a larger story. It doesn't stand well on its own. So yeah, I wish they'd filmed them together, too.

Compare this to Episode 4. Or JJA's Star Trek reboots. You can tell those movies are part of a larger series, but they stand on their own. I submit that the first Star Trek reboot was a better movie, considered independently, than Force Awakens.

[Pete]

They should've filmed all 3 movies at once.

this isnt LOTR

Well yes and no. It is very clearly just the first installment of a larger story. It doesn't stand well on its own. So yeah, I wish they'd filmed them together, too.

Compare this to Episode 4. Or JJA's Star Trek reboots. You can tell those movies are part of a larger series, but they stand on their own. I submit that the first Star Trek reboot was a better movie, considered independently, than Force Awakens.

No one gave a eff if Force Awakens stood on its own.  It wasn't for them, it was for us.

[renocat]

I think Luke is Rey's dad.  Han will come back.  Is Chewy male or female?  This could have offspring possibilities.  Who is the old turd map guy or the bugged eye gal with the lightsaber? 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I like the idea of Rey being in Luke's academy for a time before Kylo destroyed it. Then Luke (or somebody - probably that old map piece guy at the very beginning) hid her in the junkyard - where she's "waiting" for someone to come back and get her. Of course, there's that scene towards the beginning where she is surprised that Luke isn't just a myth but that could simply be because she was really young in the academy and now she's starting to think she dreamed the whole thing.

Anyway, that would all be way better than her being Luke's daughter.

I also agree with a lot of the other comments about this movie borrowing too heavily from the original series. There's a difference between paying tribute to, and totally ripping off, the preceding storyline. Let's see:
1. Starts with a kid in the desert, strong in the force, who stumbles upon a droid holding secret information.
2. Hi, this is Kylo, the New Darth Vader, who was a Jedi pupil before turning to the dark side and destroying the Jedi Order, just like Old Darth Vader.
3. Hey, it just so happens the Millennium Falcon is here, which we again think is garbage!
4. Hey, the Millennium Falcon has smuggler's holds - let's hide there!
5. Hey, we need to do some emergency repairs on the Millennium Falcon!
6. Next stop, New Mos Eisley Cantina!
7. Jump to New Rebel Base, about to be destroyed by a New Death Star, so let's do a New Mission to Disable the Shields! Bring back Admiral Lobster for extra grins!
8. Let's mention sending Brienne down to the trash compactor in the New Death Star (but not actually show it, or give Brianne any face time whatsoever)!
9. Ok, real quick, let's insert a bridge scene with a big family connection reveal between the good guy and the bad guy (even though we spoiled that earlier). Plus, Harrison Ford has only agreed to a one movie deal.
10. Ok - now let's blow up The New Death Star with a New Trench Run!

Bonus: Next up Kylo goes to Dagobah to complete his training (with a guy who'll actually be small like Yoda), only it will totally be different because he's training to be a Sith!

So I'm sure it was a lot of fun for most fans of the Star Wars franchise - I liked it - but it's just not a very filling dish.

[Asteriskhead]

I'm holding out for the second installment before I rule it a nostalgic, money-grabbing, crock of crap.