Author Topic: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can.... (Read 4881148 times)

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #22225 on:** October 12, 2012, 04:47:41 PM »

If the Big 10 actually adds those schools, they should make the divisions as follows:

The Decent Division:
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Iowa
Penn State
Georgia Tech

The Dead Weight:
North Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
Northwestern
Indiana
Illinois
Purdue
Minnesota

Each division plays its 7 game round robin, plus two crossover games, which do not count toward conference standings. The winner of the Decent Division round robin is conference champ. The two teams with the lowest records in the Decent Division get relegated to the Dead Weight Division, and the two teams with the best records in the Dead Weight get promoted to the Decent. That is pretty much the only way that any good Big 10 team could ever put together a schedule that would be BCS quality.

ben ji · « **Reply #22226 on:** October 12, 2012, 04:50:30 PM »

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This conversation is completely over his head, he doesn't know VT relatively recently moved into the ACC from the Big East.

Mr Bread · « **Reply #22227 on:** October 12, 2012, 07:43:52 PM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on October 12, 2012, 04:45:56 PM

Quote from: Mr Bread on October 12, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: ben ji on October 12, 2012, 03:45:53 PM
Big 10 POV- New Big markets to network, expands south into area with a growing population.

ACC Schools POV- Alot more money when the BIG renegotiates in 2016, if this happens the ACC will cease to exist so no buyout. Also UVA/UNC would enjoy being part of the Big10 academia.

It's superficially logical, but it's very strained. They aren't all that south really, just kind of on the edge there. The new TV markets they would be opening up aren't particularly impressive. The biggest
catch is that none of them are good at football and that's the impetus behind all of this change. Add four east coast northern south football mopes?

eta: Nobody on the east coast gives a crap about Big Ten football, nor will they ever. UNC, UVA, MD, etc. won't change that.

Missouri and Colorado are terrible at football.

I guess I should be more specific. The Big Ten impetus. Case in point: Missouri.

bubbles4ksu · « **Reply #22228 on:** October 18, 2012, 06:19:49 PM »

Look at what you did Saul. You and your nerd bullshit ruined Pete's 1000 page celebration.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #22229 on:** October 18, 2012, 07:08:22 PM »

And to think, I had to rattle off like 35 posts in a row because Saul wouldn't even let us get to 200.

MIND GAMES

MadCat · « **Reply #22230 on:** October 18, 2012, 08:35:44 PM »

HO
LEE
crap

Katpappy · « **Reply #22231 on:** October 18, 2012, 08:47:24 PM »

Quote from: MadCat on October 18, 2012, 08:35:44 PM

HO
LEE
crap

This has got to be good.

ednksu · « **Reply #22232 on:** October 18, 2012, 08:49:41 PM »

what just happened?
Is this real life?

SdK · « **Reply #22233 on:** October 18, 2012, 08:56:41 PM »

Yeah, I thought it was a joke when someone mentioned the 15 post per page thing, turns out they were right.

What gives? Why did we change it? High traffic or what?

ednksu · « **Reply #22234 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Sundance_Kid on October 18, 2012, 08:56:41 PM

Yeah, I thought it was a joke when someone mentioned the 15 post per page thing, turns out they were right.

What gives? Why did we change it? High traffic or what?

I believe it allows the server to access less information when people page it.

MadCat · « **Reply #22235 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:12:31 PM »

It's also a present for the fools that are printing off every page of this blog.

SdK · « **Reply #22236 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:30:50 PM »

Quote from: MadCat on October 18, 2012, 09:12:31 PM

It's also a present for the fools that are printing off every page of this blog.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #22237 on:** October 24, 2012, 01:14:10 PM »

Quote from: Panjandrum on September 27, 2012, 10:22:14 AM

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2012/9/26/3414104/bcs-college-football-postseason-bowls-pac-12-big-12

The Pac-12 will probably get this game or something, but it's another one to add to the pile.

I'll admit that I'm intrigued.

This new bowl/7th bowl idea is basically dead now.

Winters · « **Reply #22238 on:** October 29, 2012, 05:11:47 PM »

http://store.cstv.com/store_contents.cfm?store_id=51&dept_id=-2&product_id=228918&partner_ID=19863 Luke'd?

SdK · « **Reply #22239 on:** October 29, 2012, 05:13:14 PM »

Holy crap.

SdK · « **Reply #22240 on:** October 29, 2012, 05:14:47 PM »

Also the shirt doesn't even have the score on it. Just Missouri XX Kentucky XX.

Wonder how long they knew that was going to be their first SEC victory.

TBL · « **Reply #22241 on:** October 29, 2012, 07:21:02 PM »

At least some countries in Africa are going to have new shirts to wear for Xmas.

bws · « **Reply #22242 on:** November 08, 2012, 05:32:44 PM »

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/20890401/espn-puts-an-early-value-on-a-playoff-close-to-500-per-year

Half a bil for the playoff. 150 million more than originally anticipated. That works out to 4 mil to each of the division one schools if distributed equally (which we know it won't be equal, bcs schools will get higher pct).

Anyway I think that pushes us over 30 million per year. Anyone in the know have a breakdown/estimate? It's really fun being rich and competing for national titles

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #22243 on:** November 08, 2012, 05:43:29 PM »

Here is the only thing I don't get about this "close to $500MM for the playoff". It makes it sound like ESPN wants to pay close to $500MM for all the 3 games. However, we already know that 1/2 of the 24 semifinal games will be played in the Orange, Rose, and Sugar bowls. ESPN already owns the TV rights to those 3 bowls. How does that work? If in a year the semifinals are the Sugar ($80MM) and Orange ($50MM), then ESPN pays an additional $370MM for the NC game? Every 3 years when the Sugar is a semi, does the Big12 and Sugar just not get their $80MM? Is the $500MM for all 7 games, ESPN's $210MM worth of deals for 3 bowl games already roll into that $500MM, and they'll just have to decide how to pay the conferences whose bowl games are taken for a semifinal?

MadCat · « **Reply #22244 on:** November 08, 2012, 10:24:24 PM »

Why, long time no see, cigars thread.

Pete · « **Reply #22245 on:** November 08, 2012, 10:50:41 PM »

Quote from: bws on November 08, 2012, 05:32:44 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/20890401/espn-puts-an-early-value-on-a-playoff-close-to-500-per-year

Half a bil for the playoff. 150 million more than originally anticipated. That works out to 4 mil to each of the division one schools if distributed equally (which we know it won't be equal, bcs schools will get higher pct).

Anyway I think that pushes us over 30 million per year. Anyone in the know have a breakdown/estimate? It's really fun being rich and competing for national titles

What a rough ridin' failure this Bowlsby clown is...

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The price point, though, is less of an issue at this point than the structure. CBSSports.com reported this week that the Big 12 and Pac-12 each want access to another bowl slot. Both conferences currently have only one bowl in the playoff structure. The SEC and Big Ten each have two.

As a way to get that access, Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby and Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott are advocating establishing another contract bowl with their conferences participating against a team from the so-called Group of Five (MAC, Sun Belt, Big East, Mountain West, Conference USA).

However, multiple sources have said the market won't support the addition of a seventh playoff bowl. Scott and Bowlsby are reportedly also in support of their game being played within the current six-bowl structure. Big East commissioner Mike Aresco says he still believes a seventh bowl is possible.

Jesus, what are we paying this clown?

SdK · « **Reply #22246 on:** November 09, 2012, 07:40:15 AM »

Fiesta Sugar and Cotton don't count? or maybe I've misunderstood.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #22247 on:** November 09, 2012, 10:05:13 AM »

Quote from: Pete on November 08, 2012, 10:50:41 PM

Jesus, what are we paying this clown?

I think what it boils down to is the fact that the ACC got control of the Orange Bowl, had an empty chair, and the three established power-brokers (Swarbick, Slive, and Delany) smelled blood in the water and pounced on that thing.

And let's be honest, here. The SEC is getting into that game at least 60-70% of the time if the criteria is 'highest ranked team'.

TV has apparently shot down the idea of the Big 12/Pac 12 vs. Mid-Major Bowl game. But the Fiesta Bowl sits wide open.

I guess I wouldn't be surprised if, to promote additional equity and keep everyone happy, the Fiesta Bowl did something like the highest ranked team between ND/Big 12/Pac 12 as an inverse to the Orange Bowl and just let the other spot be the final at-large bid that some mid-major or other team ultimately squeak into. That way, TV is still tantalized by a possible ND matchup, the Big 12 and Pac 12 get the same deal as the SEC and Big Ten, and the open at-large spot can be dangled like a carrot to keep the mid-major guys happy.

Anyway, that's what I'd do.

So, it would look like this...

Two elite bowls:

Rose - Pac 12 #1 vs. Big Ten #1
Sugar - Big 12 #1 vs. SEC #1

Two hybrid bowls:

Orange - ACC #1 vs. ND/SEC/Big Ten
Fiesta - ND/Big 12/Pac 12 vs. At-large

Two bowls added for playoff:
Cotton
Chick-fil-a (Peach)

Then you just rotate tie ins from the other bowls to the Cotton and Chick-fil-a whenever.

bws · « **Reply #22248 on:** November 17, 2012, 04:18:26 PM »

Interesting realignment news this afternoon

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8644587/maryland-terrapins-rutgers-scarlet-knights-talks-join-big-ten-conference-sources-say

MakeItRain · « **Reply #22249 on:** November 17, 2012, 04:53:26 PM »

Quote from: bws on November 17, 2012, 04:18:26 PM

Interesting realignment news this afternoon

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8644587/maryland-terrapins-rutgers-scarlet-knights-talks-join-big-ten-conference-sources-say

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