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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21875 on: September 12, 2012, 02:04:34 PM »
In the grand history of college football, only these schools can say they're "old money", everybody else that you think that should be on the list are more "Johnny Come Latelys" than you think:

Alabama
Texas
Notre Dame
USC
OU
Michigan
Ohio State

There's lots of schools on the fringes of that list, but many had early years that weren't that glorious, or protracted periods of not doing much of anything.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21876 on: September 12, 2012, 02:06:16 PM »
Only problem is TVs, IMO.  If they don't grow the TV market, we have little incentive to add them.  The only other argument would be stability.  And to that end, does having 12 members make this conference any more stable?

The more content there is on the platform, the more likely it is that stuff will fall to Tier 3 that schools like Texas and Oklahoma can monetize and be very, very happy.

What will most likely happen, if we add twelve schools, is that we'd get a little bump from Fox and ESPN to keep us level in Tier 1 and Tier 2, and additional inventory (to the tune of about 18-22 games a year or so) on the TV platform for football.  That means some of that is going to fall to Tier 3 because Fox and ESPN simply won't have the capacity to show them.  That means more games on LHN, more games on Sooner Sports TV, more games on K-StateHD.tv, Cyclone Vision, JTV, etc.

As I said before, it's the money in Tier 3 that makes the Big 12 cushy for Texas and OU, and it's what gives them more money, annually, than any other conference by at least a few million dollars.  Hell, it's what gives us what will be a $4-5 million advantage over Florida State on an annual basis.

Adding two more teams means Fox and ESPN could put Louisville on Saturdays and push KU onto the LHN, Sooner Sports TV, etc.  So, they'll get better games, and the big money schools with distribution mechanisms can start pulling the lever on the cash registers because it's another game or two a year they can put on their platform.

Remember, a new provision of the Big 12 TV contract is that whatever Fox and ESPN pass on falls into our hands.  You think Texas and ESPN would want to put four games on LHN every year?  Of course they would.  Do you think that's more likely if we add Louisville and Cincinnati or Rutgers?  Uh, yeah.

Now, will Texas ultimately want that?  I don't know.  I don't know what they ultimately want.  But ESPN may have incentive to bring Big East schools they value into our conference (so NBC doesn't get them) and pay them more money because they'll get some of that back on the LHN and other schools they may ultimately partner with on regional distribution deals.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21877 on: September 12, 2012, 02:08:28 PM »
Now that it's over, I really, really miss the old Big 12.  eff those four schools that left harder than ever.   :frown:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21878 on: September 12, 2012, 02:08:56 PM »
Let me snicker right rough ridin' here about TCU's football program:  SNICKER!

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21879 on: September 12, 2012, 02:11:55 PM »
Now that it's over, I really, really miss the old Big 12.  eff those four schools that left harder than ever.   :frown:

I prefer the new 10 team Big 12, but I will get pissed if we go back to 12 by adding 2 Big East schools. It's either FSU or stay at 10.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21880 on: September 12, 2012, 02:12:32 PM »
lol, this will never be over.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21882 on: September 12, 2012, 02:22:58 PM »
lol, this will never be over.
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We'll be pushing 1,000 in no time, if this keeps up.  :excited:
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« Reply #21883 on: September 12, 2012, 02:24:16 PM »
It was exciting to talk about realignment when HCBS was still calming the waters and trying to regain our elite status.  Now, we should focus on the games and forget this currently meaningless distraction.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21884 on: September 12, 2012, 02:28:56 PM »
It was exciting to talk about realignment when HCBS was still calming the waters and trying to regain our elite status.  Now, we should focus on the games and forget this currently meaningless distraction.
Hey fun is fun.  If you're not havin any, take your ball and go home.  :facepalm:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21885 on: September 12, 2012, 02:31:28 PM »

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21886 on: September 12, 2012, 02:35:08 PM »
It was exciting to talk about realignment when HCBS was still calming the waters and trying to regain our elite status.  Now, we should focus on the games and forget this currently meaningless distraction.
Hey fun is fun.  If you're not havin any, take your ball and go home.  :facepalm:
Will take said advice concerning this thread.  TY and keep your head up kid!
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21887 on: September 12, 2012, 02:54:27 PM »
It was exciting to talk about realignment when HCBS was still calming the waters and trying to regain our elite status.  Now, we should focus on the games and forget this currently meaningless distraction.
Hey fun is fun.  If you're not havin any, take your ball and go home.  :facepalm:
Will take said advice concerning this thread.  TY and keep your head up kid!
Well, ball game is over... what's that you say, there may be a new one before next season, tell me about it son.  :drink:
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21888 on: September 12, 2012, 03:12:44 PM »

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21889 on: September 12, 2012, 03:13:33 PM »
would take btw

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21891 on: September 12, 2012, 03:15:35 PM »
that's a pretty boss move by the rest of the ACC, too.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21893 on: September 12, 2012, 03:20:05 PM »
It's only a matter of time, now.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21894 on: September 12, 2012, 03:20:55 PM »
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21895 on: September 12, 2012, 03:22:35 PM »
Would love Maryland...and so would WVU. 
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21896 on: September 12, 2012, 03:23:11 PM »
Would love Maryland...and so would WVU.

yep, I never considered them before for some reason.  bringing back all the hoops coaches that fled the conference. 

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21897 on: September 12, 2012, 03:24:42 PM »
Maryland, would rough ridin' take.   :love:

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21898 on: September 12, 2012, 03:25:55 PM »
reagan, dulles...THE LIST GOES ON!

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #21899 on: September 12, 2012, 03:32:59 PM »
Hire McGruder as a recruiter and profit.  :love: