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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2015, 08:45:48 PM »
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2015, 08:55:43 PM »
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

I don't know why Marshall would ever leave WSU. It's a new ballgame - he's in better shape than basically all non-blue bloods.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2015, 09:00:51 PM »
Yeah, we need Texas to play well this week #hookem

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2015, 09:06:18 PM »
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

I don't know why Marshall would ever leave WSU. It's a new ballgame - he's in better shape than basically all non-blue bloods.
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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2015, 12:27:45 AM »
If Marshall leaves wsu how much do they offer brad

I don't know why Marshall would ever leave WSU. It's a new ballgame - he's in better shape than basically all non-blue bloods.
Ego.

And I'll bet Marshall has plenty of ego.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2015, 12:30:31 AM »
All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2015, 12:33:57 AM »
All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2015, 12:36:58 AM »
All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2015, 12:39:16 AM »


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2015, 12:54:02 AM »
i'll add another possible candidate...

chris jans, current bowling green coach, would be a home-run hire for k-state. in his first season at bgsu, he's led them to a 19-10 (11-7 MAC) record and has a chance to reach 20 wins if they win as expected on monday. bowling's kenpom rating is 86th, highest in more than a decade, after being mostly in the 150s to 240s the last 10 years. the turnaround has been far quicker than anybody could have expected.

jans spent eight years working as an assistant under marshall at wichita, and also had a previous stint at independence, so he's very familiar with kansas. he's been a head coach at five schools (one or two year stints at all), and is 175-51 overall (he's never won fewer than 20 games at any stop, and has 25-plus wins in four of seven seasons).

anyway, the guy is impressive. would be a good option for 2016-17.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2015, 04:05:53 AM »
Jans is pretty good. Boring, slow bball though. <---- not really so boring if you're good.
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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2015, 04:52:13 AM »
I'd take Marshall. 

He's better than oscar.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2015, 05:46:15 AM »


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.
I was thinking Indiana, Texas.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2015, 06:49:58 AM »


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.
I was thinking Indiana, Texas.


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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2015, 08:37:56 AM »
Kevin Keatts at UNCW might be one to keep an eye on, prior to UNCW he was the Associate HC at Louisville.  He took the same team that Buzz Peterson couldn't do a thing with and they finished 2nd in the CAA and will likely go to the NIT.   

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2015, 12:16:57 PM »
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #66 on: March 09, 2015, 12:24:33 PM »
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
and his "abrasive" personality would be a better fit there than most blue bloods imo.  Really, his act (or anyone's for that matter) will be accepted as long as he wins.  Hell, the hard core UT bb fans will embrace Gregg's total departure from Barnes' cool and detached style.  I just hope UT's AD doesn't rely on his NBA background goes with a Kevin O'Neill or Eddie Jordan type.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2015, 12:41:59 PM »


All coaches have massive egos. Marshall isn't going anywhere unless a blue blood comes calling. And he probably shouldn't.

Agreed. Marshall has it made where he is. But it will be hard for him to resist the school that wants to dump millions more than WSU can afford in his lap.

There aren't many non blue bloods that will do that, considering he's already pretty close to $2 million. And the security/goodwill he's built up in Wichita is worth a lot. Rebuilding ain't easy.

I think this is about right.  Don't forget that no college program could successfully lure Brad Stevens away either.  Basketball simply is not THAT big of a revenue generator, even for the largest schools.  To the extent most bigger schools could afford to pay more than $2 million to a BBall coach, that money is going toward getting a better FB coach or facilities since FB is probably 90% of what drives conference alignment, TV revenue, etc.

Unless Marshall is just sick of living in Wichita, I do not see why he would go anywhere else at least at the college level.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2015, 12:44:21 PM »
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
and his "abrasive" personality would be a better fit there than most blue bloods imo.  Really, his act (or anyone's for that matter) will be accepted as long as he wins.  Hell, the hard core UT bb fans will embrace Gregg's total departure from Barnes' cool and detached style.  I just hope UT's AD doesn't rely on his NBA background goes with a Kevin O'Neill or Eddie Jordan type.

I doubt that all five or six of the "hardcore UT bb fans" would have much of an impact on a UT coaching search.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #69 on: March 09, 2015, 12:53:24 PM »
The play-by-play guy at WSU seems to think that Marshall would have interest in Texas. Gregg would build an absolute monster at UT, would be scary. I bet he would take this year's team and make them at least 5 games better.
and his "abrasive" personality would be a better fit there than most blue bloods imo.  Really, his act (or anyone's for that matter) will be accepted as long as he wins.  Hell, the hard core UT bb fans will embrace Gregg's total departure from Barnes' cool and detached style.  I just hope UT's AD doesn't rely on his NBA background goes with a Kevin O'Neill or Eddie Jordan type.

I doubt that all five or six of the "hardcore UT bb fans" would have much of an impact on a UT coaching search.

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #70 on: March 09, 2015, 12:57:26 PM »
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.

Here in Bloomington, people have set up a buyout clock website (http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/03/05/indiana-tom-crean-buyout-clock) for Crean. Just because their football program is a dumpster fire, of course he will be back. K-State doesn't have to have that...

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2015/3/9/8175545/indiana-basketball-fans-continue-to-have-no-chill-chant-tom-crean

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #71 on: March 09, 2015, 01:17:19 PM »
i sent tom crean an email in 2009, complimenting his coaching job against oscar weber's illinois team.

indiana lost that game 65-52, fell behind by as many as 20, and didn't even cover the spread.

crean sent me this anyway... :lol:


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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2015, 01:20:01 PM »
tom crean is 120-107 overall (49-75 Big Ten) in seven years at indiana, has two ncaa tourney appearances, and has finished better than fifth in the Big Ten only once. last year, he finished tied for eighth. this year, seventh. he's likely to miss the tourney again this year.

and he'll almost surely be back for an eighth season.

oscar probably has similar job security, we just don't know it yet.

Here in Bloomington, people have set up a buyout clock website (http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/03/05/indiana-tom-crean-buyout-clock) for Crean. Just because their football program is a dumpster fire, of course he will be back. K-State doesn't have to have that...

http://www.crimsonquarry.com/2015/3/9/8175545/indiana-basketball-fans-continue-to-have-no-chill-chant-tom-crean
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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2015, 01:20:41 PM »
i sent tom crean an email in 2009, complimenting his coaching job against oscar weber's illinois team.

indiana lost that game 65-52, fell behind by as many as 20, and didn't even cover the spread.

crean sent me this anyway... :lol:



you used to go on and on about what an amazing coach he was

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Re: The new and now only oscar Weber replacement thread . . .
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2015, 01:21:52 PM »
i sent tom crean an email in 2009, complimenting his coaching job against oscar weber's illinois team.

indiana lost that game 65-52, fell behind by as many as 20, and didn't even cover the spread.

crean sent me this anyway... :lol:



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