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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22800 on: November 26, 2012, 02:00:56 PM »
I don't think I like round robin.  The whole "one true champion" thing is bullshit.

I like it because we play 4 Texas teams, including UT, every season. This should help greatly when we get a new coach and he actually has to recruit players that other FBS schools want.

I don't think it matters what we do when we are going head to head with UT for recruits.

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« Reply #22801 on: November 26, 2012, 02:02:20 PM »
I don't think I like round robin.  The whole "one true champion" thing is bullshit.

I like it because we play 4 Texas teams, including UT, every season. This should help greatly when we get a new coach and he actually has to recruit players that other FBS schools want.

I don't think it matters what we do when we are going head to head with UT for recruits.

It matters when we are going after recruits that UT passed on. They want to beat UT.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22802 on: November 26, 2012, 02:10:48 PM »
I don't think I like round robin.  The whole "one true champion" thing is bullshit.

I like it because we play 4 Texas teams, including UT, every season. This should help greatly when we get a new coach and he actually has to recruit players that other FBS schools want.

I don't think it matters what we do when we are going head to head with UT for recruits.

It matters when we are going after recruits that UT passed on. They want to beat UT.

And they can do so as a player for TCU/Okie St/Tech as well.  It's maybe a little pre-mature to swear off round robin since we've only known it with 2 of our best teams ever, but winning the north in the future looks pretty rough ridin' easy.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22803 on: November 26, 2012, 02:17:14 PM »
Playing in front of Texas recruits and letting their families know they will have at least 2 games in Texas every year is a boost that other conferences don't have.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22804 on: November 26, 2012, 02:18:36 PM »
I don't think I like round robin.  The whole "one true champion" thing is bullshit.

I like it because we play 4 Texas teams, including UT, every season. This should help greatly when we get a new coach and he actually has to recruit players that other FBS schools want.

I don't think it matters what we do when we are going head to head with UT for recruits.

It matters when we are going after recruits that UT passed on. They want to beat UT.

And they can do so as a player for TCU/Okie St/Tech as well.  It's maybe a little pre-mature to swear off round robin since we've only known it with 2 of our best teams ever, but winning the north in the future looks pretty rough ridin' easy.

Yes, they can do that at those schools, which gives them a huge advantage over us if we go back to a north/south alignment. The round robin format levels the playing field.

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« Reply #22805 on: November 26, 2012, 02:18:43 PM »
Playing in front of Texas recruits and letting their families know they will have at least 2 games in Texas every year is a boost that other conferences don't have.

Winning > Recruiting

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« Reply #22806 on: November 26, 2012, 02:27:44 PM »
We seem to be winning just fine while playing the best teams in the conference. It is very possible to lose a game in the round robin Big 12 and make a 4 team playoff. If the team isn't good enough to make the playoff, then it doesn't really matter anyway. We are probably talking about the difference between a 7-8 win team and an 8-9 win team.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22807 on: November 26, 2012, 02:28:15 PM »
Playing in front of Texas recruits and letting their families know they will have at least 2 games in Texas every year is a boost that other conferences don't have.

Winning > Recruiting

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22808 on: November 26, 2012, 02:33:45 PM »
Playing in front of Texas recruits and letting their families know they will have at least 2 games in Texas every year is a boost that other conferences don't have.

Winning > Recruiting

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« Reply #22809 on: November 26, 2012, 02:47:31 PM »
We seem to be winning just fine while playing the best teams in the conference.

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It is very possible to lose a game in the round robin Big 12 and make a 4 team playoff.

It's possible but wouldn't happen this year. The Big 12 is pretty much guaranteed to NEVER have more than one team with a round-robin.

If the team isn't good enough to make the playoff, then it doesn't really matter anyway. We are probably talking about the difference between a 7-8 win team and an 8-9 win team.

I'll agree with that if we don't make money from the rest of our conference doing well and making the playoff.

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« Reply #22810 on: November 26, 2012, 02:49:00 PM »
If we had won out and OU hadn't lost to ND I think there would be a very good chance of both of us being in the playoffs.

That's a shitload of hypotheticals, but still.

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« Reply #22811 on: November 26, 2012, 02:49:13 PM »
Louisville, Uconn and Cincy to ACC tomorrow?

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« Reply #22812 on: November 26, 2012, 02:52:41 PM »
Louisville, Uconn and Cincy to ACC tomorrow?

That might drive FSU and the Clumps to the B12.

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« Reply #22813 on: November 26, 2012, 02:57:15 PM »
In the present format, it seems like we're going to have co-champs more often than not. 

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« Reply #22814 on: November 26, 2012, 03:00:06 PM »
Louisville, Uconn and Cincy to ACC tomorrow?

That might drive FSU and the Clumps to the B12.

If they are going after 3 seems to me that 2 are already gone.
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« Reply #22815 on: November 26, 2012, 03:01:22 PM »
Omg the ACC just bailed bowlsby out big time
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22816 on: November 26, 2012, 03:02:29 PM »
In the present format, it seems like we're going to have co-champs more often than not.

Why not just get rid of the co-champs label when it's a "tie" between two teams that played each other? I understand if it's a 3 way tie ala 2008 between Tech/Texas/OU where they all beat each other, but seems really stupid for 2 teams.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22817 on: November 26, 2012, 03:04:56 PM »
In the present format, it seems like we're going to have co-champs more often than not.

Why not just get rid of the co-champs label when it's a "tie" between two teams that played each other? I understand if it's a 3 way tie ala 2008 between Tech/Texas/OU where they all beat each other, but seems really stupid for 2 teams.

Especially if you lost the head-to-head at home.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22818 on: November 26, 2012, 03:10:03 PM »
If we had won out and OU hadn't lost to ND I think there would be a very good chance of both of us being in the playoffs.

That's a shitload of hypotheticals, but still.

I agree with you.

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« Reply #22819 on: November 26, 2012, 03:28:53 PM »
In the present format, it seems like we're going to have co-champs more often than not.

Probably won't be many more seasons with the present format.

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« Reply #22820 on: November 26, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »
Louisville, Uconn and Cincy to ACC tomorrow?

Just curious, where are you seeing this?
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« Reply #22821 on: November 26, 2012, 03:50:48 PM »
Louisville, Uconn and Cincy to ACC tomorrow?

Just curious, where are you seeing this?

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22822 on: November 26, 2012, 03:59:39 PM »
If we had won out and OU hadn't lost to ND I think there would be a very good chance of both of us being in the playoffs.

That's a shitload of hypotheticals, but still.

Two years of round robin and we would have gotten one total team in.

The SEC would have gotten four.

Real world vs hypotheticals.

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« Reply #22823 on: November 26, 2012, 04:00:50 PM »
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #22824 on: November 26, 2012, 04:01:47 PM »

It is very possible to lose a game in the round robin Big 12 and make a 4 team playoff.

It's possible but wouldn't happen this year. The Big 12 is pretty much guaranteed to NEVER have more than one team with a round-robin.


I think we probably would make the playoffs this year, based upon the future committee putting a heavy weight on strength of schedule and polls not being a factor in selecting the playoff teams. It's hard to say until we actually see the new system in action, though.