Doug Gottlieb on 810 WHB The Program with Soren Petro

[420seriouscat69]

recruiting is def way down the list of reasons to not want oscar coaching your team

That's fair, but I don't think most #BID'RS understand he's out recruited frank in his later years here. He also made Southwell worth while in his final year here.

[420seriouscat69]

_Fan was burn it down just a week ago, must have really put up some solid stats going 1-1 this last week.

I think most people are too stupid to understand nuance when it comes to sports. _FAN is far too analytical to ever be defined as burn it down.

or too smart and sane to confess to such nonsense.

[Tobias]

recruiting is def way down the list of reasons to not want oscar coaching your team

That's fair, but I don't think most #BID'RS understand he's out recruited frank in his later years here. He also made Southwell worth while in his final year here.

i don't think i agree with either statement

[Tobias]

(loved shane btw, meant i disagree he took some quantum leap as a sr)

[MakeItRain]

WC08 pretend we just lost to Nebraska or whatever in 2007 and I "dissed" Ron Prince. You gonna let me get away with that?

I wanted Prince to coach here forever. I was pissed when he got fired after losing to KU in '08, my bias was unapologetically transparent. In fairness I lived in Boston for years two and three of the Ron Prince era so I had no idea about the stuff going on off of the field. I don't know if this knowledge would have changed my mind.

[MakeItRain]

I hate so much when people say this and it's ALWAYS offered without a shred of evidence, even anecdotal. I could write a think piece length post about why this offends me so much but I won't do it.

One of the guys that does this the most is our guy Doug.

I've been off of that doug narcotic for a while. I mentioned it on here a year or two ago and without being able to verbalize why, and _33 acted like he knew why I was down on him. I enjoy listening to him with Soren and on broadcasts because he's knowledgeable and entertaining but I think he's way off base with this and a few other things.

[MakeItRain]

recruiting is def way down the list of reasons to not want oscar coaching your team

That's fair, but I don't think most #BID'RS understand he's out recruited frank in his later years here. He also made Southwell worth while in his final year here.

i don't think i agree with either statement

I definitely don't

[Ptolemy]

recruiting is def way down the list of reasons to not want oscar coaching your team

That's fair, but I don't think most #BID'RS understand he's out recruited frank in his later years here. He also made Southwell worth while in his final year here.

But, you cannot run from the fact that Oscar coached this...

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/12/28/7458349/texas-southern-beats-kansas-state-in-unlikeliest-end-of-game-win-ever

[MakeItRain]

recruiting is def way down the list of reasons to not want oscar coaching your team

That's fair, but I don't think most #BID'RS understand he's out recruited frank in his later years here. He also made Southwell worth while in his final year here.

But, you cannot run from the fact that Oscar coached this...

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/12/28/7458349/texas-southern-beats-kansas-state-in-unlikeliest-end-of-game-win-ever

Stuff like this is exactly why I want oscar fired, no matter what. I don't care if we win the Big 12 tournament and go to the sweet 16. I'll party my ass off, no doubt but I'll still want him gone. Meltdowns will always happen with his teams and I think it's because how he coaches his teams. All that screaming and frenetic behavior does nothing to manifest confidence and poise. We can't even win games without panicking. Good guy, petty good with milking talent, terrible everywhere else.

[gatoveintisiete]

You add a Fred Van Vleet to this team and it would be REALLY good.

[GregKSU1027]

You add a Fred Van Vleet to this team and it would be REALLY good.

Yeah I would take a pro point guard over a sophomore anyday too gat 

[felix rex]

That guy at Washington is probably gonna get fired, right? I'm all for hiring him and rolling the dice on a John Blake type scenario.

My goodness oscar makes some of you people desperate. Lorenzo is worse than oscar.

Well, just for like a couple seasons. You know, for the recruits.

[Dr Rick Daris]

Also, oscar's recruiting has been one of the better qualities of his tenure here. When he wasn't brining in a 4*, he brought in Foster, Inwundu, kam, brown, DJamer, and more.

How many NCAA games have those recruits won?

[Dr Rick Daris]

If Oscar could recruit just a hair better i.e. A quality point guard, and knew how to lead a team ( no chance) , he would be an awesome coach, I like his brand of basketball.  His shortcomings with the first two items however relegate his teams to being competitive at a high level but average in the end.  He could potentially solve the recruiting problem but he isn't capable of leading a squad. 

Kam is a stud. This team was on pace for the tourney before he got injured last year. If you want to claim him a combo guard. I'm fine with that, but he's the best "PG" we've had since Denny

1) no
2) no

[SkinnyBenny]

Haven't read the thread, but I listened to the Petro/Gottleib thing and my word, Doug got absolutely roasted. By the end of the interview you could absolutely hear in his voice that he knew he'd gotten destroyed.

[kso_FAN]

Stuff like this is exactly why I want oscar fired, no matter what. I don't care if we win the Big 12 tournament and go to the sweet 16. I'll party my ass off, no doubt but I'll still want him gone. Meltdowns will always happen with his teams and I think it's because how he coaches his teams. All that screaming and frenetic behavior does nothing to manifest confidence and poise. We can't even win games without panicking. Good guy, petty good with milking talent, terrible everywhere else.

Well said.

[420seriouscat69]

recruiting is def way down the list of reasons to not want oscar coaching your team

That's fair, but I don't think most #BID'RS understand he's out recruited frank in his later years here. He also made Southwell worth while in his final year here.

i don't think i agree with either statement

That's fine, but wasn't Southwell's numbers out the roof compared to his previous three years? _fan?

[Tobias]

forgot oscar had him for his half his career here - good bump in playing time and per 40 points after soph year, which then became less efficient the following year.  that jr year was prolly the one you're thinking of - 44% from 3

[420seriouscat69]

Yeah, that one.

[hatingfrancisco]

Some of you guys spend too much time watching the sidelines waiting for oscar to make a funny face rather than watching a pretty decent young team doing good things and actually playing good basketball.

[kslim]

Some of you guys spend too much time watching the sidelines waiting for oscar to make a funny face rather than watching a pretty decent young team doing good things and actually playing good basketball.

its not a funny face when he loses

[420seriouscat69]

[pissclams]

Some of you guys spend too much time watching the sidelines waiting for oscar to make a funny face rather than watching a pretty decent young team doing good things and actually playing good basketball.

i do both

[sonofdaxjones]

Lol at anyone that doesn't think that many many programs aren't up to shenanigans. 

Look at UNC.  We had to listen for decades about the "Carolina Way".  That entire storyline is about to be shattered if the NCAA would just DO THEIR JOB.  The have finally deemed that for all matter of thinking, that UNC is a hostile entity that is determined to not work with the NCAA in investigating this extreme level of academic fraud that kept athletes academically eligible for decades.   Why is Carolina fighting so hard against the NCAA?  They know that entire aura of Dean Smith and Roy Williams and the "Carolina Way" is about to take a massive hit. 

A few years ago either the NYT or the Atlantic ran a lengthy story on the "bag men" of the SEC.  The 10-20k level boosters who have a few thousand bucks of fun money all the time, who get reached out to in order to provide $2-3-4K bucks that's given to recruits to get them to sign or at least commit.   

If you don't think that crap isn't replicated across the landscape of major college athletics than your extremely naive.

[pissclams]

 
we've all seen blue chips, dax