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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #20725 on: June 21, 2012, 02:45:17 PM »
My God. We are going to get so railroaded.


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« Reply #20726 on: June 21, 2012, 02:48:15 PM »
there is very little difference between a 3 champs and 1 wildcard and top 4 imo.  we will end up with one of these two and I'll be happy with it. 

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« Reply #20727 on: June 21, 2012, 02:49:43 PM »
I just want what is best for Kansas State. And from what I have seen, the best system for Kansas State is a system that rewards a team for winning games over a system that rewards teams for being considered among the top 4 in the country by a panel of "experts."

The SEC disagrees with me.  So does stevedave.

I'm tired of getting mumped over.

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« Reply #20728 on: June 21, 2012, 02:50:35 PM »
the big 12 also disagrees with you

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« Reply #20729 on: June 21, 2012, 02:54:33 PM »
there is very little difference between a 3 champs and 1 wildcard and top 4 imo.  we will end up with one of these two and I'll be happy with it.

The 3+1 was thrown out a long time ago.  Top 4 SEC teams is what we're looking at.  4 best teams.  Selected by experts like Tony Barnhart, Gene Stallings, Clay Travis and Paul Finebaum.

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« Reply #20730 on: June 21, 2012, 02:55:13 PM »
lol

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« Reply #20731 on: June 21, 2012, 03:16:53 PM »
if there's ever a chance KSU could get screwed by this thing (doubtful) i will be a happy guy

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« Reply #20732 on: June 21, 2012, 03:18:57 PM »
meaning there's a remote chance KSU would ever be considered as a top 4 team in any given year.  so please save your whining about how this screws us.

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« Reply #20733 on: June 21, 2012, 03:26:13 PM »
I'll never for the life of me understand why some K-State fans constantly worry and fret about getting "screwed over".   This still isn't a real playoff system, so in the grand scheme of things, who cares if we get "effed over"?   

Just win the effing games and let the chips fall . . . until they have a real playoff system the eff'd over stories are almost as fun and legendary as the alternative.


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« Reply #20734 on: June 21, 2012, 03:33:52 PM »
I'll never for the life of me understand why some K-State fans constantly worry and fret about getting "screwed over".   This still isn't a real playoff system, so in the grand scheme of things, who cares if we get "effed over"?   

Just win the effing games and let the chips fall . . . until they have a real playoff system the eff'd over stories are almost as fun and legendary as the alternative.

Were you at the game in '98? It wasn't very fun. Neither is talking about it.

And of course we're going to be near the Top 4 nearly every year. We're Kansas State.  :ksugrad:
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« Reply #20735 on: June 21, 2012, 03:35:25 PM »
we have the opportunity to get mumped out of the very last BCS championship game after rough ridin' ourselves out of the first one.  circle of life opportunity you guys. 

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« Reply #20736 on: June 21, 2012, 03:38:06 PM »
I'll never for the life of me understand why some K-State fans constantly worry and fret about getting "screwed over".   This still isn't a real playoff system, so in the grand scheme of things, who cares if we get "effed over"?   

Just win the effing games and let the chips fall . . . until they have a real playoff system the eff'd over stories are almost as fun and legendary as the alternative.

Were you at the game in '98? It wasn't very fun. Neither is talking about it.

And of course we're going to be near the Top 4 nearly every year. We're Kansas State.  :ksugrad:

I sure was; don't choke, win the game . . . no worries.  It isn't hard.


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« Reply #20737 on: June 21, 2012, 03:46:47 PM »
we have the opportunity to get mumped out of the very last BCS championship game after rough ridin' ourselves out of the first one.  circle of life opportunity you guys.

Feels almost as good as being one of only 6 teams to have a Bowl Alliance trophy. Virginia Tech, Florida, Florida State, Nebraska, Penn State, K-State. Meh. NBD. Whatevs.
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« Reply #20738 on: June 21, 2012, 03:49:35 PM »
I'll never for the life of me understand why some K-State fans constantly worry and fret about getting "screwed over".   This still isn't a real playoff system, so in the grand scheme of things, who cares if we get "effed over"?   

Just win the effing games and let the chips fall . . . until they have a real playoff system the eff'd over stories are almost as fun and legendary as the alternative.

Were you at the game in '98? It wasn't very fun. Neither is talking about it.

And of course we're going to be near the Top 4 nearly every year. We're Kansas State.  :ksugrad:

I sure was; don't choke, win the game . . . no worries.  It isn't hard.

Alabama choked.  At home.  And it wasn't in double overtime with a bunch of turnovers. They just lost.

Why did they get another shot but '98 KSU got the Alamo Bowl?

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« Reply #20739 on: June 21, 2012, 03:59:01 PM »
I'll never for the life of me understand why some K-State fans constantly worry and fret about getting "screwed over".   This still isn't a real playoff system, so in the grand scheme of things, who cares if we get "effed over"?   

Just win the effing games and let the chips fall . . . until they have a real playoff system the eff'd over stories are almost as fun and legendary as the alternative.

Were you at the game in '98? It wasn't very fun. Neither is talking about it.

And of course we're going to be near the Top 4 nearly every year. We're Kansas State.  :ksugrad:

I sure was; don't choke, win the game . . . no worries.  It isn't hard.

Alabama choked.  At home.  And it wasn't in double overtime with a bunch of turnovers. They just lost.

Why did they get another shot but '98 KSU got the Alamo Bowl?

Well, for starters one was 1998, and one was 2011.   

Again, if K-State doesn't choke (and K-State choked) then we don't even have to discuss this. 


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« Reply #20740 on: June 21, 2012, 04:07:18 PM »
OK, let's talk 2003.  We lost to Marshall, Texas, and Okie St.  We win the north.  Beat arguably the greatest college football team of all time in the CCG. 

Should that team have had a shot at the title?

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« Reply #20741 on: June 21, 2012, 04:16:26 PM »
Nebraska in 1999?

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« Reply #20742 on: June 21, 2012, 04:23:24 PM »
OK, let's talk 2003.  We lost to Marshall, Texas, and Okie St.  We win the north.  Beat arguably the greatest college football team of all time in the CCG. 

Should that team have had a shot at the title?

don't care

Nebraska in 1999?

don't care

any others?

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« Reply #20743 on: June 21, 2012, 04:26:49 PM »
So, something that I wasn't aware of regarding Notre Dame, NBC, the Big East, ESPN, etc.

I knew that NBC was wanting to get into the college football game (outside of Notre Dame) pretty badly, but I wasn't aware how badly NBC wants to compete with ESPN overall.  I guess Comcast wanted to buy Disney (and ESPN) back in 2004, but they failed.  So, now, they are getting pretty aggressive.

There were rumblings out there that NBC was wanting to use the Big East's gigantic geographical footprint to help create content that would help keep games on TV wall-to-wall every week, effectively sandwiching Notre Dame games with Big East football.

So, there is a possibility that the rumored numbers of NBC overpaying ND for their exclusive contract to be pretty legitimate.

One of the things that I find fascinating is how the Big East could evolve with an NBC partnership.  They could, potentially, be a viable 16 team conference because they'd be the only game on NBC and NBC Sports Network. Because of time zones and how all of that shakes out, they could actually fill programming on NBC, NBC Sports Network, and if they wanted to do so, a conference specific network.  They would essentially be an NBC content farm, and it would most likely pay them more than a tighter conference membership.

I think there is a possibility for the Big East to consist of 24 schools between football and men's basketball.  I think you'll have 10 core members, six football only members, and the 8 Catholic schools (including ND).

There would be so much content there that you could fill three cable channels.

Anyway, it's something to think about.

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« Reply #20744 on: June 21, 2012, 04:28:39 PM »
OK, let's talk 2003.  We lost to Marshall, Texas, and Okie St.  We win the north.  Beat arguably the greatest college football team of all time in the CCG. 

Should that team have had a shot at the title?

don't care

Nebraska in 1999?

don't care

any others?

Kansas State 2000

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« Reply #20746 on: June 21, 2012, 05:03:20 PM »
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« Reply #20747 on: June 21, 2012, 05:24:53 PM »
Quit rough ridin' up this thread, you mother fuckers.

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« Reply #20748 on: June 21, 2012, 05:35:33 PM »
If Texas or Alabama only lose one game it is a "slip up" or a "stumble"

If KSU loses one game we are "exposed"

And the people who assign those labels will be the same people who pick the teams that get to participate in a four team playoff. 



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« Reply #20749 on: June 21, 2012, 05:42:07 PM »
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