Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Andy]

Who the shazbot! cares that Texas (or any other school) has their own TV network.  Football & men's B-ball are the big money makers and will always be covered under contracts with the major networks.  Women's b-ball, baseball, & probably soccer, v-ball & softball have limited broadcast contracts handled by the league.  If advertisers want to pay for ads and subscribers want to pay an extra cable fee to see Texas tennis, rowing, cross country, etc and more of the lessor sports on TV, I say let them and let UT have the minuscule net revenues.  Besides, if they want to broadcast a sport that they are playing against KSU, they should have to pay something to KSU for the right to broadcast it.  Therefore, more $$ for KSU.

For the sake of this thread, I'm going to call you a buffoon and leave it at that until you make another post and ask me why you are a buffoon.

Okay mister know it all, please explain to me why you think I am a buffoon because of this line of thinking.

Because nothing you said is true.

So I wait patiently for a reply, see you have posted and get all giddy in anticipation of your explanation of why you called me a buffoon and all i get is  "Because nothing you said is true."

 

WTF.  Is that all you've got?  No discussion of what I said that justifies calling me a buffoon.  Nothing that explains what is not true.  If that's all you've got, you need to go back to BBSing 101 and bush up on the fundamentals of posting before you post again.

One more point about the bitch and moaners of Texas having its own TV network.  Complaining about it being unfair that Texas can justify the demand for its own TV network and make money off it is like saying it is unfair that Texas has a larger FB stadium, and makes more on ticket sales.  Supply and demand people!!! Buyers and sellers, BUYERS AND SELLERS! Pimps and whores, PIMPS AND WHORES!

BTW, up to page 193.  Only 7 more to go.  Maybe spankalot can post some more pictures and that will help get over the hump.

i dont think anyone here is bothered by texas having the ability to start its own network. 
quite certain texas will make a lot more money putting their 3rd tier FB or BB or whatever games on an inhouse network compared to what KSU makes letting FSNKC broadcast their games vs Ft. Hays St and the like.  also, no league school is gonna pay rights to another league school for an in-house broadcast because its not texas's fault we don't choose to do our own broadcast for whatever game in question.

[scottwildcat]

would you brps be down for a EMAW/mizzou/uk TV network?? 

[ew2x4]

I'd rather have on demand KSU events online. Pay $100 a year and be able to watch all of our games live in HD or atleast 480p online.

[scottwildcat]

I'd rather have on demand KSU events online. Pay $100 a year and be able to watch all of our games live in HD or atleast 480p online.

that'd be good too

[jtksu]

The nice thing about having a conference newtork is the oppotunity to watch other sports.  Namely, baseball.  Other than that, meh.

[Kat Kid]

Who the shazbot! cares that Texas (or any other school) has their own TV network.  Football & men's B-ball are the big money makers and will always be covered under contracts with the major networks.  Women's b-ball, baseball, & probably soccer, v-ball & softball have limited broadcast contracts handled by the league.  If advertisers want to pay for ads and subscribers want to pay an extra cable fee to see Texas tennis, rowing, cross country, etc and more of the lessor sports on TV, I say let them and let UT have the minuscule net revenues.  Besides, if they want to broadcast a sport that they are playing against KSU, they should have to pay something to KSU for the right to broadcast it.  Therefore, more $$ for KSU.

For the sake of this thread, I'm going to call you a buffoon and leave it at that until you make another post and ask me why you are a buffoon.

Okay mister know it all, please explain to me why you think I am a buffoon because of this line of thinking.

Because nothing you said is true.

So I wait patiently for a reply, see you have posted and get all giddy in anticipation of your explanation of why you called me a buffoon and all i get is  "Because nothing you said is true."

 

WTF.  Is that all you've got?  No discussion of what I said that justifies calling me a buffoon.  Nothing that explains what is not true.  If that's all you've got, you need to go back to BBSing 101 and bush up on the fundamentals of posting before you post again.

One more point about the bitch and moaners of Texas having its own TV network.  Complaining about it being unfair that Texas can justify the demand for its own TV network and make money off it is like saying it is unfair that Texas has a larger FB stadium, and makes more on ticket sales.  Supply and demand people!!! Buyers and sellers, BUYERS AND SELLERS! Pimps and whores, PIMPS AND WHORES!

BTW, up to page 193.  Only 7 more to go.  Maybe spankalot can post some more pictures and that will help get over the hump.

I love this guy.

[steve dave]

Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist

Talk about it in Inside the 40 Acres

The Big 12 athletic directors are meeting Monday in Dallas with Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe to discuss scheduling and the penalty money owed by Nebraska and Colorado, according to sources.

 
AP: Associated Press
 
Missouri AD Mike Alden has to help repair damage done fo the Big 12 by Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon.
As Orangebloods.com reported exclusively last week, Nebraska and Colorado will forfeit close to $40 million under the bylaws of the Big 12 (by giving one year's notice for departure, both schools are subject to 80 percent forfeiture of TV revenue for TWO years).

Colorado has indicated to Big 12 officials it will join the Pac-10 in 2011. Nebraska had already announced it was joining the Big Ten in 2011.

Because both schools have already received partial payment of TV revenue for 2009-10, they will be expected to pay back the conference a combined total of $15 million to $20 million, according to sources.

(Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman has indicated NU will fight paying that money back by arguing NU has not damaged the Big 12 by leaving but has instead improved life for the remaining members financially.)

Neither NU or CU will receive any more TV revenue distribution from the Big 12 during their remaining time in the league, according to sources.


LET THE BIG 12 HEALING BEGIN?

Beebe will discuss with the Big 12 ADs how the league should proceed with scheduling in a 10-team league.

But the hottest topic at today's meeting, according to sources, will be the buyout penalty money from Colorado and Nebraska and how it will be distributed among the remaining 10 schools.

That money is one of the reasons Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma were guaranteed a minimum of $20 million in TV revenue in the remodeled Big 12.

There are two issues going on with the buyout penalty money:

1) the willingness of the "Orphan 5" - Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Iowa State and Baylor - to give their portion of NU and CU's forfeited TV revenue to Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma.

2) If the CU and NU penalty money should be distributed evenly among the 10 remaining schools.

A key source at Texas A&M said the Aggies don't need the "Orphan 5" to give up their entire share of the penalty money, just enough to ensure A&M of its $20 million guarantee. Sources at Texas and OU have indicated the same, even though both schools have come out publicly saying they don't need all of the Orphan 5's penalty money.

In other words, if $6 million is required to get Texas, Texas A&M and OU to their guarantee of $20 million after the other TV money is divided up, then take that $6 million out of the Orphan 5's share and distribute the rest evenly, sources said.

The agreement reached by the Orphan 5 last weekend, when the Big 12's fate was in the balance, has already rankled Texas Tech, whose regents wonder why Texas A&M was given a guarantee of $20 million and Tech was not.

The simple answer is Texas A&M was coveted by the SEC and had an invitation to that league if Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Tech had accepted offers to join the Pac-10. Now, the Aggies will stand to earn more money than the SEC is currently paying out to member schools in TV revenue ($17.3 million).


TIME TO HUG IT OUT

This meeting in Dallas should be interesting for several reasons: It's the first face-to-face meeting of the Big 12 athletic directors since the league pledged allegiance to each other last week.

Here are the relationships that probably need to heal the most:

1) Missouri and the rest of the league. At one point during the 12-day Big 12 Missile Crisis, a Big 12 athletic director told Orangebloods.com that if the league survived, there might be enough votes to kick out Missouri.

Most of that acrimony has been directed at Missouri governor Jay Nixon, who publicly expressed a year ago Missouri would be a good fit for the Big Ten, starting all the instability in the Big 12 that led to two schools leaving and nearly the breakup of the conference.

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds tried to diffuse the situation with Mizzou last Tuesday by saying Big 12 schools beat each other up on game days all year long, only to make up afterward. He said he didn't expect anything different in this situation. Time will tell.

2) Texas Tech is mad that Texas A&M is getting more money. These two have had quite the rivalry lately in football with Tech getting the better of it lately, although the Aggies pulled the upset in Lubbock last year.

3) Kansas and Kansas State. The Orangebloods.com report last Wednesday that the Pac-10 tried to sub out Oklahoma State for Kansas late in the process has made K-State a touch nervous that KU might have been trying to make a move without Kansas' other big state school.

This one should probably heal quickly because nothing ever came of it (the other Big 12 schools targeted by the Pac-10 didn't feel comfortable with it). But if there's one thing learned from this Big 12 Missile Crisis it's that desperation breeds unexpected activity.

4) Texas and everyone else. The Longhorns are perceived nationally as the puppet master of the Big 12. After all, it was Texas that had deemed initially if Nebraska came out of the Big 12, that the league would be dead and UT would be on its way to the Pac-10.

Some still think Texas orchestrated everything to get exactly what it got out of all this - more money and its own TV network. But I've yet to be convinced that this played out the way Texas wanted or expected.

Ultimately, Texas was brought back to the Big 12 by Texas A&M's commitment to the SEC; legislative pressure being marshaled to question realignment; and some questions about the Pac-10's offer late in the process (like how long it would take to scale to $20 mil per school in TV revenue and the Pac-10's late fascination with Kansas).

Just a quick recap of the Pac-10's moves late in the process, according to sources:

1) The Pac-10 was prepared to replace Texas A&M with Utah and wanted to replace Oklahoma State with Kansas. It would have been a way for the Pac-10 to add TV markets in the 11th hour.

2) There was also a question about how long the Pac-10 Network would take to scale to its guarantee of $20 million per school with 16 schools.

Some in the Big 12 felt it would be closer to $14 million the first year (2012), then $17 million the second year (2013), then $20 million the third year (2014) as opposed to $20 million in year one.

And some wonder what the Pac-10's new model, with Colorado and Utah as the 11th and 12th members of the league, will mean for the Pac-10's conference network.

But today is a day for the Big 12 to get together and begin the healing process. We'll see how that plays out.

[The Whale]

1) Missouri and the rest of the league. At one point during the 12-day Big 12 Missile Crisis, a Big 12 athletic director told Orangebloods.com that if the league survived, there might be enough votes to kick out Missouri.

Probably not enough votes now, but it would be hilarious if this happened after the Big 10 shot them down.

[scottwildcat]

not much new in that updates from orangebloods

[chum1]

I wonder how many classy NU fans think that NU should go ahead and pay the penalty because it's the right thing to do.  And is it more or less than the number of KSU fans who think we should go ahead and pay Prince because it's the right thing to do?

[sys]

I wonder how many classy NU fans think that NU should go ahead and pay the penalty because it's the right thing to do.  And is it more or less than the number of KSU fans who think we should go ahead and pay Prince because it's the right thing to do?

i find the argument over what nu & cu owe, if anything, v. interesting.  someone should start a thread on about it on the bball board.

[pc5k]

1) Missouri and the rest of the league. At one point during the 12-day Big 12 Missile Crisis, a Big 12 athletic director told Orangebloods.com that if the league survived, there might be enough votes to kick out Missouri.

Probably not enough votes now, but it would be hilarious if this happened after the Big 10 shot them down.

They need to vote mizzou out and add missouri state- would be the ultimate kitn

[jtksu]

I wonder how many classy NU fans think that NU should go ahead and pay the penalty because it's the right thing to do.  And is it more or less than the number of KSU fans who think we should go ahead and pay Prince because it's the right thing to do?

I say:  eff Nebraska, eff CU, and eff Prince.  Who's next?

[treysolid]

I wonder how many classy NU fans think that NU should go ahead and pay the penalty because it's the right thing to do.  And is it more or less than the number of KSU fans who think we should go ahead and pay Prince because it's the right thing to do?

I say:  shazbot! Nebraska, shazbot! CU, and shazbot! Prince.  Who's next?

next to contribute to this red giant of a thread?  no thanks.

[Trim]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

[mcmwcat]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

[jtksu]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

He referred to the RRS as the Cotton Bowl?  And what was the deal with the yearly cross-divisional match-ups?  Bedlam, but no RRS?  WTF?  Don't see OU or UT agreeing to stop playing their yearly rivalry game.  Seems like playing 9 games would still be the best way to go, while renewing the CCG.

[Trim]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

He referred to the RRS as the Cotton Bowl?  And what was the deal with the yearly cross-divisional match-ups?  Bedlam, but no RRS?  WTF?  Don't see OU or UT agreeing to stop playing their yearly rivalry game.  Seems like playing 9 games would still be the best way to go, while renewing the CCG.

Uh, OU and UT would be together in OB's South Division playing each other annually. 

[SleepFighter]

Tech!    

[JD Thundercat]

(Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman has indicated NU will fight paying that money back by arguing NU has not damaged the Big 12 by leaving but has instead improved life for the remaining members financially.)

Basically UN admitting they suck balls

[bakerman]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

He referred to the RRS as the Cotton Bowl?  And what was the deal with the yearly cross-divisional match-ups?  Bedlam, but no RRS?  WTF?  Don't see OU or UT agreeing to stop playing their yearly rivalry game.  Seems like playing 9 games would still be the best way to go, while renewing the CCG.

RRS is played in the Cotton Bowl 

[jtksu]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

He referred to the RRS as the Cotton Bowl?  And what was the deal with the yearly cross-divisional match-ups?  Bedlam, but no RRS?  WTF?  Don't see OU or UT agreeing to stop playing their yearly rivalry game.  Seems like playing 9 games would still be the best way to go, while renewing the CCG.

RRS is played in the Cotton Bowl 

I wouldn't refer to the winner of Farmageddon as "The Arrowhead Winner."  Especially if there was a bowl game called "The Arrowhead Bowl."

[bakerman]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

He referred to the RRS as the Cotton Bowl?  And what was the deal with the yearly cross-divisional match-ups?  Bedlam, but no RRS?  WTF?  Don't see OU or UT agreeing to stop playing their yearly rivalry game.  Seems like playing 9 games would still be the best way to go, while renewing the CCG.

RRS is played in the Cotton Bowl 

I wouldn't refer to the winner of Farmageddon as "The Arrowhead Winner."  Especially if there was a bowl game called "The Arrowhead Bowl."

I don't see why not, sounds like an awesome idea to me

[jtksu]

http://www.newsok.com/kansas-states-bill-snyder-prefers-five-team-divisions-big-12-title-game/article/3469989

jfc, ballzofold.

He referred to the RRS as the Cotton Bowl?  And what was the deal with the yearly cross-divisional match-ups?  Bedlam, but no RRS?  WTF?  Don't see OU or UT agreeing to stop playing their yearly rivalry game.  Seems like playing 9 games would still be the best way to go, while renewing the CCG.

Uh, OU and UT would be together in OB's South Division playing each other annually. 

Yeah, I misread that.  Thought OU would be in the north, not OSU.  My bad guys, my bad.  :pattingchestwhileacknowledginghismistake:

[scottwildcat]

:pattingchestwhileacknowledginghismistake:

i like^^^