Breaking up the United States

[Dugout DickStone]

https://twitter.com/jefftimmer/status/1628824839829028864?s=20

The periods after every word thing is the tip top of my pet peeve list

Yeah but it helps idiots get the point I think.  red states really don't understand they would literally fail without blue states.  They would haver to sell literally every product they produce, especially commodities at bargain basement prices to blue states.  They would be a wasteland in a decade.

They wouldn't fail.

How would they replace the welfare/handouts?

[CNS]

https://twitter.com/jefftimmer/status/1628824839829028864?s=20

The periods after every word thing is the tip top of my pet peeve list

What’s worse is the clap emoji instead of periods.

[DQ12]

Everyone should stick together because the sum is greater than the parts, imo.  Divorce would hurt red states and blue states.  Red states probably more.  But I mean, the coalition of red states wouldn't become third world or something.  Pretty dumb notion.

[Dugout DickStone]

Everyone should stick together because the sum is greater than the parts, imo.  Divorce would hurt red states and blue states.  Red states probably more.  But I mean, the coalition of red states wouldn't become third world or something.  Pretty dumb notion.

I think thinking they wouldn't is ver dumb so it appears there is a difference of opinion.

[DQ12]

Everyone should stick together because the sum is greater than the parts, imo.  Divorce would hurt red states and blue states.  Red states probably more.  But I mean, the coalition of red states wouldn't become third world or something.  Pretty dumb notion.

I think thinking they wouldn't is ver dumb so it appears there is a difference of opinion.

I mean, Texas alone has a higher GDP than Canada.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Everyone should stick together because the sum is greater than the parts, imo.  Divorce would hurt red states and blue states. Red states probably more.  But I mean, the coalition of red states wouldn't become third world or something.  Pretty dumb notion.

We are better together!

[sonofdaxjones]

In just 3 core #blueanon states, they would have to absorb approx 300k Federal payroll positions and figure out a way to fund around 450k Federal retirees. 

Those 3 states combined calculate current and future unfunded state pension obligations and current state pension debt in the trillions. 

There would be extreme pain all around. Giant simp brained derps on both sides keep talking about this. But that's what giant simp brained derps do, talk about stupid things.

[Dugout DickStone]

Everyone should stick together because the sum is greater than the parts, imo.  Divorce would hurt red states and blue states.  Red states probably more.  But I mean, the coalition of red states wouldn't become third world or something.  Pretty dumb notion.

I think thinking they wouldn't is ver dumb so it appears there is a difference of opinion.

I mean, Texas alone has a higher GDP than Canada.

and they will happily support MS, LA, AL.  We know Texas is generous and happily supports those not from Texas

[Rage Against the McKee]

The southern states would be on par with Mexico, maybe a little weaker economically.

[Justwin]

The southern states would be on par with Mexico, maybe a little weaker economically.

People in Mississippi would be four times richer on average than people in Mexico.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

As usual, James Baldwin has the last word for us on this issue:

https://twitter.com/blackrepublican/status/1509591895873306632?s=20

[Rage Against the McKee]

The southern states would be on par with Mexico, maybe a little weaker economically.

People in Mississippi would be four times richer on average than people in Mexico.

People in Mississippi would be at least four times poorer than they are today.

[nicname]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

[mocat]

everybody would just have to bootstrap a little more bootstrappily

[yoga-like_abana]

As usual, James Baldwin has the last word for us on this issue:

https://twitter.com/blackrepublican/status/1509591895873306632?s=20

I like it

[nicname]

everybody would just have to bootstrap a little more bootstrappily

Depends on where you would choose to live.

[nicname]

The desire to control

[Brock Landers]

https://twitter.com/jefftimmer/status/1628824839829028864?s=20

The periods after every word thing is the tip top of my pet peeve list

What’s worse is the clap emoji instead of periods.

Somebody could text me the next set of winning Powerball numbers but if there was a clap emoji in between the numbers I wouldn't even look at it.  It's more than just a pet peeve for me.

[Spracne]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

We already had some smart racists put their heads together and decide on a format. See the Constitution. You don't need to follow in their footsteps.

[Rage Against the McKee]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

Like the Articles of Confederation?

[nicname]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

We already had some smart racists put their heads together and decide on a format. See the Constitution. You don't need to follow in their footsteps.

Oh come on.

[Justwin]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

Like the Articles of Confederation?

I'm guessing he's imagining something more like the European Union.

[Kat Kid]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

Non aggression principle and property rights don’t really play nicely together and is the thread that very quickly unravels libertarian thought once you tug on it.

[Justwin]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

Non aggression principle and property rights don’t really play nicely together and is the thread that very quickly unravels libertarian thought once you tug on it.

In what way?

I think the best argument against the non-aggression principle and libertarian thought is the idea that if we could save 30 million people by giving you a scratch on your finger, the non-aggression principle would say we shouldn't do it. I say this and consider myself pretty libertarian.

[nicname]

You guys are too much.


Minimalist fed gov
Mutual defense (I prefer no standing army, just a bunch of state guard units)
Protect free trade among the states
States can form blocks to work together for various issues, social services
Protect the individual rights  (people not corps)
Non-aggression principle

A homogeneous culture is neither feasible or desirable imo

I’ve not thought this through

Non aggression principle and property rights don’t really play nicely together and is the thread that very quickly unravels libertarian thought once you tug on it.

In what way?

I think the best argument against the non-aggression principle and libertarian thought is the idea that if we could save 30 million people by giving you a scratch on your finger, the non-aggression principle would say we shouldn't do it. I say this and consider myself pretty libertarian.

Things don’t have to be taken to extremes. Just leave people alone. Don’t try to control or coerce at a federal level.