Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[Pete]

On FSU board, Mods are deleting any posts that suggest they will go to Big XII. 

Not on Warchant.  I am on the premium board, and they are answering my questions.

  Anything interesting?

Their main mod, who was originally HUGE in favor of going to the Big 12 is now pleased, and basically calling "The Dude" a dumbass.  Not surprising but confirms...

[deputy dawg]

Need analysis from Dax re: $17 million/school payout for ACC vs. $20 million/school payout for Big 12, and whether that offers enough financial incentive to bolt for the Big 12.  I'm not well enough versed in Tier I and Tier II rights to lead this discussion.

[steve dave]

till think we will get back to 12 with Louisville and another school just to add the CCG. ESPN and fox in turn will keep our money per school the same.

IMO having a CCG will become an important part of the new playoff system (unless you are ND)

How?

It has no bearing in the upcoming 4-team playoff.  None. Zip. Zero.

CCG money would be the only reason

[Pete]

Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
Notre Dame also could increase ACC's media rights from $17M per school to b/w $18M-$19M per school, sources told @espn

Little bit higher than Pan's guesstimate, but still within realm of reason.

[SkinnyBenny]

Goddammit. I still want FSU so hard.

[Pete]

till think we will get back to 12 with Louisville and another school just to add the CCG. ESPN and fox in turn will keep our money per school the same.

IMO having a CCG will become an important part of the new playoff system (unless you are ND)

How?

It has no bearing in the upcoming 4-team playoff.  None. Zip. Zero.

CCG money would be the only reason

Only a handful of the Big 12 schools would find that bump to be material, unfortunately.

["storm"nut]

till think we will get back to 12 with Louisville and another school just to add the CCG. ESPN and fox in turn will keep our money per school the same.

IMO having a CCG will become an important part of the new playoff system (unless you are ND)

How?

It has no bearing in the upcoming 4-team playoff.  None. Zip. Zero.

The Big 12 is the only conference without a CCG. It would not take much for a requirement be put into the new playoff system that only winners of CCG are eligible for the 4 team play off. Of course the mothership wants us to have a CCG for more money and force the Big 12's hand by making this a requirement. Of course just my opinion but there it is.

[chum1]

LOL at the anonymous B12 source's "d's in h's" confirmation.

[SkinnyBenny]

So this is the KITN after the Miami high.

And yes, eff Bowlsby so far. Neinas would've expanded this league like a motherfucking boss by now.

[Ira Hayes]

till think we will get back to 12 with Louisville and another school just to add the CCG. ESPN and fox in turn will keep our money per school the same.

IMO having a CCG will become an important part of the new playoff system (unless you are ND)

How?

It has no bearing in the upcoming 4-team playoff.  None. Zip. Zero.

CCG money would be the only reason

Only a handful of the Big 12 schools would find that bump to be material, unfortunately.

Could actually lose money.  The LHN will rake in large dollars if Texas gets in the playoff.

[TheHamburglar]

It would not take much for a requirement be put into the new playoff system that only winners of CCG are eligible for the 4 team play off.

It would take a lot for this requirment to be put into place.  The Big12 and SEC would fight this requirement to the death. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Lotta stupid coming out in this thread right now, but not entirely unexpected.

[catzacker]

Okay, so far, Bowlsby sucks ass.

yep.  as do the big 12 presidents.  the big 12 basically operates like a 3rd world country.

[steve dave]

Lotta stupid coming out in this thread right now, but not entirely unexpected.

louisville sucks dax, sorry

[Stevesie60]

So this is the KITN after the Miami high.

And yes, eff Bowlsby so far. Neinas would've expanded this league like a motherfucking boss by now.

I'd much rather have our KITNs in conference realignment than in our football season.

[sonofdaxjones]

Unless you boys were going to raise the academic rankings of multiple Big 12 Schools up a whole hell of a lot over night.   ND wasn't coming to the Big 12.

But my all means, continue to allow the stupid to flow.

[steve dave]

ND wasn't coming to the Big 12.

no crap, welcome to what everyone who's not a dumbass said hundreds of pages ago. 

[Pete]

Unless you boys were going to raise the academic rankings of multiple Big 12 Schools up a whole hell of a lot over night.   ND wasn't coming to the Big 12.

But my all means, continue to allow the stupid to flow.

This has nothing to do with anything.

My criticism of Bowlsby, and others on here as well, was not about GETTING ND....It was about getting FSU and X before ND shored up ACC.

["storm"nut]

Unless you boys were going to raise the academic rankings of multiple Big 12 Schools up a whole hell of a lot over night.   ND wasn't coming to the Big 12.

But my all means, continue to allow the stupid to flow.

This has nothing to do with anything.

My criticism of Bowlsby, and others on here as well, was not about GETTING ND....It was about getting FSU and X before ND shored up ACC.

I have to wonder if FSU really wanted to come to the Big 12 or was just forcing the ACC hand into fixing there mess?

[sonofdaxjones]

Unless you boys were going to raise the academic rankings of multiple Big 12 Schools up a whole hell of a lot over night.   ND wasn't coming to the Big 12.

But my all means, continue to allow the stupid to flow.

This has nothing to do with anything.

My criticism of Bowlsby, and others on here as well, was not about GETTING ND....It was about getting FSU and X before ND shored up ACC.

Oh so we're melting down about ND going to the ACC . . . but that has nothing to do with anything?   

The Big 12 10 didn't have their TV contract completed until last week.   You had a president at FSU who basically said not NO, but HELL NO to FSU going to the Big 12.   But they were going to get all that done in a few months?   Right, right.

Plus, I didn't read the article about the exit fees, certainly that had to be voted on by the member schools, did FSU vote for it?  Do we know?

[sonofdaxjones]

I forgot to add, nothing says "we're keeping our options open" like voting for a $50 million dollar exit fee.

So again, how did Clemson, FSU, VT, GT vote? 

[TheHamburglar]

The Big 12 10 didn't have their TV contract completed until last week.   

First off, I agree with you that ND was never coming.  However, saying we couldn't go get some ACC teams this summer because our TV deal wasn't done is false.  The TV deal was basically done back in April.  They waited this long to finalize it just so they could get the process down of selecting games between Fox, ESPN/ABC, LHN, FSN, and F/X.  It's not a coincidence that the TV contract got finalized within a week of them completing the first round of TV selections under the new agreement and Fox accidentally leaking their Tier 1 schedule for the whole year.  It appears all sides were on a mutual hold over the summer with the majority of the contract done just to see how the first go round under the new agreement worked and to make any tweeks as necessary to the selection process.

[chum1]

I forgot to add, nothing says "we're keeping our options open" like voting for a $50 million dollar exit fee.

So again, how did Clemson, FSU, VT, GT vote? 

Do you think we mumped up at some point in the past?  Remember when FSU and Clemson threw a big hissy fit when the ACC wanted to raise the exit fee from $20M to $34M?  Or is that discussion so stupid that it's off limits?

[Pete]

Let me be clear, I don't give a eff about Notre Dame, I just give a eff about what Notre Dame does to us.  I never thought we'd get them.  I DID think we could have gotten FSU.

Now we can't.....because of Notre Dame.

[Katpappy]

Guys, I don't think it's over yet.  Remember how jealous the schools that left the Big XII of Texas and their deals.  This ND thing may start a fire in the ACC.  Let's give it some time too brew.