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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #650 on: May 14, 2010, 08:20:05 AM »
It doesn't look like Okie State is going anywhere, unless they want to piss off their biggest donor.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5184339

OSU announcing they aren't going anywhere is like us announcing we aren't going anywhere. 

Hmmm....I thought their endowment made them one of the more financially lucrative programs in the conference, no?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #651 on: May 14, 2010, 08:28:17 AM »
It doesn't look like Okie State is going anywhere, unless they want to piss off their biggest donor.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5184339

OSU announcing they aren't going anywhere is like us announcing we aren't going anywhere. 

Hmmm....I thought their endowment made them one of the more financially lucrative programs in the conference, no?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #652 on: May 14, 2010, 08:29:22 AM »
OSU doesn't have a particularly large permenant endowment . . . what they do have is guys like Pickens who can throw around a bunch of money for capital projects.

They did run into a snag on their mega grandiose plans when T. Boones Oil Fund tanked.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #653 on: May 14, 2010, 08:35:43 AM »

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #654 on: May 14, 2010, 08:43:02 AM »
This is much bigger than anything OSU says or does

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/05/13/big12.expansion.ap/index.html

I agree with that, but we were comparing OSU to KSU.   


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #655 on: May 14, 2010, 08:45:03 AM »
This is much bigger than anything OSU says or does

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/05/13/big12.expansion.ap/index.html

I agree with that, but we were comparing OSU to KSU.   



Yeah, that was an overstatement/exageration on my part. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #656 on: May 14, 2010, 11:09:04 AM »
This is much bigger than anything OSU says or does

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/05/13/big12.expansion.ap/index.html

I agree with that, but we were comparing OSU to KSU.   



Yeah, that was an overstatement/exageration on my part. 

Damn right it was.   :comehere:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #657 on: May 14, 2010, 12:20:59 PM »
This is much bigger than anything OSU says or does

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/05/13/big12.expansion.ap/index.html

I agree with that, but we were comparing OSU to KSU.   



Yeah, that was an overstatement/exageration on my part. 

Damn right it was.   :comehere:
If you think our legislators will act to keep ku and K-State in the same conference, they are tame compared to Oklahoma's legislature acting to keep the Okie schools together.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #658 on: May 16, 2010, 11:14:43 PM »
Mizzou is officially in negotiations with the Big 10

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/21822079?tag=pageRow;pageContainer


Now, they haven't announced it "officially," but legally they clearly are.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #659 on: May 17, 2010, 09:39:49 AM »
Mizzou is officially in negotiations with the Big 10

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/21822079?tag=pageRow;pageContainer


Now, they haven't announced it "officially," but legally they clearly are.

Can we do this only with regards to the Pac-10 / Mountain West / Missouri Valley?

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Interesting article on Big 10 expansion
« Reply #660 on: May 17, 2010, 03:13:14 PM »
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2010/05/to_be_big_or_not_to_be_big_ten.html


Charlie Niebergall / Associated Press

While the impact of any Big Ten expansion on the conference's football product dominates the conversation by fans, the quality of the available basketball programs -- such as the national power Kansas Jayhawks -- could be a determining factor in who is brought into the Big Ten tent.

THE BASKETBALL INFLUENCE
One perhaps underplayed factor in considering expansion candidates are the men's basketball programs. The Big Ten Network shows about 35 to 40 football games each year, compared to about 105 men's basketball games.

Live programming is the lifeblood of any network, and with most of the best football matchups taken by ABC and ESPN, the most high-profile BTN games of the year are often basketball games.

While Nebraska, Missouri, Rutgers and Notre Dame were the schools mentioned by one recent radio report as the main targets of the Big Ten, don't dismiss Connecticut, Syracuse and Kansas, with their basketball success playing a part.

“TV networks buy content, and sometimes they overpay for content,” CNBC sports business reporter Darren Rovell said. “The Big Ten Network has some nice programming, but let's not kid ourselves. The games are the candy, and basketball is a great content provider.”

Rovell agrees that basketball hasn't been mentioned enough in the expansion discussion. In particular, it could matter in the chase for the New York market, seemingly an obvious goal in Big Ten expansion.

While Rutgers is a larger school, with 26,000 students compared to 16,000 for Connecticut and 12,600 for Syracuse, the Connecticut and Syracuse basketball teams might be the best bets to attract viewers and subscribers in the New York area.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #661 on: May 17, 2010, 03:20:24 PM »
Man, BMW wants KU to be MU pretty badly  :surprised:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #662 on: May 17, 2010, 03:24:30 PM »
Man, BMW wants KU to be MU pretty badly  :surprised:




wut




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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #663 on: May 17, 2010, 03:28:16 PM »
Man, BMW wants KU to be MU pretty badly  :surprised:
wut
 :flush:


Seems like you really want KU to get a Big 10 invite like MU's getting.  Sorry if I didn't interprut your multiple posting and highlighting of an obsure Cleveland newspaper article correctly. :dunno:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #664 on: May 17, 2010, 03:29:40 PM »
BMW is working very hard to make ku relevant in any conference realignment discussion, and to demonstrate the K-State is not.

What he is missing is that the athletic conference broadcasting revenues are oriented towards football, and while K-State sucks, ku REALLY sucks when it comes to that sport.  Conferences garner a higher percentage of football broadcast revenues, and in basketball the big event is March Madness, where the NCAA puts it's lips on the front teat.

I have to laugh at the desperation.  "Look at me!  I'm relevant!"  It sure must suck to not be Mizzou or Nebraska.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #665 on: May 17, 2010, 03:30:54 PM »
One article.  One. 

Same as the whole pre-season ranking issue.

One article.


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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #666 on: May 17, 2010, 03:40:57 PM »
Man, BMW wants KU to be MU pretty badly  :surprised:
wut
 :flush:


Seems like you really want KU to get a Big 10 invite like MU's getting.  Sorry if I didn't interprut your multiple posting and highlighting of an obsure Cleveland newspaper article correctly. :dunno:




Seems like you're getting awfully defensive over nothing.  All I did was post an article that put a different perspective on the Big 10 expansion.  Sorry if it gets your panties in a wad that KU is a national power, while K-State is not. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #667 on: May 17, 2010, 03:42:26 PM »
Man, BMW wants KU to be MU pretty badly  :surprised:
wut
 :flush:


Seems like you really want KU to get a Big 10 invite like MU's getting.  Sorry if I didn't interprut your multiple posting and highlighting of an obsure Cleveland newspaper article correctly. :dunno:




Seems like you're getting awfully defensive over nothing.  All I did was post an article that put a different perspective on the Big 10 expansion.  Sorry if it gets your panties in a wad that KU is a national power, while K-State is not. 

  :lol:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #668 on: May 17, 2010, 03:48:41 PM »
You guys do have a hell of a soil judging squad, I'll give ya that.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #669 on: May 17, 2010, 03:59:37 PM »
Man, BMW wants KU to be MU pretty badly  :surprised:
wut
 :flush:


Seems like you really want KU to get a Big 10 invite like MU's getting.  Sorry if I didn't interprut your multiple posting and highlighting of an obsure Cleveland newspaper article correctly. :dunno:




Seems like you're getting awfully defensive over nothing.  All I did was post an article that put a different perspective on the Big 10 expansion.  Sorry if it gets your panties in a wad that KU is a national power, while K-State is not. 

Talk about defensive mechanism.

Yikes.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #670 on: May 17, 2010, 04:00:24 PM »
wanting to compare  j-schools and wanting to join the big 10 equals normal day at the office for bmwJhawk.  has nothing to do with Mizzou.  haters ... you're all in denial.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #671 on: May 17, 2010, 04:01:29 PM »
What's going to happen when it's just Notre Dame??



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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #672 on: May 17, 2010, 04:10:09 PM »
wanting to compare  j-schools and wanting to join the big 10 equals normal day at the office for bmwJhawk.  has nothing to do with Mizzou.  haters ... you're all in denial.

In fairness, it isn't just Ben.  There are several ku fans that work in the kitchen of my favorite tapas place that constantly pretend they are in the same spot as mu.  adorable.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #673 on: May 17, 2010, 04:28:07 PM »
wanting to compare  j-schools and wanting to join the big 10 equals normal day at the office for bmwJhawk.  has nothing to do with Mizzou.  haters ... you're all in denial.

In fairness, it isn't just Ben.  There are several ku fans that work in the kitchen of my favorite tapas place that constantly pretend they are in the same spot as mu.  adorable.

It isn't just the tapas cooks either, I hear all about this crap from the lady who cuts my hair and from the receptionist at my gym.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #674 on: May 17, 2010, 08:41:44 PM »
The non college attending big, big, big ku "fan" end of the family is extremely  :curse: about the mu developments.   Hell hath no fury like a ku bandwagoner scorned.