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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #425 on: June 25, 2022, 12:37:34 AM »
California would prolly get invaded by China, and the SEC wouldn’t do crap about it. Then Chinese Red Dawn for the entire continent after that.

Sorry guys, those are the facts.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #426 on: June 25, 2022, 04:41:31 PM »
End of the empire? I’m here for it.
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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #427 on: June 25, 2022, 10:06:12 PM »
Man, it's just amazing watching people living at the pinnacle of first world problems who are in a perpetual state of being triggered by everything.

Rape victims being forced to carry their rapist’s baby to term is not a “first wold problem,” or someone being “triggered,”  fyi. It’s an egregious human rights violation happening in a supposed first world country.
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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #428 on: June 26, 2022, 10:37:03 AM »
Man, it's just amazing watching people living at the pinnacle of first world problems who are in a perpetual state of being triggered by everything.

Rape victims being forced to carry their rapist’s baby to term is not a “first wold problem,” or someone being “triggered,”  fyi. It’s an egregious human rights violation happening in a supposed first world country.
Oh, thanks for your usual bullshit drive by directed only at me (as usual) Skinny.  Like @turnbull it’s super on brand that you never seem to show up in any thread to discuss the #shitshow presidency that we have now and it’s lunatic #blueanon enablers (like you).

If you’d paid any attention at all my comment was primarily aimed at the people who every time they don’t get their way want to eradicate the process entirely.  In this case the process is the United States. 


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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #429 on: June 29, 2022, 04:38:45 PM »



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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #430 on: November 23, 2022, 07:34:01 AM »
I think trim should be barred from posting in this thread or from using the term brownbackistan ever again.

Is there a major city government as authoritarian and boot licky as Seattle? $1.5 million dollars for police advertising?

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #431 on: November 23, 2022, 09:07:52 AM »
I think trim should be barred from posting in this thread or from using the term brownbackistan ever again.

Is there a major city government as authoritarian and boot licky as Seattle? $1.5 million dollars for police advertising?

Ryan is apparently bad at watching videos and/or looking at the very available budget docs online. Or he’s fine at both but wanted to get that tweet off anyway. You have to do some bouncing around to see how the loads of amendments intertwine with each other, but it’s not that hard. And that’s even without knowing all the local politics/grift contexts.

https://www.seattle.gov/council/issues/understanding-councils-budget-amendments

Either way, neither his daxian-level spun tweet nor anything else that happens in the local pissing matches between the socialist side of city council and the still very democrat rest of council and the mayor are applicable to the populations of far-sprung areas of the country being so divergent on what they want that the country should amicably divorce in some manner that has people living in the societies they want.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #432 on: November 23, 2022, 11:28:08 AM »
You're out of your goddamned mind if you think I'm reading that. All I know about this Ryan dude is that he seems to go to all of these meetings to report on city expenditures and not a single reply took exception to this or any other thing he reported from that meeting. You should take him on, I wanna see the tweet and replies.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #433 on: November 23, 2022, 11:32:10 AM »
I think trim should be barred from posting in this thread or from using the term brownbackistan ever again.

Is there a major city government as authoritarian and boot licky as Seattle? $1.5 million dollars for police advertising?

Ryan is apparently bad at watching videos and/or looking at the very available budget docs online. Or he’s fine at both but wanted to get that tweet off anyway. You have to do some bouncing around to see how the loads of amendments intertwine with each other, but it’s not that hard. And that’s even without knowing all the local politics/grift contexts.

https://www.seattle.gov/council/issues/understanding-councils-budget-amendments

Either way, neither his daxian-level spun tweet nor anything else that happens in the local pissing matches between the socialist side of city council and the still very democrat rest of council and the mayor are applicable to the populations of far-sprung areas of the country being so divergent on what they want that the country should amicably divorce in some manner that has people living in the societies they want.
The irony here is you invoked the name of Dax to describe the other guy without offering anything of substance to contradict him.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #434 on: November 23, 2022, 11:37:57 AM »
I think trim should be barred from posting in this thread or from using the term brownbackistan ever again.

Is there a major city government as authoritarian and boot licky as Seattle? $1.5 million dollars for police advertising?

Ryan is apparently bad at watching videos and/or looking at the very available budget docs online. Or he’s fine at both but wanted to get that tweet off anyway. You have to do some bouncing around to see how the loads of amendments intertwine with each other, but it’s not that hard. And that’s even without knowing all the local politics/grift contexts.

https://www.seattle.gov/council/issues/understanding-councils-budget-amendments

Either way, neither his daxian-level spun tweet nor anything else that happens in the local pissing matches between the socialist side of city council and the still very democrat rest of council and the mayor are applicable to the populations of far-sprung areas of the country being so divergent on what they want that the country should amicably divorce in some manner that has people living in the societies they want.
The irony here is you invoked the name of Dax to describe the other guy without offering anything of substance to contradict him.

page 1 of the dax playbook
page 2 would be that link contradicting the post, but like I said, hell naw, not reading it

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #435 on: November 23, 2022, 12:29:24 PM »
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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #436 on: November 23, 2022, 12:31:23 PM »
A more anti-federalist approach to federal governance would do wonders to cure our ills imo.
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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #437 on: November 23, 2022, 12:36:54 PM »
A more anti-federalist approach to federal governance would do wonders to cure our ills imo.

Like leaving a woman's right to bodily autonomy up to our dumb-ass states? Uh...

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #438 on: November 23, 2022, 12:42:53 PM »
A more anti-federalist approach to federal governance would do wonders to cure our ills imo.

Like leaving a woman's right to bodily autonomy up to our dumb-ass states? Uh...

Even in that cherry-picked case, yes.
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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #439 on: November 23, 2022, 12:45:32 PM »
A more anti-federalist approach to federal governance would do wonders to cure our ills imo.

Like leaving a woman's right to bodily autonomy up to our dumb-ass states? Uh...

Even in that cherry-picked case, yes.

I've learned over the years that most states actually suck ass and are terrible at protecting individual rights.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #440 on: November 23, 2022, 12:47:30 PM »
To find the most glaring mistakes, one only had to CTRL-F "Northwest" and click on the budget amendment doc.

https://seattle.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=11466058&GUID=B6231F38-79F0-488C-AE49-6ECA793F3AFD

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Budget Action Description:
This Council Budget Action would reduce proposed funding for planned media purchases by $500,000 GF in 2023 (one-time) from the Seattle Police Department (SPD) and add $500,000 GF in 2023 (onetime) to the Office of Arts and Culture (ARTS) for organizations showcasing African American art, history and culture in the Pacific Northwest, such as the Northwest (NW) African American Museum. Many cultural organizations, including the Northwest (NW) African American Museum, were closed during the pandemic and are gradually reopening. The NW African American Museum anticipates reopening in February 2023.

The 2023-2024 Proposed Budget includes $1.5 million in 2023 for SPD's planned media expenditures in support of recruitment and retention. CBA 903-A-002-2023 in the initial balancing package scaled this amount to $750,000 to help address decreased City revenues and support other Council priorities. The remaining $750,000 in scaled funding was to fund a marketing consultant who would create a detailed marketing plan and manage remaining resources, building on $170,000 authorized in 2022 in ORD 126654 for literature, web design, and production. This CBA would reduce the remaining $750,000 by $500,000, leaving $250,000 of the initially proposed $1.5 million for SPD media expenditures.

1) The $500K in question was to go to the Office of Arts & Culture and in turn for organizations such as the museum, not the museum itself.
2) The museum is reopening in 3 months either way.
3) This $500K cut from the PD would've been after $750K was cut from $1.5m already for addressing City revenues and supporting other Council priorities.
4) This $500k cut would've then taken the allocated amount to $250K, not $1m.

You can go way deeper by looking at the referenced amendment in this one and then tracing it through to others to see the PD budget cuts.  You could go way, way, way deeper by delving into the battles among councilmember groupings and mayors and special interest groups.  But I think just comparing the particular amendment's budget doc to the tweet is sufficient for gE. 

Anytime I read or hear something that seems a bit outlandish on any side of an argument, I like to look it up and read the details myself.

Still don't know what any of this would have to do with splitting off the confederacy, etc.